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CONSTANTIN MARCOU

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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Gddecker wrote:
>
> In article <337AC9...@earthlink.net>, CONSTANTIN MARCOU
> <conm...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > some dude named Frederick Fennell
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Frederick Fennell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Some dude????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Mr. Fennell is only considered one of the few "fathers" of wind playing in
> the U.S. and, for that matter, around the world!
>
> You ARE kidding, aren't you? I don't think Don Patterson ever conducts
> them but maybe so. Though, he IS one of their trombonists if I remember
> correctly


This is actually getting to be quite funny. Since this posting is
fairly representative of many private messages I've received, I'll use
it as the platform for my response:

No, I wasn't kidding; I was dead serious. I was genuinely excited to
hear on the readio a group that one of our regular contributors performs
in. On the other hand, I have never been a big follower of band music
(although this "Toccata Marziale" goes a long way toward changing my
attitude) and had thus never heard of Frederick Fennell.

The reaction from this group has been most educational and edifying and
is, as far as I am concerned, a perfect example of the benefits
available from participation in this kind of electronic international
dialog.

Best regards,
Con

Abe.L...@signature.below.d

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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In article <337AC9...@earthlink.net>, conm...@earthlink.net wrote:
>Hey guys! I was driving home from an appearance today, listening to
>"Performance Today" on NPR, and they broadcast the US Marine Band ("The
>President's Own") playing Vaughan Williams' "Toccata Marziale." They
>were sounding GOOD. Lots of round, full tones and no annoying
>brassiness! I was impressed! (Of course it _was_ just my car radio.)
>The only problem was the conductor: some dude named Frederick Fennell.
>Who is this guy? What happened to Don Patterson?

Frederick Fennell is a well-know band conductor. He made millions upon
millions of recordings on Mercury with the Eastman Wind Ensemble.

John

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Alan Swindells

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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In article <337AC9...@earthlink.net>, CONSTANTIN MARCOU
<conm...@earthlink.net> wrote:


> Hey guys! I was driving home from an appearance today, listening to
> "Performance Today" on NPR, and they broadcast the US Marine Band ("The
> President's Own") playing Vaughan Williams' "Toccata Marziale." They
> were sounding GOOD. Lots of round, full tones and no annoying
> brassiness! I was impressed! (Of course it _was_ just my car radio.)
> The only problem was the conductor: some dude named Frederick Fennell.
> Who is this guy? What happened to Don Patterson?


Some up and coming young guy! I expect we shall hear more of him,
sometime.

:-)


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Eric Schissel

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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In article <5lilsr$5...@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net>,

<Abe.L...@signature.below.d> wrote:
>
>Frederick Fennell is a well-know band conductor. He made millions upon
>millions of recordings on Mercury with the Eastman Wind Ensemble.


Now he makes recordings for Kosei, IIRC. A recent one coupled
Miaskovskii's 19th symphony with a band arrangement of Shostakovich's 5th.
(The Miaskovskii, not one of his better works IMHO but still quite
enjoyable, is already for band.)

(I am not sure this disk is already out, though it is listed on OCLC. So
are some other materials not yet released, though.)
-Eric Schissel

>
>John

Brendan R. Wehrung

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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(Abe.L...@signature.below.d) writes:


> In article <337AC9...@earthlink.net>, conm...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>Hey guys! I was driving home from an appearance today, listening to
>>"Performance Today" on NPR, and they broadcast the US Marine Band ("The
>>President's Own") playing Vaughan Williams' "Toccata Marziale." They
>>were sounding GOOD. Lots of round, full tones and no annoying
>>brassiness! I was impressed! (Of course it _was_ just my car radio.)
>>The only problem was the conductor: some dude named Frederick Fennell.
>>Who is this guy? What happened to Don Patterson?
>

> Frederick Fennell is a well-know band conductor. He made millions upon
> millions of recordings on Mercury with the Eastman Wind Ensemble.
>

No, we WISH he had made millions and millions of recordings. Mercury has
sold millions of copies of those prescious few recordings--of which we
wish there were more.

Brendan Wehrung

John Bodnar

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Brendan R. Wehrung wrote:
> >
> > Frederick Fennell is a well-know band conductor. He made millions upon
> > millions of recordings on Mercury with the Eastman Wind Ensemble.
> >
>
> No, we WISH he had made millions and millions of recordings. Mercury has
> sold millions of copies of those prescious few recordings--of which we
> wish there were more.

