Gribble, Lusk and York

[PaulH]

Hi Folks,

this past weekend a friend mentioned that other recordings of Gribble,
Lusk and York exist in addition to those available on the 'Altamont'
CD. Is that true and if so what are they? Does anyone have a complete
list of the recordings made by this trio and/or a suggestion of how I
might get a hold of their other recordings?

Also, are there other recordings of Frazier & Patterson besides those
on the 'Altamont' and Document Records "Black Fiddlers" CDs?

Thanks for any help you can provide. What an incredible group of
musicians!

Paul

[bosco]

Rounder CD "Deep River of Song: Black Appalachia" has Chiristmas Eve,
Give the Fiddler a Drum and the 8th of January by GL&Y.
Bosco

[vagabond9]

John Lusk, Murphy Gribble, Albert York:
1946
8506A- Rolling River
8506B- New Five Cents
8507A- Altamont
8507B- Across the Sea
8508A- Unknwn breakdown tune [Dance All Night]
8508B- Pateroller'l Catch You
8509A- Johnson's Girl
8509B- Smoke Behind the Clouds
8510A- Sambo, or Old Time Fire in the Mountain
8510B- Apple Blossom
8511A- Christmas Eve
8511B- Eighth of January
8512A- Old Sage Friend
8513A- Rabbit in the Brush
8513B- Running in the White Oaks
8514A- Billy in the Lowground
8514B- Broke Legged Chicken
8515A- Cincinnati
8515B- Billy in the Lowground (2nd Vers.)
----1949-------
unnamed [Old Joe, Where'd You Get Your Religion?]
Altamont (band)
Altamont (Gribble only)
Altamont (Lusk only)
Running Through the White Oaks
fiddle tunings
Sambo or Old Time Fire in the Mountain
Apple Blossom
unnamed
banjo tunings
Billy in the Lowground
unnamed [Wagoner]
unnamed "Raggy" tune
"Rag" [York only]
Pateroller'll Get You
Introductions

The 1949 recordings on a wire recorder are AFS 23,156

All can be ordered from the Archive of Folk Culture, Library of
Congress.

John Lusk was recorded in 1964 by Ralph Rinzler and these recording are
in the Rinzler Collection at the Smithsonian's archives. Some are solo
and some have his son backing him on guitar. Murphy Gribble had died in
1950.

All of the existing recordings of Frazier and Patterson are heard on
the Altamont and the Document Black Fiddlers set, however, the
truncated track of their "Fisher's Hornpipe" found on the Document set
does exist in full-lenth (between 2 and 3 minutes I believe) and will
be issued soon on the Smithsonian Folkways lable with the second volume
of the Black Banjo Songsters series produced by Cece Conway and Scott
Odell.

Relating to Bosco's post, the title Give the Fiddler A Dram was not
what LG&Y called the piece, they had no name for it, so someone at the
LC or Rounder or perhaps the Lomax Archive must have appended that
title. I think that is what Bruce Molsky had been informally calling it
when he played or taught it, and indeed it is in that tune family.

I hope this post helps...
Kerry

[squirre...@gmail.com]

"Fisher's Hornpipe" found on the Document set
does exist in full-lenth (between 2 and 3 minutes I believe) and will
be issued soon"

This is the best news I've heard all day! The truncated version
maddeningly ends before they get all the way thru the tune once...

[PaulH]

Kerry & Bosco,

thanks for the info.

Take care,
Paul

[bosco]

>Give the Fiddler a Drum

Yes,I know, I know, it's a "Dram". Somehow, I never spell it right.
Bosco

[vagabond9]

F&Ps Fisher's...
I clocked the fragment at about 22 seconds, which ends just as the
finished the first part, before even a note of the second part. Wait'll
you hear the whole damn thing... Frazier both clawhammers and
fingerpicks and uses every tool in his vast arsenal of dynamics,
Patterson's fiddling is powerful relentless...

Allen Hart and I played our interpretation a year ago at the Black
Banjo Then and Now conference in Boone, NC.

-K

[Bill Martin]

> John Lusk was recorded in 1964 by Ralph Rinzler and
> these recording are in the Rinzler Collection at the Smithsonian's
> archives. Some are solo and some have his son backing
> him on guitar.

Wow! Kerry, can Rinzler's recordings be bought from the Smithsonian?

Bill

[Heath Curdts]

Hereąs a remarkable clip recently posted to the BlackBanjo group. It's from
a South African documentary called łKaroo Kitaar Blues.˛

(needs hi-speed connection with sound turned on)...
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2006/05/teaspoon2.mpg

The performer is Hannes Coetzee, an aloe tapper and self-taught musician
from Herbertsdale in the Klein Karoo.

Here's a link to the documentary...
http://www.filmakers.com/indivs/KarooKitaar.htm

and the website of David Kramer, one of the filmmakers...
http://tinyurl.com/pgqu9

Haven't found any other source for the documentary, which is a bit pricey.
If anyone knows of a better source, please post.

Best,

Heath

[Dave Douglass]

What a slick way to get high notes while maintaining down the neck
chords! Strange looking but, hey.

Dave

[hucktunes™ ©]

Yeah, that's a really great video.
Dave Douglass wrote:
> Heath Curdts wrote:
> > Here¹s a remarkable clip recently posted to the BlackBanjo group. It's from
> > a South African documentary called ³Karoo Kitaar Blues.²

[PaulH]

Hi Folks,

just found a cheaper option online for purchasing the DVD (CDs of
selections from the documentary are also available): www.kalahari.net.
The cost for the DVD in U.S. dollars before shipping is $22.71.

Thanks for this initial post. What a fabulous clip. I have contacted a
couple of the independent film houses here in Chicago with the hopes
that one of them might consider showing it.

Paul

[hucktunes™ ©]

I've posted the clip on a google page, as well as some others.
http://twistedgeezer.googlepages.com/twistedflicks