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Fuhrel, Robert
May 13, 2013, 9:52:51 AM5/13/13
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As a current but soon to be former English teacher (41 years in), I echo reallyreal about the value of fiction.
And I have read Proust, completely, but in English. I had a job in the late seventies for about eight months observing mostly sleeping but always sedated organic brain syndrom patients at a treatment center in Florida, and I had plenty of time to read. It is beautiful stuff, in the way he builds sentences like the edifices of the great European cathedrals, and in the way he structures the entire seven volumes. You will learn a great deal about memory and time.
Best,
Bob
And I have read Proust, completely, but in English. I had a job in the late seventies for about eight months observing mostly sleeping but always sedated organic brain syndrom patients at a treatment center in Florida, and I had plenty of time to read. It is beautiful stuff, in the way he builds sentences like the edifices of the great European cathedrals, and in the way he structures the entire seven volumes. You will learn a great deal about memory and time.
Best,
Bob
Tif
May 13, 2013, 11:40:18 AM5/13/13
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For my 16th birthday, I i asked for the complete set of A la Recherche
du Temps Perdu ( in French since I was living and studying in Paris at
the time). It was an expensive gift to ask for ( everything is
relative, right?) but i managed to speak my wishes, not an easy thing
to do at times, is it?... and my parents gifted me the needed amount
of money and I went and bought the set. I don't remember many gifts of
my youth but that one, I do remember.
Later, I chose to study and 'earn' a Licence es Lettres in Literature,
I intuitively knew that I would discover a lot about the human psyche,
including mine, while interacting with the creative endeavors of
great minds.
I have not stopped, only expanded the field of my research and
outreach to include a number of related subjects.
I never had a sweet 16th coming out debutante party tho'.
Oh well...
Just Walkin'
May 13, 2013, 6:11:26 PM5/13/13
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people but shuns their literature such as the great novels of Zora
Neale Hurston, Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison, Alice
Walker, Toni Morrison, or most of all, Ishmael Reed, is either an
extraordinarily shallow person or a shill for the worst aspects of the
music business.
Can you just hear it now? "Sing and dance for me boy, I ain't got no
time and not the slightest inclination to read nuthin' you ever
wrote..."
Bernie Woodham
May 13, 2013, 7:38:53 PM5/13/13
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http://www.amazon.com/In-Search-Lost-Time-Complete/dp/0812969642/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
Just Walkin'
May 13, 2013, 10:11:49 PM5/13/13
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reeling from a comment made in the thread that prompted really real's
remarks on fiction and needed to vent. Indeed the mere act of reading
itself heaps build memory and intelligence, especially works by
authors such as Proust who use their skills to create meaningful
readers' engagements. Best part is that fiction has no anapestic beats
with which to destroy brain cells, a common trait among those who
eschew our species' fictive works.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 10:28:29 PM5/13/13
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On May 13, 6:11 pm, "Just Walkin'" <kensh...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Seems to me anyone who claims an affinity for the music of black
> people but shuns their literature such as the great novels of Zora
> Neale Hurston, Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison, Alice
> Walker, Toni Morrison, or most of all, Ishmael Reed, is either an
> extraordinarily shallow person or a shill for the worst aspects of the
> music business.
So, you're saying anybody who has no interest in literature is a
>
> Seems to me anyone who claims an affinity for the music of black
> people but shuns their literature such as the great novels of Zora
> Neale Hurston, Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison, Alice
> Walker, Toni Morrison, or most of all, Ishmael Reed, is either an
> extraordinarily shallow person or a shill for the worst aspects of the
> music business.
shallow person?
How about someone who has major interests in history, but no interest
in literature, is that person still shallow?
> Can you just hear it now? "Sing and dance for me boy, I ain't got no
> time and not the slightest inclination to read nuthin' you ever
> wrote..."
B - I don't have the slightest interest in fiction written by whites
either.
I do plenty of reading, just not fiction.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 10:43:40 PM5/13/13
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> Seems to me anyone who claims an affinity for the music of black
> people (is) a shill for the worst aspects of the
> music business.
Why would black music be associated with "the worst aspects of the
music business."
