Beatles and GD
Mark-T
it's a lovely tune. It reminds me of "She's leaving
home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings? Much
of the Scotch lads' music seems inappropos,
but on the other hand, there's quite a bit I can
easily imagine them doing:
"Back in the USSR": ignore the lyrics, this rocks!
Plenty of good guitar licks -
"Strawberry Fields Forever": obviously
"Here comes the sun": Deadly
"Lovely Rita": maybe Garcia doing it solo
"Maxwell's Silver Hammer": not Deadly,
you say? Hold on, think of "Dupree's diamond blues"...
Also, some of the early Beatles - rather simple
stuff, but the Dead occasionally played some
Chuck Berry, similar style, did they not?
Tape gurus?
Mark
Lfh
> I found a few samples of GDead performing "Peggy O",
> it's a lovely tune. It reminds me of "She's leaving
> home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
> did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings?
Hey Jude
Tomorrow Never Knows
Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
Revolution
Rain
Jerry:
Dear Prudence
Eleanor Rigby
Saw Her Standing There
> Much of the Scotch lads'
*Scotch* lads?
Fred
Neil X
> On Mar 23, 5:55 pm, Mark-T <mark...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> > I found a few samples of GDead performing "Peggy O",
> > it's a lovely tune. It reminds me of "She's leaving
> > home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
> > did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings?
>
> Hey Jude
> Tomorrow Never Knows
> Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
> Revolution
> Rain
Maybe we could also sneak "That Would Be Something" onto the list?
> Jerry:
> Dear Prudence
> Eleanor Rigby
> Saw Her Standing There
Along the same lines, how about "Imagine?"
Peace,
Neil X.
Lfh
> On Mar 23, 10:02 pm, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 23, 5:55 pm, Mark-T <mark...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> > > I found a few samples of GDead performing "Peggy O",
> > > it's a lovely tune. It reminds me of "She's leaving
> > > home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
> > > did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings?
>
> > Hey Jude
> > Tomorrow Never Knows
> > Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
> > Revolution
> > Rain
>
> Maybe we could also sneak "That Would Be Something" onto the list?
Ah, I knew there was something I forgot.
>
> > Jerry:
> > Dear Prudence
> > Eleanor Rigby
> > Saw Her Standing There
>
> Along the same lines, how about "Imagine?"
Right you are, but I was trying to forget that one, as the one I heard
was just sooo lame.
Fred
frndthdevl
Sweetbac
great cover material early in their career....
Know you Rider
Big River
Cold Rain
Lovelight
Big RR Blues....etc....etc...etc...
and then the later choices
ANY Beatles tune
I Fought the Law
Baba O Reilly
Louie Louie......I wont go on.
Andrew
Heh. Really, after about, geez, 72 or so, the choices of covers (aside
from about half of the Dylan covers) were absolutely terrible. Just
horrible.
Lfh
But you should go on, Sweets. The Dead's cover stuff was not a
sidebar. It was absolutely an integral part of their charm, not a back
seat or novelty thing. They owned lots of songs they did by others.
It's a long list.
Fred
Sweetbac
"Andrew" <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:80tin6...@mid.individual.net...
> Heh. Really, after about, geez, 72 or so, the choices of covers (aside
> from about half of the Dylan covers) were absolutely terrible. Just
> horrible.
Bobby Weir continues to sing those fucking painful
Dylan cover songs 30 years on...it's astounding.
"Queen Jane"...."Desoltion Row"....Watchtower"
And lets not forget Phils butchering of "Tom Thumbs Blues"
Jerry...now Jerry could pull off "Quinn" or Positively 4th Street"
or "Heavens Door" with authority.
These other fools need to step the fuck off the Dylan canon.
JimK
wrote:
>On Mar 23, 6:53 pm, Neil X <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 23, 10:02 pm, Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 23, 5:55 pm, Mark-T <mark...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > I found a few samples of GDead performing "Peggy O",
>> > > it's a lovely tune. It reminds me of "She's leaving
>> > > home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
>> > > did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings?
>>
>> > Hey Jude
>> > Tomorrow Never Knows
>> > Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
>> > Revolution
>> > Rain
>>
>> Maybe we could also sneak "That Would Be Something" onto the list?
