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The Bloomfield Buddy
Apr 30, 2013, 8:24:43 PM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 5:47 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> An exchange in another thread made me muse about which musicians whose
> own tastes/recommendations would most interest me. Whose advice I would
> seek for music tips, either old or new.
>
> I gave it some thought and narrowed down a set of 49 names...both
> individuals and bands. Most are still contemporary, but a few are past
> names whom I imagine asking back in their heyday.
Of course you would just dispense with the name of R&B and soul
musicians who would be on any of their lists.
> If I asked those sources for 50 "overlooked" names apiece, shuffled all
> of them together minus duplicates and removed the names whom I've
> already assessed, I'm sure that would be an amazing shopping list to
> explore.
>
> But if I just open with my own picks, this thread will become just
> another "vengefully dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair
> thread. So...what musicians would YOU cite?
Earl Lewis told me that his all time favorite record is "Dream Girl"
by Jesse & Marvin.
Southside Johnny recommended "Blue Velvet" by the Clovers.
John Lennon was a huge fan of "Some Other Guy" by Richie Barrett
Linda McCartney's all time favorite record was "White Christmas" by
the Drifters.
Other favorite songs of musicians:
Theophilus London - Marvin Gaye, “Let’s Get It On”
Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips - Louis Armstrong, “What a Wonderful
World”
> An exchange in another thread made me muse about which musicians whose
> own tastes/recommendations would most interest me. Whose advice I would
> seek for music tips, either old or new.
>
> I gave it some thought and narrowed down a set of 49 names...both
> individuals and bands. Most are still contemporary, but a few are past
> names whom I imagine asking back in their heyday.
Of course you would just dispense with the name of R&B and soul
musicians who would be on any of their lists.
> If I asked those sources for 50 "overlooked" names apiece, shuffled all
> of them together minus duplicates and removed the names whom I've
> already assessed, I'm sure that would be an amazing shopping list to
> explore.
>
> But if I just open with my own picks, this thread will become just
> another "vengefully dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair
> thread. So...what musicians would YOU cite?
Earl Lewis told me that his all time favorite record is "Dream Girl"
by Jesse & Marvin.
Southside Johnny recommended "Blue Velvet" by the Clovers.
John Lennon was a huge fan of "Some Other Guy" by Richie Barrett
Linda McCartney's all time favorite record was "White Christmas" by
the Drifters.
Other favorite songs of musicians:
Theophilus London - Marvin Gaye, “Let’s Get It On”
Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips - Louis Armstrong, “What a Wonderful
World”
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The Bloomfield Buddy
Apr 30, 2013, 8:46:47 PM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 8:30 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> You're not answering the question,
And I'm not going to. Having musical talent does not give you good
taste. If I want recommendations I go to people who understand MY
taste.
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > But if I just open with my own picks, this thread will become just
> > > another "vengefully dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair
> > > thread. So...what musicians would YOU cite?
>
> > Earl Lewis told me that his all time favorite record is "Dream Girl"
> > by Jesse & Marvin.
>
> > Southside Johnny recommended "Blue Velvet" by the Clovers.
>
> > John Lennon was a huge fan of "Some Other Guy" by Richie Barrett
>
> > Linda McCartney's all time favorite record was "White Christmas" by
> > the Drifters.
>
> > Other favorite songs of musicians:
>
> > Theophilus London - Marvin Gaye, ³Let¹s Get It On²
>
> > Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips - Louis Armstrong, ³What a Wonderful
> > World²
>
>
>
>
>
> > > But if I just open with my own picks, this thread will become just
> > > another "vengefully dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair
> > > thread. So...what musicians would YOU cite?
>
> > Earl Lewis told me that his all time favorite record is "Dream Girl"
> > by Jesse & Marvin.
>
> > Southside Johnny recommended "Blue Velvet" by the Clovers.
>
> > John Lennon was a huge fan of "Some Other Guy" by Richie Barrett
>
> > Linda McCartney's all time favorite record was "White Christmas" by
> > the Drifters.
>
> > Other favorite songs of musicians:
>
> > Theophilus London - Marvin Gaye, ³Let¹s Get It On²
>
> > Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips - Louis Armstrong, ³What a Wonderful
>
> You're not answering the question,
And I'm not going to. Having musical talent does not give you good
taste. If I want recommendations I go to people who understand MY
taste.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
Apr 30, 2013, 8:55:32 PM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 8:52 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Having musical talent does not give you good taste.
>
> Which contradicts you badgering me about how I should like music that
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Having musical talent does not give you good taste.
>
> Dylan likes. Or that Wayne Coyne likes. Or that John Lennon likes. Etc.
But you believe that having musical talent DOES give you good taste,
or at least better taste than the average listener, don't you?
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The Bloomfield Buddy
Apr 30, 2013, 9:10:16 PM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 9:05 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Having musical talent does not give you good taste.
>
> > > Which contradicts you badgering me about how I should like music that
> > > Dylan likes. Or that Wayne Coyne likes. Or that John Lennon likes. Etc.
>
> Your contradiction goes unacknowledged, typically.
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Having musical talent does not give you good taste.
>
> > > Which contradicts you badgering me about how I should like music that
> > > Dylan likes. Or that Wayne Coyne likes. Or that John Lennon likes. Etc.
>
>
> > But you believe that having musical talent DOES give you good taste,
> > or at least better taste than the average listener, don't you?
>
> The point of this thread is based on the idea that one's favorite
> > But you believe that having musical talent DOES give you good taste,
> > or at least better taste than the average listener, don't you?
>
> artists are not necessarily synonymous with artists whose tastes one
> finds most valuable.
This thread will go right down the toilet just like most inane threads
that you start.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
Apr 30, 2013, 9:34:03 PM4/30/13
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> statistics.
Let's see how your thread does.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 8, 2013, 8:31:13 PM5/8/13
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On May 8, 7:58 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <savo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > At least his threads get some response, unlike your inane attempts to
> > start a thread. How's the "Who Are Your Tastemakers" thread doing?
>
>
> This "tastemakers" thread died a quick death, as wearily expected. My discussion topics are often
> "too hard" for this newsgroup.
ROFLMAO....Your discussion topics are dumb. That's why they die.
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <savo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > At least his threads get some response, unlike your inane attempts to
> > start a thread. How's the "Who Are Your Tastemakers" thread doing?
>
>
> This "tastemakers" thread died a quick death, as wearily expected. My discussion topics are often
> "too hard" for this newsgroup.
ROFLMAO....Your discussion topics are dumb. That's why they die.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 8, 2013, 8:58:13 PM5/8/13
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On May 8, 7:58 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> This "tastemakers" thread died a quick death, as wearily expected. My discussion topics are often "too hard" for this newsgroup.
If you're right, then you are insane.
>
> This "tastemakers" thread died a quick death, as wearily expected. My discussion topics are often "too hard" for this newsgroup.
The definition of insanity is when someone continues to do the same
thing and expects to somehow get a different result.
Either your threads are "inane," or you're "insane," take your pick.
marcus
May 8, 2013, 9:48:20 PM5/8/13
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On May 8, 7:58 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> This "tastemakers" thread died a quick death, as wearily expected.
Then why did you post it?
> This "tastemakers" thread died a quick death, as wearily expected.
"My discussion topics are often "too hard" for this newsgroup."
>
"I know music topics that go beyond old-school folkies are probably
D.O.A."
No ageism there, huh?
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RichL
May 9, 2013, 7:07:09 AM5/9/13
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On May 8, 11:10 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Look, here's yet another thread where Rich can pretend that I'm "gunning
> for you" rather than the reverse. Isn't reality a drag?
Why drag my name into this? I haven't commented on this thread at
all, and I've studiously avoided battles with you in this newsgroup.
> > "My discussion topics are often "too hard" for this newsgroup."
>
> > No condescension or arrogance there, eh?
>
> I'd more call it "disgust." I don't think such topics SHOULD be so
> tricky, and they wouldn't be in many other online forums.
Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
manifestation of your superiority complex. You're one of the few
people I see in newsgroups who routinely complains when his threads
aren't eagerly devoured. In this case, more than a week after the
last previous post to the thread, you're using the lack of response as
an excuse to once again cast aspersions on the entire group, despite
the fact that the only negative responses were from Trolly BB.
I simply can't see how you would expect people in this group NOT to
take comments like "as wearily expected", "too hard", "think of one
song to cite, and you're a hero. Easy ego boost", "old-school
folkies", "just not much scope here", etc., as provocative, especially
given that they are directed at the group as a whole and not just BB.
Don't flatter yourself. Your OP isn't "tricky" in the slightest. The
fact is, sometimes it's simply a matter of timing: people respond to
threads if at that particular time, the subject of the thread
resonates with them. Sometimes it doesn't. In my case, I was tempted
to respond but hesistated because my initial reaction was to list a
few "old school" musicians, which would have opened me up to
accusations of being too "old school" myself. And yes, past history
enters into this. So I took a pass.
> marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Look, here's yet another thread where Rich can pretend that I'm "gunning
> for you" rather than the reverse. Isn't reality a drag?
Why drag my name into this? I haven't commented on this thread at
all, and I've studiously avoided battles with you in this newsgroup.
> > "My discussion topics are often "too hard" for this newsgroup."
>
> > No condescension or arrogance there, eh?
>
> tricky, and they wouldn't be in many other online forums.
Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
manifestation of your superiority complex. You're one of the few
people I see in newsgroups who routinely complains when his threads
aren't eagerly devoured. In this case, more than a week after the
last previous post to the thread, you're using the lack of response as
an excuse to once again cast aspersions on the entire group, despite
the fact that the only negative responses were from Trolly BB.
I simply can't see how you would expect people in this group NOT to
take comments like "as wearily expected", "too hard", "think of one
song to cite, and you're a hero. Easy ego boost", "old-school
folkies", "just not much scope here", etc., as provocative, especially
given that they are directed at the group as a whole and not just BB.
Don't flatter yourself. Your OP isn't "tricky" in the slightest. The
fact is, sometimes it's simply a matter of timing: people respond to
threads if at that particular time, the subject of the thread
resonates with them. Sometimes it doesn't. In my case, I was tempted
to respond but hesistated because my initial reaction was to list a
few "old school" musicians, which would have opened me up to
accusations of being too "old school" myself. And yes, past history
enters into this. So I took a pass.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 9, 2013, 9:51:45 AM5/9/13
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or no response is because we all know that you are only starting the
thread to elicit responses that you can attempt to ridicule. You
remind me a little of Gregory House, but at least he had a valuable
talent that saved lives. You on the other hand are a cipher in the
world.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 9, 2013, 6:44:00 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 4:26 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
LOL.....either way you think you're "better" than the people here.
.
> I just don't get why this newsgroup is more interested in politics than
> music.
That's what happens when people care about lyrics. Many Dylan fans are
not real interested in music at all. They became Dylan fans because
they saw him as politcal commentor via some of his songs.
> I get called "inane" for thinking about ways to discover fresh
> music. Whaaatever. Personally, I'd say that's a pretty crucial issue for
> a music fan.
If by "fresh" music, you mean "new recordings" then you are dead
wrong. It's nice for someone like me to discover something from the
era I like that I didn't know yet, but after 45 years of combing that
era there's not a lot of discoveries left to be made for me.
> And I'd sure rather explore the tastes of valued musicians
> than just skim through the most popular singles from 40-60 years ago.
Not me. Having talent as a musician in no way gives one better taste
in music. Some real talented musicians that you love like music that
you would absolutely hate, including the guy that this newsgroup is
named for.
.
> And where did I say that I didn't expect those complaints to be
> provocative? The difference between me and someone like Trolly is that I
> make such comments to (hopefully) push the newsgroup to be better,
> rather than just because I get off on being irritating.
Your idea of what would make the newsgroup "better" is not shared by
anyone else in the group.
> RichL <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
> > manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
> I don't consider it an issue of a "superiority complex," because I don't
> > Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
> > manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
> think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
LOL.....either way you think you're "better" than the people here.
.
> I just don't get why this newsgroup is more interested in politics than
> music.
That's what happens when people care about lyrics. Many Dylan fans are
not real interested in music at all. They became Dylan fans because
they saw him as politcal commentor via some of his songs.
> I get called "inane" for thinking about ways to discover fresh
> music. Whaaatever. Personally, I'd say that's a pretty crucial issue for
> a music fan.
If by "fresh" music, you mean "new recordings" then you are dead
wrong. It's nice for someone like me to discover something from the
era I like that I didn't know yet, but after 45 years of combing that
era there's not a lot of discoveries left to be made for me.
> And I'd sure rather explore the tastes of valued musicians
> than just skim through the most popular singles from 40-60 years ago.
Not me. Having talent as a musician in no way gives one better taste
in music. Some real talented musicians that you love like music that
you would absolutely hate, including the guy that this newsgroup is
named for.
.
> And where did I say that I didn't expect those complaints to be
> provocative? The difference between me and someone like Trolly is that I
> make such comments to (hopefully) push the newsgroup to be better,
> rather than just because I get off on being irritating.
Your idea of what would make the newsgroup "better" is not shared by
anyone else in the group.
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gemjack
May 9, 2013, 7:22:53 PM5/9/13
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On Thu, 9 May 2013 15:44:00 -0700 (PDT), The Bloomfield Buddy
<Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>Many Dylan fans are
>not real interested in music at all. They became Dylan fans because
>they saw him as politcal commentor via some of his songs.
Actually,most of us hate his music, just too wordy. We're only
<Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>Many Dylan fans are
>not real interested in music at all. They became Dylan fans because
>they saw him as politcal commentor via some of his songs.
interested in his work onscreen.
-gj
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 9, 2013, 7:26:03 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 7:10 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> seriously.
No, I don't, but you just admitted that you do.
> > > I just don't get why this newsgroup is more interested in politics than
> > > music.
>
> > That's what happens when people care about lyrics.
>
> This is a silly claim. The connection is hardly so direct. You always
> strain to steer threads back to your same few gnawing, tunnel-visioned
> beefs.
>
> Do people who go mushy over love-song lyrics fixate on politics too?
Why would they? Go check the Barry Manilow Newsgroup and let us
know.
> > Many Dylan fans are
> > not real interested in music at all. They became Dylan fans because
> > they saw him as politcal commentor via some of his songs.
>
> I'd say this statement is 40-45 years stuck in the past.
And?
> > > I get called "inane" for thinking about ways to discover fresh
> > > music. Whaaatever. Personally, I'd say that's a pretty crucial issue for
> > > a music fan.
>
> > If by "fresh" music, you mean "new recordings" then you are dead
> > wrong. It's nice for someone like me to discover something from the
> > era I like that I didn't know yet, but after 45 years of combing that
> > era there's not a lot of discoveries left to be made for me.
>
> By "fresh," I meant music that is "new" to the listener, regardless of
> whether its recording date is new or old.
>
> I would feel very sad if I felt like I had heard all the music I could
> ever enjoy. I'd rather be a music lover than a music coroner.
You don't have to worry, because you've convinced yourself that
current music is good.
> > > And I'd sure rather explore the tastes of valued musicians
> > > than just skim through the most popular singles from 40-60 years ago.
>
> > Not me. Having talent as a musician in no way gives one better taste
> > in music.
>
> Another of these terse, unsupportable proclamations that you expect to
> be taken as law.
Can you prove me wrong?
> Also, your positions have no consistency. In the next line, you chide me
> for not liking what Dylan likes as if his tastes are important.
No, I used the fact that he likes many things that you hate to show
you that the musical taste of musicians will not help you find things
that YOU will like.
> > Some real talented musicians that you love like music that
> > you would absolutely hate, including the guy that this newsgroup is
> > named for.
>
> There is very little music that I "absolutely hate," and I doubt any of
> it would be things favored by Dylan.
Let's just say that much of what he likes would be of little interest
to you.
> > Your idea of what would make the newsgroup "better" is not shared by
> > anyone else in the group.
>
> Maybe not. Their loss. Let's Google some more songs with common title
> words. Woo.
No it's not their loss.
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
> > > > manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
> > > I don't consider it an issue of a "superiority complex," because I don't
> > > think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> > > me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
>
> > LOL.....
>
> The Derisive LOL always indicates a blowhard post not worth taking
>
> > > > Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
> > > > manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
> > > I don't consider it an issue of a "superiority complex," because I don't
> > > think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> > > me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
>
> > LOL.....
>
> seriously.
>
> > either way you think you're "better" than the people here.
>
> As if you don't.
> > either way you think you're "better" than the people here.
>
No, I don't, but you just admitted that you do.
> > > I just don't get why this newsgroup is more interested in politics than
> > > music.
>
> > That's what happens when people care about lyrics.
>
> strain to steer threads back to your same few gnawing, tunnel-visioned
> beefs.
>
> Do people who go mushy over love-song lyrics fixate on politics too?
Why would they? Go check the Barry Manilow Newsgroup and let us
know.
> > Many Dylan fans are
> > not real interested in music at all. They became Dylan fans because
> > they saw him as politcal commentor via some of his songs.
>
And?
> > > I get called "inane" for thinking about ways to discover fresh
> > > music. Whaaatever. Personally, I'd say that's a pretty crucial issue for
> > > a music fan.
>
> > If by "fresh" music, you mean "new recordings" then you are dead
> > wrong. It's nice for someone like me to discover something from the
> > era I like that I didn't know yet, but after 45 years of combing that
> > era there's not a lot of discoveries left to be made for me.
>
> whether its recording date is new or old.
