Sandwich?
Mr Jinx
If Bob Dylan made you a sandwich .... would you eat it without
checking what was inside first?
If you would are you the sort of person who takes sandwiches on trust
or would that be a measure of your trust in Dylan?
If you wouldn't, why not?
Mr Jinx (just finishing my sandwich)
DylanCover.com
> If Bob Dylan made you a sandwich .... would you eat it without
> checking what was inside first?
>
> If you would are you the sort of person who takes sandwiches on trust
> or would that be a measure of your trust in Dylan?
>
If it was a hotdog, I would check to see if it was dirty.
Mr Jinx
What if it came with brown rice and a seaweed wrap?
Mr Jinx
Upbeat & Cheerful Martin
> If Bob Dylan made you a sandwich .... would you eat it without
> checking what was inside first?
I'd eat it, but if he'd put tomatoes or mustard in it I'd have a hard
time following through. I'd hope he knew what he was doing too. All
those days eating catering company food or sitting in restaurants
staring at the waitresses legs might mean his sandwich making skills
are a bit rusty. Hopefully he'd make it interesting - maybe a little
cooked chilli sprinkled on humous? That would be nice
really real
and banana and he has these flown to him from his favorite Minnesota
sandwich shop when he is on the road?
crazytimes
Available at the Reality Sandwich shop... Don't cost nothin'...
really real
>> What about the rumour that Dylan's favorite sandwich is peanut butter
>> and banana and he has these flown to him from his favorite Minnesota
>> sandwich shop when he is on the road?
>
> Available at the Reality Sandwich shop... Don't cost nothin'...
I have a slight problem with Warron Zevon's mission statement to enjoy
every sandwich. I think it should have been changed into 'enjoy every
meal, and if the meal has to be a sandwich, then enjoy the sandwich.
My current mission statement is Look At Every Bird.
Just Walkin'
I don't eat much bread, but when I do, I prefer to avoid products that
include high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient. Most bread these
days utilize this unhealthy substance, so I would have to be wary.
really real
>
> I don't eat much bread, but when I do, I prefer to avoid products that
> include high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient. Most bread these
> days utilize this unhealthy substance, so I would have to be wary.
The true secret of life is to buy freshly baked bread every day from the
best bakery in town.
SunDog
>
> The true secret of life is to buy freshly baked bread every day from the
> best bakery in town.
Another true secret of life is not to regard oneself so highly as to
want only the best for oneself.
SunDog
gemjack
That's a lot of bread.
-gj
M. Rick
"Stay hungry my friends"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2SSZA0CjdQ
really real
>> The true secret of life is to buy freshly baked bread every day from the
>> best bakery in town.
>
> Another true secret of life is not to regard oneself so highly as to
> want only the best for oneself.
Exactly - and this is the conundrum I have with Buddhism. There is
wonderful bread in my city, and wonderful sights to see in the
surrounding nature. There are great bicycle trails in the parks.
However, for a true spiritual lifestyle, I'm supposed to settle for
mediocre things because this life, at best, is irrelevant and probably
illusionary.
That's why I consider religion to be anti-life.
M. Rick
Perhaps you need a religion that better suits your lifestyle.
Dylan's, for instance.
Dr_dudley
Sorry for the nature of this graball reply, but it seems acceptably
streamlined to me; anyOne offended by a breach of protocol, my
sincerest apology.
On Nov 20, 10:14 am, Mr Jinx <vernon__bris...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> If Bob Dylan made you a sandwich .... would you eat it without
> checking what was inside first?
>
I would eat it without checking, first taking a bite and saying
"MMMmmmm, good sandwich", even if it wasn't.
When i prepare food for myself, i have certain dietary considerations
i take into account.
When i prepare food for others, i moderate those concerns (maybe not
everybody likes so much black pepper and wants a little salt, e.g.).
When someone prepares food for me and offers it to me, i take and eat
graciously... Except for brussel sprouts.
> If you would are you the sort of person who takes sandwiches on trust
> or would that be a measure of your trust in Dylan?
>
Largely i thnik we, or at least i, can leave Dylan out of the
equation; my answer wd be the same had you asked "if Brian Boitano" or
"if Jesus Christ our Lord" or "if Mr Jinx" made me a sandwich.
and broccoli. and cauliflower.
On Nov 20, 1:44 pm, "Just Walkin'" <kensh...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I don't eat much bread, but when I do, I prefer to avoid products that
> include high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient. Most bread these
> days utilize this unhealthy substance, so I would have to be wary.