>
>Ah, I knew there was something I forgot.
>
I Want To Tell You
It's All Too Much
Why Don't We Do It In The Road
Day Tripper
Get Back
Paperback Writer (soundcheck 95)
JimK
Andrew
> "Andrew" <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:80tin6...@mid.individual.net...
>
>> Heh. Really, after about, geez, 72 or so, the choices of covers (aside
>> from about half of the Dylan covers) were absolutely terrible. Just
>> horrible.
>
> Bobby Weir continues to sing those fucking painful
> Dylan cover songs 30 years on...it's astounding.
> "Queen Jane"...."Desoltion Row"....Watchtower"
Well, I put Queen Jane in the good half of the Dylan covers, although at
some point it went beyond being a nice little cover and turned into a
workhorse that needed to be glue... But Weir doing Desolation Row? It
was good a time or two, but I thought it was a long fucking song when
Dylan did it. When Weir did it, he brought new meaning to the word
"interminable". Which brings me to Memphis Blues Again (and again, and
again). Good god, Dylan's got like ten thousand songs. Do we have to
trot out the same tired ones year after year? Watchtower I could deal
with a bit because at some point I got sick of the only options out of
space being a half-assed TOO or a, what, quarter-assed Miracle?
> And lets not forget Phils butchering of "Tom Thumbs Blues"
Meh. I could deal with Tom Thumb's I suppose.
> Jerry...now Jerry could pull off "Quinn" or Positively 4th Street"
> or "Heavens Door" with authority.
> These other fools need to step the fuck off the Dylan canon.
Now we're talkin'... Baby Blue, She Belongs to Me... Yeah, I supposed
just about every Dylan cover that Jerry handled was just about perfect...
bzl...@aaool.com
Desolation, Watchtower, in addition to Memphis Blues Again were some
of the best things they ever covered. She Belongs to Me didn't suck
either.
Randy G
> did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings? Much
> of the Scotch lads' music seems inappropos,
The Beatles were Scottish?
9fingers
Visions of Johanna was great too.
Gladys
>
> Right you are, but I was trying to forget that one, as the one I heard
> was just sooo lame.
>
I cannot think of a GD cover of a Beatles song that wasn't lame. I do
like some versions of JGB doing Dear Prudence, but bands shouldn't
bother covering the Beatles. Nothing to improve upon there so it's
generally going to be lame.
Gladys.
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JimK
Visions and Senor are my favorite Garcia covers of Dylan tunes. His
vocal phrasing and delivery on both are spot on. I can never decide if
I like his versions or Dylan's.
Weir's takes on Desolation Row are more often than not tedious train
wrecks, but occasionally he (and Jerry) just nail it. Two versions
that come to mind are 3/24/90 in Albany and 7/19/90 at Deer Creek.
Jerry's solos in both are sublime, as is his playing behind the
vocals.
JimK
JimK
No, they just liked Scotch.
JimK
Andrew
I never heard a one of those I cared much for...
Neil X
Oh yeah, that's right, you don't like my very favorite Jerry show of
all time, 2/6/72, which contains a great instrumental version of
Imagine.
Peace,
Neil X.
mr.rapidan
How come nobody's talking about the awful covers of Dark Star they
started doing in '89?
Cap'n Plumage
>
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1989-07-02.fob.thomson.motb.81459.sbeok.flac16
CP
pbuzb...@yahoo.com
> "Here comes the sun": Deadly
So much so that they rewrote it as "Here Comes Sunshine."
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
Mark-T
> > I found a few samples of GDead performing "Peggy O",
> > it's a lovely tune. It reminds me of "She's leaving
> > home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
> > did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings?
>
> Hey Jude
> Tomorrow Never Knows
> Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
> Revolution
> Rain
>
>
> *Scotch* lads?
well they weren't lassies, so far as I know -
admittedly, I never peeked under their kilts -
though I always wondered about Paul Mc,
he's a tad too cute - you know those artsy
types, they aren't always choir boys, if you
catch my drift -
Mark
yoker
of covers. Especially when Zevon was having much success with this (at
the time) new song.
Mark-T
> On Mar 23, 6:53 pm, Neil X <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >It reminds me of "She's leaving
> > > >home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
> > > >did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings?
