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Rick Baldwin

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Jun 25, 2004, 6:12:06 AM6/25/04
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I went to see EC the other night in Albany NY. What a great show!! He was
looking old and tired but the music was anything but that. The band he has
with him is smokin. So if you can you should go see him on the current
tour. The opening act cooks too- Robert Randolph, this guy plays a pedal
steel and man he sounds great. I thought the high light was Badge and
Sunshine of your love, but Layla was excelent also. Anyone else seen him on
this tour? - What did you think?

Rick

Here is the set list from the other night:
Setlist from 23 June 2004:

01. Let it rain
02. Hoochie coochie man
03. Walk out in the rain
04. I Wanna Little Girl
05. I shot the sheriff
06. Me and the Devil Blues
07. They're Red Hot
08. Milkcows calf blues
09. Posession Over Judgement Day
10. Kind hearted woman blues
11. Got to get better in a little while
12. Have you ever loved a woman
13. Badge
14. Wonderful tonight
15. Layla
16. Cocaine

Encore:
17. Sunshine of your love (with Robert Randolph)
18. I got my mojo working (with Robert Randolph)


SKNavis

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Jun 25, 2004, 9:33:43 AM6/25/04
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>So if you can you should go see him on the current
>tour

Shouldn't that read "if you can AFFORD TO you should go see him on the current
tour"?

Actually, his upcoming Milwaukee gig must be a tough sell. Last week they were
offering up half price tickets for the most expensive tier. This week they're
still adverstising tickets up near the stage.

I've seen him three times. The first two times he was excellent (esp. when he
did the all- blues tour 8 or 9 years ago). The last time was when he toured
behind that awful Pilgrim album. The tickets were overpriced (I spent $45 to
sit in the back of the house when I spent less to sit up front on the previous
tours), and EC was just going through the motions. He played a short set, and
just wasn't very good.

Anyhow, this time around he's got an excellent new album (Me and Mr. Johnson)
and I'd like to see him. SInce his new album is all Robert Johnson songs, I
assume he's going to playing a lot of blues and his heart his usually in it
when he does. I just won't pay the prices he wants now. Even those half price
jobs were still too expensive. If I weren't going to any other shows this
summer I might've gone for that, but ticket prices are way out of hand.

>The opening act cooks too- Robert Randolph, this guy plays a pedal
>steel and man he sounds great.

Oh yeah! He was at the Terrapin Station festival a couple of years ago. He's
amazing. I also caught a performance of his on Austin City Limits last week.
He's definitely worth checking out.

Nice setlist you posted! I love that he's playing a lot of the Johnson tunes,
as well as other blues material. He's also playing his better, older, material
by the looks of it. Bummer I'm not going to get to go. I hope some nice
bootlegs come out of this tour!

Peace,
Shaun

DFBayne

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Jun 25, 2004, 9:44:20 AM6/25/04
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>I've seen him three times. The first two times he was excellent (esp. when
>he
>did the all- blues tour 8 or 9 years ago). The last time was when he toured
>behind that awful Pilgrim album. The tickets were overpriced (I spent $45 to
>sit in the back of the house when I spent less to sit up front on the
>previous
>tours), and EC was just going through the motions. He played a short set,
>and
>just wasn't very good.
>

I'll never forget the first time I saw Clapton in '78 in Providence. Muddy
Waters opened for him and blew Clapton and his band off the stage. Clapton had
a 2nd guitarist in his band who toook more leads than Eric did! Of course,
Eric was just getting over his "problems" at that point.

I've seen Clapton about three or four times since then, the last time in the
early '90's and other than seeing him at the Ritz in NYC in the mid-80's none
of them struck me as great concerts. The arena sized Clapton shows I saw were
all good and professional concerts, but you had the sense that he was not there
for the love of the music but rather for the paycheck at the end of the night.


DB

cedar

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Jun 25, 2004, 11:20:13 AM6/25/04
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On 25 Jun 2004 13:44:20 GMT, dfb...@aol.com (DFBayne) wrote:


>I'll never forget the first time I saw Clapton in '78 in Providence. Muddy
>Waters opened for him and blew Clapton and his band off the stage. Clapton had
>a 2nd guitarist in his band who toook more leads than Eric did! Of course,
>Eric was just getting over his "problems" at that point.
>

snip
>
>DB

yup, I saw him on that tour and the experience was one of the most
important musical events of my life. Muddy Waters was a revelation, a
shaman... hell, he had his MOJO workin', and it damn sure worked on
me- a sixteen year old white kid from the 'burbs, hanging on the rail
in front of the stage.

