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Dr_dudley

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May 20, 2013, 7:06:04 PM5/20/13
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bile duct cancer. he was 74

marcus

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May 20, 2013, 8:38:48 PM5/20/13
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On May 20, 7:06 pm, Dr_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
> bile duct cancer. he was 74

I guess I shouldn't be shocked when Rock musicians in their 70s pass
away, but Manzarek's death took me by surprise today.

He was the perfect organist for the Doors. He and Krieger
complemented each other.

http://marccatone.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=106438086

http://marccatone.webs.com/newbook.htm


Marc

really real

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May 20, 2013, 8:44:04 PM5/20/13
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I loved the way Ray played bass with one hand. Loved his solos too

And I liked what he did with the band X as well.

M. Rick

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May 20, 2013, 9:16:08 PM5/20/13
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Strangely enough all Stones ’69 are still alive while Brian Jones was
the first to go.

really real

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May 20, 2013, 9:23:56 PM5/20/13
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On 5/20/2013 6:16 PM, M. Rick wrote:
> Strangely enough all Stones �69 are still alive while Brian Jones was
> the first to go.
>


Success keeps them alive, I guess.

gemjack

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May 21, 2013, 3:39:24 PM5/21/13
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 17:38:48 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On May 20, 7:06�pm, Dr_dudley <dud...@cloud9.net> wrote:
>> bile duct cancer. he was 74
>
>I guess I shouldn't be shocked when Rock musicians in their 70s pass
>away, but Manzarek's death took me by surprise today.
>
>He was the perfect organist for the Doors. He and Krieger
>complemented each other.
>
>http://marccatone.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=106438086

That's amazing. Played your High School! wow.


>http://marccatone.webs.com/newbook.htm
>
>
>Marc

There were a few years in my early 20's when I was roaming around
without a care in the world and the doors were the soundtrack of my
life. Amazing that they did all their work in about 3 years. I read
once that they were considered the anti-hippy movement. The
anti-Beatles, anti-Grateful Dead, etc. They never really sung about
peace and love and all that, I imagine that seemed silly to them. They
wanted you to be on edge, to realize that something isn't quite right
here. We're in the days where (some of) our old heroes are dropping
off.
-gj
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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 21, 2013, 10:49:08 PM5/21/13
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On May 21, 10:07 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> I was in a record store yesterday evening, seeing a lovely (if shorter
> than I'd like) folk performance. Unexpectedly was hit with the Manzarek
> news because there was a collectable Doors LP on display with a "RIP Ray
> Manzarek 1939-2013" Post-It attached.
>
> This was the second time I found out about a major rock-star death
> inside a record store. The first? Elvis.
>
> I've been a Doors fan almost as long as I've liked rock music (they were
> basically the third '60s act I ever embraced, following the Beatles and
> Who), but I became less a fan of Manzarek's style as I grew up and heard
> a wider range of music. There are plenty of Doors tracks where I'd like
> him to sound bluesier, jazzier or "freer," and instead he often sounded
> like he was just running up and down his Bach scales. And as a bassist,
> his adherence to the 1-3-5 notes was a bit pedestrian.
>
> Some favorite not-so-famous Doors songs: "Hyacinth House," "Peace Frog,"
> "Waiting for the Sun," "Universal Mind," "Land Ho," "Indian Summer,"
> "You're Lost Little Girl," "I Can't See Your Face in My Mind," "Spanish
> Caravan," "Wintertime Love."
>
> I was just on Wikipedia and found mention of a (crummy) song I'd never
> heard before.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylp53UFBQKo

It's in my top 5 of all time, although not the Doors shit version, but
this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mvVGENCum0

Little Walter with the greatest harp solo of all time.

I suppose you didn't know the Doors version because it was only on a
single back then.

The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 21, 2013, 10:50:53 PM5/21/13
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On May 21, 10:07 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> I've been a Doors fan almost as long as I've liked rock music (they were
> basically the third '60s act I ever embraced, following the Beatles and
> Who), but I became less a fan of Manzarek's style as I grew up and heard
> a wider range of music. There are plenty of Doors tracks where I'd like
> him to sound bluesier,

Bluesier?

