Surge protectors
NB
to listen to classical music?
Jim
"NB" <nobu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a05b9cbb-788a-4d52...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Do you use a surge protector/supressor for the equipment that you use
> to listen to classical music?
Jim
NB
> "NB" <nobuy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a05b9cbb-788a-4d52...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...> Do you use a surge protector/supressor for the equipment that you use
> > to listen to classical music?
>
> No. I do unplug it from the wall when bad storms are about.
Can you recommend a good surge suppressor/protector for me to use
while I listen to classical music?
lav...@altavista.com
I am using an old APC UPS, originally purchased as a power backup for
my computer and replaced by a newer one, after I installed new
batteries in it. Beside providing the power backup it also acts as a
surge protector. For a while I was concerned that its square wave
output might cause some damage, but it has been working now for a long
time without any noticeable problems.
tho...@antispam.ham
> I am using an old APC UPS, originally purchased as a power backup for
> my computer and replaced by a newer one, after I installed new
> batteries in it. Beside providing the power backup it also acts as a
> surge protector. For a while I was concerned that its square wave
> output might cause some damage, but it has been working now for a long
> time without any noticeable problems.
It only outputs a square wave when operating on battery, which are
supposed to be rare occurrences.
lav...@altavista.com
I hope that you are right.
At the time when this UPS was still in use for powering my PC, I tried
to use its power to light an LCD light bulb. Since these lightbulbs
died out very fast, I inquired about the problem in an electronic
newsgroup. The response there was that the UPS square wave output was
to blame. The problem occurred even when the household power was
flowing smoothly and no power failures took place.
Now, who am I supposed to believe?
tho...@antispam.ham
>>> I am using an old APC UPS, originally purchased as a power backup for
>>> my computer and replaced by a newer one, after I installed new
>>> batteries in it. Beside providing the power backup it also acts as a
>>> surge protector. For a while I was concerned that its square wave
>>> output might cause some damage, but it has been working now for a long
>>> time without any noticeable problems.
>> It only outputs a square wave when operating on battery, which are
>> supposed to be rare occurrences.
> I hope that you are right.
Presumably you know how often the power goes out, thus forcing the UPS
on battery.
> At the time when this UPS was still in use for powering my PC, I tried
> to use its power to light an LCD light bulb.
I don't know what an "LCD light bulb" is. Are you thinking of a CFL
or an LED?
> Since these lightbulbs
> died out very fast, I inquired about the problem in an electronic
> newsgroup. The response there was that the UPS square wave output was
> to blame. The problem occurred even when the household power was
> flowing smoothly and no power failures took place.
>
> Now, who am I supposed to believe?
Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
Information Security
>
> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
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tho...@antispam.ham
>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
music.
Of course, considering nobuyout's history, one can question whether
that was his true motivation.
Information Security
> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> >> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
> >> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
> >> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
> >> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>
> > What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>
> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
> music.
You are incredibly gullible, David Tholen.
This apparently opens up a whole new class of posts
that you can't query whether or not are group-related.
lav...@altavista.com
This was a typo. I meant LED.
OK. I know that household power is sinusoidal. I was trying to be
cautious because of my bad experience. Basically, I read you saying
that there is no reason for caution is this respect. I hope that you
are right.
lav...@altavista.com
NB
> Information Security <Harvey_M...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
> >> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
> >> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
> >> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
> >> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
> > What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>
> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
> music.
He asked what "your post" had to do with classical music, Tholen, and
given that your post did not mention "classical music", your post did
not have anything to do with classical music, Tholen.
>
> Of course, considering nobuyout's history, one can question whether
> that was his true motivation.
Classic pointless statement from Tholen, given that one can question
my motivation even if he/she does not consider my history.
Allen
sense. It would be more expensive (and probably make the devices bigger)
to build in a sine wave converter. However, my good old APC has saved me
several times, and as far as I can tell, the square waves have caused no
damage. _And_ I have never lost anything because of a power failure
since I first started using UPSs more years ago than I can remember
offhand. However, mine keeps repeated that the battery is of that
certain age and should be replaced; however, it's underpowered for the
stuff that's running on it, so I probably will get a bigger one. Now, if
we just had some kind of surge protector in Washington...but that's even
farther OT.
Allen
tho...@antispam.ham
> David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>> music.
> You are incredibly gullible, David Tholen.
Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.
> This apparently opens up a whole new class of posts
> that you can't query whether or not are group-related.
