Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. Apparently no recording exists, but check it out:
06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) 1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green Grass 2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide
Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel
It doesn't actually look all that bad. It is '69 after all, and it has a distinct lack of Samba in the Rain/ Childhood's End/Midi/Bralove/Hornsby/Welnick going for it. On Top of that, what if Games People Play includes a 15 minute howling Feedback interlude?
If you can't imagine this being played in 1969,and it being a good choice,one might not have been alive or aware.
Games People Play Lyrics: Joe South Music: Joe South
Played once on 11 June 1969 at a concert billed as "Bobby Ace And The Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck." Not clear who sang it, but Bob Weir seems the most likely.
Oh the games people play now Every night and every day now Never meaning what they say now And never saying what they mean
And they while away the hours In their ivory towers 'Till they're covered up with flowers In the back of a black limousine
Though we make one another cry Break our hearts when we say goodbye Cross our hearts and we'll hope to die Said the other was to blame
Neither one will ever give in Though we gaze on an eight by ten (note 1) Thinking 'bout the things that might have been And it's a dirty rotten shame
Talking about you and me And the games people play
People walking up to you Singing glory hallelujah And they're trying to sock it to you In the name of the Lord
Gonna teach you how to meditate Read your horoscope and cheat your fate And furthermore to hell with hate Come on get on board
Look around tell me what you see What's happening to you and me God grant me the serenity To remember who I am
'Cause you've given up your sanity All your pride and your vanity Turn your back on humanity And you don't give a damn
Talking about you and me And the games people play
> Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. > Apparently no recording exists, but check it out:
> 06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) > 1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My > Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green > Grass > 2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is > Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide
> Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, > Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on > guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel
Cathy's Clown would be a perfect cover tune for John Dawson & David Nelson.
Joe South rocked in case you never caught him live.
Merle - enuf said
George Jones? another solid Hall of Famer
& the beatles?
ok, the dead could make beatles tunes suck but to me it sounds like an interesting setlist worth paying for admission and some beers. AW
> > Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. > > Apparently no recording exists, but check it out:
> > 06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) > > 1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My > > Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green > > Grass > > 2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is > > Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide
> > Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, > > Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on > > guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel
> Cathy's Clown would be a perfect cover tune for John Dawson & David Nelson.
> Joe South rocked in case you never caught him live.
> Merle - enuf said
> George Jones? another solid Hall of Famer
> & the beatles?
> ok, the dead could make beatles tunes suck but to me it sounds like an > interesting setlist worth paying for admission and some beers. AW
Maybe "worst" was a bad choice of words. Weirdest or most eclectic might have been better. This is definitely not your typical setlist from '69, though. I'd love to give this one a listen in order to prove myself wrong.
> > > Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. > > > Apparently no recording exists, but check it out:
> > > 06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) > > > 1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My > > > Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green > > > Grass > > > 2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is > > > Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide
> > > Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, > > > Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on > > > guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel
> > Cathy's Clown would be a perfect cover tune for John Dawson & David Nelson.
> > Joe South rocked in case you never caught him live.
> > Merle - enuf said
> > George Jones? another solid Hall of Famer
> > & the beatles?
> > ok, the dead could make beatles tunes suck but to me it sounds like an > > interesting setlist worth paying for admission and some beers. AW
> Maybe "worst" was a bad choice of words. Weirdest or most eclectic > might have been better. This is definitely not your typical setlist > from '69, though. I'd love to give this one a listen in order to prove > myself wrong.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
I suspect that it probably kicked ass. I love those weird setlists.
> > > Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. > > > Apparently no recording exists, but check it out:
> > > 06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) > > > 1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My > > > Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green > > > Grass > > > 2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is > > > Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide
> > > Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, > > > Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on > > > guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel
> > Cathy's Clown would be a perfect cover tune for John Dawson & David Nelson.
> > Joe South rocked in case you never caught him live.
> > Merle - enuf said
> > George Jones? another solid Hall of Famer
> > & the beatles?
> > ok, the dead could make beatles tunes suck but to me it sounds like an > > interesting setlist worth paying for admission and some beers. AW
> Maybe "worst" was a bad choice of words. Weirdest or most eclectic > might have been better. This is definitely not your typical setlist > from '69, though. I'd love to give this one a listen in order to prove > myself wrong.- Hide quoted text -
Cathy's Clown Lyrics: Don and Phil Everly Music: Don and Phil Everly
This was apparently played during two Dead shows billed as Bobby Ace And The Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck (on 6/11/69 and 4/17/70). No tapes of these shows circulate. It was reportedly also played at the Hell's Angels benefit on 11/23/70, though it does not appear in the DeadBase list.
Green Green Grass Of Home Lyrics: Curly Putman Music: Curly Putman
Played a few times by the Grateful Dead in 1969-70 --in a pretty straight rendition, similar to the original:
I've Just Seen A Face Lyrics: Lennon/McCartney Music: Lennon/McCartney
Played once on 11 June 1969 at a concert billed as "Bobby Ace And The Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck." Not clear who sang it, but Bob Weir seems the most likely.