What the fuck actual blues do you like?

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really real

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May 22, 2013, 9:41:15 AM5/22/13
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On 5/21/2013 7:59 PM, poisoned rose wrote:
> You only replied to my post twice. Surely, you can come up with a few
> more neurotic rejoinders to pile on.
>



How did your mother like the Door's line, "Mother, I want to _______ you?"

gemjack

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May 22, 2013, 12:21:59 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 06:41:15 -0700, really real <reall...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
This says a lot about you RR, you should be ashamed.

This is beside the fact Jim never technically says that in the (album
version of the) song. Live versions however....
-gj

marcus

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May 22, 2013, 12:41:31 PM5/22/13
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On May 21, 3:39 pm, gemjack <geminijackso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://marccatone.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=106438086
>
> That's amazing.  Played your High School!  wow.

If you read my piece about it on my website, I mention that the local
college hired them. The Doors weren't super-big yet, which is why
WestConn probably could afford to hire them.

But, yes...even now it amazes me that I actually saw them perform on
the same stage where I stood as part of the school chorus.
>
> >http://marccatone.webs.com/newbook.htm
>
> >Marc
>
> There were a few years in my early 20's when I was roaming around
> without a care in the world and the doors were the soundtrack of my
> life.  Amazing that they did all their work in about 3 years.  I read
> once that they were considered the anti-hippy movement.  The
> anti-Beatles, anti-Grateful Dead, etc.  They never really sung about
> peace and love and all that, I imagine that seemed silly to them. They
> wanted you to be on edge, to realize that something isn't quite right
> here.  We're in the days where (some of) our old heroes are dropping
> off.
> -gj

Thinking about this is retrospect, when the Sixties were in progress I
never thought about what group was singing about peace or whatever,
the big thing for me was the group's creativity. Of course, I liked
the peace message better than "Father, I want to kill you", but Jim
was an exception
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gemjack

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May 22, 2013, 4:28:29 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:05:01 -0700, poisoned rose
<pro...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:

>> This is beside the fact Jim never technically says that in the (album
>> version of the) song.
>
>Yeah, but "Mother, I want to fuaaawwwhhhuhuhcomeonbaby" is a pretty good
>line too.


Ever seen that interview on youtube with his father?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz63-q8otYM
-gj
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M. Rick

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May 22, 2013, 7:15:47 PM5/22/13
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> Thinking about this is retrospect, when the Sixties were in progress I never thought about what group was singing about peace or whatever, the big thing for me was the group's creativity.

Now that the creativity’s been sucked out of rock music, all that’s
left are the agendas. I guess Morrison didn’t miss much
artistically. Shame he died though, he could have been the Orson
Welles of rock and roll. I don’t know what’s worse, defacing a
beautiful cemetery or an Oliver Stone movie. By the way, the real Bob
Dylan is buried next to Lucky Luciano, in honor of folk singers from
Queens.

really real

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May 22, 2013, 7:22:32 PM5/22/13
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>>
>> How did your mother like the Door's line, "Mother, I want to _______ you?"
>
> This says a lot about you RR, you should be ashamed.
>
> This is beside the fact Jim never technically says that in the (album
> version of the) song. Live versions however....
> -gj
>


He never says what? I left the line blank because he sings it like an
empty word.

I'm not so sure about what I am supposed to be ashamed of? For making
fun of poisoned rose's relationship with his mother, or for going oedipal?
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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 22, 2013, 9:18:42 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 7:25 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> "M. Rick" <insomniati...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Shame he died though, he could have been the Orson
> > Welles of rock and roll.
>
> Now picturing fat, gray-haired Jim doing TV wine commercials. Hrmmm.

At least he would have hair:

http://images.classmates.com/pho208/a/R/W/Q/13682478_display.jpg
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rwalker

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May 22, 2013, 9:50:40 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 06:41:15 -0700, really real <reall...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

PR's such a drama queen.

BobbyM

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May 22, 2013, 10:01:50 PM5/22/13
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On 23-May-13 10:44 AM, poisoned rose wrote:

> I'd venture to guess that my appearance is fairly enviable around
> this particular population set.