>
> > > Dear Prudence
> > > Eleanor Rigby
> > > Saw Her Standing There
>
> > Along the same lines, how about "Imagine?"
>
> Right you are, but I was trying to forget that one,
> as the one I heard was just sooo lame.
Was there ever a version of "Imagine" that
wasn't lame? No question in my mind, the author
of that goo is doing serious time in Purgatory -
"Imagine all the airheads,
hugging all the trees.
You can say I'm a stoner,
but I'm not the only one..."
Mark
Randy G
Arrow".
Gladys
> No question in my mind, the author
> of that goo is doing serious time in Purgatory -
>
Perhaps you should listen to the song a bit more closely. It's easy if
you try.
Andrew
> Lets not forget the unforgettable Rod Stewart cover tune "Broken
> Arrow".
Um, that's a Robbie Robertson song, no? (Although, yes, mostly another
cover I could do without...)
James Pablos
> Mark-T wrote:
> > No question in my mind, the author
> > of that goo is doing serious time in Purgatory -
>
> Perhaps you should listen to the song a bit more closely. It's easy if
> you try.
>
> Gladys.
This "Mark T." is steady trolling you folks. How you don't see that is
beyond me.
JimK
Or was that Good Day Sunshine?
JimK
Andrew
Oh, that's rich... Admonishment from Pablos on being trolled...
Nice...
Lfh
> > > Along the same lines, how about "Imagine?"
>
> > Right you are, but I was trying to forget that one, as the one I heard
> > was just sooo lame.
>
> Oh yeah, that's right, you don't like my very favorite Jerry show of
> all time, 2/6/72, which contains a great instrumental version of
> Imagine.
Heh. Crazy, ain’t it? You’d figure that if we were going to intersect
in our tastes, it’d be in 72, but, yeah, that one didn’t do much for
me, especially in the context of the year. I just don’t hear close to
the same caliber from Jer on that Merl show as I do in his glorious
stuff with the Dead in 72. Having just recently taken a dip (4/8 Dark
Star, 8/27 China Rider and Playin, 9/17 Other One, and 5/26
Truckin’>Other Oner>Dew>Other One>Sing Me Back Home) over the weekend,
I am more convinced than ever that 72 is without question the high
water point of the era.
Fred
Gladys
Probably because I don't spend every waking hour of every day on this
newsgroup ???
Besides - troll or not, I kind of liked the pun.
Love,
Sweetbac
"Andrew" <amu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:22876b85-0dd1-4092-a24d-
> Gimme some lovin and dear mr fantasy were excellent covers...
> I never heard a one of those I cared much for...
I think I was at the innaugural performances for both.
"Gimme some Lovin" at the Berkeley Community Theater
in 1984....eh...a novelty that wore off.
The "Mr Fantasy" I think was premiered at the 83 or 84 red rocks
campaigns...I remember people were crying...it was pretty intense.
I imagine the abundance of REALLY good LSD floating around
Red Rocks played a role in the rejoicing...that was a good time.
Lfh
> "Andrew" <amur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:22876b85-0dd1-4092-a24d-
>
> > Gimme some lovin and dear mr fantasy were excellent covers...
> > I never heard a one of those I cared much for...
>
> I think I was at the innaugural performances for both.
> "Gimme some Lovin" at the Berkeley Community Theater
> in 1984....eh...a novelty that wore off.
The 11/1/85 was a ripper, and the Gloria that closed the show was one
of the coolest things I ever saw. Bob was just on it for that one, and
his "wait a minute" bits were great, especially when he faked out
Jerry and Jer lets of this snarling riff in response.
> The "Mr Fantasy" I think was premiered at the 83 or 84 red rocks
> campaigns...I remember people were crying...it was pretty intense.
> I imagine the abundance of REALLY good LSD floating around
> Red Rocks played a role in the rejoicing...that was a good time.
It was 84. The first one I heard on tape was 10/11/84, and it was the
highlight of the set, easily. I was stoked when I heard they were
doing it, but it did fade over time, just like Watchtower.
Fred
3jane.
> >Dylan cover songs 30 years on...it's astounding.