What appears to you is irrelevant, Harvey_Mars. Of course, you are
free to step into what you consider to be a void.
tho...@antispam.ham
I don't know of any LEDs that run on AC. I do know of LEDs that run on
DC, however, so if you had an LED light bulb fail because of square wave
AC, then it's more likely the failure was in the AC to DC adaptor.
> OK. I know that household power is sinusoidal. I was trying to be
> cautious because of my bad experience. Basically, I read you saying
> that there is no reason for caution is this respect. I hope that you
> are right.
There is reason for caution. Not all power supplies are designed to
deal with square wave AC. But the point is that when the AC is alive,
your UPS is almost certainly providing sine-wave line AC to its outlets,
not the square wave output you get when it is forced on battery.
tho...@antispam.ham
>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> wrote:
>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.=
>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen? =A0
>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>> music.
> He asked what "your post" had to do with classical music, Tholen,
And I answered the question, nobuyout, which you would know by now if
you had better reading comprehension skills.
> and
> given that your post did not mention "classical music", your post did
> not have anything to do with classical music, Tholen.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>> Of course, considering nobuyout's history, one can question whether
>> that was his true motivation.
> Classic pointless statement from Tholen, given that one can question
> my motivation even if he/she does not consider my history.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
tho...@antispam.ham
> lav...@altavista.com wrote:
APC Back-UPS units put out square waves. APC Smart-UPS units put out
sine waves. The latter are more expensive.
> However, my good old APC has saved me
> several times, and as far as I can tell, the square waves have caused no
> damage. _And_ I have never lost anything because of a power failure
> since I first started using UPSs more years ago than I can remember
> offhand. However, mine keeps repeated that the battery is of that
> certain age and should be replaced; however, it's underpowered for the
> stuff that's running on it, so I probably will get a bigger one. Now, if
> we just had some kind of surge protector in Washington...but that's even
> farther OT.
Consider APC's Trade-UPS program.
marika
"Allen" <al...@nothere.net> wrote in message
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> I wasn't aware that the APC devices put out square waves, but it makes
> sense. It would be more expensive (and probably make the devices bigger)
> to build in a sine wave converter.
the size does not matter but those pulsating waves are hot, really exciting
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Art Deco
>On May 1, 5:37 pm, tho...@antispam.ham wrote:
>> lav...@altavista.com writes:
>> > I am using an old APC UPS, originally purchased as a power backup for
>> > my computer and replaced by a newer one, after I installed new
>> > batteries in it. Beside providing the power backup it also acts as a
>> > surge protector. For a while I was concerned that its square wave
>> > output might cause some damage, but it has been working now for a long
>> > time without any noticeable problems.
UPSs also need to have their batteries replaced on a regular schedule.
>>
>> It only outputs a square wave when operating on battery, which are
>> supposed to be rare occurrences.
Buy a decent UPS.
>
>
>I hope that you are right.
>
>At the time when this UPS was still in use for powering my PC, I tried
>to use its power to light an LCD light bulb. Since these lightbulbs
>died out very fast, I inquired about the problem in an electronic
>newsgroup. The response there was that the UPS square wave output was
>to blame. The problem occurred even when the household power was
>flowing smoothly and no power failures took place.
>
>Now, who am I supposed to believe?
That guy was just guessing and tossing out the first thing that crossed
his mind -- there could be lots of reasons. A definitive answer would
need knowledge of the complete systems.
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should be your concern, Deco."
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Information Security
> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> > David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>
> >> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> >>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
> >>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
> >>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
> >>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>
> >>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>
> >> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
> >> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
> >> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
> >> music.
>
> > You are incredibly gullible, David Tholen.
>
You are David Tholen. Do you deny being David Tholen?
What a dumbass, asking who you are!
Art Deco
>lav...@altavista.com writes:
>
>>>> I am using an old APC UPS, originally purchased as a power backup for
>>>> my computer and replaced by a newer one, after I installed new
>>>> batteries in it. Beside providing the power backup it also acts as a
>>>> surge protector. For a while I was concerned that its square wave
>>>> output might cause some damage, but it has been working now for a long
>>>> time without any noticeable problems.
>
>>> It only outputs a square wave when operating on battery, which are
>>> supposed to be rare occurrences.
>
>> I hope that you are right.
>
>Presumably you know how often the power goes out, thus forcing the UPS
>on battery.
They are called random events, Tholen.
>
>> At the time when this UPS was still in use for powering my PC, I tried
>> to use its power to light an LCD light bulb.