>
> I would feel very sad if I felt like I had heard all the music I could
> ever enjoy. I'd rather be a music lover than a music coroner.
You don't have to worry, because you've convinced yourself that
current music is good.
> > > And I'd sure rather explore the tastes of valued musicians
> > > than just skim through the most popular singles from 40-60 years ago.
>
> > Not me. Having talent as a musician in no way gives one better taste
> > in music.
>
> be taken as law.
Can you prove me wrong?
> Also, your positions have no consistency. In the next line, you chide me
> for not liking what Dylan likes as if his tastes are important.
No, I used the fact that he likes many things that you hate to show
you that the musical taste of musicians will not help you find things
that YOU will like.
> > Some real talented musicians that you love like music that
> > you would absolutely hate, including the guy that this newsgroup is
> > named for.
>
> it would be things favored by Dylan.
Let's just say that much of what he likes would be of little interest
to you.
> > Your idea of what would make the newsgroup "better" is not shared by
> > anyone else in the group.
>
> words. Woo.
No it's not their loss.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 9, 2013, 8:25:23 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 8:02 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Do people who go mushy over love-song lyrics fixate on politics too?
>
> > Why would they?
>
> Because you claimed that interest in lyrics leads to caring about
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Do people who go mushy over love-song lyrics fixate on politics too?
>
> > Why would they?
>
> politics more than music.
No. I claimed that interest in lyrics leads to people who are not
really interested in music to liking Bob Dylan because they perceive
him as a political commentator.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 9, 2013, 8:50:14 PM5/9/13
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than their music.
marcus
May 9, 2013, 9:38:26 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 9:51 am, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
You
> remind me a little of Gregory House, but at least he had a valuable
> talent that saved lives. You on the other hand are a cipher in the
> world.
But, I liked House...
You
> remind me a little of Gregory House, but at least he had a valuable
> talent that saved lives. You on the other hand are a cipher in the
> world.
marcus
May 9, 2013, 9:40:36 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 4:26 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> two trolls. That's the least of my concerns. The bigger problem: silence.
> RichL <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
> > manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
> > Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
> > manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
> I don't consider it an issue of a "superiority complex," because I don't
> think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
You just keep on proving the point over and over and over, doncha?
> think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
>
>
> > I simply can't see how you would expect people in this group NOT to
> > take comments like "as wearily expected", "too hard", "think of one
> > song to cite, and you're a hero. Easy ego boost", "old-school
> > folkies", "just not much scope here", etc., as provocative, especially
> > given that they are directed at the group as a whole and not just BB.
>
> You seem to think I'm only bothered by the negative comments from our
>
> > I simply can't see how you would expect people in this group NOT to
> > take comments like "as wearily expected", "too hard", "think of one
> > song to cite, and you're a hero. Easy ego boost", "old-school
> > folkies", "just not much scope here", etc., as provocative, especially
> > given that they are directed at the group as a whole and not just BB.
>
> two trolls. That's the least of my concerns. The bigger problem: silence.
>
> And where did I say that I didn't expect those complaints to be
> provocative? The difference between me and someone like Trolly is that I
> make such comments to (hopefully) push the newsgroup to be better,
> rather than just because I get off on being irritating.
Volumes...speaks volumes.
> And where did I say that I didn't expect those complaints to be
> provocative? The difference between me and someone like Trolly is that I
> make such comments to (hopefully) push the newsgroup to be better,
> rather than just because I get off on being irritating.
marcus
May 9, 2013, 9:42:00 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 8:50 pm, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> Interest in lyrics leads people to like musicians for things other
> than their music.
What a horrible outcome. :-p
> Interest in lyrics leads people to like musicians for things other
> than their music.
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May 9, 2013, 9:48:49 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 9:45 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> You just keep on proving my point about how you debate with pat
> one-liners rather than content of any real substance.
>
> Still frantically dogging me, eh? Your best friend Hawkeye would be
> proud.
I see where the problem is, you don't understand that Hawkeye was a
fictional character played(and played quite well) by Alan Alda. A
fictional character can't possibly be one's best friend.
Maybe, it's time you gave up on your imaginary friend.
> marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > You just keep on proving the point over and over and over, doncha?
>
> > Volumes...speaks volumes.
> > You just keep on proving the point over and over and over, doncha?
>
>
> You just keep on proving my point about how you debate with pat
> one-liners rather than content of any real substance.
>
> Still frantically dogging me, eh? Your best friend Hawkeye would be
> proud.
I see where the problem is, you don't understand that Hawkeye was a
fictional character played(and played quite well) by Alan Alda. A
fictional character can't possibly be one's best friend.
Maybe, it's time you gave up on your imaginary friend.
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The Bloomfield Bloviator
May 9, 2013, 9:53:55 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 9:47 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> Just for laughs, I went over the 49 names on my "tastemakers" list.
>
> Interestingly, I'd estimate Dylan is the only name absolutely known for
> words more than music. Otherwise, I'd estimate that 35 of them are more
> known for music, and 13 of them are known for words and music in roughly
> equal proportion. Other music fans might partition the names
> differently, though...it's an iffy indulgence.
But you're in the Dylan newsgroup, where many of the members here are
not big music fans. They are fans of Dylan for his lyrics.
> Just for laughs, I went over the 49 names on my "tastemakers" list.
>
> Interestingly, I'd estimate Dylan is the only name absolutely known for
> words more than music. Otherwise, I'd estimate that 35 of them are more
> known for music, and 13 of them are known for words and music in roughly
> equal proportion. Other music fans might partition the names
> differently, though...it's an iffy indulgence.
But you're in the Dylan newsgroup, where many of the members here are
not big music fans. They are fans of Dylan for his lyrics.
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The Bloomfield Bloviator
May 9, 2013, 10:09:12 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 10:04 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> How do you know this?
>
> When I see RMD reviews of his shows, they usually dwell on nuances of
> musical performance.
The lyric lovers don't go to shows. They just read the lyrics and
marvel over them.
>
> When I see RMD reviews of his shows, they usually dwell on nuances of
> musical performance.
The lyric lovers don't go to shows. They just read the lyrics and
marvel over them.
Just Kidding
May 9, 2013, 10:21:37 PM5/9/13
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May 9, 2013, 10:35:55 PM5/9/13
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"poisoned rose" <pro...@poissonedrose.com> wrote in message
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> than just skim through the most popular singles from 40-60 years ago. I
> don't get the rationale where someone scorns the tastes that breed
> today's hit music yet regards popular tastes of the past as a sacred
> guidebook. People just haven't changed *that* much.
> have something to contribute.
>
> Hey, I would have dropped the subject and moved on. But BB keeps
> taunting me about this thread going nowhere. So, on it goes. And I moved
> my reply to him in the "songs about singers" thread back to this one,
> just to preserve the sanctity of that thread's heady parade of song
> titles.
First, again, you seem to not realize the degree to which negative comments
about the group -- e.g., it's about the newsgroup being "below" -- represent
a turnoff that may inhibit people from responding.
Second, I don't see that this newsgroup is "more interested in politics than
music. A quick scan of recent thread topics belies that assertion.
Third, sometimes "silence" just happens. Sometimes I'll start a thread and
get great responses, sometimes not. And comparing various times where I've
initiated posts on similar subjects, there seems to be no connection between
the subject matter and the nature of the response.
Fourth, I think it's unrealistic to expect that your "pushing" the newsgroup
to be "better" is taken by others as a positive effort. You're more
interested in music broadly than Dylan specifically; there's nothing wrong
with that, and I guess in a sense I'm the same way. But recognize that when
you say "better", what you really mean is "I wish there was more overlap
between my own interests and those of the group".
I think it's fine to try to increase that overlap, but I also think that
where you run into trouble is taking it personally when it doesn't happen.
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> RichL <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
>> manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
>
>> Disgust, condescension, arrogance -- no matter how you put it, it's a
>> manifestation of your superiority complex.
>
> I don't consider it an issue of a "superiority complex," because I don't
> think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
>
> think such threads require so much special perspective. It's not about
> me being "above average" -- it's about the newsgroup being "below."
>
> I just don't get why this newsgroup is more interested in politics than
> music. I get called "inane" for thinking about ways to discover fresh
> music. Whaaatever. Personally, I'd say that's a pretty crucial issue for
> a music fan. And I'd sure rather explore the tastes of valued musicians
> than just skim through the most popular singles from 40-60 years ago. I
> don't get the rationale where someone scorns the tastes that breed
> today's hit music yet regards popular tastes of the past as a sacred
> guidebook. People just haven't changed *that* much.
>
>> the only negative responses were from Trolly BB.
>
> Their destructive responses were a given. But I thought others might
>> the only negative responses were from Trolly BB.
>
> have something to contribute.
>
> Hey, I would have dropped the subject and moved on. But BB keeps
> taunting me about this thread going nowhere. So, on it goes. And I moved
> my reply to him in the "songs about singers" thread back to this one,
> just to preserve the sanctity of that thread's heady parade of song
> titles.
