Current stuff I like

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC6hMZLd91Y

[Dr_dudley]

On May 14, 1:11 am, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC6hMZLd91Y

is this the guy does Firebug? cause i'm *so* tired of hearing it.

not to mention it's whiteboy guitarbased rockabilly derivative.

besides it's a year old.

more current, after a hiatus the Mavericks have returned with new, if
tejano derivative, product.

the official VEVO:
The Mavericks - Back In Your Arms Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypJ3dP7qCpE

a more intimate venue live:
The Mavericks - "Back In Your Arms Again" (Live at WFUV)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCQwMBnor84

can't help but appreciate Raul's vocalese.

that's about it really

[really real]

On 5/13/2013 10:11 PM, The Bloomfield Buddy wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC6hMZLd91Y
>


I'm a big fan of JD McPherson. His neo-rockabilly has a real r&b feel to
it. Must be the piano.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

The sax too. Most rockabilly does not have a sax. The song he does
(Country Boy) is originaly by Big Tiny Kennedy, who is hardly white.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzV_Vpnrd5g

Besides, I have no problem with white music. I have a problem with
people who ONLY are interested in white music.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 4:01 am, Dr_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
> On May 14, 1:11 am, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC6hMZLd91Y
>
> is this the guy does Firebug? cause i'm *so* tired of hearing it.
>
> not to mention it's whiteboy guitarbased rockabilly derivative.

No, there's sax and piano and an acoustic bass.

[wereoawl]

"Dr_dudley" <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote in message
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On May 14, 1:11 am, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC6hMZLd91Y

is this the guy does Firebug? cause i'm *so* tired of hearing it.

I kinda like Fire Fly.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 6:09 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:

> The Bloomfield Buddy, grand poobah of musical taste, wrote:
>
> > Besides, I have no problem with white music. I have a problem with
> > people who ONLY are interested in white music.
>

> I doubt you know anyone who falls into this category.

Loads of people. You're pretty close yourself. 98% of what you like is
white.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 6:09 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy, grand poobah of musical taste, wrote:
>

> > Besides, I have no problem with white music. I have a problem with
> > people who ONLY are interested in white music.
>

> I doubt you know anyone who falls into this category. And that linked
> music is about as "current" as fins on a Chevy. ;p

Anything from this decade is current.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 7:51 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:

> One Issue <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > Besides, I have no problem with white music. I have a problem with
> > > > people who ONLY are interested in white music.
>
> > > I doubt you know anyone who falls into this category.
>
> > Loads of people. You're pretty close yourself. 98% of what you like is
> > white.
>

> You have a problem with people only interested in white music.

>
> I doubt you know anyone who falls into this category.
>

> Incidentally, just because I may not buy music by this or that black
> artist doesn't mean I'm not interested in him.

Really.

Are you intersted in any of these acts....

Joe Simon
Joe Tex
Solomon Burke
Millie Jackson
The Dells
The Detroit Emeralds
Linda Jones
Luther Ingram
The Honey Cone
Little Johnny Taylor

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 8:30 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> > Really.
>
> > Are you intersted in any of these acts....
>
> > Joe Simon
> > Joe Tex
> > Solomon Burke
> > Millie Jackson
> > The Dells
> > The Detroit Emeralds
> > Linda Jones
> > Luther Ingram
> > The Honey Cone
> > Little Johnny Taylor
>

> I'd sample their songs...sure, why not?


Being :interested" in an act, to me, means that you've already checked
out their music.

The fact that you would "sample their songs" does not make you
"interested" in any of these acts.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 9:02 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:

> > So often, it seems you just like/dislike an artist based on whether his
> > genre fits into your terrorist campaign about the "correct" kinds of
> > music to enjoy. Who makes music in this vein but does it badly?
>
> Telling that you dodged this point/question.

What vein are you referring to?

I've heard lots of newer bands doing older style songs badly. I
couldn't come up with their names though. When a record is bad I'm not
all that interested in who it's by.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 9:56 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> > I've heard lots of newer bands doing older style songs badly.
>

> And what about older bands doing older style songs badly?

Here's some of the hundreds of 50s R&B acts that I don't like very
much.

