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Matt Reading

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Jan 31, 2001, 10:03:28 AM1/31/01
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Hi there,
As a poor student in desperate search of some extra cash, I am selling Dylan
bootleg CDr's. This is mainly targeted at newbies and/or people who don't
have access to a cd burner for trading, and who don't want to spend
extortionate amounts of money on 'commercial' bootlegs. My list is not huge
but includes many essentail titles, covering all periods of Dylan's career.
My prices are *very* reasonable..I'm not doing this for any great profit,
just for a bit extra for the odd CD/beer (!).

So, if anyone out there is interested in my offer, then please email me
privately and I will send you my list. As well as approximately 80 bootlegs
and field recordings to choose from, I also have high quality windows
media-format videos that I can burn onto Cd-rom. As I said in the subject,
I'm limited to the UK only. Thanks..

Matt


ramblin man

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Jan 31, 2001, 2:01:36 PM1/31/01
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Listen dickhead,

Take your typically arrogant student shite somewhere else. do not sell cdr's
here. I would advise anyone against buying cdr off this fool or anyone else.
Targeted at `Newbies`?? discs are given away FREE to newbies in here, so
piss off back to the university bar and sip a coke.
This guy also tries selling in the bootleg newsgroup, dont fall for it. I
really would stay away from buying cheap cdr's. If you want to buy bob
boot's, hunt for the original glass masters. If you want cdr copies, ask for
trades, there will always be someone to help out `newbies` and people who
havent got access to `burners`. Also, keep an eye out for the good folk who
give out free discs.
It's just my opinion but i hate twats like this guy. Just read his sad
opening sentence.

RM
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Alice Hager

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Jan 31, 2001, 4:33:18 PM1/31/01
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In article <980967668.9679.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
"ramblin man" <m...@sunspot.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> It's just my opinion but i hate twats like this guy. Just read his sad
> opening sentence.

Very well said. He does give twats a bad name.

Alice


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Annie White

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Jan 31, 2001, 5:51:01 PM1/31/01
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Ok - I really don't want to get into this conversation - BUT - having
bought some CDRs from Matt Reading I just feel morally obliged to say
that I feel that I got a very good deal - it's not like he charges much
more than to cover the cost of the CDR and I didn't have anything to
trade at that time - & because he originally missed copying disc 2 of
Knight of the Hurricane not only did he send me the missing disc but
also the Cynthia Gooding Folksingers Choice radio show as compensation.

When were either of you two last a student in the UK? I'm way past
anything but being an extremely mature student - but my step-daughter
who graduated last year and worked all her spare time and holidays still
came out of it with huge debts thanks to the UK government's decision to
stop student grants and introduce a system of loans instead.

I think that the ethos of trading and sharing and not making anything
out of it is all well and fine but I also really don't have any problem
with people subsidising student loans with a bit of enterprise - I could
go spend nearly 30 quid on the Never Ending Japanese import from amazon
- and probably will - but how does that compare for value with Knight of
the Hurricane, the Complete Supper Club, Portsmouth 2000, (which if I
recall correctly Matt had uploaded for anyone to have for free in any
case) Anaheim late and a Wembley concert + Cynthia Goading for less than
20 quid!!

Here endeth my rant!!

Annie


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Brandon Zwagerman

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Jan 31, 2001, 6:35:39 PM1/31/01
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> came out of it with huge debts thanks to the UK government's decision to
> stop student grants and introduce a system of loans instead.
>

You Brits used to get grants? Man I'd kill for some of that stuff... Hey, we
Americans have been stuck with loans forever, and it does indeed suck, get
used to it. You'd think somehow they could tax Bill Gates 1% and give
everyone a free college education... sheesh

NP: Billy Bragg- Talking With the Taxman About Poetry, "Train, Train"

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"All is well, I've left the cold Midwestern towns behind" -Gordon Lightfoot

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ramblin man

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Jan 31, 2001, 7:05:27 PM1/31/01
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If you had asked someone Annie, you might have got those shows for free.
Students are greedy, self obsessed,
sely pitying bores.


RM


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Trevor Gibb

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Jan 31, 2001, 7:36:44 PM1/31/01
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I cant believe that matt reading would want to make money from Dylan
unreleased performances, I mean its treacherous. nothing wrong in trading,
but if people are profiting from copied versions of performances Dylan
didn't even authorise, its just wrong. I mean I trade but I'd never want to
profit from it.