We have a winner; nominations for joke of the month are officially closed.

RichL

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May 22, 2013, 10:03:54 PM5/22/13
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"really real" <reall...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Qqcnt.12062$Ve3....@newsfe12.iad...
Lame, lame, lame. I don't know what's worse, you with this business or BB
being obsessed with PR's picture. You can do better; don't stoop to BB's
level.

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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 22, 2013, 10:24:52 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 9:44 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy, desperately:
>
> > > > Shame he died though, he could have been the Orson
> > > > Welles of rock and roll.
>
> > > Now picturing fat, gray-haired Jim doing TV wine commercials. Hrmmm.
>
> > At least he would have hair:
>
> >http://images.classmates.com/pho208/a/R/W/Q/13682478_display.jpg
>
> Still a laughably pathetic attempt at "wounding" me.
>
> You're a tiny, tiny man.
>
> Beyond the case of "gemjack," who is undoubtedly an utter gladiator, I'd
> venture to guess that my appearance is fairly enviable around this
> particular population set.
>
> Me: James Taylor.
> You: Allan Sherman.
>
> Best of luck with that glass house.

Here's me:

http://history-of-rock.com/brg.jpg

I don't see a resemblence with Allan Sherman, although we both do have
quick wit.



marcus

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May 23, 2013, 8:29:19 AM5/23/13
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Don't buy the liverwurst.

really real

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May 23, 2013, 9:47:36 AM5/23/13
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>> I'm not so sure about what I am supposed to be ashamed of? For making
>> fun of poisoned rose's relationship with his mother, or for going
>> oedipal?
>
> Lame, lame, lame. I don't know what's worse, you with this business or
> BB being obsessed with PR's picture. You can do better; don't stoop to
> BB's level.


You give me three "lames?" Talk about stooping to levels.That[s pr's
favorite defense to avoid a post. And talk about calling the kettle
black about being lame. Most of our posts are rather scandalously lame.

I still don't know what the scandal was. I was accused of misquoting Jim
Morrison, which I did not do. Was it shameful to bring up this Oedipul
line, or are you saying that jokes about poisoned rose and his mother
should not be allowed? I think you are missing the spirit of repartee here.

Bloomfield Buddy does a lot of wrong, and I don't avoid criticizing him
for it. He's obsessed and wrong about rock n roll baldness, and his
taste in music can get very bizarre. He also has stalking issues.
However, he does bring a lot of humour here and he has a lot of musical
knowledge, some of which I find really valuable.

Now, what have you done for rmd lately?

The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 11:00:07 AM5/23/13
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On May 23, 9:47 am, really real <reallyr...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> his taste in music can get very bizarre.

I've never gotten that before, What would say is bazarre about my
taste in music?

I suppose it may be bizarre compared to what most people in this group
like, but I assure you, there are thousands of people around the world
with very similar taste to me. I know hundreds myself.

really real

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May 23, 2013, 1:04:26 PM5/23/13
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Could you please make a list.





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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 4:31:01 PM5/23/13
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Roger Ford
Ed Hoehl
Vinny Caputo
Frank Castellano
Frank Osmers

There's 5 off the top of my head.

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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 4:39:49 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 4:32 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Here's me:
>
> >http://history-of-rock.com/brg.jpg
>
> I'll be assigning my laboratory team to carbon-date that photo. Maybe
> you look unusually joyful because you had just seen the debut episode of
> "The Sopranos."

Here's one from last week:

http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124475&d=1368944699

icn...@gmail.com

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May 23, 2013, 4:50:34 PM5/23/13
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What probably strikes people as a bit odd and puzzling, if not "bizzare", BB, is that you post about not caring about lyrics in a Bob Dylan(of all people) newsgroup... Bob Dylan's music IS mainly about the lyrics... your anti wordy, anti intellectual sentiments don't appear to coincide paticularly well with a newsgroup devoted to a very wordy, intellectual singer...

The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 5:20:50 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 4:50 pm, icn...@gmail.com wrote:

>   What probably strikes people as a bit odd and puzzling, if not "bizzare", BB, is that you post about not caring about lyrics in a Bob Dylan(of all people) newsgroup... Bob Dylan's music IS mainly about the lyrics

Actually, Bob gets annoyed that nobody has ever given him much credit
for his melodies.