Fuhrel, Robert
May 14, 2013, 12:03:18 PM5/14/13
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I resend my post below and the apparent non-sequitur response it drew. What has my praise of Proust say about my respect and admiration for the African-American authors mentioned in the response? I would submit "absolutely nothing," to quote War. Just as an aside, I am about halfway through Tony Morrison's beautiful Jazz. And what happened to Walter Mosely here?
Best,
Bob
On May 13, 8:52=A0am, robert.fuh...@csn.edu (Fuhrel, Robert) wrote:
> As a current but soon to be former English teacher (41 years in), I echo =
late seventies for about eight months observing mostly sleeping but always=
sedated organic brain syndrom patients at a treatment center in Florida, a=
nd I had plenty of time to read. =A0It is beautiful stuff, in the way he bu=
ilds sentences like the edifices of the great European cathedrals, and in t=
he way he structures the entire seven volumes. =A0You will learn a great de=
music business.
Best,
Bob
On May 13, 8:52=A0am, robert.fuh...@csn.edu (Fuhrel, Robert) wrote:
> As a current but soon to be former English teacher (41 years in), I echo =
reallyreal about the value of fiction.
> And I have read Proust, completely, but in English. =A0I had a job in the=
late seventies for about eight months observing mostly sleeping but always=
sedated organic brain syndrom patients at a treatment center in Florida, a=
nd I had plenty of time to read. =A0It is beautiful stuff, in the way he bu=
ilds sentences like the edifices of the great European cathedrals, and in t=
he way he structures the entire seven volumes. =A0You will learn a great de=
al about memory and time.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
Seems to me anyone who claims an affinity for the music of black
people but shuns their literature such as the great novels of Zora
Neale Hurston, Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison, Alice
Walker, Toni Morrison, or most of all, Ishmael Reed, is either an
extraordinarily shallow person or a shill for the worst aspects of the
Neale Hurston, Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison, Alice
Walker, Toni Morrison, or most of all, Ishmael Reed, is either an
music business.
Martin in Montclair
May 14, 2013, 12:19:13 PM5/14/13
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One odd thing: I read, and loved the Moncrieff translation, and didn't like it as much when I read the newer versions. Have no views on how they hold up to the
original French, but Montcrieff's seemed more authentic, somehow.
Martin (in Montclair) Golan
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 14, 2013, 7:33:31 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 6:06 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> that's an indisputably shallow statement.
You're entitled to your opinion, as shallow as it is.
> > I do plenty of reading, just not fiction.
>
> Yes, I've seen you tout your favorite writer: the guy who compiles books
> of Billboard chart positions.
No, my favorite writer is Bill James.
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > So, you're saying anybody who has no interest in literature is a
> > shallow person?
>
> > How about someone who has major interests in history, but no interest
> > in literature, is that person still shallow?
>
> When you dismiss all of fiction as "some schmuck's fantasies," I'd say
>
> > So, you're saying anybody who has no interest in literature is a
> > shallow person?
>
> > How about someone who has major interests in history, but no interest
> > in literature, is that person still shallow?
>
> that's an indisputably shallow statement.
You're entitled to your opinion, as shallow as it is.
> > I do plenty of reading, just not fiction.
>
> of Billboard chart positions.
No, my favorite writer is Bill James.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 14, 2013, 8:18:49 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 7:52 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > When you dismiss all of fiction as "some schmuck's fantasies," I'd say
> > > that's an indisputably shallow statement.
>
> > You're entitled to your opinion, as shallow as it is.
>
> <eyeroll>
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > When you dismiss all of fiction as "some schmuck's fantasies," I'd say
> > > that's an indisputably shallow statement.
>
> > You're entitled to your opinion, as shallow as it is.
>
>
> > > > I do plenty of reading, just not fiction.
>
> > > Yes, I've seen you tout your favorite writer: the guy who compiles books
> > > of Billboard chart positions.
>
> > No, my favorite writer is Bill James.
>
> I didn't know this name, but guessed that he was a baseball writer. Yup,
> > > > I do plenty of reading, just not fiction.
>
> > > Yes, I've seen you tout your favorite writer: the guy who compiles books
> > > of Billboard chart positions.
>
> > No, my favorite writer is Bill James.
>
> I was right. So he's just the baseball version of Whitburn.
>
> I really don't think you view baseball and music much differently.
> They're both just fertile ground for compiling statistics.
Wrong, as usual.
I umpire baseball games every day, and it has nothing to do with
statistics. The only statistic we care about is time of game.
