Well, I sat by her side and for a while I tried
To make that girl my wife
She gave me her best advice and she said
"Go home and lead a quiet life."
Well, I've been to the east and I've been to the west
And I've been out where the black winds roar
Somehow, though, I never did get that far
With the girl from the Red River shore
Well, I knew when I first laid eyes on her
I could never be free
One look at her and I knew right away
She should always be with me
Well, the dream dried up a long time ago
Don't know where it is anymore
True to life, true to me
Was the girl from the Red River shore
Now I'm wearing the cloak of misery
And I've tasted jilted love
And the frozen smile upon my face
Fits me like a glove
But I can't escape from the memory
Of the one that I'll always adore
All those nights when I lay in the arms
Of the girl from the Red River shore
Well, we're living in the shadows of a fading past
Trapped in the fires of time
I've tried not to ever hurt anybody
And to stay out of a life of crime
And when it's all been said and done
I never did know the score
One more day is another day away
From the girl from the Red River shore
Well, I'm a stranger here in a strange land
But I know this is where I belong
I'll ramble and gamble for the one I love
And the hills will give me a song
Though nothing looks familiar to me
I know I've stayed here before
Once, a thousand nights ago
With the girl from the Red River shore
Well, I went back to see about it once
Went back to straighten it out
Everybody that I talked to had seen us there
Said they didn't know who I was talking about
Well, the sun went down on me a long time ago
I've had to fall back from the door
I wish I could have spent every hour of my life
With the girl from the Red River shore
Now, I've heard of a guy who lived a long time ago
A man full of sorrow and strife
Whenever someone around him died and was dead
He knew how to bring 'em on back to life
Well, I don't know what kind of language he used
Or if they do that kind of thing anymore
Sometimes I think nobody ever saw me here at all
'Cept the girl from the Red River shore
I find it interesting that Red Rver Shore is listed as being a
"dramatic re-working of the song made famous by The Kingston
Trio"...now I cannot find the exact quote...but look at the above
lyrics and compare it to these, and you'll see...
That there is absolutely no comparison.
None Whatsoever..
I suppose a guy who would purposely leave Blind Willie Mctell off of
Infidels can not shock us too much more by leaving this song off of
Time Out of Mind, yet...
I am still shocked, and insanely grateful it is now with Us...and I
still cannot wait for Bootleg series 9...10, 11, 53, etc...
And now I see where this comes from: She wrote me a letter/she wrote
it so kind ...
LYRICS:
At the foot of yon mountain, where the big river flows, there's a fond
creation and a soft wind that blows.
There lives a fair maiden, she's the one I adore. She's the one I will
marry on the Red River shore.
She wrote me a letter. She wrote it so kind and in that letter these
words you will find.
;Come back to me, darling, you're the one I adore. You're the one I
will marry on the Red River shore.
I jumped on my bronco and away I did ride to marry my true love on the
Red River side.
But her pa knew the secret and with twenty and four come to fight this
young cowboy on the Red River shore.
I grabbed my six shooter, spun 'round and 'round 'til six men were
wounded and seven were down.
I can't fight an army of twenty and four when I'm bound for my true
love on the Red River shore.
At the foot of yon mountain, where the big river flows, there's a fond
creation and a soft wind that blows.
And there lives a fair maiden, she's the one I adore, but never will
marry on the Red River shore
I hate to say this now, but when does the next bootleg series come
out? I just can't get enought of this stuff.
I don't mean to harp on this. Believe me, I HATE listening to this
song, reading these lyrics, thinking it was for me.
But it was written around the time of T[O]oM, and that is almost
exactly 1000 nights after our meeting in Oz. (Lied Theatre, Kansas,
4/9/94).
I mean, I want to say, it HAS to be me, but the song is so
metaphorical (poor wc), I can't get excited about it, like I did about
Rollin' and Tumblin' and Spirit on the Water. :(
You don't even read my posts. You told me so yourself. You have no
idea what happened between Bob and me, and you don't know why I think
he is singing about me.
