'Holocaust' #2
Upbeat & Cheerful Martin
I watched a programme on the holocaust this morning. They were
showing the 'little red house' at Auschwitz where so many of the
murders took place -- no windows and only one door. Every so often
the programme cut to adverts. Then we were shown bright, shiny things
we could buy. There were Christmas songs and somebody told us about a
hedge trimmer that would make an ideal gift. On the screen happy
children and grown-ups smiled from a world of comfort and plenty
before we were returned to the grainy footage of women and children
being taken from trains and selected for work or perhaps deemed unfit
to work.
Good God. Look what wonders man has made.
Mr Jinx
Janice
Viktor Frankl is probably the person most qualified to explain this
contradiction.
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treadleson
Yeah, I don't now and didn't then understand what the big yip was
about this post. Happy children in a comfy world--a staple of tv
commercials--are regularly interspersed with footage of sickening acts
of inhumanity in the main program. I thought that by now the
audience's motion picture grammar was sufficiently developed to keep
the categories separated. It isn't as though this is the first
showing ever of "Holocaust" with Michael Moriarty.
Mr Jinx
This morning I watched another in this holocaust series.
After the programme the announcer (to my utter disbelief and horror)
said "And now in our next programme unsuspecting members of the
public get more than they bargained for ... in a good way".
Seriously. Whither taste and decency? To made even a glib little
reference to the holocaust to link to another progamme (a game show,
as it happens) is so sick I hardly know where to begin ...
Mr Jinx
crazytimes
How about if they had a Cadillac advert during the programme wherein
Dylan drives an Escalade 3-D style out of the TV and into someone's
living room?... That'd be something... There could even be a fast-
cars/fast-food tie-in... Bob rolls his winder down with a push of the
button: 'Anyone know the way to Wendy's'?...
gemjack
<vernon_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 19, 9:36锟絧m, treadleson <treadl...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 19, 3:57锟絧m, "Upbeat & Cheerful Martin"
>>
>>
>>
>> <martingayf...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Here's Mr J's post again. 锟絀 promise not to be flippant during it.
>>
>> > I watched a programme on the holocaust this morning. 锟絋hey were
>> > showing the 'little red house' at Auschwitz where so many of the
>> > murders took place -- no windows and only one door. 锟紼very so often
>> > the programme cut to adverts. 锟絋hen we were shown bright, shiny things
>> > we could buy. There were Christmas songs and somebody told us about a
>> > hedge trimmer that would make an ideal gift. On the screen happy
>> > children and grown-ups smiled from a world of comfort and plenty
>> > before we were returned to the grainy footage of women and children
>> > being taken from trains and selected for work or perhaps deemed unfit
>> > to work.
>>
>> > Good God. 锟絃ook what wonders man has made.
>>
>> > Mr Jinx
>>
>> Yeah, I don't now and didn't then understand what the big yip was
>> about this post. 锟紿appy children in a comfy world--a staple of tv
>> commercials--are regularly interspersed with footage of sickening acts
>> of inhumanity in the main program. 锟絀 thought that by now the
>> audience's motion picture grammar was sufficiently developed to keep
>> the categories separated. 锟絀t isn't as though this is the first
>> showing ever of "Holocaust" with Michael Moriarty.
>
>This morning I watched another in this holocaust series.
>
>After the programme the announcer (to my utter disbelief and horror)
>said "And now in our next programme unsuspecting members of the
>public get more than they bargained for ... in a good way".
>
>Seriously. Whither taste and decency? To made even a glib little
>reference to the holocaust to link to another progamme (a game show,
>as it happens) is so sick I hardly know where to begin ...
>
>Mr Jinx
Postcards of the hanging, indeed.
What I hate, is when you're watching a family film with (in my case)
your 3 and 9 year old kids and the commercials show previews for
hard-on pills, 800-sex numbers, or extremely violent movies. I think
Obama said something about this once.
-gj
SunDog
>
> After the programme the announcer (to my utter disbelief and horror)
You could stop watching television.
SunDog
TCA
"SunDog" <joelha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You could stop watching television
That's a bit like telling someone who has issues with air pollution to stop
breathing...
From what I understand... it's not actually the TV that's the problem...
it's the way that those who control it's content use it... Or, abuse it, so
to speak...
TCA
little things... We have regulatory bodies here in the UK that wouldn't
allow such things and if it were to happen, and people were to complain,
then it's highly likely that fines would be levied on the offending
stations.
But... that 1st Amendment, hey?
Janice
> stations.
>
It is our bane that liberty is often interpreted as license... the
price of freedom of speech.
The goal, I suppose, is to eventually reach the ideal -- self-
regulation. Meanwhile, we do attempt to regulate each other... we
have broached Constitutional freedoms & civil liberties with such
regulations as the motorcycle helmet law, drug prohibition, & the seat
belt law. JW might tell us these laws were enacted to protect
insurance agencies and liquor lobbies... and he might be right.
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really real
>> You could stop watching television
>
> That's a bit like telling someone who has issues with air pollution to
> stop breathing...
>
> From what I understand... it's not actually the TV that's the
> problem... it's the way that those who control it's content use it...
> Or, abuse it, so to speak...
For me, the solution is to stop watching television commercials. I avoid
any program with commercials, and if I have to watch one, I bypass the
commercials with a zero tolerance zeal. I always pretend that a tv
commercial is a real person and when I imagine someone in my living room
talking to me that way, I show them the door.
I seriously think that tv commercial watching is the number one cause of
stupidity today
TCA
"Janice" <jan...@dixoncreekstudio.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 11:33 pm, "TCA" <bootcov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The goal, I suppose, is to eventually reach the ideal -- self- regulation.
You 'NEED' to take the guns off the citizens first!
> Meanwhile, we do attempt to regulate each other...
By shooting them? ;-)
TCA
"really real" <reall...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> For me, the solution is to stop watching television commercials. I avoid
> any program with commercials, and if I have to watch one, I bypass the
> commercials with a zero tolerance zeal. I always pretend that a tv
> commercial is a real person and when I imagine someone in my living room
> talking to me that way, I show them the door.
>
> I seriously think that tv commercial watching is the number one cause of
> stupidity today
Thankfully, we don't have commercials every few minutes here and those we do
have need to follow strict guidelines. But I do agree - less is best in this
case! Saying that - my TV is hardly ever on! I watch a few programmes on
the BBC (which is commercial free) via their website - usually on the laptop
in bed - but apart from that, TV is pretty much obsolete in this home.
Janice
> > Meanwhile, we do attempt to regulate each other...
>
> By shooting them? ;-)
Yes. Well. You'll get no argument from me.
Gun totin' is part of the American psyche it seems... from Davy
Crockett to Daniel Boone to Al Capone to the Marlboro Man. We're wild
& woolly, dontcha know.
Interestingly enough (and perhaps encouraging) besides the Wild West
our other iconic identity is music... a better "persuader" by far (as
I see it).
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frinjdwelr
"poisoned rose" <pros...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> really real <reall...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> I seriously think that tv commercial watching is the number one cause of
>> stupidity today
>
> "Dancing with the Stars."
;)