>
>> I simply can't see how you would expect people in this group NOT to
>> take comments like "as wearily expected", "too hard", "think of one
>> song to cite, and you're a hero. Easy ego boost", "old-school
>> folkies", "just not much scope here", etc., as provocative, especially
>> given that they are directed at the group as a whole and not just BB.
>
>> I simply can't see how you would expect people in this group NOT to
>> take comments like "as wearily expected", "too hard", "think of one
>> song to cite, and you're a hero. Easy ego boost", "old-school
>> folkies", "just not much scope here", etc., as provocative, especially
>> given that they are directed at the group as a whole and not just BB.
>
> You seem to think I'm only bothered by the negative comments from our
> two trolls. That's the least of my concerns. The bigger problem: silence.
>
> And where did I say that I didn't expect those complaints to be
> provocative? The difference between me and someone like Trolly is that I
> make such comments to (hopefully) push the newsgroup to be better,
> rather than just because I get off on being irritating.
Just a couple of comments:
> two trolls. That's the least of my concerns. The bigger problem: silence.
>
> And where did I say that I didn't expect those complaints to be
> provocative? The difference between me and someone like Trolly is that I
> make such comments to (hopefully) push the newsgroup to be better,
> rather than just because I get off on being irritating.
First, again, you seem to not realize the degree to which negative comments
about the group -- e.g., it's about the newsgroup being "below" -- represent
a turnoff that may inhibit people from responding.
Second, I don't see that this newsgroup is "more interested in politics than
music. A quick scan of recent thread topics belies that assertion.
Third, sometimes "silence" just happens. Sometimes I'll start a thread and
get great responses, sometimes not. And comparing various times where I've
initiated posts on similar subjects, there seems to be no connection between
the subject matter and the nature of the response.
Fourth, I think it's unrealistic to expect that your "pushing" the newsgroup
to be "better" is taken by others as a positive effort. You're more
interested in music broadly than Dylan specifically; there's nothing wrong
with that, and I guess in a sense I'm the same way. But recognize that when
you say "better", what you really mean is "I wish there was more overlap
between my own interests and those of the group".
I think it's fine to try to increase that overlap, but I also think that
where you run into trouble is taking it personally when it doesn't happen.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
May 9, 2013, 10:37:00 PM5/9/13
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On May 9, 10:21 pm, Just Kidding <JustKidd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2013 17:50:14 -0700 (PDT), The Bloomfield Buddy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2013 17:50:14 -0700 (PDT), The Bloomfield Buddy
>
>
>
>
>
> <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On May 9, 8:25 pm, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On May 9, 8:02 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Do people who go mushy over love-song lyrics fixate on politics too?
>
> >> > > Why would they?
>
> >> > Because you claimed that interest in lyrics leads to caring about
> >> > politics more than music.
>
> >> No. I claimed that interest in lyrics leads to people who are not
> >> really interested in music to liking Bob Dylan because they perceive
> >> him as a political commentator.
>
> >Interest in lyrics leads people to like musicians for things other
> >than their music.
>
> So what's your position on scatting?
I don't particularly like it, but I do love the early Mills Brothers
> >On May 9, 8:25 pm, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On May 9, 8:02 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Do people who go mushy over love-song lyrics fixate on politics too?
>
> >> > > Why would they?
>
> >> > Because you claimed that interest in lyrics leads to caring about
> >> > politics more than music.
>
> >> No. I claimed that interest in lyrics leads to people who are not
> >> really interested in music to liking Bob Dylan because they perceive
> >> him as a political commentator.
>
> >Interest in lyrics leads people to like musicians for things other
> >than their music.
>
> So what's your position on scatting?
records where they imitate instruments with their voices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPSyv8R3wzk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGUcOF8tYPs
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May 9, 2013, 11:20:23 PM5/9/13
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On 10-May-13 11:53 AM, poisoned rose wrote:
> ignored for being "inane" or for being potentially hostile.
>
> Incidentally, on the subject of "negativity," is there any doubt in your
> mind that if I had opened the thread with my own "tastemakers" picks,
> the thread would have become nothing but RR and BB tag-trolling me? Even
> though I would have presented those names as nothing more important than
> my own subjective, slanted choices?
> personal bickering. But in other periods, it has been loaded with long
> political threads.
>
> Personally, I feel like this newsgroup kinda jumped the shark for me
> when I finally saw "Renaldo & Clara," posted lengthy comments and drew
> next to no reply. I doubt that I'll work that hard on a post again.
> self-indulgently demanding...it's not like I'm peeved that there isn't
> talk about one favored band. I also don't think it's so ridiculous to
> crave general music talk that goes beyond lists of songs with common
> title words.
(not that eriK will see this since he couldn't stand the heat &
kill-filed me during one of his rants in the 60's group)
You pompous ass. Did you really think people were going to line up to
jump on your bandwagon by playing "show me yours first, then I'll show
you mine" and ending that 1st post in this thread with, "But if I just
open with my own picks, this thread will become just another "vengefully
dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair thread. So...what
musicians would YOU cite?"
You didn't get the sympathy vote you'd expected with that comment, did
you? Isn't it about time for you to head out for the night & take your
mother to her bingo game?
> "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> First, again, you seem to not realize the degree to which negative comments
>> about the group -- e.g., it's about the newsgroup being "below" -- represent
>> a turnoff that may inhibit people from responding.
>
> I think folks need to make up their minds whether this thread was
>
>> First, again, you seem to not realize the degree to which negative comments
>> about the group -- e.g., it's about the newsgroup being "below" -- represent
>> a turnoff that may inhibit people from responding.
>
> ignored for being "inane" or for being potentially hostile.
>
> Incidentally, on the subject of "negativity," is there any doubt in your
> mind that if I had opened the thread with my own "tastemakers" picks,
> the thread would have become nothing but RR and BB tag-trolling me? Even
> though I would have presented those names as nothing more important than
> my own subjective, slanted choices?
>
>> Second, I don't see that this newsgroup is "more interested in politics than
>> music. A quick scan of recent thread topics belies that assertion.
>
> Yes, it's a music-heavy newsgroup right now, once you take out the
>> Second, I don't see that this newsgroup is "more interested in politics than
>> music. A quick scan of recent thread topics belies that assertion.
>
> personal bickering. But in other periods, it has been loaded with long
> political threads.
>
> Personally, I feel like this newsgroup kinda jumped the shark for me
> when I finally saw "Renaldo & Clara," posted lengthy comments and drew
> next to no reply. I doubt that I'll work that hard on a post again.
>
>> But recognize that when
>> you say "better", what you really mean is "I wish there was more overlap
>> between my own interests and those of the group".
>
> I don't think wanting discussions about a broader range of music is so
>> But recognize that when
>> you say "better", what you really mean is "I wish there was more overlap
>> between my own interests and those of the group".
>
> self-indulgently demanding...it's not like I'm peeved that there isn't
> talk about one favored band. I also don't think it's so ridiculous to
> crave general music talk that goes beyond lists of songs with common
> title words.
(not that eriK will see this since he couldn't stand the heat &
kill-filed me during one of his rants in the 60's group)
You pompous ass. Did you really think people were going to line up to
jump on your bandwagon by playing "show me yours first, then I'll show
you mine" and ending that 1st post in this thread with, "But if I just
open with my own picks, this thread will become just another "vengefully
dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair thread. So...what
musicians would YOU cite?"
You didn't get the sympathy vote you'd expected with that comment, did
you? Isn't it about time for you to head out for the night & take your
mother to her bingo game?
RichL
May 10, 2013, 12:11:51 AM5/10/13
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"poisoned rose" <pro...@poissonedrose.com> wrote in message
news:prose99-A5ABC7...@news.eternal-september.org...
> "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> First, again, you seem to not realize the degree to which negative
>> comments
>> about the group -- e.g., it's about the newsgroup being "below" --
>> represent
>> a turnoff that may inhibit people from responding.
>
>
>> First, again, you seem to not realize the degree to which negative
>> comments
>> about the group -- e.g., it's about the newsgroup being "below" --
>> represent
>> a turnoff that may inhibit people from responding.
>
> I think folks need to make up their minds whether this thread was
> ignored for being "inane" or for being potentially hostile.
I don't think anyone outside of certain trolls thought it was inane. Being
> ignored for being "inane" or for being potentially hostile.
potentially hostile is a possible factor, given history which (as you and I
both admit) colors our perceptions.
>
> Incidentally, on the subject of "negativity," is there any doubt in your
> mind that if I had opened the thread with my own "tastemakers" picks,
> the thread would have become nothing but RR and BB tag-trolling me? Even
> though I would have presented those names as nothing more important than
> my own subjective, slanted choices?