Talking about it to me as if you are some sort of expert on the
subject, just makes you look stupid, in my opinion.
Read all my posts, or shut the fuck up.
So uh, what did happen?
>
> Talking about it to me as if you are some sort of expert on the
> subject, just makes you look stupid, in my opinion.
>
> Read all my posts, or shut the fuck up.
I'm reading all of your posts right now. I'm almost done with 2006.
Hello again.
I would like to apologize to AndoDoug for snapping.
Seriously, I just woke up, I was in a BAD mood, I was kind of involved
with some bulimia, due to left over food from yesterday, not to get
too specific, and it just pissed me off.
I don't mind people saying "you're crazy, bob isn't singing about you"
or whatever, but not in AndoDoug's case, where I was just talking with
him recently, and I said, (insert: so then) do you have any idea why I
think Bob Dylan is singing about me? (sorry, first question was, do
you read my posts. answer, NO.)
I mean, he has NO IDEA what happened that night, or even following, so
it's like, just shut up already, you don't even know enough to make an
informed judgement.
That's all.
Sorry for snapping.
It's in the archives. Why should I have to do your homework for you?
One last thing. I talk to AndoDoug the way he talks to me. I mean, I
wouldn't have said "shut the fuck up" to just anybody.
He calls me a c-u-n-t, he calls me fatass, he says I'm a big fat piece
of ass, etc..and likes rough talk. So I'm just saying, I treat him and
talk to him the way he talks to me.
JSYK.
Oh my God .. all 10,208 of them in all 95 groups ???
>On Oct 9, 8:40 am, geminijackso...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Oct 9, 11:18 am, The Hysterical Bride <rache...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Oct 9, 7:57 am, AndoDoug <andodoug...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > Get over it, rachel--you will have a lot to regret in life if you
>> > > don't quit spinning yarns about your liason with his Bobness. move on
>> > > dot org for the love of Pete
>>
>> > You don't even read my posts. You told me so yourself. You have no
>> > idea what happened between Bob and me, and you don't know why I think
>> > he is singing about me.
>>
>> So uh, what did happen?
>
>It's in the archives. Why should I have to do your homework for you?
Searching for a specific post of yours that contains the words Dylan,
Singing, and Me? Nah.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Talking about it to me as if you are some sort of expert on the
>> > subject, just makes you look stupid, in my opinion.
>>
>> > Read all my posts, or shut the fuck up.
>>
>> I'm reading all of your posts right now. I'm almost done with 2006.
-GJ
It's such a long story I told it in bits and pieces a little bit all
over the years. I've been here since 1997, then started posting
regularly in 2002. But I didn't come here to tell my Bob Dylan story.
It just sort of trickled out,. eventually.
I'm totally sick of it.
Don't worry about it. AndoDoug is probably right.
It's not about me.
Forget it.
It's a waste of time. :)
When we saw Dylan in concert in Hamilton on August 20th, 2008, we
noticed that he was wearing a wedding ring on the appropriate finger.
Do you have any information about this?
Temporary
I've heard about it, and seen pictures of it, yes.
Was it the sparkly diamond one, or something else (like a gold band)?
It was a simple gold band, yes.
Also, just to explain where I am coming from, the first time I saw it,
was during video footage of Spirit on the Water, a song which I
thought was about me, so the obsessive delusional part of me thought
he was wearing it for me, and since he didn't wear it all the time, I
thought it meant he wasn't really married.
I'm not sure why he wears it sometimes. You know how they say Bob
Dylan likes to play mind games and joust with his audience. I think
it's part of the mystery he likes to keep surrounding him.
However, if he really is married, then I just don't know what to say,
I feel stupid for doing this, and I wish I really knew for sure.
Several or more years ago, I met someone who knew someone who hung out
with this woman, who was Bob Dylan's "long time companion" and "he
doesn't even sleep with her," and I was told he was "totally free,
single and available."