> >"Queen Jane"...."Desoltion Row"....Watchtower"
> >And lets not forget Phils butchering of "Tom Thumbs Blues"
> >Jerry...now Jerry could pull off "Quinn" or Positively 4th Street"
> >or "Heavens Door" with authority.
> >These other fools need to step the fuck off the Dylan canon.
>
> Desolation, Watchtower, in addition to Memphis Blues Again were some
> of the best things they ever covered. She Belongs to Me didn't suck
> either.
Seconded, I think their arrangement of Memphis Blues Again is one of
the most inventive, sublime reworkings of other people's music they
did. Garcia had very close to 0 bad Dylan covers IMO, Weir had a few
more than that, Lesh at least one more than that.
Sweetbac
"mr.rapidan" <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:776e0e05-9268-4ec8-a641-
> How come nobody's talking about the awful covers of Dark Star they
> started doing in '89?
I agree...everyone always talks about the "Epic" Dark Star
they did in Miami 1989.....to me, it sounds like someone
dropped the computer, and the next 20 minutes was consumed
by a vacuum cleaner who's hepa filter is clogged.
I (partly) blame Bob Bralove for this travesty.
3jane.
> Lfh wrote:
>
> > Right you are, but I was trying to forget that one, as the one I heard
> > was just sooo lame.
>
> I cannot think of a GD cover of a Beatles song that wasn't lame. I do
> like some versions of JGB doing Dear Prudence, but bands shouldn't
> bother covering the Beatles. Nothing to improve upon there so it's
> generally going to be lame.
They could improve on the Beatles' live performances of just about any
Beatles song.
3jane.
> > > No question in my mind, the author
> > > of that goo is doing serious time in Purgatory -
>
> > Perhaps you should listen to the song a bit more closely. It's easy if
> > you try.
>
> beyond me.
Why do you say he's trolling? Because you disagree with him?
3jane.
> > > Mark-T wrote:
> > > > No question in my mind, the author
> > > > of that goo is doing serious time in Purgatory -
>
> > > Perhaps you should listen to the song a bit more closely. It's easy if
> > > you try.
>
> > This "Mark T." is steady trolling you folks. How you don't see that is
> > beyond me.
>
> Oh, that's rich... Admonishment from Pablos on being trolled...
> Nice...
It's only responding to trolls if other people do it.
Kelly Humphries
> Weir's takes on Desolation Row are more often than not tedious train
> wrecks, but occasionally he (and Jerry) just nail it. Two versions
> that come to mind are 3/24/90 in Albany and 7/19/90 at Deer Creek.
12/31/86. Everyone nails it, all the way through.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-12-31.sbd.miller.77447.flac16
mr.rapidan
I'm not saying it's better, haven't listened to either, and haven't
read the text file, yet, but there's a more recent miller sbd:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-12-31.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.99051.sbeok.flac16
Randy G
You're probably right, I was too lazy to check. He does a ton of
covers and this looks like another one.
M C hammered
> I found a few samples of GDead performing "Peggy O",
> home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
> of the Scotch lads' music seems inappropos,
> but on the other hand, there's quite a bit I can
> easily imagine them doing:
>
> "Back in the USSR": ignore the lyrics, this rocks!
> Plenty of good guitar licks -
>
> "Strawberry Fields Forever": obviously
> "Here comes the sun": Deadly
> "Maxwell's Silver Hammer": not Deadly,
> you say? Hold on, think of "Dupree's diamond blues"...
>
> Also, some of the early Beatles - rather simple
> stuff, but the Dead occasionally played some
> Chuck Berry, similar style, did they not?
>
> Tape gurus?
>
> Mark
Course the Beatles blieved in God....is you sayin there freakin
atheists fer Godsakes?? Then how come John din't blieve in monkeys??
9fingers
I like Lesh's Tom Thumb blues. I know he's not a good singer, but he
sounds no worse than Dylan. I like the band's playing on it, and the
vocals don't really bother me. He gives it a good sincere effort.