It just so happens that, thanks to a short workweek, i'm making
sandwiches for my worktime meal.
& as it happens, purchased the storebrand whole wheat bread. I
understand your concern about "high fructose corn syrup", so i checked
it out.
The bread contains for sweeteners honey & less than 2% sugar, but no
"hfcs".
Label reading does add time to the grocery shopping experience, but
over time you learn what not to buy.
What irks me is that less than 2 years ago that loaf of bread was
1.99$US; it is now 2.79.
I'm not looking for a discourse on the politics of food economy any
more than when i ask what time is it do i want to know how a clock
works. I'm just saying.
Not that i know much about this stuff, but i'm thniking you're
misreading Buddyist thought.
When i was back there in seminary school i did read into World
Religions. At that time, since discredited apparently, there were two
vessels to enlightenment, Mahayana & Hinayana, the greater and the
lesser boats.
To my understanding, nearsighted as it might be, it is in bodhiMind
Attachment that is the greatest obstacle to enlightenment. In the
words of Third Zen Patriarch:
}
The Great Way is not difficult
for those who have no preferences.
When love and hate are both absent
everything becomes clear and undisguised.
Make the smallest distinction, however,
and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart.
{
That is to say, best bread, mediocre bread, high-fructose white bread,
it don't matter. It's the attachment to any of those.
> That's why I consider religion to be anti-life.
& that's why i respect yr perspective, while reminding that some
religions are pro-life.
Of course, given the "westernisation" of "eastern" religions, we have
the feller at Mt. Baldy Leonard studied with while his fortune was
being ripped off. If i recall correctly, the Roshi there was fond of
Scotch; Leonard preferred wine. Comparative religion in practice
dynamically.
& then there was that dude at Naropa; when Joni visited him, if i
recall correctly, at some time she pulled out a bag of cocaine & said
"THIS is my god". He snorted, and then went on snorting. Not coke, but
a form of pranayama (tonal breath control).
He was purportedly an indulger in alcohol & wimmens.
The ? being, were either of these "masters" attached to those
elements.
I'm gonna go grab another beer, non-attachedly.
BTW, the best bread is the bread you bake yrSelf, no strings.
Illusorily not attached,
rdd
really real
> That is to say, best bread, mediocre bread, high-fructose white bread,
> it don't matter. It's the attachment to any of those.
Life has it's great bread and it's awful bread, and it's anti-life not
to notice the difference or to get attached to the wrong kind. As for
getting attached to the wonderful things life has to offer, why wouldn't
one get attached to them? To be detached would be anti-life.
Janice
>
There is nothing wrong with knowing great bread from bad bread, and
nothing wrong with prefering wonderful bread and other wonderful
things in this life. But enjoying wonderful things is not the same as
being attached to them, at least not in the zen-sense that I think
dudley is referring to.
In fact, the perfect balance would be to fully enjoy the wonderful
things in life while never becoming attached to them at all. Being
attached, in this sense, means being somehow identified with a thing
-- a good or bad thing -- to such a degree that it's difficult to tell
whether it owns you or you own it.
True freedom is never about ownership of any kind.
However, most of us, myself included, love our stuff beyond reason. I
can't tell you how attached I am to this chair I am sitting in right
now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BsiHydrT6U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI--TGQGNFc
~`~
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zimmy
> > I don't eat much bread, but when I do, I prefer to avoid products that include high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient. Most bread these days utilize this unhealthy substance, so I would have to be wary.
>
> "Stay hungry my friends"?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2SSZA0CjdQ
hy -rick -- great comment and the follow up with the dos equis
video--- enjoyed both --- cindy and dennis
zimmy
> On Nov 21, 12:20 am, "M. Rick" <insomniati...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I don't eat much bread, but when I do, I prefer to avoid products that include high fructose corn syrup as an ingredient. Most bread these days utilize this unhealthy substance, so I would have to be wary.
>
> > "Stay hungry my friends"?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2SSZA0CjdQ
>
hy treadleson --- thanks for the talking heads --- stay hungry video
--- great.... cindy and dennis
Upbeat & Cheerful Martin
> Life has it's great bread and it's awful bread, and it's anti-life not
> to notice the difference or to get attached to the wrong kind. As for
> getting attached to the wonderful things life has to offer, why wouldn't
> one get attached to them? To be detached would be anti-life
What does 'anti-life' mean? Is it the opposite of pro-life?
Dr_dudley
You may be right.
(to quote, or coin, a phrase)
On Nov 23, 11:24 pm, really real <reallyr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
'K now it gets hard sometimes to determine where yer real & when yer
exercising yr razorsharp satiric or ironic wit. Which exceeds the
ablility of my rube cornpone mentality t' grasp.