... your anti wordy, anti intellectual sentiments don't appear to
coincide paticularly well with a newsgroup devoted to a very wordy,
intellectual singer...

I like intellect, just not as part of music.

Just Kidding

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May 23, 2013, 5:23:16 PM5/23/13
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Only hundreds (minus 5) more to go.
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Just Kidding

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May 23, 2013, 5:54:51 PM5/23/13
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Do you really think intellect is unnecessary to write music? Does it
just write itself or what?

The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 6:09:02 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 5:24 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I like intellect, just not as part of music.
>
> Or fiction...or poetry...or....

Correct.

I prefer it in science, mathematics, computers, you know, real life
things rather than pretend things like song lyrics and fictional
stories or faggy poems.



The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 6:12:53 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 5:54 pm, Just Kidding <JustKidd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 14:20:50 -0700 (PDT), The Bloomfield Buddy
>
I've met a couple of my favorite songwriters. I'm not gonna mention
names, but they did not seem all that bright in general. I'm assuming
they just know music real well. It's kind of like the 10th great
dropout (Arthur Fonzarelli) who is a whiz with cars.





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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 6:17:42 PM5/23/13
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> Mm hmm.
>
> The longer you're here, the more people are just going to think "Jeez,
> PR is an utter joy compared to THIS jerk." You might want to consider
> whether this aligns with your agenda.

If nothing else me and RR can just entertain each other by mocking
you.

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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 6:27:53 PM5/23/13
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> Right. So you and RR de-evolve further and further into marginal
> annoyances for the rest of the newsgroup to ignore. And of course, you
> have to focus on petty character attacks, since neither of you are
> equipped to take down my musical ideas in a proper fashion.

There's just too much to mock to even get to your musical ideas.

really real

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May 23, 2013, 6:35:08 PM5/23/13
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>>
>>> If nothing else me and RR can just entertain each other by mocking
>>> you.
>>
>> Right. So you and RR de-evolve further and further into marginal
>> annoyances for the rest of the newsgroup to ignore. And of course, you
>> have to focus on petty character attacks, since neither of you are
>> equipped to take down my musical ideas in a proper fashion.
>
> There's just too much to mock to even get to your musical ideas.
>

The difference between you, poisoned rose, and Bloomfield Buddy, is that
Bloomfield Buddy knows how to carry on a conversation about music. He
doesn't get sidetracked by paranoia.

You and I have probably more similar tastes in music, and definitely in
literature, than Bloomfield Buddy and I. But I know which of you I'd
rather be stuck on a desert island with.

Bloomfield Buddy does have it in for you, of course, but I suspect, like
everyone else on your enemies list, that you started it.
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The Bloomfield Buddy

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May 23, 2013, 7:42:57 PM5/23/13
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Here's 5 more, the guys who collaborated on this:

http://myweb.clemson.edu/~campber/veejay.html

Robert Pruter, Robert L. Campbell, Robert Stallworth, Bob Marovich,
and Tom Kelly

And the guy (Terry Gordon) who put this together:

http://rcs-discography.com/rcs/index.html

And these people:

•-
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"really real" <reall...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
>>> I'm not so sure about what I am supposed to be ashamed of? For making
>>> fun of poisoned rose's relationship with his mother, or for going
>>> oedipal?
>>
>> Lame, lame, lame. I don't know what's worse, you with this business or
>> BB being obsessed with PR's picture. You can do better; don't stoop to
>> BB's level.
>
>
> You give me three "lames?" Talk about stooping to levels.That[s pr's
> favorite defense to avoid a post. And talk about calling the kettle black
> about being lame. Most of our posts are rather scandalously lame.
>
> I still don't know what the scandal was. I was accused of misquoting Jim
> Morrison, which I did not do. Was it shameful to bring up this Oedipul
> line, or are you saying that jokes about poisoned rose and his mother
> should not be allowed? I think you are missing the spirit of repartee
> here.

This "spirit of repartee" seems to be shared only by you and BB.