>
>I don't know what an "LCD light bulb" is. Are you thinking of a CFL
>or an LED?
>
>> Since these lightbulbs
>> died out very fast, I inquired about the problem in an electronic
>> newsgroup. The response there was that the UPS square wave output was
>> to blame. The problem occurred even when the household power was
>> flowing smoothly and no power failures took place.
>>
>> Now, who am I supposed to believe?
>
>Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
And if the batteries are bad, never.
Art Deco
>Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
>> David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>
>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>
>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>
>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>>> music.
>
>> You are incredibly gullible, David Tholen.
>
>Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars? There is nobody in this newsgroup
>using that alias.
Who is "Harvey_Mars", Tholen? There is no one in this thread using
that alias.
>
>> This apparently opens up a whole new class of posts
>> that you can't query whether or not are group-related.
>
>What appears to you is irrelevant, Harvey_Mars. Of course, you are
>free to step into what you consider to be a void.
I see you are as antagonistic as always, Tholen.
Art Deco
>NB <nobu...@gmail.com> writes:
Tholen removed himself from the attributions here. Obviously he
doesn't want to leave tracks while he antagonizes newsgroups.
>
>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> wrote:
>
>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.=
>
>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen? =A0
>
>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>>> music.
>
>> He asked what "your post" had to do with classical music, Tholen,
>
>And I answered the question, nobuyout, which you would know by now if
>you had better reading comprehension skills.
Another example where Tholen's sophistry and verbal gymnastics lets him
claim his antagonistic posts are on-topic merely because he put the
words "classical music" into his net.kkkop routine.
>
>> and
>> given that your post did not mention "classical music", your post did
>> not have anything to do with classical music, Tholen.
>
>Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Classic pontification.
>
>>> Of course, considering nobuyout's history, one can question whether
>>> that was his true motivation.
>
>> Classic pointless statement from Tholen, given that one can question
>> my motivation even if he/she does not consider my history.
>
>Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Classic evasion of the point.
tho...@antispam.ham
>>> David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>>>> music.
>>> You are incredibly gullible, David Tholen.
>> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
> You are David Tholen.
On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> Do you deny being David Tholen?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> What a dumbass, asking who you are!
Classic erroneous presupposition.
Information Security
> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> >>> David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>
> >>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> >>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
> >>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
> >>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
> >>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>
> >>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>
> >>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
> >>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
> >>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
> >>>> music.
>
> >>> You are incredibly gullible, David Tholen.
>
> >> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
You are David Tholon, Tholen.
> > You are David Tholen.
>
> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
You post under your own name, 'Tholen.' You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
demonstrating that you are indeed the University of Hawaii's professor
David Tholen.
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
>
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
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tho...@antispam.ham
>>>>> David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>>>>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>>>>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>>>>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>>>>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>>>>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>>>>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>>>>>> music.
>>>>> You are incredibly gullible, David Tholen.
>>>> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
> You are David Tholon, Tholen.
Non sequitur.
>>> You are David Tholen.
>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
> demonstrating that you are indeed the University of Hawaii's professor
> David Tholen.
On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
Art Deco
You removed yourself from the attributions again, Tholen.
tho...@antispam.ham
> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> wrote:
>>>>>>> David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>>>>>>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>> Non sequitur.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
Art Deco
>Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> writes:
>
>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
Response.
--
tho...@antispam.ham
> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
> Response.
I see that you didn't answer the question, Deco. No surprise there,
really.
Art Deco
>Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> writes:
>
>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
Because you remove "tho...@antispam.ham wrote:" from the tops of your
posts, I have to change them to something that causes you to whine
about "attribution problems" so that other people can see to whom I'm
replying, Tholen.
But you do seem to enjoy typing "still suffering from attribution
problems" a great deal, seeing that you've posted this particular
phrase about a zillion times.
>
>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>
>> Response.
>
>I see that you didn't answer the question, Deco.
I see that you didn't like my answer, Tholen. Ask me if I care.
>No surprise there,
>really.
Non sequitur.
It is easy to demonstrate and substantiate that you routinely remove
"tho...@antispam.ham wrote:" from the tops of your posts. It is also
funny to see you lie and deny having done so when this behavior is
identified, as you have just done here.
tho...@antispam.ham
> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
> Because you remove "tho...@antispam.ham wrote:" from the tops of your
> posts,
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> I have to change them to something that causes you to whine
> about "attribution problems" so that other people can see to whom I'm
> replying, Tholen.