Again, if he really is married, than I couldn't possibly feel more
depressed, although I am happy for him, but I wish he would stop
singing about me, since obviously he doesn't mean it. He's just using
me as a muse, and if he's married, I sure wish he'd stop it. I wish he
didn't ever do it in the first place. Or, maybe I'm just wrong, and
it's not about me.
But I really think it is. Whether he is married, or not.
Oh, well, I've never heard of that.
Thanks for telling me.
I will now proceed to go flush myself down the toilet.
It wasn't my intention to make you feel that way.
Thanks.
haha no hard feelings, slut.
p.s. i never say 'fatass'
exactly.
and i purposely put on 15-20 pounds before I did, because I thought
Bob liked large women. (long story)
and i had no idea how to dance, it was the most embarrassing few
mintues of my life, i was dying of embarrassment inside, i wanted to
disappear.
Did you hear the loud knocking on the railing of the balcony after "I
and I"? (That's why I jumped up out of my seat, and ran down, for my
life. I thought he was calling me, long story.)
OH MY FUCKING G-D. Something just happened. I am so cynical, I don't
want to get happy. But you just HAVE to understand. I WANT TO MARRY
BOB DYLAN MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD.
I was just hanging around, there's a good movie on, but I am sort of
waiting for rockindoc to answer me, so I keep hanging around the
computer, I got kinda bored, so I thought I'd go look at pictures of
Bob from Mark's site (dylanstubs), the picture archive, and I clicked
on 2008 to see him recently, it's more real that way, very alive, and
THEN it hit me, I WONDER if I can find a picture with that gold
wedding band on.
And I clicked on a picture that was very small, you can barely see,
but both of his hands were up in the air, so I clicked on it to open
it, and it was UNBELIEVABLE.
NO! I DON'T WANT TO BE HAPPY! I AM NOT HAPPY! I WILL ONLY BE HAPPY
WHEN I AM SNUGGLING IN A BED WITH BOB DYLAN.
But this is REALLY weird. Check this picture out!!!!!!!!!!!
http://dylanstubs.com/pictures/2008_2/Zaragoza_2008_Vicente_Jorcano_6.html
He has the same ring on BOTH HANDS!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK????????????
It's VERY STRANGE, and I just want to believe that he is not married
SO BAD, but it's so hard, because he's so great, I just think, oh, he
has to be married. His life is full and complete and he doesn't need
me for anything, unless he's just using me as a muse or something
stupid like that. Good for you Bob. Bad for me and my useless vagina. :
(
But this is just SO WEIRD.
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A GOOD MOOD ABOUT IT, but I am just sharing the
picture.
Temporary, is this the ring that you saw?????????????????
http://dylanstubs.com/pictures/2008_2/Zaragoza_2008_Vicente_Jorcano_6.html
Oh, and btw, Mr. Dylan. You look VERY HANDSOME in that picture. (no
fooling)
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DON'T BE MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MARRY ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is completely inaccurate.
This woman has nothing better to do than harrass me.
It's so strange. She used to be my friend, and then one day, she just
totally turned on me.
It's insane.
I wonder what happened.
Temporary
"Completely inaccurate"?
According to your Google newsgroups profile, next to "Recent
Activity":
Activity in all 95 groups -- 10228 messages.
Oh no. I'm sorry. You are right. I was just looking at the about group
page, where it says that I made 8 thousand or so posts. That was only
to RMD.
But you have to remember, I haven't posted to most of those groups.
They are multiple crossposts that went out unbeknownst to me. I have
only posted on purpose of my own volition to four groups that I know
of. Dylan, Kibology, and a few to Mystery, and Bealtes.
Oh well.
Back to not really knowing again.
I know I should be mad at him, either way, whether he's married or
not, but I just don't have the heart.
Never mind.
I guess it was just a massive auditory hallucination.
Just a thought. A meek suggestion.