People have aging parents living with them for a variety of valid reasons.
Hell, as I approach what for most folks would be retirement age, I can only
hope that one of my kids would take me in in the event that I'm no longer
able to fully care for myself at some point. It sure beats an old folks
home.

In any event, if it is actually true that PR lives with his mother, so what?
Why is that supposed to reflect poorly on him? I don't get it at all.

RichL

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"The Bloomfield Buddy" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Three quarks for Muster Mark!
Sure he has not got much of a bark
And sure any he has it's all beside the mark."

James Joyce, from "Finnegan's Wake"

The quark model, in case you don't know, was proposed by physicist Murray
Gell-Mann and later verified as one of the most fundamental entities
occurring in nature. Gell-Mann named his newly proposed entities based on
Joyce's fictional story/faggy poem.

Being a physicist myself, I prefer people in technical fields (of whom I've
recruited many) to have well-rounded backgrounds. Being literate
language-wise and technically aren't mutually exclusive.

RichL

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"The Bloomfield Buddy" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I've met a couple of my favorite songwriters. I'm not gonna mention
> names, but they did not seem all that bright in general. I'm assuming
> they just know music real well. It's kind of like the 10th great
> dropout (Arthur Fonzarelli) who is a whiz with cars.

I don't suppose it's appropriate to point out that the Fonz is a fictional
character?

RichL

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"The Bloomfield Buddy" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Post one where you don't have to be a member of a particular group to see
it.

The Bloomfield Buddy

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On May 23, 7:53 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:7a97ac6a-098e-4d8f...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
I prefer people who are NOT well rounded. If I owned an NFL team, for
instance, I want a coach who sleeps, eats and breathes football 18
hours a day. Not somebody who has a bunch of other interests.

The Bloomfield Buddy

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On May 23, 7:55 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:2c9cca99-8b9b-4708...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I've met a couple of my favorite songwriters. I'm not gonna mention
> > names, but they did not seem all that bright in general. I'm assuming
> > they just know music real well. It's kind of like the 10th great
> > dropout (Arthur Fonzarelli) who is a whiz with cars.
>
> I don't suppose it's appropriate to point out that the Fonz is a fictional
> character?

I wouldn't read about him.

The Bloomfield Buddy

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On May 23, 7:57 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:28f833bd-511e-45fc...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 23, 4:32 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> >> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Here's me:
>
> >> >http://history-of-rock.com/brg.jpg
>
> >> I'll be assigning my laboratory team to carbon-date that photo. Maybe
> >> you look unusually joyful because you had just seen the debut episode of
> >> "The Sopranos."
>
> > Here's one from last week:
>
> >http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124475&d=13...
>
> Post one where you don't have to be a member of a particular group to see
> it.

I don't have anywhere to post it. I'm not in these facebook type
things.

I'll email it toy ou and you can post it somewhwre.

The Bloomfield Buddy

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On May 23, 7:46 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> People have aging parents living with them for a variety of valid reasons.

She not living with HIM, HE's living with HER.

> In any event, if it is actually true that PR lives with his mother, so what?
> Why is that supposed to reflect poorly on him?

Ask a woman if she'd go out with a 50 year old guy who still lived
with his mother.

It didn't seem to hurt JR Ewing though.



Just Kidding

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>�J�rn Wounlund
>�Jos Wouters
>�Stefan Wriedt
>�Ron Wright
>�Sam Wyatt
>�Michael Wynne
>�Kirill Yakovlev
>�Mark Yarcusko
>�Carl Yoder
>�Tom Zagryn
>�Alexander Zah
>�Layton Zbornik
>�Hans Peter Zdrenka
>�Franz Zeleny
>�Benn Joe Zeppa
>�Bernard Zitoune
>�Wayne Zittel
>
>
I hope this was a cut and paste job, because if you took the time to
type out all those names you really need to get a life.

marcus

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May 23, 2013, 10:00:45 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 8:33 pm, The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> I prefer people who are NOT well rounded. If I owned an NFL team, for
> instance, I want a coach who sleeps, eats and breathes football 18
> hours a day. Not somebody who has a bunch of other interests.

Do you let your peas roll into your mashed potatoes on your dinner
plate, or do you insist that they not come into contact with one
another?