But even if you were correct, what makes you think that fiction is
more important than statistics?
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gemjack
May 14, 2013, 8:35:58 PM5/14/13
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On Tue, 14 May 2013 17:34:57 -0700, poisoned rose
<pro...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>> I umpire baseball games every day, and it has nothing to do with
>> statistics. The only statistic we care about is time of game.
>
>Really? I thought you guys worried about stuff like number of outs, the
<pro...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>> I umpire baseball games every day, and it has nothing to do with
>> statistics. The only statistic we care about is time of game.
>
>inning and batter count.
You missed a great opportunity here to point out that even at this, he
only cares about the 'hits'.
-gj
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 14, 2013, 8:44:25 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 8:34 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > I really don't think you view baseball and music much differently.
> > > They're both just fertile ground for compiling statistics.
>
> > Wrong, as usual.
>
> > I umpire baseball games every day, and it has nothing to do with
> > statistics. The only statistic we care about is time of game.
>
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > I really don't think you view baseball and music much differently.
> > > They're both just fertile ground for compiling statistics.
>
> > Wrong, as usual.
>
> > I umpire baseball games every day, and it has nothing to do with
> > statistics. The only statistic we care about is time of game.
>
> Really? I thought you guys worried about stuff like number of outs, the
> inning and batter count.
>
> inning and batter count.
>
> > But even if you were correct, what makes you think that fiction is
> > more important than statistics?
>
> When assessing writers, it is. Otherwise, the Census Bureau would have
> > more important than statistics?
>
> won more Pulitzers.
The Pulitzer Prize pron.: /ˈpʊlɨtsər/ is a U.S. award for achievements
in newspaper and online journalism, literature, and musical
composition.
There are more awards for writing about reality than for fiction.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 14, 2013, 8:55:58 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 8:48 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > The Pulitzer Prize pron.: /?p?l?ts?r/ is a U.S. award for achievements
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > in newspaper and online journalism, literature, and musical
> > composition.
>
> > There are more awards for writing about reality than for fiction.
>
> Who won the Pulitzer for listing stats?
> > composition.
>
> > There are more awards for writing about reality than for fiction.
>
Who makes more money, the accountants for hedge funds or Pulitzer
prize winning fiction writers?
Statistics are far more important in the world than literature. If not
for some stats geek we would not have Usenet to post on. Instead you'd
be reading Moby Dick by candlelight.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 14, 2013, 9:15:35 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 9:00 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The Pulitzer Prize pron.: /?p?l?ts?r/ is a U.S. award for achievements
> > > > in newspaper and online journalism, literature, and musical
> > > > composition.
>
> > > > There are more awards for writing about reality than for fiction.
>
> > > Who won the Pulitzer for listing stats?
>
> > Who makes more money, the accountants for hedge funds or Pulitzer
> > prize winning fiction writers?
>
> God. Just you look at you frantically shifting goalposts.
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The Pulitzer Prize pron.: /?p?l?ts?r/ is a U.S. award for achievements
> > > > in newspaper and online journalism, literature, and musical
> > > > composition.
>
> > > > There are more awards for writing about reality than for fiction.
>
> > > Who won the Pulitzer for listing stats?
>
> > Who makes more money, the accountants for hedge funds or Pulitzer
> > prize winning fiction writers?
>
>
> Sorry, you're still no closer to proving your "some schmuck's fantasies"
> dismissal isn't ridiculously shallow.
Literature is way down on the list of what's important to human beings
in the world.
People spend more money on prostitutes then on literature.
icn...@gmail.com
May 14, 2013, 11:37:26 PM5/14/13
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On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important... No, it's not as important as food, water, clothing, shelter or love... but the world would be immesurably impoverished without fiction...
Just Walkin'
May 15, 2013, 1:05:34 AM5/15/13
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On May 14, 10:37 pm, icn...@gmail.com wrote:
> On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important... No, it's not as important as food, water, clothing, shelter or love... but the world would be immesurably impoverished without fiction...
>
Indeed, from the beginning, we've understood our world and our lives
> On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important... No, it's not as important as food, water, clothing, shelter or love... but the world would be immesurably impoverished without fiction...