Melvin Smith
Don & Dewey
Rudy Ferguson
Freddy Cole
Kid King's Combo
Johnny Wright
Big Bertha
Gladys Patrick
Earl Curry
Pauline Rogers
Tab Smith
Lynn Hope
Zilla Mays
Joe Fritz
Jimmy Binkley
Earl Forest
Eugene Fox
Sonny Parker
Carl Mathews
Charles Edwins
Dave Dixon
Kenzie Moore
Mel Williams
Dennis Binder

[Willie]

> Besides, I have no problem with white music. I have a problem with
> people who ONLY are interested in white music.

Then I hope you have a problem with this fellow (Mitt Romney). Here's his reported iPad playlist when he was on the campaign trail:

I am a Man of Constant Sorrow -- The Soggy Bottom Boys
Read My Mind -- The Killers
December, 1963 (Oh What a Night) -- Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons
Ring of Fire -- Johnny Cash
Somebody Told Me -- The Killers
The MTA (The Boston Subway Song) -- The Kingston Trio
Good Vibrations -- The Beach Boys
Desperado (Live) -- Clint Black
Crying -- Roy Orbison
Only You (Long Version) -- Commodores
Runaway -- Del Shannon
It's Your Love -- Tim McGraw
As Good as I Once Was -- Toby Keith
Born Free -- Kid Rock
Over The Rainbow -- Willie Nelson
Stardust -- Nat King Cole
In Dreams -- Roy Orbison
Somebody Like You -- Keith Urban
All-American Girl -- Kerry Underwood

And he wonders why he didn't do so well with black folks and Latinos. Well, make I judge too harshly--he does have Nat King Cole in there.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 14, 11:02 pm, Willie <williamgwilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Besides, I have no problem with white music. I have a problem with
> > people who ONLY are interested in white music.
>
> Then I hope you have a problem with this fellow (Mitt Romney).

My problems with him are over a lot more than his musical taste. He's
nothing more than a carnival barking con man.

[Dr_dudley]

i kinda like the lone bellow. i'm not sure how au courant they are,
and also their backstory is probably of greater interest.

The Lone Bellow: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyf5NqiMNE

o i kinda like these guys too. sometimes when i hear their commercial
releases i think i'm hearing Emmylou + Rodney Crowell:
The Civil Wars: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamYmjllE6A

& then this, as contemporary as it gits:
Dick Justice - Cocaine (1929)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRMB9x6kGM

[RichL]

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Finally, something we can agree on.

[really real]

>
>
>
> Some prominent "white rockers" I flat don't like, even though their
>
> style seems to be within the realm of music I might enjoy: AC/DC,
>
> Aerosmith, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Free, Eagles, Little Feat, Meat Loaf, Rod
>
> Stewart, Faces, Rush, Steve Miller Band, Elton John, KISS, Eric Clapton
>
> (solo), Allman Brothers, Steely Dan, Carole King, Tom Petty, Deep
>
> Purple, Van Halen, Warren Zevon, ZZ Top, Bad Company, Iron Maiden,
>
> Grateful Dead, Black Sabbath, Journey, Chicago, Blue Oyster Cult, 10cc,
>
> Bob Seger, Metallica, Boston, Judas Priest, John Mellencamp, Jackson
>
> Browne, Bon Jovi, Steppenwolf, Def Leppard, Dire Straits, Mot�rhead,
>
> Janis Joplin, Jeff Beck, Black Flag, Blondie, Coldplay, Dead Kennedys,
>
> Tommy James, Nick Lowe, Depeche Mode, Rage Against the Machine, Duran
>
> Duran, Echo & the Bunnymen, Green Day, Guns N' Roses, Go-Go's, Jane's
>
> Addiction, Sublime, Stranglers, INXS, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Sting, Black
>
> Crowes, Alice in Chains, Joe Jackson, Joy Division, New Order, Bauhaus,
>
> Joan Jett, Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Siouxsie & the Banshees,
>
> Slayer, B-52's, the Cult, the Cure, Smiths, Stone Roses, White Stripes,
>
> Violent Femmes and U2. This doesn't speak too well for me being one of
>
> "white rock"'s major torchbearers.




Anyone who is a fan of Bob Dylan's lyrics should like Nick Lowe. I guess the kind of Dylan fan who doesn't like early Elvis Costello might miss Nick Lowe if they have a problem with "cleverness," but I think you have to be religious to have this problem.


Not liking the Faces and early Rod Stewart shows real musical blindness. Or deafness, I suppose.