Let me Just re-establish that i don't know much about this stuff, and
so retract the phrase "nonAttachment" & rephrase it "hungUp".
We'll all agree that being hung up is not groovy. See bob:
}
But I'm walkin' and wonderin'
And my poor feet don't ever stop
Seein' my reflection
I'm hung over, hung down, hung up!
{
A person who espouses yr (seemingly) stated desire to have for
themselves only the best of things, bread or other, cd be said to be
hung up on having the best of things for themself.
A person who espouses my (purportedly) conflicted desire to have for
themselves only that which is good enough, bread or other, (i.e. Store
Brand) cd be said to be hung up on the knowledge that (o let's pick an
arbitrarily nonSupportable statistical number) 67% of the world would
crawl across cut glass to eat what i throw away.
I can say with reasonable certitude that my thoughtfeelings aren't
guiltdriven; i'm not sure what word would fit.
And that neither of us is guiltfree.
Nor nonattached unhungup.
Nor anti-life.
"That having been said", i'd like to thnak you for driving my impetus.
I contend that the best bread is home baked, and so on Sunday i re-
endeavoured, first time in at least 15 years, to bake a loaf, whole
wheat flour.
There's something about the process, waiting for the yeast to proof in
warm water, mixing up the ingredients, kneading the dough with the
heel of hand, turn, heel of hand, turn, & so on & waiting for the
dough to rise as the yeast reproofs.
Then slicing the fresh stillwarm loaf & sharing.
'Course back in the 60s a guy who baked bread, waaalll, it was like a
ChickMagnet.
Some chicks anyway.
Good stuff; a little yeasty tasting i'd like to correct, and i'd like
to find a good source for High Fructose Corn Syrup to replace the
honey, but... I'm working on it.
Yuh know the last time i bought store brand honey it was 2.79$US/12oz.
Now it's up to 3.39.
Go know.
Here's my very best to you,
rdd
+++
Coming home for work, this is what i heard on the radio. Pretty much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF24CaUrNSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94wzka9ZgVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsjW-Ivs-dY
(for 1500 bonus points, when dylan told one of the stones "I could
write Satisfaction", what song did he suggest they cdn't have
written?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l31MSpojWTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hLDmUrsHVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOX6hobaU8Q
}
An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.
{
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4gmbvDR8aE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8bRIkEJsVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1OYI5ybh2w
What did the innernet inquire?
What did the internest inspire?
It came thru the wire
Its bandwidth got higher
It set the woods on fire
I'm troubled & i don't know why
really real
>
> There is nothing wrong with knowing great bread from bad bread, and
> things in this life. But enjoying wonderful things is not the same as
> being attached to them, at least not in the zen-sense that I think
> dudley is referring to.
All things in moderation I suppose. We all know that some folks
appreciate Bob Dylan while others get way too attached to him.
Buddhists seem kind of hung up on that Siddha-rtha Gautama guy and erect
statues of him all over, where people flock to pay homage. Admittedly,
he's a nicer image to worship than that tortured image of Jesus on the
cross.
My philosophy of life is to get attached to the wonderful things on our
planet, especially other people, I suppose, but to be able to give them
up when they disappear, or when we, ourselves, turn to dust.
gemjack
wrote:
>
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with knowing great bread from bad bread, and
>> nothing wrong with preferring wonderful bread and other wonderful
>> things in this life. But enjoying wonderful things is not the same as
>> being attached to them, at least not in the zen-sense that I think
>> dudley is referring to.
>
>
>All things in moderation I suppose. We all know that some folks
>appreciate Bob Dylan while others get way too attached to him.
Like alcohol, drugs, food, the internet, sex, tv, and porn?
>Buddhists seem kind of hung up on that Siddha-rtha Gautama guy and erect
>statues of him all over, where people flock to pay homage. Admittedly,
>he's a nicer image to worship than that tortured image of Jesus on the
>cross.
Were I to place a bet, I'd say most don't. And I don't know any
Buddhists that 'worship' but I agree with your visual point.
>
>My philosophy of life is to get attached to the wonderful things on our
>planet, especially other people, I suppose, but to be able to give them
>up when they disappear, or when we, ourselves, turn to dust.
That sounds suspiciously like something a Buddhist would say. To ease
the pain when the inevitable happens, imagine them dead already and
the effects that'll follow. This will ease the suffering when it
actually happens because you've had a trial run. It works well with
late phone/power/other phone bills too.
-gj