Well it wound up that way anyways. I don't think it matters *how* you
> Incidentally, on the subject of "negativity," is there any doubt in your
> mind that if I had opened the thread with my own "tastemakers" picks,
> the thread would have become nothing but RR and BB tag-trolling me? Even
> though I would have presented those names as nothing more important than
> my own subjective, slanted choices?
approached it; my only point is that it's a hit-or-miss proposition as to
whether a given subject resonates at a given time.
>
>> Second, I don't see that this newsgroup is "more interested in politics
>> than
>> music. A quick scan of recent thread topics belies that assertion.
>
>> Second, I don't see that this newsgroup is "more interested in politics
>> than
>> music. A quick scan of recent thread topics belies that assertion.
>
> Yes, it's a music-heavy newsgroup right now, once you take out the
> personal bickering. But in other periods, it has been loaded with long
> political threads.
>
> Personally, I feel like this newsgroup kinda jumped the shark for me
> when I finally saw "Renaldo & Clara," posted lengthy comments and drew
> next to no reply. I doubt that I'll work that hard on a post again.
Again, I think you're taking lack of response too seriously. If you had
> personal bickering. But in other periods, it has been loaded with long
> political threads.
>
> Personally, I feel like this newsgroup kinda jumped the shark for me
> when I finally saw "Renaldo & Clara," posted lengthy comments and drew
> next to no reply. I doubt that I'll work that hard on a post again.
posted it at a different time, it may have turned out differently. I've
never seen the film, so I couldn't comment intelligently.
>
>> But recognize that when
>> you say "better", what you really mean is "I wish there was more overlap
>> between my own interests and those of the group".
>
>> But recognize that when
>> you say "better", what you really mean is "I wish there was more overlap
>> between my own interests and those of the group".
>
> I don't think wanting discussions about a broader range of music is so
> self-indulgently demanding...it's not like I'm peeved that there isn't
> talk about one favored band. I also don't think it's so ridiculous to
> crave general music talk that goes beyond lists of songs with common
> title words.
No, I don't think it's demanding or ridiculous. Sometimes it works,
> self-indulgently demanding...it's not like I'm peeved that there isn't
> talk about one favored band. I also don't think it's so ridiculous to
> crave general music talk that goes beyond lists of songs with common
> title words.
sometimes it doesn't. All I'm saying is (a) don't take it personally when
it doesn't and (b) appreciate the psychology in play: if you push it too
hard, people will react, perhaps in a way that you consider irrational.
By the way, I thought about the original topic a little more, and a couple
of names came to mind that are more recent than my usual "classic"
influences: Dave Grohl and Tom Morello. Morello, because he has a colorful
lineage and history and a wide variety of musical experiences, and I'd like
to know more about where his music comes from. Grohl, because he comes
across as a garden-variety common slob, yet there's so much creativity
apparent in his work that belies the first impression I get of him, and I'd
like to know more about where that comes from.
The Bloomfield Bloviator
May 10, 2013, 12:13:28 AM5/10/13
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> > You pompous ass. Did you really think people were going to line up to
> jump on your bandwagon by playing "show me yours first, then I'll show
> you mine" and ending that 1st post in this thread with, "But if I just
> open with my own picks, this thread will become just another "vengefully
> dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair thread. So...what
> musicians would YOU cite?"
>
> You didn't get the sympathy vote you'd expected with that comment, did
> you? Isn't it about time for you to head out for the night & take your
> mother to her bingo game?
How about Norman?
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BobbyM
May 10, 2013, 12:48:22 AM5/10/13
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On 10-May-13 1:35 PM, poisoned rose wrote:
> leaves me with a devastating wound wouldn't be able to figure out that
> he wasn't killfiled for being formidable (<snort>) but just because he's
> hopelessly shrill and infantile. The quoted post was just the same-old.
> Cathy Guisewite sweat drops flying everywhere.
>
> What a big silly. As a lurker in the '60s-pop newsgroup, I used to
> wonder why he'd obsessively shriek "SFB" at that Uni troll over and over
> when most others just wearily ignored that nonsense. After he fastened
> onto me (even using the same grade-school nickname tactics), I realized
> the pattern went far beyond that one case.
>
> "eriK"
What eriK doesn't tell you is that he started it by calling me juvenile
(words to that effect) for posting under the name Bobby (which is my
given name) because he thought that would rattle & his ego wouldn't
allow him to lose another of his many battles.
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <sav...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> (not that eriK will see this since he couldn't stand the heat &
>>> kill-filed me during one of his rants in the 60's group)
>>
>> I'll make sure he sees it.
>
> I suppose it's predictable that someone who thinks calling me "eriK"
>
>>> (not that eriK will see this since he couldn't stand the heat &
>>> kill-filed me during one of his rants in the 60's group)
>>
>> I'll make sure he sees it.
>
> leaves me with a devastating wound wouldn't be able to figure out that
> he wasn't killfiled for being formidable (<snort>) but just because he's
> hopelessly shrill and infantile. The quoted post was just the same-old.
> Cathy Guisewite sweat drops flying everywhere.
>
> What a big silly. As a lurker in the '60s-pop newsgroup, I used to
> wonder why he'd obsessively shriek "SFB" at that Uni troll over and over
> when most others just wearily ignored that nonsense. After he fastened
> onto me (even using the same grade-school nickname tactics), I realized
> the pattern went far beyond that one case.
>
> "eriK"
What eriK doesn't tell you is that he started it by calling me juvenile
(words to that effect) for posting under the name Bobby (which is my
given name) because he thought that would rattle & his ego wouldn't
allow him to lose another of his many battles.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 10, 2013, 12:55:11 AM5/10/13
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Interesting that he calls other people juvenile yet he makes fun of
somebody's name.
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May 10, 2013, 1:14:49 AM5/10/13
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On May 10, 1:11 am, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > What eriK doesn't tell you is that he started it by calling me juvenile
> > > (words to that effect) for posting under the name Bobby (which is my
> > > given name) because he thought that would rattle & his ego wouldn't
> > > allow him to lose another of his many battles.
>
> > > (words to that effect) for posting under the name Bobby (which is my
> > > given name) because he thought that would rattle & his ego wouldn't
> > > allow him to lose another of his many battles.
>
> > Interesting that he calls other people juvenile yet he makes fun of
> > somebody's name.
>
> Because it embodies his childishness. And if his parents really put
> > somebody's name.
>
> "Bobby" on his birth certificate, boy, did they doom him.
Yeah, it really doomed Bobby Darin, Bobby Jones and Bobby Kennedy.
> Did he really say "he started it"? Phew. What a ninny.
What kind of twat uses the word "ninny?"
Just Kidding
May 10, 2013, 8:35:09 AM5/10/13
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 10, 2013, 8:58:19 AM5/10/13
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Rather than interesting, let's call it ironic.
Just Kidding
May 10, 2013, 2:09:53 PM5/10/13
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M. Rick
May 10, 2013, 5:08:49 PM5/10/13
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What does music taste like? Tuna? There’s no great need for
tastemakers in music because you can “taste” the music directly on
YouTube, RadioDisney, XM, Amazon etc. If I want restaurant reviews I
suppose I’d go to Yelp.
tastemakers in music because you can “taste” the music directly on
YouTube, RadioDisney, XM, Amazon etc. If I want restaurant reviews I
suppose I’d go to Yelp.
M. Rick
May 10, 2013, 5:16:41 PM5/10/13
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> Personally, I feel like this newsgroup kinda jumped the shark for me when I finally saw "Renaldo & Clara," posted lengthy comments and drew
next to no reply. I doubt that I'll work that hard on a post again.
"Renaldo and Clara" is when Dylan jumped the shark for a second time.
next to no reply. I doubt that I'll work that hard on a post again.
A few years later he drove his Plymouth Belvedere into a lake.
RichL
May 10, 2013, 5:18:40 PM5/10/13
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"poisoned rose" <pro...@poissonedrose.com> wrote in message
news:prose99-D03463...@news.eternal-september.org...
> "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > Incidentally, on the subject of "negativity," is there any doubt in
>> > your
>> > mind that if I had opened the thread with my own "tastemakers" picks,
>> > the thread would have become nothing but RR and BB tag-trolling me?
>> > Even
>> > though I would have presented those names as nothing more important
>> > than
>> > my own subjective, slanted choices?
>>
>> Well it wound up that way anyways.
>
> INDEED.
>
>> > Incidentally, on the subject of "negativity," is there any doubt in
>> > your
>> > mind that if I had opened the thread with my own "tastemakers" picks,
>> > the thread would have become nothing but RR and BB tag-trolling me?
>> > Even
>> > though I would have presented those names as nothing more important
>> > than
>> > my own subjective, slanted choices?
>>
>> Well it wound up that way anyways.