>
through what is called "story." This is our species practice of
rendering meaning and memory to each other, first orally and then
through the written word, to document the lessons of the past or
demonstrate actions and behaviors of interest to people in similar
situations for the future. While market culture tries to commodify
story as product, and promote it as a product preference, it's
function is intrinsic in our lives and definition as humans.
Hence, people who deny the value of fiction in all of our lives, not
as a product or market preference, but as a force of humanity in
shaping character and helping people understand and achieve their
dilemmas and destinies, are in denial of their own humanity. And of
course, they are living an illusion if they enjoy cinema, the lazy way
to "story," or the entertainment of sport, that fictive story of
conflict and shortcut to its catharsis but without the detail...or
meaning.
Besides, while Ron Luciano may have written 2 of the funniest books
ever written, they, in fact, were not fiction, even if they did spill
the beans on industrial kayfabe, a good a story as ever yet written.
But behind this scene, the fantasies of you, the fans AND
statisticians, can be found in a modest piece of fiction written by
Robert Coover, a compassionate story of baseball and obsession.
Don't even think of looking for the movie. The book nails it...
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 1:15:20 AM5/15/13
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On May 14, 11:37 pm, icn...@gmail.com wrote:
> On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important... No, it's not as important as food, water, clothing, shelter or love... but the world would be immesurably impoverished without fiction...
http://www.tactical-graphic-design.com/download-clipart-files/characters/clip-art-characters-man-violin-01.gif
> On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important... No, it's not as important as food, water, clothing, shelter or love... but the world would be immesurably impoverished without fiction...
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 1:18:00 AM5/15/13
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On May 15, 1:05 am, "Just Walkin'" <kensh...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Besides, while Ron Luciano may have written 2 of the funniest books
> ever written, they, in fact, were not fiction, even if they did spill
> the beans on industrial kayfabe, a good a story as ever yet written.
His books were horseshit, and so was he.
>
> Besides, while Ron Luciano may have written 2 of the funniest books
> ever written, they, in fact, were not fiction, even if they did spill
> the beans on industrial kayfabe, a good a story as ever yet written.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 1:25:46 AM5/15/13
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> But behind this scene, the fantasies of you, the fans AND
> statisticians, can be found in a modest piece of fiction written by
> Robert Coover, a compassionate story of baseball and obsession.
Fag.
> statisticians, can be found in a modest piece of fiction written by
> Robert Coover, a compassionate story of baseball and obsession.
You'd rather read some dumb fictional story about a guy playing "Dice
Baseball" and getting carried away over it than something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pitch_That_Killed
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 1:32:57 AM5/15/13
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Here's some of my favorite books.
CASEY Award recipients
1986 – Bill James, for “The Bill James Historical Abstract”
1989 – Mike Sowell, for “The Pitch That Killed”
2003 – Michael Lewis, for Moneyball
You fags can shove your fiction up your Bob Dylan ass sniffing noses.
CASEY Award recipients
1986 – Bill James, for “The Bill James Historical Abstract”
1989 – Mike Sowell, for “The Pitch That Killed”
2003 – Michael Lewis, for Moneyball
You fags can shove your fiction up your Bob Dylan ass sniffing noses.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 1:40:34 AM5/15/13
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http://www.amazon.com/The-Hidden-Game-Baseball-Revolutionary/dp/038518283X
Just Walkin'
May 15, 2013, 1:56:07 AM5/15/13
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As for everything you say hereafter: QED
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 2:21:25 AM5/15/13
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 2:26:22 AM5/15/13
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> On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important...
Given a choice would you get rid of your computer, or get rid of
literature?
How about, given a choice, would you get rid of cars, or literature?
Would you get rid of phones, or literature?
Would you get rid of hospitals or literature?
Would you be willing to keep literature if it meant that you had to go
back to hunting for your food every day?
Weekes, Ron
May 15, 2013, 2:41:46 AM5/15/13
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So here is a question for you all. Can I ask something Dylan related? In the few short months I've been on this list, an amazing number of posts don't even discuss Mr. D.
For the record collectors/audiophiles on the list, what do you think of the sonic quality of the Mobile Fidelity Labs Dylan LP's? Did MFSL do any tinkering with with the master tapes like they did with The Beatles catalog?
Ron Ji
For the record collectors/audiophiles on the list, what do you think of the sonic quality of the Mobile Fidelity Labs Dylan LP's? Did MFSL do any tinkering with with the master tapes like they did with The Beatles catalog?