Silver Threads And Golden Needles Lyrics: Reynolds/Rhodes Music: Reynolds/Rhodes
Played by the Grateful Dead from their first days in 1966 through to 1970, but then dropped from their repertoire. The version below is one they sang in 1970 acoustic sets (with some variations). Earliesr versions from 1966 omit the first verse, with Bob Weir instead singing the first verse twice. (Thanks to Lucius for help with the lyrics) All I Have To Do Is Dream Lyrics: Boudleaux Bryant Music: Boudleaux Bryant
Played once on 11 June 1969 at a concert billed as "Bobby Ace And The Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck."
Wabash Cannonball Lyrics: Traditional Music: Traditional
Played once by the Grateful Dead on 11 June 1969 at a concert billed as "Bobby Ace And The Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck." No tape exists, so these are the lyrics from the version recently recorded by Bob Weir with Dan Zanes
I've Got A Tiger By The Tail Lyrics: Owens, Howard Music: Owens, Howard
Played on 11 June 1969 by Garcia, Lesh, Hart and Constanten (with John Dawson, David Nelson and Peter Grant) at a concert billed as "Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck." The list is from DeadBase - no known tape of the performance exists. These are the lyrics from the original Buck Owens version:
Railroading On The Great Divide Lyrics: Sara Carter Music: Sara Carter
The Dead played this once, on 11 June 1969 at a concert billed as Bobby Ace and the Cards from the Bottom of the Deck. The song was originally performed by the Carter Family, but it seems most likely that the Dead learnt it from the New Lost City Ramblers' version. There is no known tape of the Dead's performance in circulation, so the lyrics below come from other versions
Let It Be Me Lyrics: Curtis, Becaud Music: Curtis, Becaud
Played once on 11 June 1969 at a concert billed as "Bobby Ace And The Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck."
>>> Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. >>> Apparently no recording exists, but check it out: >>> 06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) >>> 1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My >>> Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green >>> Grass >>> 2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is >>> Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide >>> Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, >>> Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on >>> guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel >> Cathy's Clown would be a perfect cover tune for John Dawson & David Nelson..
>> Joe South rocked in case you never caught him live.
>> Merle - enuf said
>> George Jones? another solid Hall of Famer
>> & the beatles?
>> ok, the dead could make beatles tunes suck but to me it sounds like an >> interesting setlist worth paying for admission and some beers. AW
> Maybe "worst" was a bad choice of words. Weirdest or most eclectic > might have been better. This is definitely not your typical setlist > from '69, though. I'd love to give this one a listen in order to prove > myself wrong.
I dunno. Worst may be right on. That has the capacity to be one friggin' terrible show. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
If it was unrecorded how do we know it wasn't a 27 minute version of Cathy's Clown? With a 4 minute Phil solo and a furious melt-down from Jerry right before the last verse?
Looks like an interesting show. All it needs is a version of "The Master's Bouquet" and "Let Me In 86938" to be a complete collection of every loveable late '60s oddity they covered. :) It was the band's ability to switch between stuff like this and The Other One or Dark Star (sometimes all in the same song) that kept things interesting. 6-27-69 has a truncated version of The Eleven>Green Green Grass of Home.
On Apr 9, 11:35 pm, eclecticst...@yahoo.com wrote:
> If it was unrecorded how do we know it wasn't a 27 minute version of > Cathy's Clown? With a 4 minute Phil solo and a furious melt-down from > Jerry right before the last verse?
> Looks like an interesting show. All it needs is a version of "The > Master's Bouquet" and "Let Me In 86938" to be a complete collection of > every loveable late '60s oddity they covered. :) It was the band's > ability to switch between stuff like this and The Other One or Dark > Star (sometimes all in the same song) that kept things interesting. > 6-27-69 has a truncated version of The Eleven>Green Green Grass of > Home.
> Lance
green green grass of home!..you have to do your homework to hang.
On 2008-04-10 03:05:03 +0200, Steve Terry <paul_te...@att.net> said:
> Maybe "worst" was a bad choice of words. Weirdest or most eclectic > might have been better. This is definitely not your typical setlist > from '69, though. I'd love to give this one a listen in order to prove > myself wrong.
It's not a Dead show, though. With Dawson and Nelson, it's more of a "Mother McGee's" show. I think it would be something to hear...
The Bobby Ace shows took place when the band was experimenting with country songs. Kind of a research period which helped them write and perform the Workingman's/American Beauty material. They probably weren't advertised as Dead shows.
On Apr 9, 11:35 pm, eclecticst...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 6-27-69 has a truncated version of The Eleven>Green Green Grass of > Home.
That cut is cruel. It would have been cool to hear if that was a transition. You hear Bob say "green green grass of home" as the Eleven is slowing down to a crawl, but it is hard to imagine it being a real transition instead of a Dead stop.