>
>
>> By the way, I thought about the original topic a little more, and a
>> couple
>> of names came to mind that are more recent than my usual "classic"
>> influences: Dave Grohl and Tom Morello. Morello, because he has a
>> colorful
>> lineage and history and a wide variety of musical experiences, and I'd
>> like
>> to know more about where his music comes from. Grohl, because he comes
>> across as a garden-variety common slob, yet there's so much creativity
>> apparent in his work that belies the first impression I get of him, and
>> I'd
>> like to know more about where that comes from.
>
> Okey dokey. I find Grohl's music pretty formulaic myself, but that's
>> By the way, I thought about the original topic a little more, and a
>> couple
>> of names came to mind that are more recent than my usual "classic"
>> influences: Dave Grohl and Tom Morello. Morello, because he has a
>> colorful
>> lineage and history and a wide variety of musical experiences, and I'd
>> like
>> to know more about where his music comes from. Grohl, because he comes
>> across as a garden-variety common slob, yet there's so much creativity
>> apparent in his work that belies the first impression I get of him, and
>> I'd
>> like to know more about where that comes from.
>
> life.
>
> My impression is that his personal favorites involve a lot of '80s East
> Coast hardcore. Bad Brains, Dischord Records, and that sort of thing.
I think the thing that separates Grohl from many of his contemporaries is
the "hook". He's really good at finding just the right musical and lyrical
phrases for hooks in his songs. It's harder to do well than it appears.
Anyway, that's my take.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 10, 2013, 7:29:21 PM5/10/13
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On May 10, 7:19 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> Claudine Longet --> Margo Guryan
Fag.
> Claudine Longet --> Margo Guryan
Fag.
gemjack
May 10, 2013, 8:02:33 PM5/10/13
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 17:18:40 -0400, "RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I think the thing that separates Grohl from many of his contemporaries is
>the "hook". He's really good at finding just the right musical and lyrical
>phrases for hooks in his songs. It's harder to do well than it appears.
>Anyway, that's my take.
I agree with that. I thought 'wheels' was excellent in that way.
-gj
wrote:
>I think the thing that separates Grohl from many of his contemporaries is
>the "hook". He's really good at finding just the right musical and lyrical
>phrases for hooks in his songs. It's harder to do well than it appears.
>Anyway, that's my take.
-gj
CatfishJohn
May 11, 2013, 10:01:20 PM5/11/13
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On 5/1/2013 6:47 AM, poisoned rose wrote:
> An exchange in another thread made me muse about which musicians whose
> own tastes/recommendations would most interest me. Whose advice I would
> seek for music tips, either old or new.
>
> I gave it some thought and narrowed down a set of 49 names...both
> individuals and bands. Most are still contemporary, but a few are past
> names whom I imagine asking back in their heyday.
>
> If I asked those sources for 50 "overlooked" names apiece, shuffled all
> of them together minus duplicates and removed the names whom I've
> already assessed, I'm sure that would be an amazing shopping list to
> explore.
behind on my writin any of my newsgroup reads as I didn't have much
internet time while I was on an extended vacation down in Huntsville.
Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
Roky Erickson
Terry Allen
Russell Smith
Charlie Sexton
Stephen Stills
Michael Nesmith
Don Henley
David Baerwald
Robbie Robertson
Bob Stinson
Sal Valentino
Jeff Beck
Adrian Belew
Alex Chilton
Marc Bolan
James Brown
Clarence Carter
Doug Sahm
Augie Meyers
Bobby Charles
Dale Hawkins
Fats Domino
Jerry Jeff Walker
Adam Duritz
Jakob Dylan
John Fogerty
Robert Smith
Delbert McClinton
Jim Dickinson
Mark Knopfler
Don Dixon
Shel Silverstein
Joe Ely
Alejandro Escovedo
Lowell George
P.F. Sloan
Levi Stubbs
Kinky Friedman
Shirley Manson
John Prine
Ian Hunter
Jack Ingram
Joe Jackson
Elmore James
Garland Jeffreys
Alvin Lee
Freedy Johnston
Jonathan Richman
John Stewart
Arthur Lee
Phil Lynott
Bugs Henderson
Ric Oacasek
Bob Hite
Bo Diddley
Dwight Yoakam
Gosh, I went over 50 so I better quit - I hope thats ok.
> An exchange in another thread made me muse about which musicians whose
> own tastes/recommendations would most interest me. Whose advice I would
> seek for music tips, either old or new.
>
> I gave it some thought and narrowed down a set of 49 names...both
> individuals and bands. Most are still contemporary, but a few are past
> names whom I imagine asking back in their heyday.
>
> If I asked those sources for 50 "overlooked" names apiece, shuffled all
> of them together minus duplicates and removed the names whom I've
> already assessed, I'm sure that would be an amazing shopping list to
> explore.
>
> But if I just open with my own picks, this thread will become just
> another "vengefully dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair
> thread. So...what musicians would YOU cite?
>
Mr. Rose, quite an interesting topic you started here. Im a little
> But if I just open with my own picks, this thread will become just
> another "vengefully dogpile on PR, regardless of content" ego-repair
> thread. So...what musicians would YOU cite?
>
behind on my writin any of my newsgroup reads as I didn't have much
internet time while I was on an extended vacation down in Huntsville.
Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
Roky Erickson
Terry Allen
Russell Smith
Charlie Sexton
Stephen Stills
Michael Nesmith
Don Henley
David Baerwald
Robbie Robertson
Bob Stinson
Sal Valentino
Jeff Beck
Adrian Belew
Alex Chilton
Marc Bolan
James Brown
Clarence Carter
Doug Sahm
Augie Meyers
Bobby Charles
Dale Hawkins
Fats Domino
Jerry Jeff Walker
Adam Duritz
Jakob Dylan
John Fogerty
Robert Smith
Delbert McClinton
Jim Dickinson
Mark Knopfler
Don Dixon
Shel Silverstein
Joe Ely
Alejandro Escovedo
Lowell George
P.F. Sloan
Levi Stubbs
Kinky Friedman
Shirley Manson
John Prine
Ian Hunter
Jack Ingram
Joe Jackson
Elmore James
Garland Jeffreys
Alvin Lee
Freedy Johnston
Jonathan Richman
John Stewart
Arthur Lee
Phil Lynott
Bugs Henderson
Ric Oacasek
Bob Hite
Bo Diddley
Dwight Yoakam
Gosh, I went over 50 so I better quit - I hope thats ok.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 11, 2013, 10:38:47 PM5/11/13
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On May 11, 10:01 pm, CatfishJohn <bluec...@noodlingwithouta.net>
wrote:
> Levi Stubbs
> Elmore James
> Bo Diddley
> Dwight Yoakam
I'm afraid these guys didn't make PR's list, and I doubt he could even
name a song by Clarence Carter or Bobby Charles.
wrote:
>
> Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
>
> Clarence Carter
> Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
>
> Bobby Charles
> Dale Hawkins
> Fats Domino
> Delbert McClinton
> Dale Hawkins
> Fats Domino
> Levi Stubbs
> Elmore James
> Bo Diddley
> Dwight Yoakam
I'm afraid these guys didn't make PR's list, and I doubt he could even
name a song by Clarence Carter or Bobby Charles.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 11, 2013, 11:28:52 PM5/11/13
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> Bob Hite
I missed this at first. I don't think that PR would ne much
interested in all of the rare pre-war blues 78s that Bob had in his
collection.
I missed this at first. I don't think that PR would ne much
interested in all of the rare pre-war blues 78s that Bob had in his
collection.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 12, 2013, 12:18:32 AM5/12/13
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Here's my list:
Frank Sinatra
Usher
Carl Dobkins Jr.
Kenny Dino
Yvonne Elliman
Oscar Toney Jr.
Ulysses Hicks
Pete Best
Otis Redding
Ian Gomm
Stevie Nicks
Oscar Peterson
Ned Miller
Elvis Presley
Dave Clark
Rick Nelson
Oliver Sain
Sonny Bono
Eddie Grant
Frank Sinatra
Usher
Carl Dobkins Jr.
Kenny Dino
Yvonne Elliman
Oscar Toney Jr.
Ulysses Hicks
Pete Best
Otis Redding
Ian Gomm
Stevie Nicks
Oscar Peterson
Ned Miller
Elvis Presley
Dave Clark
Rick Nelson
Oliver Sain
Sonny Bono
Eddie Grant
Karen Sherwood
May 12, 2013, 7:56:35 AM5/12/13
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On May 11, 12:19 am, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm trying to think of acts I discovered via other acts' endorsements.
> Hm.
>
> There's a fuzzy line between "bands endorsed by another artists" vs.
> "spinoff bands," "collaborations," "bands with commonly discerned
> influences" and "bands on another act's boutique label" but....
>
> I think I probably found Judee Sill through XTC's Andy Partridge. That's
> a relatively recent development.
>
> I liked "Something in the Air" as a stand-alone single (probably first
> heard it via The Magic Christian film), but I bought the Thunderclap
> Newman album because of the Pete Townshend connection.