Ron Ji
Dr_dudley
May 15, 2013, 4:32:16 AM5/15/13
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On May 15, 2:41 am, WEEK...@byui.edu (Weekes, Ron) wrote:
Ji,
> So here is a question for you all. Can I ask something Dylan related?
of course you can. just limit your expectation.
> In the few short months I've been on this list, an amazing number of posts don't even discuss Mr. D.
>
i'm not sure but i think there are hereabouts refugees from another
group who are continuing their staledated badinage as if usenet still
was current. adolescence dies hard.
> For the record collectors/audiophiles on the list, what do you think of the sonic quality of the Mobile Fidelity Labs Dylan LP's? Did MFSL do any tinkering with with the master tapes like they did with The Beatles catalog?
now there's an area of dylanalia to which i can't speak. i'm more
likely to transfer my old beat-to-shit vinyl to WAV than to update my
dylna library with remastered rereleased audio in any format. i'll
poke around tho'. limit your expectation.
i'm sure if i put my mind to it i could dredge up a wittily insulting
meme, but it escapes me momentarily.
>
> Ron Ji
sat nam,
dudley
___
Bob Dylan - "All Along The Watchtower" - Kingston, RI - 04/08/2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx4cbpdvlo
Bob Dylan 4/16/2013 Things Have Changed Richmond, VA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_xzJRZYP2M
Visions of Johanna - Bob Dylan Akron 2013 live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ooxNGXZDdE
i'm still examining the nightingale's code
Ji,
> So here is a question for you all. Can I ask something Dylan related?
> In the few short months I've been on this list, an amazing number of posts don't even discuss Mr. D.
>
group who are continuing their staledated badinage as if usenet still
was current. adolescence dies hard.
> For the record collectors/audiophiles on the list, what do you think of the sonic quality of the Mobile Fidelity Labs Dylan LP's? Did MFSL do any tinkering with with the master tapes like they did with The Beatles catalog?
likely to transfer my old beat-to-shit vinyl to WAV than to update my
dylna library with remastered rereleased audio in any format. i'll
poke around tho'. limit your expectation.
i'm sure if i put my mind to it i could dredge up a wittily insulting
meme, but it escapes me momentarily.
>
> Ron Ji
sat nam,
dudley
___
Bob Dylan - "All Along The Watchtower" - Kingston, RI - 04/08/2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx4cbpdvlo
Bob Dylan 4/16/2013 Things Have Changed Richmond, VA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_xzJRZYP2M
Visions of Johanna - Bob Dylan Akron 2013 live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ooxNGXZDdE
i'm still examining the nightingale's code
M. Rick
May 15, 2013, 7:41:15 AM5/15/13
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This season’s RMD batting averages:
Joltin’ Jesus Jumbo = .045
Poison Peety Rose = .033
Bloomfield Bimbino= .002
Not exactly Murderer’s Row.
Joltin’ Jesus Jumbo = .045
Poison Peety Rose = .033
Bloomfield Bimbino= .002
Not exactly Murderer’s Row.
M. Rick
May 15, 2013, 7:42:28 AM5/15/13
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> People spend more money on prostitutes then on literature.
Then? Sounds like you're a steady customer. With syphilis.
M. Rick
May 15, 2013, 7:57:40 AM5/15/13
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Actually our resident reality preacher has more in common than he
thinks with Dylan fans, because each fiction found in Dylan is matched
to one (and only one) item from reality, and then stuffed into a gold-
plated casket. Now perhaps I should be taken to task for using
fictions like “gold-plated casket.” Fair enough. In reality, all the
caskets owned by Dylan fans are solid gold, like King Tut, with secret
compartments for bootleg and memorabila collections. May the curse of
Victor Buono be upon you.
thinks with Dylan fans, because each fiction found in Dylan is matched
to one (and only one) item from reality, and then stuffed into a gold-
plated casket. Now perhaps I should be taken to task for using
fictions like “gold-plated casket.” Fair enough. In reality, all the
caskets owned by Dylan fans are solid gold, like King Tut, with secret
compartments for bootleg and memorabila collections. May the curse of
Victor Buono be upon you.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 9:55:31 AM5/15/13
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On May 15, 2:26 am, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 11:37 pm, icn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important...
Would you give up electricity or literature?
> On May 14, 11:37 pm, icn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important...