Mark-T
> > I found a few samples of GDead performing "Peggy O",
> > it's a lovely tune. It reminds me of "She's leaving
> > home" from Sgt. Pepper's album, and I got thinking:
> > did the Dead ever play any Beatles sings? Much
> > of the Scotch lads' music seems inappropos,
> > but on the other hand, there's quite a bit I can
> > easily imagine them doing:
>
> > "Here comes the sun": Deadly
> > "Lovely Rita": maybe Garcia doing it solo
> > "Maxwell's Silver Hammer": not Deadly,
> > you say? Hold on, think of "Dupree's diamond blues"...
>
> > Also, some of the early Beatles - rather simple
> > stuff, but the Dead occasionally played some
> > Chuck Berry, similar style, did they not?
>
> freakin atheists fer Godsakes?? Then how come John
> din't blieve in monkeys??
harumph!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DP91zmoR2E
I bid you good day, sir.
Mark
Mark-T
> > No question in my mind, the author
> > of that goo is doing serious time in Purgatory -
>
> Perhaps you should listen to the song a bit more closely. It's
> easy if you try.
Glady, your spirituality inspires me to visualize.....
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2029776/whirled_peas/
Mark
9fingers
I agree that the GD Beatles covers were lame. I thought Revolution had
potential, but it didn't happen.
I wish bands would play more Beatles songs. There are a lot of great
songs they wrote - they should be sung. I liked some of Joe Cocker's
covers, and I liked Spooky Tooth's cover of I am the Walrus.
I'm not a huge Phish fan, but I like their cover of the White Album.
I'm impressed how they were able to work up the whole song list, and I
though the performance came off pretty well, considering it was a one
time shot.
Neil X
What year did they do that?
If I had to pick one Beatles cover to listen to that GD/JGB played, it
would undoubtedly be Dear Prudence. I really like some of the JGB
versions of that song.
Peace,
Neil X.
9fingers
I think every Halloween they would put on a "musical disguise" by
playing an album by another band straight through. I think this one
was 1994. They did Dark Side of the Moon once too.
I agree that Dear Prudence is the best cover by GD/JGB, For some
reason, the other ones didn't work, although Lucy in the Sky wasn't
bad. Rain could have developed into a good jamming tune, but it never
happened.
Neil X
Yeah, I know they do that every Halloween. I have recordings of a few
of them--Talking Heads, last year's Rolling Stones show. But I don't
have the White Album, which sounds like fun. 1994 was the golden era,
that would be a good show to track down.
> I agree that Dear Prudence is the best cover by GD/JGB, For some
> reason, the other ones didn't work, although Lucy in the Sky wasn't
> bad. Rain could have developed into a good jamming tune, but it never
> happened.
I think the main reason so few Beatles covers worked is that the
vocalists in the GD were not nearly as good as the vocalists in the
Beatles. They couldn't sing Beatles songs without butchering them.
Peace,
Neil X.
Kelly Humphries
> I agree that Dear Prudence is the best cover by GD/JGB, For some
> reason, the other ones didn't work, although Lucy in the Sky wasn't
> bad. Rain could have developed into a good jamming tune, but it never
> happened.
Perhaps you didn't catch Shoreline only one year like <coughcough> some
people did...
Your search - youtube.com grateful dead shoreline "I want to tell you" -
did not match any video results.
D'oh!
3jane.
>
> I think the main reason so few Beatles covers worked is that the
> vocalists in the GD were not nearly as good as the vocalists in the
> Beatles. They couldn't sing Beatles songs without butchering them.
Did Weir sing any of the Beatles covers or were they all by Garcia or
the keyboard players?
JimK
wrote:
The only Beatles tunes sung by Weir that come to mind are Day Tripper
and Blackbird. And Phil sang Why Don't We Do It In The Road.
JimK
Bruce
> Yeah, I know they do that every Halloween. I have recordings of a few
> of them--Talking Heads, last year's Rolling Stones show. But I don't
> have the White Album, which sounds like fun. 1994 was the golden era,
> that would be a good show to track down.
The official release sounds great:
http://www.livephish.com/live-music/0,491/Phish-mp3-flac-download-10-31-1994-Glens-Falls-Civic-Center-Glens-Falls-NY.html
I think While My Guitar Gently Weeps is the only tune from it that's
still in their repertoire, but I think they do a nice job with it.
9fingers
True. For some reason, Dylan songs worked well, but Beatles songs
sounded stiff.