Actually, besides his Tokyo Kosei Wind Ensemble recordings (which are
next
to impossible to get in the U.S. because of poor distribution), his
recordings with the Dallas Wind Symphony are the only other ones we
really
have. Fortunately, these have been nothing short of outstanding, both
artistically and sonically. I think my favorite to date has been the
"Beachcomber" encores CD.

BTW, there are other assorted Fennell recordings. In 1995, Fennell was
the
conductor of the Texas All-State Symphonic Band. His concert with them
is
available on Mark Custom Recordings MCD-1731 (along with performances by
Anthony Maiello and the Texas All-State Concert Band).

Together they play several works, but the piece de resistance is the
band
transcription of Respighi's "Pines of Rome." To put it midly, the
recording
of this should shake your speakers to the floor (well, maybe I'm
exaggerating
a little, but it sure seems that way when you crank up the sound). Best
of
all, although most of the students involved probably won't realize it
until
later than life, they had a chance to perform under the greatest band
conductor ever. That would certainly be quite a memory.

John Bodnar (jwbo...@bigfoot.com)

Fred Goldrich

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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In article <337D3D...@bigfoot.com>,
John Bodnar <jwbo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>BTW, there are other assorted Fennell recordings...

Back in the 60s, he had a *spectacular* recording
of the Dvorak Op. 44 Serenade. I'm always tempted to
bring it up when the all-time classic thread surfaces,
but I have no idea whether it is currently available.

Does anyone know?

-- Fred Goldrich


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Grover.C...@signature.below.d

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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He made _one_ recording on Telarc with the Cleveland Orchestra winds and fill
ins that can still be found.

Eric Schissel

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Sorry- thought Kosei was the record label, not the wind ensemble's name...
I knew once...
-Eric Schissel


Don Patterson

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Fred Goldrich wrote:
>
> In article <337D3D...@bigfoot.com>,
> John Bodnar <jwbo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >
> >BTW, there are other assorted Fennell recordings...
>
> Back in the 60s, he had a *spectacular* recording
> of the Dvorak Op. 44 Serenade. I'm always tempted to
> bring it up when the all-time classic thread surfaces,
> but I have no idea whether it is currently available.
>
> Does anyone know?
>

I've never even known of this rec. Would love to see a reissue.
What label was it on? Perhaps the company could persuaded...
(Yeah, right.)

--
Don Patterson <don...@erols.com>
"The President's Own"
United States Marine Band

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The views expressed are my own and in no way reflect
those of the U.S. Marine Band or the Marine Corps.

Don Patterson

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Fred Goldrich wrote:
>
> In article <337D3D...@bigfoot.com>,
> John Bodnar <jwbo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >
> >BTW, there are other assorted Fennell recordings...
>
> Back in the 60s, he had a *spectacular* recording
> of the Dvorak Op. 44 Serenade. I'm always tempted to
> bring it up when the all-time classic thread surfaces,
> but I have no idea whether it is currently available.
>

Sounds very appropriate to be included in the Classical Hall of Fame.
I'll repost.

Don Patterson

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Actually three LPs for Telarc with the Cleveland Symphonic Winds.
The first, including the Holst Suites, Bach's Fantasia in G, and
Handel's Royal Fireworks, is a real gas. The Handel, in spite
of its inauthenticity, puts all others to shame.

Hall of Fame material. Think I'll post it.

Don Patterson

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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You were quite correct, Eric. The ensemble named its label after
itself.

Don Patterson

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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Grover.C...@signature.below.d wrote:
>
>
> He made _one_ recording on Telarc with the Cleveland Orchestra winds and fill
> ins that can still be found.

Actually three LPs for Telarc with the Cleveland Symphonic Winds.
The first, including the Holst Suites, Bach's Fantasia in G, and
Handel's Royal Fireworks, is a real gas. The Handel, in spite
of its inauthenticity, puts all others to shame.

Hall of Fame material. Think I'll post it.