TJ

band beyond description

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Jun 25, 2004, 12:17:08 PM6/25/04
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I saw that 1978 tour too, in chicago at the stadium, but was also lucky
enough to see muddy waters occasionally in clubs while growing up there....

Shaun, do you recall the Edgewater in Twin Lakes, WI? I saw Muddy there
once in the 70s, among other places around Chicago...

In most cases, i can easily do without that "Brit white boy junkie alluding
to black American blues" thing, but when Clapton is on, he's ok, and I
especially like his 461 Ocean Blvd and Slowhand period. But in the past
decade, ticket prices have gotten way out of line... Clapton comes here to
Japan like every year and plays two weeks straight in one place, but still
have never opened my wallet wide enough to see him in Tokyo. I can live
with my 1978 memory, as far as he's concerned; he's pushed too much on MTV
anyway, so I don't feel like I'm missing much...

ymmv...
--
Peace,

~ Steve
"Thinkin a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring..."


DFBayne

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Jun 25, 2004, 12:58:09 PM6/25/04
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<SNIP>

>Muddy Waters was a revelation, a
>shaman... hell, he had his MOJO workin', and it damn sure worked on
>me- a sixteen year old white kid from the 'burbs, hanging on the rail
>in front of the stage.
>

I was 17 at the time of the 78 Providence show and saw Muddy a bunch of times
after that show because I was so impressed. One of my favorite Muddy shows was
in 1981 or 1982 when he played a movie theater (The American Theater) in
Canton, NY (my college town) with Howlin' Wolf. What a double bill!

So, I guess I can thank Clapton for turning me on to Muddy and givng me the
opportunity to have seen him before it was too late.

SKNavis

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Jun 25, 2004, 1:07:32 PM6/25/04
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>I'll never forget the first time I saw Clapton in '78 in Providence. Muddy
>Waters opened for him and blew Clapton and his band off the stage. Clapton
>had
>a 2nd guitarist in his band who toook more leads than Eric did! Of course,
>Eric was just getting over his "problems" at that point.

That probably had something to do with it... It must've been something to see
Muddy with him!

>I've seen Clapton about three or four times since then, the last time in the
>early '90's and other than seeing him at the Ritz in NYC in the mid-80's none
>of them struck me as great concerts. The arena sized Clapton shows I saw
>were
>all good and professional concerts, but you had the sense that he was not
>there
>for the love of the music but rather for the paycheck at the end of the
>night.

That's how I felt when I saw him back in '97 or '98. The best thing he did in
recent years, was that all-blues tour in the mid 90's. He was on fire on both
that tour and the album he was touring behind (the highly recommended From the
Cradle). I think that music, the blues music that inspired him, really
fires his soul in away that playing his own songs and hits rarely does. I'll
give him credit for trying new directions over the years, but I also feel like
he's squandered much of his tremendous talent over the years. The new album is
great, so maybe the tour is too.

Peace,
Shaun


SKNavis

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Jun 25, 2004, 1:27:32 PM6/25/04
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>
>Shaun, do you recall the Edgewater in Twin Lakes, WI? I saw Muddy there
>once in the 70s, among other places around Chicago...

I've never been there, Steve. Cool place? I also haven't seen all that much
footage of Muddy, but perhaps the most awe-inspiring performance I've ever seen
of *anyone* was him at The Last Waltz. TJ is correct in calling him a shaman!
The recent American Masters documentary about him on PBS is also really good
and worth checking out.

>In most cases, i can easily do without that "Brit white boy junkie alluding
>to black American blues" thing, but when Clapton is on, he's ok, and I
>especially like his 461 Ocean Blvd and Slowhand period.

Those are good albums both, even though his sound had changed. 461 OB was esp.
good, and a tremendous comeback for him during his first whack at sobriety.
Slowhand's got great stuff like "Cocaine" of course, as well as the underrated
"The Core." I've always had a soft spot for "Lay Down Sally" too.