There is a Janis backlash going on, but that's no reason not to like her best work.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 15, 6:02 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > And what about older bands doing older style songs badly?
>
> > Here's some of the hundreds of 50s R&B acts that I don't like very
> > much.
>

> "I don't like them very much" is a really weak, pussyfooted criticism.
> Especially coming from someone who's so fond of smearing music as
> "putrid," "dogshit," etc.
>
> You probably like individual songs by all of these acts anyway.

No, there's not one song by any of these acts that I would rate as a 6
(good) or higher.

> > Melvin Smith
> > Don & Dewey
> > Rudy Ferguson
> > Freddy Cole
> > Kid King's Combo
> > Johnny Wright
> > Big Bertha
> > Gladys Patrick
> > Earl Curry
> > Pauline Rogers
> > Tab Smith
> > Lynn Hope
> > Zilla Mays
> > Joe Fritz
> > Jimmy Binkley
> > Earl Forest
> > Eugene Fox
> > Sonny Parker
> > Carl Mathews
> > Charles Edwins
> > Dave Dixon
> > Kenzie Moore
> > Mel Williams
> > Dennis Binder
>

> I'm also curious about your reasons. Is it purely based on "ingredients"
> such as what instruments are included (I know you don't like string
> arrangements)

I don't like violins, but there are no violins on any of the records
by these acts.

> or whether the act is true to the ideal R&B sound, or are
> there some respectable acts that have the right style where you just
> don't much like their songs or some indefinable quirk of the singer's
> voice?

I can't be bothered trying to explain this with words.

> It seems to me like you judge a lot of music "on principle" by sheer
> factual details, such as year of release, race, instruments included,
> whether it was popular, apparent genre, etc.

Not one of those details has ANY bearing on whether or not I like a
record.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 15, 6:02 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
: AC/DC,

> Aerosmith, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Free, Eagles, Meat Loaf, Rod
> Stewart, Faces, Steve Miller Band, Elton John, KISS, Eric Clapton

> (solo), Allman Brothers, Steely Dan, Carole King, Tom Petty, Deep

> Purple, Van Halen, Warren Zevon, ZZ Top, Bad Company, ,

> Grateful Dead, Black Sabbath, Journey, Chicago, Blue Oyster Cult, 10cc,

> Bob Seger, Boston, John Mellencamp, Jackson
> Browne, Steppenwolf, Dire Straits, Janis Joplin, Blondie, Dead Kennedys,
> Tommy James, Nick Lowe, Depeche Mode, Duran
> Duran, Go-Go's, INXS, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Black
> Crowes, Joe Jackson, New Order,
> Joan Jett, B-52's, U2.

Every act that I left up there has at least one song that I think is
very good or better, and some of them have several.

[icn...@gmail.com]

It's suprising that you don't like at least *some* of the music by the bands that you posted Poisoned Rose... Steve Miller, Steely Dan, Janis Joplin, Blondie, The Eagles made some great music... paticularly Steely Dan... and early Chicago is really good... It's too bad many people think of Chicago these days only as purveyors of those bland 80's ballads... early Chicago was fairly adventurous...

[BobbyM]

I have a hunch that he doesn't really like music at all; it's just
something that he can write about and an excuse to hang around younger
people sith a a similar lifestyle, single & living at home with a
parent. Ever notice how he likes to post lists of "these are the
records I dumped out of my collection recently"? Now, he might actually
like Claudine Longet's music. PR's Longet shrine (although it's a bit
dusty) can be found here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~elbroome/longet/

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 15, 11:43 pm, BobbyM <masseybNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16-May-13 12:23 PM, icn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > It's suprising that you don't like at least *some* of the music by
> > the bands that you posted Poisoned Rose... Steve Miller, Steely Dan,
> > Janis Joplin, Blondie, The Eagles made some great music...
> > paticularly Steely Dan... and early Chicago is really good... It's
> > too bad many people think of Chicago these days only as purveyors of
> > those bland 80's ballads... early Chicago was fairly adventurous...
>
> I have a hunch that he doesn't really like music at all; it's just
> something that he can write about and an excuse to hang around younger

> people with a a similar lifestyle, single & living at home with a
> parent.

I concur. It's just gonna get worse as he gets older and the ages of
the people he tries to hang around with stay the same. He'll be like
69 years old trying to interview some 18 year old person in a band
eventually.