Marc

The Bloomfield Buddy

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I don't even put them on the plate, they each get a separate bowl.

marcus

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Yes, I know...I'm a fine one to be urging all of us here to get along,
and wean ourselves from personal attacks, but that is what I am
advocating. (listening to Bob's "Knocking on Heaven's Door" right
now...just thought I'd mention that).

It's very odd, but when I'm not participating in a slug fest, as the
one between RR, BB, and PR, it gives me a different perspective.
Mostly, it makes me realize what a waste of time and energy it is.
I'm not saying that gripes against people should be forgotten and
shoved under the rug, but after awhile it becomes tiresome (and I say
this, realizing that it might sound hypocritical as someone who has
been arguing with Eric in three different decades, and two different
centuries).

RR, I enjoy your posts, and hope you consider me a Usenet friend, but
I think if you go back and read your posts of late, you might realize
that your spinning your tires...it's not getting you anywhere. You're
just giving power to what you dislike.

BB, you are a very intelligent man...your knowledge of music is
amazing, you should put it between two hardcovers, but your relentless
antagonism with PR undermines the respect you deserve for the subject
you know so well. And how do you know if PR lives with his mother or
not, and as Rich said, what difference does it make if he does?

PR, we've had a lot of bad blood between us (to put it mildly), but I
do respect your opinions even if I don't always agree with the steps
you take to form them. I don't understand why you put up with all the
abuse you receive, but without being an armchair psychologist, being
on Usenet and sparring with folks is obviously something you need. I
would just ask you to analyse why, if you can step back and look at
your self more or less objectively.

Again, I realize that my "lecture/advice" above might be laughable to
those who have seen my Usenet wars with different people. Some may
even view it as being hypocritical. So be it. I felt the need to say
it nonetheless.

Rodney King was right.

The Bloomfield Buddy

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On May 23, 10:17 pm, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> BB, you are a very intelligent man...

You are correct.

> your knowledge of music is amazing,

Naturally.

> And how do you know if PR lives with his mother or
> not,

They even share a phone.

Eric L Broome
Home (714) 992-0276
1868 W Las Lanas Ln
Fullerton, CA 92833-1862

Monika R Broome
Home (714) 992-0276
1868 W Las Lanas Ln
Fullerton, CA 92833-1862

RichL

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"The Bloomfield Buddy" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1595109915684&set=a.1599519305916.79679.1174027731&type=3&theater>

A much better (and more recent) pic than the one you snipped out of my
Soundclick page.

The Bloomfield Buddy

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On May 23, 10:51 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:a6be6267-9712-4304...@h5g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 7:57 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "The Bloomfield Buddy" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:28f833bd-511e-45fc...@g9g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On May 23, 4:32 pm, poisoned rose <pros...@poissonedrose.com> wrote:
> >> >> The Bloomfield Buddy <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Here's me:
>
> >> >> >http://history-of-rock.com/brg.jpg
>
> >> >> I'll be assigning my laboratory team to carbon-date that photo. Maybe
> >> >> you look unusually joyful because you had just seen the debut episode
> >> >> of
> >> >> "The Sopranos."
>
> >> > Here's one from last week:
>
> >> >http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124475&d=13...
>
> >> Post one where you don't have to be a member of a particular group to see
> >> it.
>
> > I don't have anywhere to post it. I'm not in these facebook type
> > things.
>
> > I'll email it toy ou and you can post it somewhwre.
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1595109915684&set=a.159951930...>
>
> A much better (and more recent) pic than the one you snipped out of my
> Soundclick page.

Well, we each have our hair, unlike Eric (Larry Fine) Broome.



RichL

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"The Bloomfield Buddy" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Considering I'm almost 65, I'll take what I've got.

really real

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>
> BB's endless, combatant posting history (here and elsewhere) speaks for
> itself. His oft-repeated manifesto about having a "problem" with people
> whose tastes are too white to please him speaks for itself.
>

"endless combative posting history?" You mean he's worse than you about
this? That's priceless.

And he's honest about it. You go ballistic when I point out how
un-lyric-centric your taste is.