Matt Your a disgrace to and UK Dylan fan

I hope no one buys them from you.

Repent and piss off

Who agrees

Rev Gibb

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Brandon Zwagerman

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Jan 31, 2001, 7:43:11 PM1/31/01
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"Trevor Gibb" <ggne...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I cant believe that matt reading would want to make money from Dylan
> unreleased performances, I mean its treacherous. nothing wrong in trading,
> but if people are profiting from copied versions of performances Dylan
> didn't even authorise, its just wrong. I mean I trade but I'd never want
to
> profit from it.
>
> Matt Your a disgrace to and UK Dylan fan
>
> I hope no one buys them from you.
>
> Repent and piss off
>
> Who agrees
>

I agree. But it is just as bad as all of you who purchase "official"
bootlegs, and I know there are a ton of you out there.

NP: Pacifica Network News

Matt Reading

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Jan 31, 2001, 8:33:31 PM1/31/01
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Hmmm...ouch, that smarts. Okay guys, I see your points about, well,
everything really. I think some of the personal abuse is a bit much, and
it's rather lowered my opinion of lots of people in this ng (but hey, I
guess a lot of people think the same about me, right?).

Firstly, for what it matters, I have only ever done this for *very* little
profit...as Annie said, it barely covers the cost of the CDrs themselves
(thanks for putting a good word in, Annie...). One thing I would like to
point out, as a reason that I have done this in the past, is that I like
spreading this unreleased Dylan material around (and don't say, "oh yes as
long as you can make a quick buck"). Over the past year or so I have posted
mp3 websites, and posted various things on binary newsgroups, and I loved
how people new to this crazy world reacted..their gratitude for my time and
effort (as money was not a factor) in posting these things was wonderful.
Now at college I don't have the means to post things to the net anymore, and
though I would like to be able to give people Cdrs for free if they asked
for them, I'm afraid I simply can't afford it.

Hmmm..now to your comments about students...Well, I would join you in saying
that lots of students are wankers. This much is true. Quite a few, however,
are not...self-pitying? I do not think that word could be used to describe
myself...I could not be happier to be a student..I am loving it and I'm
grateful to have the chance to do something like this. I have never felt
like I have ever ripped anyone off...the people who do that are the guys on
Camden market selling 2 Cdrs in a jewel case with a photocopied insert for
£20...I do not dispute that this is not for most people - perhaps those who
have access to the 'Dylan network' and those with CDr burners who can trade,
but for many this is a (very) cheap and easy way of building a reasonable
collection of boots...especially for those who don't want to go into it in a
big way (ie start trading).

Anyway, in some ways I agree with a lot of what you all say, but it's really
all the personal abuse which has got my back up...are you really as immature
as you sound? Has anyone out there got any words of support for me, or am I
pretty much out my own (with Annie!).

Matt

tom

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Jan 31, 2001, 8:52:58 PM1/31/01
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matt reading wrote:

> Anyway, in some ways I agree with a lot of what you all say, but it's really
> all the personal abuse which has got my back up...are you really as immature
> as you sound? Has anyone out there got any words of support for me, or am I
> pretty much out my own (with Annie!).

matt? i say fuck them in the ear is what i say. fuck 'em. what you're doing
isn't all that different than what people who make copies for people who send
blanks and postage are doing. and all this bullshit about how easy it is to get
people to just go ahead and do that for you expecting nothing in return?
right. tell me about it. bullshit. it would be one thing if you were charging
an arm and a leg for what you're doing. when it comes down to it what you're
providing is a service. plain and simple. and you know, i don't know about
other people, but i find it a little pathetic to show up on rmd and announce
that you are a "newbie" who needs help getting a cdr collection going and
wondering if any kind souls out there will help you. it's rather sad. and most
of the time, with a few exceptions -- there are a few angels among us here on
rmd...but many people are rather cheap and stingy and will never lend a helping
hand -- those people do not get the responses they hoped for. you're providing
a useful service and i recommend that anyone out there who wants to hear what
this bootleg cdr craze is about contact you and let you do all the grunt work,
let you burn the cdr's, get the art work together, do the mailing, and all
that. hell, all they have to do is slip a twenty dollar bill in an envelope and
send it your way. if that buys you a couple of pints on friday night, you know
what i say? good for you, mate. now, with that said, i think i'm going to go
find a bar stool...maybe find a bird to chat up...some easy minge perhaps.