It would be easy to dismiss EC as "Brit white boy junkie alluding to the blues"
(I'm not saying you are Steve, but I know some do) but I don't think there's
any denying his talent. Same for his true commitment to the blues when he was
in the Yardbirds, then left because they were going in a pop direction, and his
time with John Mayall. Then took the blues in new directions with Cream, and
brought the music to the ears of a lot people who might not have been exposed
to it otherwise.

What's more, Clapton's always been sure to give props to his heroes, often
performing with them, playing on their records, taking them on the road, etc.
The recent album with B.B. King was a good one, and he let B.B. take center
stage for much of it, though it was a bit overproduced and not as down and
dirty as I wanted (not that B.B.'s terribly down and dirty either).

I think EC taking Robert Randolph on the road with him this time around is
another great move, opening people's ears up to some new sounds, just like he
did with blues heroes.

>But in the past
>decade, ticket prices have gotten way out of line... Clapton comes here to
>Japan like every year and plays two weeks straight in one place, but still
>have never opened my wallet wide enough to see him in Tokyo.

Given the chance, I might've back around the time he recorded the songs for
Just One Night at Budokan (which was 1978, come to think of it). These days,
heck no. Not at his prices. I'd be curious to hear a boot from the new tour,
but I wouldn't pay to go.

>I can live
>with my 1978 memory, as far as he's concerned; he's pushed too much on MTV
>anyway, so I don't feel like I'm missing much...

Actually, if MTV were putting him and music like his on these days, it would be
a huge improvement for that awful network. Maybe the overseas versions of MTV
are different, but there's nothing worth watching on that channel, or any of
its offshoots channels, these days. Hasn't been in very long time.

Peace,
Shaun

The Iron Muffin

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Jun 25, 2004, 1:55:52 PM6/25/04
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Thanks, but no thanks.

Clapton lost his appeal for me when he started making yuppie mood music.

--
The Iron Muffin

DEAD FREAKS UNITE

Who are you? Where are you?

How are you?


Robert

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Jun 25, 2004, 1:48:42 PM6/25/04
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g...@t.snout.net (cedar) wrote in
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He had his "MOJO" workin.....and it worked on you? That means you liked his
erection. Ok. fine. A little wierd. but to each his own.

cedar

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:48:42 GMT, Robert <noe...@screwspam.com>
wrote:

>> yup, I saw him on that tour and the experience was one of the most
>> important musical events of my life. Muddy Waters was a revelation, a
>> shaman... hell, he had his MOJO workin', and it damn sure worked on
>> me- a sixteen year old white kid from the 'burbs, hanging on the rail
>> in front of the stage.
>> TJ
>>
>
>He had his "MOJO" workin.....and it worked on you? That means you liked his
>erection. Ok. fine. A little wierd. but to each his own.

Actually, I never saw the man's penis. Sorry to disappoint your little
homoerotic daydream.

from http://www.m-w.com/
Main Entry: mo·jo
Pronunciation: 'mO-(")jO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural mojoes or mojos
Etymology: probably of African origin; akin to Fulani moco'o medicine
man: a magic spell, hex, or charm; broadly : magical power

TJ


Robert

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Jun 25, 2004, 2:05:55 PM6/25/04
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Didn't Clapton "RETIRE" 3 years ago!?!?!?

Gee, Charge people $300-$1500 a ticket under the false premise of
"retiring" then come out and steal Robert Johnson's songs, hire someone
else to play lead guitar cuz you're too lazy and charge idiots another $300
to see you barely play the guitar.

I love alot of Clapton's songs...but screw him! He's the ultimate sell-
out!

JC Martin

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Jun 25, 2004, 2:05:26 PM6/25/04
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Clapton IMO is the most boring and overrated rock guitarists I've ever
heard. Some of his songwriting and singing is not bad, but I've never heard
much passion from his playing.

And don't gimme that Cream crap. Ginger Baker annoys the shit of me.