Whenever you tell me to post something real, you are really saying, "lay
off, you're hitting close to home."

really real

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>
> RR, I enjoy your posts, and hope you consider me a Usenet friend, but
> I think if you go back and read your posts of late, you might realize
> that your spinning your tires...it's not getting you anywhere. You're
> just giving power to what you dislike.
>

So Marcus, what's your opinion of Jackson Browne?


What kind of music did your mother like?

really real

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If PR has no wife or girlfriend, so what? Why is that supposed to
reflect poorly on him? Why would there be a relationship between the way
he relates to people here and in real life?

The Bloomfield Buddy

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On May 24, 9:21 am, really real <reallyr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> On 5/23/2013 5:45 PM, The Bloomfield Buddy wrote:
>
> > On May 23, 7:46 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> People have aging parents living with them for a variety of valid reasons.
>
> > She not living with HIM, HE's living with HER.
>
> >> In any event, if it is actually true that PR lives with his mother, so what?
> >> Why is that supposed to reflect poorly on him?
>
> > Ask a woman if she'd go out with a 50 year old guy who still lived
> > with his mother.
>
> > It didn't seem to hurt JR Ewing though.
>
> If PR has no wife or girlfriend, so what?

He claims to have a girlfriend. He's found ways to mention her in
posts, to make sure we all know about it.


> Why is that supposed to
> reflect poorly on him? Why would there be a relationship between the way
> he relates to people here and in real life?

Talk to Freud.

http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/men-that-live-with-their-mothers/

Now I’m going to say something that no doubt many men won’t like and
certainly it should set off some alarm bells if you’re with one of
these guys:

Most guys with a healthy relationship with their mother and a fairly
decent level of connection to their emotions, definitely do not want
to be living with their mother past their mid to late twenties; thirty
at a push.

Unless he has been a victim of famine, and destruction, for instance,
financial issues, no man who actually wants to have a relationship and
do it in a healthy way is going to be literally living under his
mothers apron strings.

This may sound harsh but the reality is that I am yet to come across a
man living with his mother that is able to have a healthy relationship
with a girlfriend.

It is bad enough going out with a guy that’s an overt mummy’s boy, but
at least he’s evolved enough to have made it out of the house! The
words ‘uphill struggle’ spring to mind.

I’ll buy the necessity reason for a year or two, but the thing is,
most of the men who I have ever come across that still live with their
mothers, live there because they want to. Oh they might do the whole
One Time in Bandcamp Thing, where they claim they had a problem that
caused them to be living at home with them and yada, yada, yada, but
by the time you meet them, that problem is waaaaay in the past and no
longer relevant.

I know of some very well off men that still live at home…Mind you,
they’re well off because they save a fortune….and they’re tight….

He’s living there because he wants to. He can avoid getting serious in
his relationships by having an obstacle of his mother. If things don’t
work out, he can always convince himself that it was because you
didn’t impress his mother or you weren’t as perfect as you should be.

But…let’s say you did meet a guy and he lived with his mother – if
he’s serious about you, he will want to be moving out of his mothers
pronto! Do you want to be putting a ‘do not disturb’ sign on your door
or only getting jiggy at your place because you don’t want to be
thinking of his mother lying in bed in her rollers and blue rinse,
listening to the two of you having a shag?

Clandestine is funny and exciting for a little while, but at some
point, you want your relationship to progress past the high school
gates!


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Jordy Chase

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Bravo Marcus! Often when peopoe fight and argue on the internet, it's about venting, and also about projection... People have images and ideas of who people are, that may have very little to do with reality... why waste time being angry with and fighting with strangers on the internet? I supposes what's important is having some sense of perspective, proportion and context...

rwalker

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On Thu, 23 May 2013 19:17:21 -0700 (PDT), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You are correct, of course, but I've found a good kill file makes life
on line much more enjoyable.
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really real

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May 25, 2013, 9:32:57 PM5/25/13
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>
>> You go ballistic when I point out how
>> un-lyric-centric your taste is.
>
> I don't go ballistic. I just shrug at receiving more of your usual
> disingenuous baiting.

If only.

If only you would just shrug, rather than blather on and on about it.

Too bad they don't charge you by the word here.

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