Andrew Gray

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Feb 1, 2001, 1:46:10 AM2/1/01
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Annie White wrote:
>
> Ok - I really don't want to get into this conversation - BUT - having
> bought some CDRs from Matt Reading I just feel morally obliged to say
> that I feel that I got a very good deal

Plus he's a nice bloke. ;-)

> When were either of you two last a student in the UK? I'm way past
> anything but being an extremely mature student - but my step-daughter
> who graduated last year and worked all her spare time and holidays still
> came out of it with huge debts thanks to the UK government's decision to
> stop student grants and introduce a system of loans instead.

FWIW: I live in halls of residence, which probably puts me in the
"slightly subsidised & cushioned somewhere or other financially"
category. Even so, were I living on the Student Loan as & of itself, I'd
have a disposable income for the minor requirements of life - clothing,
transport, Class A drugs - um, forget that last bit... where was I?

Ah, yes, a disposable income somewhere in the region of under £10/week.
And all of that few thousand pounds/year has to go right back to HM
Treasury again, directly, in the future...

(Thankfully, I'm not living on the loan per se, but just to emphasise
the detail of our fiscal situation...)

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-Andrew Gray
shim...@bigfoot.com

chalawler

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Feb 1, 2001, 3:18:35 AM2/1/01
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Whoever 'Trevor Gibb' is, he sounds like a pompous twat to me...Matt can do
whatever the fuck he wants....if he wants to sell, and I want to buy, what
the fuck does it have to do with anyone else? I presume 'Trevor Gibb' is one
of those 'I'm alright Jack' types who has the collection he wants and access
to the discs he wants to get. Oi, 'Trevor'! Get off your high horse, you
Daily Mail reader, you!

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Andrew King

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Feb 1, 2001, 3:59:40 AM2/1/01
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Ok, guys i'm a Uk newbie and am following the above debate re:Matt ( nice
guy or git ) with interest.

I'd be interested in getting any decent bootleg CDs - so is anyone prepared
to do this out of the goodness of their heart or do i cross over to the dark
side of the force and fund Matt's drinking habits?

Anyone ( including Matt ! ) who wants to e-mail details of what they have
which they are prepared to let me have would be appreciated.


Daniel McLean

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> Listen dickhead,
>
> Take your typically arrogant student shite somewhere else. do not sell
cdr's
> here.

Perhaps some of the more recent contributors to rmd arn't aware of the
many downloads which Matt has made freely available in the past.
I certainly don't see him as a villainous profiteer & would be much happier
buying cdrs from him than from some back alley extension of organized crime.

Trade if you can ........... keep it in the family if you can't.


tom

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Feb 1, 2001, 9:06:37 AM2/1/01
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andrew king wrote:

> Ok, guys i'm a Uk newbie and am following the above debate re:Matt ( nice
> guy or git ) with interest.

welcome, andrew. i don't know matt but he seems ok. shouldn't that read an Uk
newbie? sheeeesh, what's with these brit types? it's so ironic that they often
are poor at english.

> I'd be interested in getting any decent bootleg CDs - so is anyone prepared
> to do this out of the goodness of their heart or do i cross over to the dark
> side of the force and fund Matt's drinking habits?

well, andy, you can always do both. however, ok, i will help you along. no,
i'm not talking about tomorrow gift of love give-a-way, people. don't worry,
you're all still in the running for that one.

but i hereby nominate andrew as the eighth rider on the carousel of love. just
last night i was informed by someone i'll just call "bill" that he will be
sending me a copy of a what he believes to be a "fairly rare recording"...one he
recently transferred from cassette successfully which sounds pretty good. the
show in question?