[really real]

>
> Oh, Trolly, Trolly, Trolly. Whew, you even managed to squeeze in an
>
> awkward religious troll here. Such embarrassing desperation.



Even Jesus would not forgive your lack of taste in music and the absurd lists you post in here.

[M. Rick]

> Even Jesus would not forgive your lack of taste in music and the absurd lists you post in here.

When you pile all the names on top of eachother they begin to resemble
the corpses in Auschwitz.

[icn...@gmail.com]

You have a good point there, Poisoned Rose... the late great rock critic Paul Williams said that the music that we like or love often goes beyond the music itself, he said that part of it has to do with self image... We, in part, love musicians that boost or support our images of who we are and who we'd like to be...

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 18, 5:26 am, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > or whether the act is true to the ideal R&B sound, or are
> > > there some respectable acts that have the right style where you just
> > > don't much like their songs or some indefinable quirk of the singer's
> > > voice?
>
> > I can't be bothered trying to explain this with words.
>

> Naturally. Just recite some more numbers that fall between 1 and 10, and
> that will be fine.

>
> > > It seems to me like you judge a lot of music "on principle" by sheer
> > > factual details, such as year of release, race, instruments included,
> > > whether it was popular, apparent genre, etc.
>
> > Not one of those details has ANY bearing on whether or not I like a
> > record.
>

> Ridiculous disingenuousness and/or lack of self-awareness.

Year of release - 1956 is my favorite year for music, but there are
also some of the worst records ever made that come from that year.
Things like "Garden Of Eden" by Joe Valino, and a whole host of shitty
pop covers of R&B and rock and roll.

Race - I can't stand records by Leslie Uggams, Herb Jefferies, Mel
Carter, Clint Holmes, and scores of other black acts.

Instruments included - This could have some bearing on me hating a
record, although why shouldn't it? It directly effects the sound of
the record. Are you saying that you are just as likely to like
something by a symphony orchestra as you are by a standard two guitar-
bass-drums,and maybe keyboard allignment?

wheteher it was popular - This one is absurd. My most hated records of
all time were really popular hits in the early 1950s, like "Be My
Love" by Mario Lanza and "Rose, Rose I Love You" by Frankie Laine, not
to mention all the really popular hits from the past 25-30 years that
I absolutely abhore.

apparent genre is a good indicator. I certainly like 1950s R&B much
more than I like death metal, or alternative, or be-bop. Are you
saying that you don't like certain genres better than other genres?
Are you more likely to like a punk band, or a black gospel quartet?

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 18, 5:28 am, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:

> Always fascinating to see which songs you separate into "very good" and
> "good." Your insights are uncanny.
>
> I suppose this is just more evidence that the most crucial difference
> between my and your tastes is not race, but your focus on populist
> values.

Yeah, "Holiday in Cambodia" is certainly huge with the masses. I hear
it all the time on the local AC station......jackass.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 18, 5:30 am, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, liking younger acts is rather unavoidable if you're
> someone who likes music based on "what's coming out of the speakers"
> rather than some more dubious factors.

Absolutely the opposite. Unless you think there are a lot of young
acts who sound similar to music done 50 and 60 years ago. The few I;ve
haerd, I like, like the group I mentioned in the "Current music I
like" thread.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 18, 7:37 am, icn...@gmail.com wrote:\

>     You have a good point there, Poisoned Rose... the late great rock critic Paul Williams said that the music that we like or love often goes beyond the music itself, he said that part of it has to do with self image... We, in part, love musicians that boost or support our images of who we are and who we'd like to be...

Thankfully that schmuck is dead, because there are no musicians who I
would like to be, and I could care less about their "points of view"
and what they are like as people.

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 18, 3:55 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > It seems to me like you judge a lot of music "on principle" by sheer
> > > > > factual details, such as year of release, race, instruments included,
> > > > > whether it was popular, apparent genre, etc.
>
> > > > Not one of those details has ANY bearing on whether or not I like a
> > > > record.
>
> > > Ridiculous disingenuousness and/or lack of self-awareness.
>
> > Year of release - 1956 is my favorite year for music, but there are
> > also some of the worst records ever made that come from that year.
> > Things like "Garden Of Eden" by Joe Valino, and a whole host of shitty
> > pop covers of R&B and rock and roll.
>

> And if you're presented with almost anything from the past 30 years,
> you're predisposed to scorn it and all you want to know is whether it
> sounds like music "50 or 60 years old." Furthermore, you think I should
> be rejecting music just based on the musicians being younger than me.