-JC


Robert

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Jun 25, 2004, 2:15:22 PM6/25/04
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g...@t.snout.net (cedar) wrote in
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> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:48:42 GMT, Robert <noe...@screwspam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>g...@t.snout.net (cedar) wrote in
>>news:40dc411...@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net:
>>> yup, I saw him on that tour and the experience was one of the most
>>> important musical events of my life. Muddy Waters was a revelation,
>>> a shaman... hell, he had his MOJO workin', and it damn sure worked
>>> on me- a sixteen year old white kid from the 'burbs, hanging on the
>>> rail in front of the stage.
>>> TJ
>>>
>>
>>He had his "MOJO" workin.....and it worked on you? That means you
>>liked his erection. Ok. fine. A little wierd. but to each his own.
>
> Actually, I never saw the man's penis. Sorry to disappoint your little
> homoerotic daydream.
>
> from http://www.m-w.com/

> Main Entry: mo搜o

> Pronunciation: 'mO-(")jO
> Function: noun
> Inflected Form(s): plural mojoes or mojos
> Etymology: probably of African origin; akin to Fulani moco'o medicine
> man: a magic spell, hex, or charm; broadly : magical power
>
> TJ
>
>
>

The dictionary interpretation is fine....but that IS NOT what Blues Players
mean by "Mojo Workin". They're talking about something else
completely....It was a way to pass things by the radio censors when studio
albums first came out.

DBrophy479

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Robert noe...@screwspam.com wrote:

>He had his "MOJO" workin.....and it worked on you? That means you liked his
>erection. Ok. fine. A little wierd. but to each his own.

So whenever you hear a word you don't understand,you just assume it means
"dick"?

Robert

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Jun 25, 2004, 3:54:01 PM6/25/04
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dbrop...@aol.comnospam (DBrophy479) wrote in
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No, that was the Blues term for "dick".

Neil Krueger

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in article Xns951395F854DB3s...@206.141.193.32, Robert at
noe...@screwspam.com wrote on 6/25/04 3:54 PM:

You are looking a things too one-dimentionally.....

Peace,
Neil X.

Robert

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Jun 25, 2004, 4:11:08 PM6/25/04
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Neil Krueger <n...@comcast.net> wrote in
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not really, I was just being a smartass over someone else's mis-use of the
term, "mojo" as it applies to the blues. The original poster inadvertently
said he "liked Muddy Water's Hard-on" without realizing it. I simply
pointed it out while being sarcastic. That's all. Some other dumbass,
DBrophy479, responded with "Duuhhhh, if you don't understand a word,
duuuuuhh you assume it means dick..duhhhh"

cedar

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Jun 25, 2004, 4:14:28 PM6/25/04
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:54:01 GMT, Robert <noe...@screwspam.com>
wrote:

It can be, but your argument is like insisting that "tool" always
means dick, or "cock" always means dick, or for that matter "dick"
always means penis. It means that if that's what you mean, but words
have more than one meaning or interpretation- right?

1 - a magic spell, hex, or charm used against someone else, either as
a love spell, hex or charm or a bad luck spell, hex or charm. It's
blues function as a sexual euphemism seems to have arisen with Blind
Lemon Jefferson's 1928 song "Low-down Mojo".
2 - charm; amulet; conjuring object; a good-luck charm used by
gamblers and lovers;
3 - magical power;
4 - the staple amulet of African-American hoodoo practice, a flannel
bag containing one or more magical items. They were made with great
care and contained personal fragments and natural objects: hair from
the armpits or pubic region, fingernail pairings, pieces of skin were
considered especially effective in love charms, as were fragments of
underclothing, of a menstrual cloth and other closely personal
effects. Combined with parts of night creatures, bats or toads, and
with ashes and feathers from sources selected for a symbolic
significance relative to the purpose for which they had been prepared.
They were all tied up into small conjure bags or put into an
innocuous-looking receptacle and either carried to exert their power
upon the victim when contact was made with him or buried beneath his
doorstep, hidden in his bed or hearth. The word is thought to be a
corruption of the English word "magic". Other names for it include
conjure bag, hand, lucky hand, mojo bag, mojo hand, root bag, toby,
juju and gris-gris bag. In the Memphis region, a special kind of mojo,
worn only by women, is called a nation sack. The word "conjure", as in
"conjure work" (casting spells) and "conjure woman" (a female
herbalist-magician), is an old alternative to "hoodoo". The word
"hand" in this context may derive from the use of a rare orchid root
called Lucky Hand root as an ingredient in mojo bags for gamblers, or
from the use of finger and hand bones of the dead in mojo bags made
for various purposes;
5 - Steven Drahozal wrote: "To make a gris-gris bag, one uses
different colors of bags for different affects. I know red is for
love. One also uses different roots for different affects. To really
make the mojo work, you need a personal item from the person and no
one else can touch your bag. I got my mojo for love in New Orleans
(way way way behind the sun)." Thanks to Steven Drahozal for this
contribution to the list;

cedar

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:11:08 GMT, Robert <noe...@screwspam.com>
wrote:

>
>not really, I was just being a smartass over someone else's mis-use of the
>term, "mojo" as it applies to the blues. The original poster inadvertently
>said he "liked Muddy Water's Hard-on" without realizing it. I simply
>pointed it out while being sarcastic. That's all. Some other dumbass,
>DBrophy479, responded with "Duuhhhh, if you don't understand a word,
>duuuuuhh you assume it means dick..duhhhh"

as I've illustrated, I didn't misuse the term, you just put words in
my mouth. Go watch Beavis & Butthead and enjoy the subtle sexual
innuendos there.

pinhead

TJ

Richard Morris

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Jun 25, 2004, 4:26:10 PM6/25/04
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Robert wrote:

Mojo is a magic spell ... see:

http://www.whiteoaks.com/mojo.html

It prolly could be extended to other meanings, but in most contexts that
I can think of, magic seems to be the primary connotation.

Richard

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"Robert" <noe...@screwspam.com> wrote in message
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So when Muddy sings "Got my mojo workin' but it just won't work on you", he
means he can't get it up?

Roger
--
"No damn cat, no damn cradle"
Kurt Vonnegut


DBrophy479

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Jun 25, 2004, 5:07:30 PM6/25/04
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Robert noe...@screwspam.com wrote:

No,that wasn't.Your're flat-out wrong.Read the rest of the thread and learn
something.
There are tons of double-entendres in the blues canon for
fucking,dicks,etc.But "mojo" isn't one of them,and as someone else pointed
out,it doesn't make any sense as a synonym for "dick" in context in the Muddy
song and other songs about mojos.
We await your apology.


Neil Krueger

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Jun 25, 2004, 5:41:04 PM6/25/04
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in article Xns951398DCCF52Fs...@206.141.193.32, Robert at
noe...@screwspam.com wrote on 6/25/04 4:11 PM:

I was just trying to get a rise out of you......although I understand girth
is important too.

<Beavis>

He said "one-dimensional"....heh...heh.....

</Beavis>

Peace,
Neil X.

The Iron Muffin

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Jun 25, 2004, 6:01:22 PM6/25/04
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Robert wrote:
> Neil Krueger wrote:
> > Robert wrote:
> > > DBrophy479 wrote:
> > > > Robert wrote:

> > > > > He had his "MOJO" workin.....and it worked on you? That
> > > > > means you liked his erection. Ok. fine. A little wierd. but to
> > > > > each his own.
> > > >
> > > > So whenever you hear a word you don't understand,you just
> > > > assume it
> > > > means
> > > > "dick"?
> > >
> > > No, that was the Blues term for "dick".
> >
> > You are looking a things too one-dimentionally.....
>

> not really, I was just being a smartass over someone else's mis-use
> of the term, "mojo" as it applies to the blues. The original poster
> inadvertently said he "liked Muddy Water's Hard-on" without
> realizing it. I simply pointed it out while being sarcastic. That's all.
> Some other dumbass, DBrophy479, responded with "Duuhhhh,
> if you don't understand a word, duuuuuhh you assume it means
> dick..duhhhh"

Wow, you're still just as much (if not more) of a fuckwit moron as when you
first got here. Good thing I won't have to read any more of your posts.

SKNavis

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Jun 25, 2004, 7:40:21 PM6/25/04
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>Didn't Clapton "RETIRE" 3 years ago!?!?!?
>

Y'know, I'd forgotten all about that! That is pretty lame. Then again, he's
hardly the first guy to say that and then come back a short time later.

>Gee, Charge people $300-$1500 a ticket under the false premise of
>"retiring"

His prices are bad, but I don't know that they were ever *that* bad.