11-18-79 Santa Monica, CA - Civic Auditorium - Madmen Runnin Loose.

now, get this, this guy is brilliant - and i suggest that his idea be
incorporated into all of your daily lives - not only is he sending me a cdr copy
of the show for my own listening pleasure, he is sending me three, that's right,
you heard me correctly, three extra copies to be distributed as i see fit. as i
said, he believes this to be a fairly rare recording and he said he wanted to
get it out and about. when i heard about his offer of sending me three extra
copies of the show, at first i thought hmmmmmmm now's my chance to make some
real money, but no no no i will not do that for i fear being called a "wanker"
by some big eared toothy brit who needs to stop worrying about what others are
thinking so the heart inside him doesn't shrivel up like a prune.

soooooooo, andy, my lad, i'll be receiving this show sometime early next week
and you will have a copy in your grubby little hands by the end of that week.
and i most likely will throw in an extra show from my own very very very slowly
growing collection -- big hint there to you cheapskates who haven't contacted me
yet about which show (with three additional copies for distribution purposes)
you'll be sending me -- for your listening pleasure. (for those of you thinking
hey tom, what about the other two copies? when will you give those out? i say
this: look, stop being so greedy, they'll be distributed to a two righteous
souls when they appear.)

> Anyone ( including Matt ! ) who wants to e-mail details of what they have
> which they are prepared to let me have would be appreciated.

no, andrew, that's now the way i work. i'll tell you what you're getting and
you'll be happy to get it. why you, how dare you.

ok, that was a very very little joke. don't mind me. you know, just pulling
your tallystick or whatever you goofy uk'ers like to call it. congratulations
on being the eighth rider on the carousel. while awaiting the arrival of my
parcel of joy, why not contact matt and send him a fiver or whatever he's
charging and he'll send you portsmouth, it will be very worth it. he has a hell
of a thirst.

very well then, that's all...when in rome do as the romans do, as attila the hun
once said, so i bid you a g'day mate, your american benefactor, thomas.

chalawler

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Feb 1, 2001, 3:26:56 PM2/1/01
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UK-based fan ISO Dylan CD or CDR boots ....must have artwork and labels
(nothing post '78)
Please email offlist
Thanks

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Feb 1, 2001, 8:24:35 PM2/1/01
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I have bought Cdr's in the past before I started
to trade and when you don't have a burner buying
them is the only choice, except for the kind
people in RMD who offer 'freebees'

Mat is my opnion has been more then generous in
his time and efforts in posting MP3's to his web
site and he should be thanked for that.


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In article <95aeig$j7t$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Matt Reading" <mattr...@univcolllon.academics.co.uk> wrote:

Has anyone out there got any words of support for me, or
am I
> pretty much out my own (with Annie!).
>
> Matt


Hey Matt, you did a great job with that mp3 site you were running. For
a while it was hard keeping up downloading the shows as quickly as you
put them up. And, who could forget that home demo Blind Willie McTell
that you flopped out on an unsuspecting public.

That said, I don't see much point in selling CD-Rs for very little
profit if you're doing it to supplement your income as a poor student.
How much money can you make anyway? For the time and mucking around
involved wouldn't you be better off getting a part-time job.

As for some of the other comments in this thread. Well I'm sure that a
hell of a lot of us started our collections by buying bootleg LPs or CDs
from someone (and were probably ripped off in the process but still left
feeling pretty bloody happy getting our hands on whatever it was we
could get them on to). Now that I have a CD Burner and, having already
bought a fair number of over-priced glass mastered CDs, a credible
source of stock for trading I choose not to buy bootlegs. And for
whatever reasons I choose not to sell copies for a profit. Most of the
time I trade, sometimes I give CD-Rs away, sometimes I do B&Ps and
sometimes its easier just to get reimbursed the cost of materials.

I think it's a bit hypocritical to say death to the evil bootlegger who
sells for a profit and gleefully predict how trading CD-Rs will spell
the end of bootleggers when without what's come before none of us might
be trading this sort of stuff in the first place. In my view we have a
lot to thank those commercial bootleggers for. There are a lot of
collectors who would still be selfishly hanging on to their rare tapes
or acetates if sufficient cash had not been waved at them by someone
looking to make a quick buck. And there are no doubt plenty more people
still hanging on to some "rare" recording for that sense of
one-upmanship it gives them over other collectors.

All that said, if I was just starting out collecting bootlegs with
nothing to trade and someone was offering to sell me some titles at a
very small mark-up on cost - then I'd probably be a buyer.

Tony Iremonger
Melbourne, Australia
Trade List:http://home.connexus.com.au/~ironman/

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