Would you give up television or literature?
Would you give up music or literature?
really real
May 15, 2013, 9:56:14 AM5/15/13
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> For the record collectors/audiophiles on the list, what do you think of the sonic quality of the Mobile Fidelity Labs Dylan LP's? Did MFSL do any tinkering with with the master tapes like they did with The Beatles catalog?
>
really real
May 15, 2013, 9:57:10 AM5/15/13
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> Would you give up electricity or literature?
>
>
>
> Would you give up television or literature?
>
>
>
> Would you give up music or literature?
Just Kidding
May 15, 2013, 10:25:34 AM5/15/13
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On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:37:26 -0700 (PDT), icn...@gmail.com wrote:
> On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important... No, it's not as important as food, water, clothing, shelter or love... but the world would be immesurably impoverished without fiction...
I'm not into them personally, but one has to acknowledge how
> On the contrary, Literature is way UP on a list of what's important... No, it's not as important as food, water, clothing, shelter or love... but the world would be immesurably impoverished without fiction...
influential works of fiction like the Bible and the Koran have been.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 11:15:13 AM5/15/13
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But influence does not equal importance.
Just Kidding
May 15, 2013, 12:58:26 PM5/15/13
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religious zealots?
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 15, 2013, 1:19:41 PM5/15/13
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On May 15, 12:58 pm, Just Kidding <JustKidd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT), The Bloomfield Buddy
>
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT), The Bloomfield Buddy
>
Religion is one of the WORST things that ever happened to humanity.
Tif
May 15, 2013, 3:56:50 PM5/15/13
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On May 15, 1:32 am, Dr_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
> On May 15, 2:41 am, WEEK...@byui.edu (Weekes, Ron) wrote:
> Ji,
>
> > So here is a question for you all. Can I ask something Dylan related?
>
> of course you can. just limit your expectation.
Lol.
> On May 15, 2:41 am, WEEK...@byui.edu (Weekes, Ron) wrote:
> Ji,
>
> > So here is a question for you all. Can I ask something Dylan related?
>
> of course you can. just limit your expectation.
Because I am semi steeped in this reality, it is only semi-reluctantly
that I endorse your advice to Ron. Whenever I stand on the other side
of the horizon, even the sky does not limit my expectations tho' I
myself will at times, for the sake of balance and friendly acceptance
of what just is
>
> > In the few short months I've been on this list, an amazing number of posts don't even discuss Mr. D.
>
> i'm not sure but i think there are hereabouts refugees from another
> group who are continuing their staledated badinage as if usenet still
> was current. adolescence dies hard.
It's true that adolescence dies hard in the whole wide world, isn't
> > In the few short months I've been on this list, an amazing number of posts don't even discuss Mr. D.
>
> i'm not sure but i think there are hereabouts refugees from another
> group who are continuing their staledated badinage as if usenet still
> was current. adolescence dies hard.
it? If we could do a turn around and help it live well and safe, we
might get a chance to hear agan laughter in the streets, maybe even
witness the Blush as it returns from its long exile. Now *this* would
be interesting!
>
> > For the record collectors/audiophiles on the list, what do you think of the sonic quality of the Mobile Fidelity Labs Dylan LP's? Did MFSL do any tinkering with with the master tapes like they did with The Beatles catalog?
>
> now there's an area of dylanalia to which i can't speak. i'm more
> likely to transfer my old beat-to-shit vinyl to WAV than to update my
> dylna library with remastered rereleased audio in any format. i'll
> poke around tho'. limit your expectation.
>
> i'm sure if i put my mind to it i could dredge up a wittily insulting
> meme, but it escapes me momentarily.
discourse offers more elegant winning strategies. There is little or
no reason to pollute the field more than -absolutely- necessary.
>
>
>
> > Ron Ji
>
> sat nam,
> dudley
> ___
> Bob Dylan - "All Along The Watchtower" - Kingston, RI - 04/08/2013http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfx4cbpdvlo
>
>
> > Ron Ji
>
> sat nam,
> dudley
> ___
>
> Bob Dylan 4/16/2013 Things Have Changed Richmond, VAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_xzJRZYP2M
>
> Visions of Johanna - Bob Dylan Akron 2013 livehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ooxNGXZDdE
>
> i'm still examining the nightingale's code
When you are done, consider sharing your research with all of us.