>
> The first Two Mortal Coil album (with its well-chosen cover tunes) had a
> lot to do with me discovering Big Star and Tim Buckley.
>
> Back in the '80s, R.E.M. was so influential -- the members turned on
> loads of R.E.M. fans to various overlooked bands. The Athens boys had
> something to do with me discovering Pylon, the Feelies, Hugo Largo,
> Chickasaw Mudd Puppies, Guadalcanal Diary, Hetch Hetchy, Wire, the dB's,
> Robyn Hitchcock, Let's Active, Vic Chesnutt, Television, the Golden
> Palominos and, oh yeah, the Velvet Underground....
>
> The Beatles influenced me discovering the Bonzo Dog Band, though it was
> really more of a Monty Python thing. Plus, there was Badfinger and Mary
> Hopkin.
>
> Otherwise...
>
> Brian Eno --> Jon Hassell, Michael Brook, Penguin Cafe Orchestra, Cluster
> Kurt Cobain --> The Vaselines, The Raincoats
> Beastie Boys --> Luscious Jackson, Bis
> Zappa --> Wild Man Fischer, the GTO's
> The Residents --> Snakefinger, Tuxedomoon
> Sonic Youth --> Dinosaur Jr., Glenn Branca, probably Hole
> John Lennon --> Yoko Ono
> Redd Kross --> Shonen Knife
> The Beach Boys --> Van Dyke Parks
> Bowie --> Iggy Pop, probably Mott the Hoople
> Peter Holsapple (dB's) --> Pianosaurus
> Robert Fripp --> The Roches
> Stereolab --> Serge Gainsbourg
> David Byrne --> Tom Ze
> The Pogues --> Kirsty MacColl
> David Gilmour and/or Peter Gabriel --> Kate Bush
> Ken Stringfellow (Posies) --> The Long Winters
> Tom Waits --> Marc Ribot
> Records
>
> The hierarchies of the Flying Nun and Elephant 6 scenes are hopeless to
> unravel.
>
> That's all I can come up with right now. I'm not sure if I can say
> "Dylan --> The Band" or not.
Well,now I understand what your initial question was about a little
more. 'Endorsements', mmm. It's hard to remember, that's all. I don't
keep track of this kind of stuff like you seem to.
Bob's obviously a big one: > Woody Guthrie, Jimmie Rodgers, Robert
Johnson, Blind Willie McTell, Carter Family, and so on and so on and
so on.
Actually I got to the Band first, before I ever heard any Bob, from a
friend's suggestion, and that led to Jimi Hendrix, Neil Young & Lynyrd
Skynyrd (!)
From Jimi Hendrix I think the line leads to Miles Davis, Bill Evans,
Sun Ra.
And then from Sun Ra it goes in all sorts of directions. Just
impossible to track. *That's* more why I personally 'ignored' the
thread.
The Brother Bloomfield's suggestion that Dylan fans only or mostly
like music for lyrical content is as usual over-generalized. I like
Dylan for the lyrics obviously but ... Miles Davis?
>
>
> I'm trying to think of acts I discovered via other acts' endorsements.
> Hm.
>
> There's a fuzzy line between "bands endorsed by another artists" vs.
> "spinoff bands," "collaborations," "bands with commonly discerned
> influences" and "bands on another act's boutique label" but....
>
> I think I probably found Judee Sill through XTC's Andy Partridge. That's
> a relatively recent development.
>
> I liked "Something in the Air" as a stand-alone single (probably first
> heard it via The Magic Christian film), but I bought the Thunderclap
> Newman album because of the Pete Townshend connection.
>
> The first Two Mortal Coil album (with its well-chosen cover tunes) had a
> lot to do with me discovering Big Star and Tim Buckley.
>
> Back in the '80s, R.E.M. was so influential -- the members turned on
> loads of R.E.M. fans to various overlooked bands. The Athens boys had
> something to do with me discovering Pylon, the Feelies, Hugo Largo,
> Chickasaw Mudd Puppies, Guadalcanal Diary, Hetch Hetchy, Wire, the dB's,
> Robyn Hitchcock, Let's Active, Vic Chesnutt, Television, the Golden
> Palominos and, oh yeah, the Velvet Underground....
>
> The Beatles influenced me discovering the Bonzo Dog Band, though it was
> really more of a Monty Python thing. Plus, there was Badfinger and Mary
> Hopkin.
>
> Otherwise...
>
> Brian Eno --> Jon Hassell, Michael Brook, Penguin Cafe Orchestra, Cluster
> Kurt Cobain --> The Vaselines, The Raincoats
> Beastie Boys --> Luscious Jackson, Bis
> Zappa --> Wild Man Fischer, the GTO's
> The Residents --> Snakefinger, Tuxedomoon
> Sonic Youth --> Dinosaur Jr., Glenn Branca, probably Hole
> John Lennon --> Yoko Ono
> Redd Kross --> Shonen Knife
> The Beach Boys --> Van Dyke Parks
> Bowie --> Iggy Pop, probably Mott the Hoople
> Peter Holsapple (dB's) --> Pianosaurus
> Robert Fripp --> The Roches
> Stereolab --> Serge Gainsbourg
> David Byrne --> Tom Ze
> The Pogues --> Kirsty MacColl
> David Gilmour and/or Peter Gabriel --> Kate Bush
> Ken Stringfellow (Posies) --> The Long Winters
> Tom Waits --> Marc Ribot
> Claudine Longet --> Margo Guryan
> Superchunk members --> well, just about everything I like on Merge
> Records
>
> The hierarchies of the Flying Nun and Elephant 6 scenes are hopeless to
> unravel.
>
> That's all I can come up with right now. I'm not sure if I can say
> "Dylan --> The Band" or not.
Well,now I understand what your initial question was about a little
more. 'Endorsements', mmm. It's hard to remember, that's all. I don't
keep track of this kind of stuff like you seem to.
Bob's obviously a big one: > Woody Guthrie, Jimmie Rodgers, Robert
Johnson, Blind Willie McTell, Carter Family, and so on and so on and
so on.
Actually I got to the Band first, before I ever heard any Bob, from a
friend's suggestion, and that led to Jimi Hendrix, Neil Young & Lynyrd
Skynyrd (!)
From Jimi Hendrix I think the line leads to Miles Davis, Bill Evans,
Sun Ra.
And then from Sun Ra it goes in all sorts of directions. Just
impossible to track. *That's* more why I personally 'ignored' the
thread.
The Brother Bloomfield's suggestion that Dylan fans only or mostly
like music for lyrical content is as usual over-generalized. I like
Dylan for the lyrics obviously but ... Miles Davis?
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 12, 2013, 9:30:25 AM5/12/13
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Look at the list a little closer.
F rank Sinatra
U sher
C arl Dobkins Jr.
K enny Dino
Y vonne Elliman
O scar Toney Jr.
U lysses Hicks
P ete Best
O tis Redding
I an Gomm
S tevie Nicks
O scar Peterson
N ed Miller
E lvis Presley
D ave Clark
R ick Nelson
O liver Sain
S onny Bono
E ddie Grant
F rank Sinatra
U sher
C arl Dobkins Jr.
K enny Dino
Y vonne Elliman
O scar Toney Jr.
U lysses Hicks
P ete Best
O tis Redding
I an Gomm
S tevie Nicks
O scar Peterson
N ed Miller
E lvis Presley
D ave Clark
R ick Nelson
O liver Sain
S onny Bono
E ddie Grant
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 12, 2013, 6:16:54 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 5:43 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> Now, this list was very interesting. At least five names that I know
> next to nothing about. Thanks!
If you want names that you know nothing about I could give you
hundreds.
By the way, schmuck, you do realize that this CatfishJohn guy must
have been in state prison, right?
"I was on an extended vacation down in Huntsville."
https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/jjt01
> Now, this list was very interesting. At least five names that I know
> next to nothing about. Thanks!
If you want names that you know nothing about I could give you
hundreds.
By the way, schmuck, you do realize that this CatfishJohn guy must
have been in state prison, right?
"I was on an extended vacation down in Huntsville."
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 12, 2013, 6:59:39 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 6:40 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Yet another "My wee-wee is bigger" post from you.
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > > Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
>
> > > Now, this list was very interesting. At least five names that I know
> > > next to nothing about. Thanks!
>
> > If you want names that you know nothing about I could give you
> > hundreds.
>
> Just as I could give hundreds to you.
> > > > Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
>
> > > Now, this list was very interesting. At least five names that I know
> > > next to nothing about. Thanks!
>
> > If you want names that you know nothing about I could give you
> > hundreds.
>
>
> Different people have different musical focuses. That's kinda how things
> work. You should get over the delusion that your own focus is the
> universal standard.