I've heard enough of modern music to know I'm not gonna like hardly
anything from this era.

.

> Race - I can't stand records by Leslie Uggams, Herb Jefferies, Mel
> > Carter, Clint Holmes, and scores of other black acts.
>

> And you voice musical judgments based on race on an almost daily basis.

My judgments have nothing to do with what I like. As I've said several
times already, I have a problem with people who (virtually) only like
white music,

> The rest of your reply is more of the same. You also contradicted
> yourself...first saying none of those variables has "ANY bearing" on
> your opinion and then defending the ways they DO influence your opinions.
>
> You also have this pattern of denying things by citing tiny contrary
> examples. If you accused me of liking little beyond "white" music and I
> responded with "Hey, I like Public Enemy," that wouldn't be much of a
> counterargument, would it? But this is the sort of weak reasoning you
> frequently use.
>
> Anyway, I don't think you're really getting my top point. I was talking
> about you judging music "on principle." It's like you've pledged to this
> fierce crusade about what music is good and what music is bad, and any
> fresh music you hear has to fight its way past these "laws" you've set
> up for yourself.

By "fresh music" do you mean current music, or just music that I have
not heard before? Either way, yes, I am 55 years old and have
already identified in my mind what styles of music I like, and which I
don't like. As have you. You clearly are not interested much in music
from before the 60s, and you ckearly have no interest in the type of
music that was in the thread I started about Bob's radio show. I;m
sure every song on that list would be "fresh" to you, but I don't
think you have any interest in hearing any of them, do you?

> It's like the difference between me preaching about the superiority of
> "white rock" (which I don't do) and me just endorsing a bunch of acts
> that turn out to be white rockers. With me, the music comes first. With
> you, it seems like the rule does. For you, it's a "defeat" to have an
> opinion about a piece of music that violates your overall agenda. So,
> for the sake of your cause, you contort yourself into bizarre shapes and
> do things like impossibly claim your mind doesn't hear any lyrics, slam
> modern music you've never heard, etc.

My mind "hears" lyrics, I can cite the lyrics to thousands of songs. I
just don't process what those lyrics are trying to get across, I
memorize them phonetically, the same way I would memorize the sounds
of the instruments in an instrumental like "Green Onions."

I can recite the lyrics to several songs that are sung in other
languages that I don't inderstand, like "Nel Blu Di Pinto Di Blu" by
Domenico Modugno or "Sukiyaka" by Kyo Sakamoto. I;ve NEVER claimed to
not "hear" lyrics, I just don't process them as words and think about
what they mean.

[icn...@gmail.com]

BB, I don't think Williams meant so much the personalities of the musicians, I think he was mainly referring to the music... He was referring to the idea that we often want to think of ourselves as belonging to one or more group or subculture, and we are trying to find ways to belong and identify ourselves, and music is one way of doing so...

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 18, 7:28 pm, icn...@gmail.com wrote:

>   BB, I don't think Williams meant so much the personalities of the musicians, I think he was mainly referring to the music...

He said "goes beyond the music itself."

So how could he be referring to the music?

[icn...@gmail.com]

"Beyond the music itself" in the sense that the music we like has psychological, cultural, sociolological implications... music isn't a hermetically sealed art anymore than other art forms are... He was saying that our identity is often partly based on what types of music we love...

[The Bloomfield Buddy]

On May 18, 7:55 pm, icn...@gmail.com wrote:

>    "Beyond the music itself" in the sense that the music we like has psychological, cultural, sociolological implications... music isn't a hermetically sealed art anymore than other art forms are... He was saying that our identity is often partly based on what types of music we love...

Oh, horseshit.

I grew up in an all white town and ended up preferring black music
from around the time I was born as my favorite style. Nothing cultural
or socialogical about it. I just love that sound. Even before I was
aware of 50s music I preferred current music that sounded like it
(CCR, Canned Heat, I Hear You Knocking-Dave Edmunds, Rockin' Pneumonia-
Johnny Rivers, etc...)

I went crazy over "Travelin' Band" before I ever heard of Little
Richard, who became one of my 2 or 3 favorite artists of all time when
I did discover him.

My favorite music is New Orleans R&B of the 50s.