On Sep 30, 5:30 am, Adam.Sel...@gmail.com wrote:
> Some of us turn off the lights and we live
> In the moonlight shooting by
> Some of us scare ourselves to death in the dark
> To be where the angels fly
> Pretty maids all in a row lined up
> Outside my cabin door
> I've never wanted any of them wanting me
> 'Cept the girl from theRedRivershore
>
> Well, I sat by her side and for a while I tried
> To make that girl my wife
> She gave me her best advice and she said
> "Go home and lead a quiet life."
> Well, I've been to the east and I've been to the west
> And I've been out where the black winds roar
> Somehow, though, I never did get that far
> With the girl from theRedRivershore
>
> Well, I knew when I first laid eyes on her
> I could never be free
> One look at her and I knew right away
> She should always be with me
> Well, the dream dried up a long time ago
> Don't know where it is anymore
> True to life, true to me
> Was the girl from theRedRivershore
>
> Now I'm wearing the cloak of misery
> And I've tasted jilted love
> And the frozen smile upon my face
> Fits me like a glove
> But I can't escape from the memory
> Of the one that I'll always adore
> All those nights when I lay in the arms
> Of the girl from theRedRivershore
>
> Well, we're living in the shadows of a fading past
> Trapped in the fires of time
> I've tried not to ever hurt anybody
> And to stay out of a life of crime
> And when it's all been said and done
> I never did know the score
> One more day is another day away
> From the girl from theRedRivershore
>
> Well, I'm a stranger here in a strange land
> But I know this is where I belong
> I'll ramble and gamble for the one I love
> And the hills will give me a song
> Though nothing looks familiar to me
> I know I've stayed here before
> Once, a thousand nights ago
> With the girl from theRedRivershore
>
> Well, I went back to see about it once
> Went back to straighten it out
> Everybody that I talked to had seen us there
> Said they didn't know who I was talking about
> Well, the sun went down on me a long time ago
> I've had to fall back from the door
> I wish I could have spent every hour of my life
> With the girl from theRedRivershore
>
> Now, I've heard of a guy who lived a long time ago
> A man full of sorrow and strife
> Whenever someone around him died and was dead
> He knew how to bring 'em on back to life
> Well, I don't know what kind of language he used
> Or if they do that kind of thing anymore
> Sometimes I think nobody ever saw me here at all
> 'Cept the girl from theRedRivershore
This isn't an isolated incident. Over the years he's regularily pronounced
things so that they can be heard two different ways. Usually both
interpretations work in one way or another. Once might be an accident or
mispronounciation. But so many times is probably deliberate.
In my opinion, the word is unquestionable "live". There can be no
doubt that the next line begins with "In". That would tend to make the
idea of "laugh" untenable -- "We laugh in the moonlight shootin' by"?
The 'v" of "live" is also emphasized -- again making it untenable to
believe that he says "laugh".
Temporary
> In my opinion, the word is unquestionable "live". There can be no
> doubt that the next line begins with "In". That would tend to make the
> idea of "laugh" untenable -- "We laugh in the moonlight shootin' by"?
> The 'v" of "live" is also emphasized -- again making it untenable to
> believe that he says "laugh".
>
> Temporary-
Laugh in the moonlight is untenable?
I suppose that means that you can't "Sing in the Rain" either. Live
in the moonlight makes less sense to me. Then next line uses scare
which is a nice juxtaposition with laugh. Live seems too permanent
when the setting seems to be a Temporary one.
And the 'v' and 'gh' sound in this case aren't all that different -
just ask my 5 year old. Of course he also thought 'drink' should
start with a 'J' becuase that's how it sounds when people say it.
___________________________________________________________
Frankly, I first heard it, not as live or laugh, but rather lie, which makes
the most sense of all.
I think any of the three works, for different reasons.
It isn't just your 5 year old. Most first graders spell dr with a j as in
"get jressed," and tr as ch...as in drive my chruck and th as f as in wif.
Sometimes it's hard to convince them otherwize.