> then come out and steal Robert Johnson's songs

So doing covers is theft now? Guess the GD, and anyone else who's ever sang a
Robert Johnson, is a thief. That's a pretty big "wanted" list. It's not as
though Clapton tokk the songs, said he wrote them, and didn't do anything to
acknowledge Johnson's influence.

Clapton's probably done more than anyone for bringing Johnson's music to the
masses. That goes all the way back to his singing "Ramblin' On My Mind" on the
album he did with John Mayall in the mid '60s. And that's a great freakin'
album, BTW. So is his new one.

>hire someone
>else to play lead guitar

It was mentioned that someone (was it Steve?) saw him in 1978 and he let
someone take a lot of the leads. It was also stated that he wasn't in the best
of health then, however, and I think that's when he had Albert Lee in his band.
Lee's no slouch himself, so he probably picked up the slack. Clapton's always
been the primary lead player each of the times I've seen him though, and I
would guess that's usually been the case.

>cuz you're too lazy and charge idiots another $300
>to see you barely play the guitar.

I was really disappointed with the last time I saw him, but even then he was
certianly playing lead guitar. He just spent too much time playing crummy new
songs from a crummy album and didn't stretch out enough. I can't vouch for
what he's doing on the new tour, but I'd like to hear it. He can still be
fantastic when he wants to be.

>He's the ultimate sell-
>out!

Not as bad as CSNY or a few other acts I can think of, but nearly all of these
"classic" veteran acts have sold out. EC included. Even the Dylan and the
Dead, who kept prices low for a long time have started overpricing themselves.
Nearly everyone's working with Clear Channel, so they're pretty much all sell
outs.

Take away EC's last two solo albums prior to the new one and pretty much all of
his 80's output, however, and it's an imposing catalogue. Even taking the
shitty albums (such as August or Pilgrim) into account, it's just about as good
a career as any artist you can name. Dylan, Van Morrison, they've all had
their share of junk.

Peace,
Shaun


SKNavis

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Jun 25, 2004, 7:43:39 PM6/25/04
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>Clapton IMO is the most boring and overrated rock guitarists I've ever
>heard. Some of his songwriting and singing is not bad, but I've never heard
>much passion from his playing.
>

I think it's gone up and down over time, but he's still one of the best ever.
To each their own.

>And don't gimme that Cream crap. Ginger Baker annoys the shit of me.

Wha? His drumming or something personally about him? Can't say he ever
bothered me. I certainly don't like all of Cream's stuff, some of the songs
(such as "I'm So Glad") were just plain stupid, they were one of the earliest
jambands. I mean that in a good way.

Peace,
Shaun

DBrophy479

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Jun 25, 2004, 8:25:50 PM6/25/04
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Robert wrote:

>> not really, I was just being a smartass over someone else's mis-use
>> of the term, "mojo" as it applies to the blues. The original poster
>> inadvertently said he "liked Muddy Water's Hard-on" without
>> realizing it. I simply pointed it out while being sarcastic. That's all.
>> Some other dumbass, DBrophy479, responded with "Duuhhhh,
>> if you don't understand a word, duuuuuhh you assume it means
>> dick..duhhhh"

That's a misquote,Beavis.
You didn't know what a mojo was,and you've displayed your ignorance in several
rude posts now.So who's the dumbass?
Are you going to admit you were wrong or try to divert attention by insulting
people?
The original poster not only used the word correctly,he used it
creatively,tying his musical experience to one of Muddy Waters' most famous
songs.
Btw,the word "mojo" has a more contemporary usage that's related to the
original.Hunter S. Thompson got a lot of mileage out of the phrase "bad mojo."
And musicians use it to mean a sort of magic,or aura,or vibe,as in "That old
Gibson guitar has got a lot of mojo."

Jo McGuire

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Jun 25, 2004, 9:30:40 PM6/25/04
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Robert <noe...@screwspam.com> wrote in message news:<Xns951383AD7D31As...@206.141.193.32>...