That show is also noteworthy for the Dire Wolf with the Bobby vox and Jer's steel, which was a cool little touch there for the few times they did it.
On Apr 10, 11:15 am, Douglas T Lilley <q3j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 9:47 am, Mark Scalise <markscal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2nd set from 8/29/82
> > Keep Your Day Job > Samson And Delilah ; He's Gone > Drums > Space > > > Not Fade Away > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues
> > There were some really dull sets in 1995 as well, but that goes > > without saying . . .
> That does look like one of those "man there are some cute groupies in > the front row/let's get this done and go catch a buzz" second sets.
You know, after posting this I went to LMA and cued it up, and it's actually a very tight performance and a great audience recording! Only their imagination was lacking, but the prior day's blowout in Veneta likely had some lingering effects.
> Keep Your Day Job > Samson And Delilah ; He's Gone > Drums > Space > > Not Fade Away > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues
Uh, what exactly is wrong with that setlist? If you told me before a second set that I'd be hearing Samson, He's Gone, NFA and Wharf Rat, I'd be a very happy camper. Peace, Neil X.
On Apr 10, 2:12 pm, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Mark mentioned:
> > 2nd set from 8/29/82
> > Keep Your Day Job > Samson And Delilah ; He's Gone > Drums > Space > > > Not Fade Away > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues
> Uh, what exactly is wrong with that setlist? If you told me before a > second set that I'd be hearing Samson, He's Gone, NFA and Wharf Rat, > I'd be a very happy camper.
>> > Keep Your Day Job > Samson And Delilah ; He's Gone > Drums > Space > >> > Not Fade Away > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues
>> Uh, what exactly is wrong with that setlist? If you told me before a >> second set that I'd be hearing Samson, He's Gone, NFA and Wharf Rat, >> I'd be a very happy camper.
>Looks like a complete snoozer to me.
Yeah, the post-drums is okay as setlists from after the 70's go, but no more than that. If pre-drums was more than 30 minutes I'd be surprised. Day Job to open a 2nd set is a disaster, and while I like Samson and He's Gone well enough, neither is my idea of a 2nd set focal point. Where's the jamming here? Maybe a few minutes out of He's Gone? If you told me before the set that I'd be hearing these songs, I'd be happy, too....as long as I'd also be hearing Playing>Terrapin or Scarlet>Fire.
> >> > Keep Your Day Job > Samson And Delilah ; He's Gone > Drums > Space > > >> > Not Fade Away > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues
> >> Uh, what exactly is wrong with that setlist? If you told me before a > >> second set that I'd be hearing Samson, He's Gone, NFA and Wharf Rat, > >> I'd be a very happy camper.
> >Looks like a complete snoozer to me.
> Yeah, the post-drums is okay as setlists from after the 70's go, but > no more than that. If pre-drums was more than 30 minutes I'd be > surprised. Day Job to open a 2nd set is a disaster, and while I like > Samson and He's Gone well enough, neither is my idea of a 2nd set > focal point. Where's the jamming here? Maybe a few minutes out of He's > Gone? If you told me before the set that I'd be hearing these songs, > I'd be happy, too....as long as I'd also be hearing Playing>Terrapin > or Scarlet>Fire.
Yeah, exactly. About the only jamming here is out of He's Gone (and while I like the song, it generally ain't my favorite jam vehicle) and out of Wharf Rat, although perhaps the NFA in that position in that era is opened up slightly more than I expect.
> If it was unrecorded how do we know it wasn't a 27 minute version of > Cathy's Clown? With a 4 minute Phil solo and a furious melt-down from > Jerry right before the last verse?
> Looks like an interesting show. All it needs is a version of "The > Master's Bouquet" and "Let Me In 86938" to be a complete collection of > every loveable late '60s oddity they covered. :) It was the band's > ability to switch between stuff like this and The Other One or Dark > Star (sometimes all in the same song) that kept things interesting. > 6-27-69 has a truncated version of The Eleven>Green Green Grass of > Home.
On Apr 9, 4:37 pm, Steve Terry <paul_te...@att.net> wrote:
> Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. > Apparently no recording exists, but check it out:
> 06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) > 1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My > Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green > Grass > 2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is > Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide
> Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, > Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on > guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:37:40 -0700 (PDT), Steve Terry
<paul_te...@att.net> wrote: >Can anyone top this? The bad trip tent was surely full that day. >Apparently no recording exists, but check it out:
>06-11-69 California Hall, San Francisco, Ca. (Wed) >1: Let It Be Me, Silver Threads, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Me & My >Uncle, Slewfoot, Dire Wolf, Games People Play, Race Is On, Green Green >Grass >2: Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is >Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Great Divide
>Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck - Weir, Garcia, >Lesh, Hart and Constanten - with John Dawson and David Nelson on >guitar, autoharp and vocals and with Peter Grant on pedal steel
And this setlist is bad because...? -- ~ Seth Jackson
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