Last Waltz ramble and question
Jumbo
astounding. In fact, in places whole new sounds seem to have been
added. (But maybe that's what remastering is? I dunno. I don't trust
Robbie not to add stuff... Sounds great, if he did, so why carp?)
But ... my question is ... at 4 discs, was it over-extended? I thought
I was in the 'more the merrier' camp before I bought it, but those
jams and rehearsal tracks seem flabby.
Lately, I've been enjoying the Neil Young / Joni Mitchell section.
It's not the best part by any means, but it's got a mellow mid-show
vibe I like, despite (or maybe because of) Mitchell's prosy lyrics.
Just chewing the breeze here...
Gemini Jackson
I've been wanting to buy the longer version since it came out but just
kinda keep forgetting. I am concerned that after buying it I may end
up just fast forwarding through the new parts. I would pay to see
Neil's nose before the coke was removed though. That sounds
hilarious!
And concerning Joni: I saw her open for Bob (in 98?) and it took A
WHILE to be able to listen to her again. It just kinda went on and on
and on and...
-GJ
CurrentOccupant_dudley
If it's available, get the vinyl; that wd preclude fast forwarding.
Neil's nose indeed!
And concerning Joni: yes, she did lose me as a buyer about the time
she moved into the "jazzier" freer-verse stuff, but never lost my
respect as an artist. I never pitched water balloons at her.
Lately i purchased that Starbucks thing; on the basis of that the
mid-90s "Taming the Tiger", both of which i dig alright.
I may have been a late bloomer not ready at first to mature from hyper-
adolescence, or come to love her late, or just finally realised there
ain't nobody out there like her, nor will there be.
Just shootin' the fat ;--}>
dudley
crazytimes
Coincidentally, just heard 'Harry's House Centerpiece' on the radio
yesterday... Hadn't ever heard it, just Blue and C&S... Was
impressed that it sounded like it could have been recorded
yesterday...
Zuke
I always thought "Coyote" was the best thing on that album. And
there were a lot of great things.
Jumbo
Yeah, Coyote's great. But the two extra Joni tracks on the LW box
aren't quite so good, as songs, imo. Self-conscious lyrics copied
under-drafted from a notebook trying to pass for clever. But ... as
others have said in this thread, the *way* she speaks and sings them,
is like no-one else
CurrentOccupant_dudley
coke.
& she split
AnyBody?
dudley
khematite
http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1317
Interview with Reader's Digest (must say that I certainly don't recall
stuff like this when I used to read my grandmother's copy back in the
1950s):
RD: Did you ever have problems with drugs or addiction?
Mitchell: I did, briefly. I didn't get involved for years, and then I
went on [Bob Dylan's] Rolling Thunder [tour] and they asked me how I
wanted to be paid, and [it was like] I ran away to join the circus:
Clowns used to get paid in wine - pay me in cocaine because everybody
was strung out on cocaine. It was [Tibetan Buddhist spiritual master]
Chögyam Trungpa who snapped me out of it just before Easter in 1976.
He asked me, "Do you believe in God?" I said, "Yes, here's my god and
here is my prayer," and I took out the cocaine and took a hit in front
of him. So I was very, very rude in the presence of a spiritual
master.
AndoDoug
> I always thought "Coyote" was the best thing on that album. And
> there were a lot of great things.
that version of Coyote is a freakin star turn, totally virtuoso
performance of a stunningly accomplished lyric. Nothing she couldn't
do.
AndoDoug
> was strung out on cocaine. It was [Tibetan Buddhist spiritual master]
> Chögyam Trungpa who snapped me out of it just before Easter in 1976.
> He asked me, "Do you believe in God?" I said, "Yes, here's my god and
> here is my prayer," and I took out the cocaine and took a hit in front
> of him. So I was very, very rude in the presence of a spiritual
> master.
Wow!
But what happened then is even more intriguing:
Mitchell: His nostrils began to flare like bellows, and he [began] a
rhythmic breathing. I remember thinking, What's with his nose? It was
almost hypnotic. They have a technique called emanating grace ways. I
assume he went into a breathing technique and a meditation. I left his
office and for three days I was in [an] awakened state. The technique
completely silenced that thing, the loud, little noisy radio station
that stands between you and the great mind.
RD: And when you came out of that awakened state…?
Mitchell: The thing that brought me out of the state was my first "I"
thought. For three days I had no sense of self, no self-consciousness;
my mind was back in Eden, the mind before the Fall. It was simple-
minded, blessedly simple-minded. And then the "I" came back, and the
first thought I had was, Oh, my god. He enlightened me. Boom. Back to
normal - or what we call normal but they call insanity.
RD: It was his breathing technique and he managed to pass it on to
you. And when you came out of your three days, you were no longer
[using] cocaine?
Mitchell: Yes. Ten years later when I learned he was dying, I went
back to thank him.
Anyone think this was all fantasy? Or can we agree the mind has these
kinds of capacities for benefiting others.
I met a friend of spirit
He drank and womanized
And I sat before his sanity
I was holding back from crying
He saw my complications
And he mirrored me back simplified
And we laughed how our perfection
Would always be denied
"Heart and humor and humility"
He said "Will lighten up your heavy load"
I left him for the refuge of the roads --Joni on Trungpa
Jumbo
And what I really like, as a band fan, is how well they work around
her performance, supporting it, not detracting, adding, though the
chords must be very weird for them, as you can see on the film, I
think.
AndoDoug
> > performance of a stunningly accomplished lyric. Nothing she couldn't
> > do.
>
> And what I really like, as a band fan, is how well they work around
> her performance, supporting it, not detracting, adding, though the
> chords must be very weird for them, as you can see on the film, I
> think.
Indeed, but apparently it's obvious if you watch Danko that he's
miming the bass part, and someone standing offstage is supplying his
part
Bobby McGee
> I always thought "Coyote" was the best thing on that album. And
> there were a lot of great things.
TOTALLY agree. I love that tune and that version.
Jumbo
Never heard that before. I can't believe it! I'll watch out for it
next time.