My own focus is not even close to the universal standard.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 12, 2013, 7:57:20 PM5/12/13
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> like.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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M. Rick
May 12, 2013, 8:15:27 PM5/12/13
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> Bob's obviously a big one: > Woody Guthrie, Jimmie Rodgers, Robert Johnson, Blind Willie McTell, Carter Family, and so on and so on and so on.
Please endorse all checks to Bob Dylan.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 12, 2013, 8:24:34 PM5/12/13
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Should I give CatfishJohn your address?
RichL
May 12, 2013, 11:04:51 PM5/12/13
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"The Bloomfield Buddy" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4c35215f-33e0-4824...@w15g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
Interesting selection, from a guy who claimed elsewhere: "We prefer black
music, harmony, rhythm,
etc.....and have no interest in lyrics."
news:4c35215f-33e0-4824...@w15g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
music, harmony, rhythm,
etc.....and have no interest in lyrics."
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 12, 2013, 11:08:56 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 11:04 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:4c35215f-33e0-4824...@w15g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
ROFLMAO...I se you answered the post before you read the rest of the
thread.
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:4c35215f-33e0-4824...@w15g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
thread.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 12:59:49 AM5/13/13
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On May 13, 12:00 am, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> The "first letter" bit was kinda cute, despite the typically cretinous
> message
Tony Bennett
Hank Williams
Andy Williams
Napoleon XIV
Kenny Nolan
Yellowman
Ozzie Osbourne
Uncle Dave Macon
>
> The "first letter" bit was kinda cute, despite the typically cretinous
> message
Tony Bennett
Hank Williams
Andy Williams
Napoleon XIV
Kenny Nolan
Yellowman
Ozzie Osbourne
Uncle Dave Macon
CatfishJohn
May 13, 2013, 4:11:29 AM5/13/13
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On 5/13/2013 6:43 AM, poisoned rose wrote:
sometimes
>> Roky Erickson
>
> I like his stuff, but I gotta wonder how well-versed he is in others'
> music.
Im guessing he knows his way around depending on how many brain cells
hes got left. He's done songs by Dylan, Bo Diddley, Van Morrison, Don
Covay & Chuck Berry so he knows somethin besides them drug and demon
songs. I know where he got the demons ideas from, I want to know about
them drugs
>
>> Bob Stinson
>
> All right! I recently saw the "Color Me Impressed" doc, and more than
> one person commented on what a notorious Yes lover Stinson was.
> Surprising.
>
>> Sal Valentino
>
> I developed a fresh love for the Beau Brummels a few years ago...I had
> never investigated their deep catalog until recent times.
>
>> Marc Bolan
>
> I don't know much about his explicitly stated influences...I'd be
> curious to hear what folk sounds fed the early Tyrannosaurus Rex stuff.
>
>> Robert Smith
>
> Is the Cure guy, or someone else? This name seems out of place with your
> other picks.
One of my buds had a picture of him where he looks just like that movie
dude with pruning shears for hands. That killin a a-rab song is just as
heavy as it was 30 years ago. Why do you think a brit loon shouldnt be
on my list?
>
>> Jim Dickinson
>
> I don't know a lot about his background, but he sure came off like an
> intriguing character in the Big Star documentary I recently saw.
>
>> Freedy Johnston
>
> Interesting pick.
>
Heres some more:
Shelby Lynne
Sam Samudio
Pete Shelley
Joe Simon
Jay Farrar
Moon Martin
Shane MacGowan
Wayne Kramer
David Allan Coe
Willie DeVille
Piano Red (Dr. Feelgood)
Todd Rundgren
Sky Saxon
Willie Nile
Graham Parker
Dan Penn
David Thomas
> Now, this list was very interesting. At least five names that I know
> next to nothing about. Thanks!
>
> Um, I'm guessing that you live in Texas? :)
> next to nothing about. Thanks!
>
sometimes
>> Roky Erickson
>
> I like his stuff, but I gotta wonder how well-versed he is in others'
> music.
Im guessing he knows his way around depending on how many brain cells
hes got left. He's done songs by Dylan, Bo Diddley, Van Morrison, Don
Covay & Chuck Berry so he knows somethin besides them drug and demon
songs. I know where he got the demons ideas from, I want to know about
them drugs
>
>> Bob Stinson
>
> All right! I recently saw the "Color Me Impressed" doc, and more than
> one person commented on what a notorious Yes lover Stinson was.
> Surprising.
>
>> Sal Valentino
>
> I developed a fresh love for the Beau Brummels a few years ago...I had
> never investigated their deep catalog until recent times.
>
>> Marc Bolan
>
> I don't know much about his explicitly stated influences...I'd be
> curious to hear what folk sounds fed the early Tyrannosaurus Rex stuff.
>
>> Robert Smith
>
> Is the Cure guy, or someone else? This name seems out of place with your
> other picks.
One of my buds had a picture of him where he looks just like that movie
dude with pruning shears for hands. That killin a a-rab song is just as
heavy as it was 30 years ago. Why do you think a brit loon shouldnt be
on my list?
>
>> Jim Dickinson
>
> I don't know a lot about his background, but he sure came off like an
> intriguing character in the Big Star documentary I recently saw.
>
>> Freedy Johnston
>
> Interesting pick.
>
Heres some more:
Shelby Lynne
Sam Samudio
Pete Shelley
Joe Simon
Jay Farrar
Moon Martin
Shane MacGowan
Wayne Kramer
David Allan Coe
Willie DeVille
Piano Red (Dr. Feelgood)
Todd Rundgren
Sky Saxon
Willie Nile
Graham Parker
Dan Penn
David Thomas
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 8:00:58 AM5/13/13
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On May 13, 4:11 am, CatfishJohn <bluec...@noodlingwithouta.net> wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 6:43 AM, poisoned rose wrote:
>
> On 5/13/2013 6:43 AM, poisoned rose wrote:
>
> > CatfishJohn <bluec...@noodlingwithouta.net> wrote:
>
> >> Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
>
> > Now, this list was very interesting. At least five names that I know
> > next to nothing about. Thanks!
>
> > Um, I'm guessing that you live in Texas? :)
>
> sometimes
Speaking of living in Texas, CJ, were you a guest of the state for a
>
> >> Here's my list; lookin to readin yours.
>
> > Now, this list was very interesting. At least five names that I know
> > next to nothing about. Thanks!
>
> > Um, I'm guessing that you live in Texas? :)
>
> sometimes
stretch?
BobbyM
May 13, 2013, 9:30:36 AM5/13/13
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record). Yeah, I've been a guest in Texas but I aint never been in a
stretch; I like pickup trucks myself.
CatfishJohn
May 13, 2013, 9:40:16 AM5/13/13
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parts I'm gonna kick his ass if he thinks he can get away with posting
shit like that & pretendin its from me. I come in here to talk about
music and musicians, not about my personal life. I have you know I dont
own no pickup.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 9:41:55 AM5/13/13
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............Bugs Henderson
Ric..... Oacasek
............Bob Hite
............Bo Diddley
Dwight Yoakam
RichL
May 13, 2013, 7:33:13 PM5/13/13
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worth all that effort to make yourself look like an idiot -- twice?
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 8:00:46 PM5/13/13
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artists was phony.
> Was it worth all that effort to make yourself look like an idiot -- twice?
from now on. As long as YOU (a huge idiot) think it makes me look like
an idiot, I'll know I;m on the right track.
BobbyM
May 13, 2013, 8:38:57 PM5/13/13
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above. I think Catfish John is eriK just trying to get some action in
this thread he started and everyone ignored.
The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 8:58:35 PM5/13/13
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RichL
May 13, 2013, 9:02:54 PM5/13/13
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"The Bloomfield Buddy" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:eeaf467a-9418-4a1b...@m2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> from now on. As long as YOU (a huge idiot) think it makes me look like
> an idiot, I'll know I;m on the right track.
If you had at least half the IQ you claim for yourself, you could have sent
> an idiot, I'll know I;m on the right track.
PR your silly little subliminal message AND have had your list consist of
people you actually like. THAT would have been clever. Oh, well.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 13, 2013, 9:24:28 PM5/13/13
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On May 13, 9:02 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:eeaf467a-9418-4a1b...@m2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
The only one on the list who I don't "actually like" is Usher. The U
is a hard one.
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:eeaf467a-9418-4a1b...@m2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
is a hard one.
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The Bloomfield Buddy
May 14, 2013, 12:07:49 AM5/14/13
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On May 13, 9:29 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
Compared to WHATEVER THE FUCK THAT IS I love Usher.
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > The only one on the list who I don't "actually like" is Usher. The U
> > is a hard one.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XJUtH0A-QQ
>
> > The only one on the list who I don't "actually like" is Usher. The U
> > is a hard one.
>
Compared to WHATEVER THE FUCK THAT IS I love Usher.
BobbyM
May 14, 2013, 12:27:56 AM5/14/13
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called a con artist by The Amazing Randi.
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