During the 2001 tour he gave an interview to Rolling Stone in which he
said he thought it might be his last world tour, but that he would
still record and continue to perform live shows. The 2001 tour was
never billed as a "farewell tour" and if anyone paid $300-$1500 for a
ticket the money went to a scalper or ticket broker because he has
never charged that much for a regular tour. The top price for a
ticket at a New York show in 1999 was $300 but that was for charity.
He did not "steal" Robert Johnson's songs. Every song is credited to
Robert Johnson and I'm sure his son appreciates the royalties. A
second lead guitar player is not due to laziness. He plays plenty of
guitar but Doyle is a great addition to the band and it gets even
better when Robert Randolph joins them for the encore. One of the
reasons I'm one of the "idiots" you refer to is because even though
Clapton is without a doubt the star of the show, for him it's all
about the music and the band. He's a musician, not a rock star and he
loves what he's doing. It shows. Can he have an off night? Sure.
Made some compromises at times? Probably and has said so in
interviews. Sell-out? No. Because he's passionate about the music
he makes. You could hear in the interview he gave for the recent CD
and you can hear it in his playing and singing on stage. It's okay if
you're not a fan of him or his music but you should get your facts
straight first and you've no right to criticize a performance you
haven't seen.

band beyond description

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Jun 25, 2004, 10:00:33 PM6/25/04
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"SKNavis" <skn...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >Shaun, do you recall the Edgewater in Twin Lakes, WI? I saw Muddy there
> >once in the 70s, among other places around Chicago...
>
> I've never been there, Steve. Cool place? I also haven't seen all that
much
> footage of Muddy, but perhaps the most awe-inspiring performance I've ever
seen
> of *anyone* was him at The Last Waltz. TJ is correct in calling him a
shaman!
> The recent American Masters documentary about him on PBS is also really
good
> and worth checking out.

the Edgewater was one of those little roadhouse-type places that for a time
was marketed in Chicago when they had shows to promote; Muddy was by far and
away the best caliber that ever appeared there...mostly they were so-so
Midwest bar bands that did the "Illinois Entertainer" circuit...occasionally
good for a rockin', beery night out, but hardly more than regional
stature...

http://www.illinoisentertainer.com/

the problem was driving way up there, getting trashed, and finding your way
home again the same night...this was before roadblocks and a uniform
national 21-year-old drinking age (for a time, WI used to be 18 when IL was
19 or 21).

I agree that EC gives good props...I just don't like his "Tears in Heaven"
MTV-type stuff (even if it is autobiographical, etc...). they still heavily
play that "classic EC" Grammy-winner stuff on MTV Japan (MTV's international
content is different than domestic U.S.).

Brad Greer

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Jun 25, 2004, 11:35:42 PM6/25/04
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Robert <noe...@screwspam.com> wrote in message news:<Xns951398DCCF52Fs...@206.141.193.32>...

If you listen to the way the term "mojo" is commonly used in blues
songs, it refers to having a power or influence over someone.
Admittedly, it is generally considered a seductive power, but when the
original poster said that Muddy had his mojo working and it sure
worked on him I think most people would agree he used the term
appropriately to say that Muddy had his magic working and was at the
top of his game.

Brad Greer

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Jun 25, 2004, 11:39:23 PM6/25/04
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"JC Martin" <jcma...@sonic.net> wrote in message news:<GPZCc.18951$Fo4.2...@typhoon.sonic.net>...
Listen to the album he did with John Mayall, outstanding, passionate
blues. And while Cream could be self-indulgent Clapton's playing
during that period was truly passionate and inspired. As was Layla.
After that, he started going down hill, IMO, with occasional moments
of inspiration but far too much going through the motions.

Ced420

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Jun 26, 2004, 9:53:35 AM6/26/04
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>I'll never forget the first time I saw Clapton in '78 in Providence. Muddy
>>Waters opened for him and blew Clapton and his band off the stage. Clapton
>had

i got busted at that show and never made it in. damn prov.cops 16 yrs.old they
waited till midnight to call home,my dad was a cop... you can guess how this
stoy ends......
carl

"i don't know where i'm going but i'll get there"
Reid Genauer



BZLRBI

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Jun 26, 2004, 11:19:43 AM6/26/04
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>i got busted at that show and never made it in. damn prov.cops 16 yrs.old
>they
>waited till midnight to call home,my dad was a cop... you can guess how this
>stoy ends......
> carl

You got an ass whuppin' but it never got in front of a judge!

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