--

John Bodnar

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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Don Patterson wrote:

>
> Fred Goldrich wrote:
> >
> > In article <337D3D...@bigfoot.com>,
> > John Bodnar <jwbo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >BTW, there are other assorted Fennell recordings...
> >
> > Back in the 60s, he had a *spectacular* recording
> > of the Dvorak Op. 44 Serenade. I'm always tempted to
> > bring it up when the all-time classic thread surfaces,
> > but I have no idea whether it is currently available.
> >
>
> Sounds very appropriate to be included in the Classical Hall of Fame.
> I'll repost.

I think that Philips has re-released this on the Mercury label, but I
haven't seen it any time in recent memory, and I probably ought to kick
myself for not grabbing it if they really did re-release it.

John Bodnar (jwbo...@bigfoot.com)

John Bodnar

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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Don Patterson wrote:
>
> > He made _one_ recording on Telarc with the Cleveland Orchestra winds and fill
> > ins that can still be found.
>
> Actually three LPs for Telarc with the Cleveland Symphonic Winds.
> The first, including the Holst Suites, Bach's Fantasia in G, and
> Handel's Royal Fireworks, is a real gas. The Handel, in spite
> of its inauthenticity, puts all others to shame.

Oh yeah. I forgot about these. Somewhat disappointing is that they
released
everything on the LPs on two CDs, except for the Toccata Marziale, which
knowing
Fennell was probably stellar. There's room on either of the two CDs for
this,
so something else must've prevented them from doing it.

And the Handel is stunning. What's really strange is how much it sounds
like what the original must've sounded like. Hyperion CDA66350 has this
along
with the Four Coronation Anthems performed by the Choir of New College -
Oxford
and King's Consort with Robert King conducting.

The performance uses period instruments with the original wind
instrumentation,
i.e. natural trumpets, calf-skin drums, serpents, old double reeds and
all.
Despite all the additions to the modern wind ensemble (clarinets,
flutes,
trombones, etc.) that Sir Charles Mackerras takes advantage of in the
band
transcription, it's not all that unlike the period performance,
surprisingly.

Anyway, I'll take an army of double reeds fingering madly through the
runs in
the overture over strings any day :-)

John Bodnar (jwbo...@bigfoot.com)

P.S. If you have the Hyperion CD (CDA66350), you might want to check it
for
bronzing. I just took a look at mine today, and it's afflicted. Looks
like
I'll need to call or FAX Philips DuPont Optical in the UK to get it
replaced.

Gddecker

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May 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/19/97
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In article <337AC9...@earthlink.net>, CONSTANTIN MARCOU
<conm...@earthlink.net> writes:

> some dude named Frederick Fennell

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Frederick Fennell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some dude????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Fennell is only considered one of the few "fathers" of wind playing in
the U.S. and, for that matter, around the world!

You ARE kidding, aren't you? I don't think Don Patterson ever conducts
them but maybe so. Though, he IS one of their trombonists if I remember
correctly

Mr. Fennell is in his 80s now and still going strong. He lives in
Cleveland and Florida, his wife owns Ludwig Music (her name is Catherine
Ludwig Fennell), and he founded the Eastman Wind Ensemble at the Eastman
School in Rochester, NY. I had the wonderful opportunity to work with him
at the University of Kansas and interviewed him several years ago when he
released his 5 disc set of marches from around the world titled "March
World" and released by Brain International.

I hope he continues to go from strength to strength for he is a joy to
work with, hear and see performances by and has done a lot for the march
in music. In his interview, he said that he didn't really redo the
marches in the March World set, rather, he simply saw that many were
republished on full-size paper in full-size manuscript with proper
markings and tempo indications. He said that he was tired of the march
being looked down upon and said that this was partly because of the little
pieces of difficult to read paper on which they are frequently printed.
Musicians look at these little pieces of paper and don't take what's on
them seriously.

Geoffrey Decker

Fred Goldrich

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May 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/19/97
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In article <19970519050...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,

Gddecker <gdde...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Mr. Fennell is in his 80s now and still going strong. He lives in
>Cleveland and Florida, his wife owns Ludwig Music (her name is Catherine
>Ludwig Fennell)...

Elizabeth, yes?


--
Fred Goldrich
gold...@panix.com

Gddecker

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May 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/20/97
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In article <5lpceu$i...@panix.com>, gold...@panix.com (Fred Goldrich)
writes:

>Elizabeth, yes?

Maybe Elizabeth but I think it's Catherine. Wouldn't bet money on it.

Geoffrey Decker

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