> i'm still examining the nightingale's code
Myself, I am still into deciphering the falcon's code.
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really real
May 15, 2013, 7:05:33 PM5/15/13
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>
>
> But there was a time in high school when my immediate friends and I
>
> really fetishized those thick Japanese-import LPs that Tower Records
>
> used to sell. I don't think I have any of them anymore except for
>
> Rolling Stones/Aftermath, King Crimson/Earthbound and Roxy Music/Country
>
> Life, but I kinda wish I hadn't let go of them.
I suspect these new 180 gm vinyl releases would sound as good as the old Japanese vinyl. But I don't have a turntable anymore so I don't need to find out
>
> But there was a time in high school when my immediate friends and I
>
> really fetishized those thick Japanese-import LPs that Tower Records
>
> used to sell. I don't think I have any of them anymore except for
>
> Rolling Stones/Aftermath, King Crimson/Earthbound and Roxy Music/Country
>
> Life, but I kinda wish I hadn't let go of them.
I suspect these new 180 gm vinyl releases would sound as good as the old Japanese vinyl. But I don't have a turntable anymore so I don't need to find out
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Bernie Woodham
May 15, 2013, 9:13:05 PM5/15/13
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Bernie Woodham
May 15, 2013, 9:14:54 PM5/15/13
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On May 15, 7:42 am, "M. Rick" <insomniati...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > People spend more money on prostitutes then on literature.
>
> Then? Sounds like you're a steady customer. With syphilis.
I like to think he means paperbacks have made literature pretty
> > People spend more money on prostitutes then on literature.
>
> Then? Sounds like you're a steady customer. With syphilis.
cheap ;o)
Tif
May 15, 2013, 11:49:25 PM5/15/13
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On May 13, 6:52 am, robert.fuh...@csn.edu (Fuhrel, Robert) wrote:
> As a current but soon to be former English teacher (41 years in), I echo reallyreal about the value of fiction.
> And I have read Proust, completely, but in English. I had a job in the late seventies for about eight months observing mostly sleeping but always sedated organic brain syndrom patients at a treatment center in Florida, and I had plenty of time to read. It is beautiful stuff, in the way he builds sentences like the edifices of the great European cathedrals, and in the way he structures the entire seven volumes. You will learn a great deal about memory and time.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
It is extremely difficult for me to wrap my mind around the idea of a
complex piece of literature being translated in another language until
I let myself remember that many parallel universes are being
constantly created, while we are speaking... writing... thinking...
or simply vibrating at different frequencies.
> As a current but soon to be former English teacher (41 years in), I echo reallyreal about the value of fiction.
> And I have read Proust, completely, but in English. I had a job in the late seventies for about eight months observing mostly sleeping but always sedated organic brain syndrom patients at a treatment center in Florida, and I had plenty of time to read. It is beautiful stuff, in the way he builds sentences like the edifices of the great European cathedrals, and in the way he structures the entire seven volumes. You will learn a great deal about memory and time.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
It is extremely difficult for me to wrap my mind around the idea of a
complex piece of literature being translated in another language until
I let myself remember that many parallel universes are being
constantly created, while we are speaking... writing... thinking...
or simply vibrating at different frequencies.
M. Rick
May 16, 2013, 1:21:13 AM5/16/13
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> would you give up electricity or music? There is a tough one
Air or food? If you’re the impatient type I suggest giving up air,
but remember to treat yourself to a last meal at Wendy’s. Now that’s
better.
M. Rick
May 16, 2013, 1:28:01 AM5/16/13
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> Religion is one of the WORST things that ever happened to humanity.
Money is the universal religion. The only hope for humanity is to
eliminate the man. Of course I'm not arguing for male extermination.
I'm arguing for extinction. A planet of the dolls.
BobbyM
May 16, 2013, 1:29:13 AM5/16/13
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On 16-May-13 2:21 PM, M. Rick wrote:
>> would you give up electricity or music? There is a tough one
>
> Air or food? If you�re the impatient type I suggest giving up air,
>> would you give up electricity or music? There is a tough one
>
> but remember to treat yourself to a last meal at Wendy�s. Now that�s
> better.
>
Reminds of a punchline to a joke (maybe old to some of you): upon
someone's death, one person optimistically replied, "He finally beat his
addiction to oxygen."
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