Classic illogic on your part, Deco. Classic rationalization of
your attribution problems.
> But you do seem to enjoy typing "still suffering from attribution
> problems" a great deal,
What seems to you is irrelevant, Deco.
> seeing that you've posted this particular
> phrase about a zillion times.
Classic hallucination on your part, Deco.
>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>> Response.
>> I see that you didn't answer the question, Deco.
> I see that you didn't like my answer, Tholen.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
> Ask me if I care.
What would such a question have to do with college basketball, Deco?
>> No surprise there, really.
> Non sequitur.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> David Tholen, Asstronomer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>>>>>> Non sequitur.
>>>>>>>>> You are David Tholen.
>>>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
> It is also
> funny to see you lie and deny having done so when this behavior is
> identified, as you have just done here.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
Art Deco
>Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> writes:
>
>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>
>> Because you remove "tho...@antispam.ham wrote:" from the tops of your
>> posts, I have to change them to something that causes you to whine
>> about "attribution problems" so that other people can see to whom I'm
>> replying, Tholen.
>>
>> But you do seem to enjoy typing "still suffering from attribution
>> problems" a great deal, seeing that you've posted this particular
>> phrase about a zillion times.
Note: no response.
>
>>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>
>>>> Response.
>
>>> I see that you didn't answer the question, Deco.
>
>> I see that you didn't like my answer, Tholen.
>
>Classic erroneous presupposition.
So you did like my answer then.
tho...@antispam.ham
> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>> Because you remove "tho...@antispam.ham wrote:" from the tops of your
>>> posts, I have to change them to something that causes you to whine
>>> about "attribution problems" so that other people can see to whom I'm
>>> replying, Tholen.
>>>
>>> But you do seem to enjoy typing "still suffering from attribution
>>> problems" a great deal, seeing that you've posted this particular
>>> phrase about a zillion times.
> Note: no response.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>>>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>>>> Response.
>>>> I see that you didn't answer the question, Deco.
>>> I see that you didn't like my answer, Tholen.
>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
> So you did like my answer then.
Classic erroneous presupposition coupled with classic illogic on your
part, Deco.
Harvey Mars
address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
>
> > You are David Tholon, Tholen.
>
> Non sequitur.
In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
> > You are David Tholen.
>
> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>
> > You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
> > You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
> > You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
> > demonstrating that you are indeed the
> > University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>
> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
Nslookup, for starters.
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>
> > Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
>
> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
A question is not a claim. Do you deny being David Tholen?
tho...@antispam.ham
> "David Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
> address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
Also suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars?
>> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> You are David Tholon, Tholen.
>> Non sequitur.
> In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>> You are David Tholen.
>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
>>> You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
>>> You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
>>> demonstrating that you are indeed the
>>> University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> Nslookup, for starters.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> A question is not a claim.
Irrelevant, given that I never claimed otherwise, Harvey_Mars.
Harvey Mars
http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/faculty/tholen/
#
# Asteroid number 3255 was named Tholen in recognition
# of my contributions to the field of planetary science
----
"David Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote: wrote:
> Harvey Mars <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
>
> > You are David Tholon, Tholen.
>
> Non sequitur.
>
> > In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
>
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
What does your question have to do with alt.astronomy, Tholen?
>
> > You are David Tholen.
>
> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>
> > You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
> > You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
> > You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
> > demonstrating that you are indeed the
> > University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>
> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>
> > Nslookup, for starters.
>
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
>
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Do you deny being David Tholen?
> > Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
>
> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>
> > A question is not a claim.
>
> Irrelevant, given that I never claimed otherwise, Harvey_Mars.
What?
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
>
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Do you deny being David J. Tholen?
--
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http://the-world-body.org/
http://psychotic-karin-kaufman.org/
http://blog.probing-blog.com/
http://journals.aol.com/cyphernetcop/harvey-mars-karin-kaufman/
http://harvey-mars.com/
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world-body,word-body.org,white-diamond.com,sameseeds-differentwinds.org,
jug o nuts,jugonuts.com,jugonuts,sagegroup,kaufman
organization,sage realty,kaufman.org, melvyn kaufman,william
kaufman,kim kaufman,june metz,montez davidson, Moinuddin
Sarker,Moin Sarker,Natural State Research,same seeds,
different winds, naturalstateresearch.com,msa...@naturalstateresearch.com,
Pushpendra Kumar, Binay Kumar,moinuddinfoundation.org,nkwebtechnology.com,
Moinuddin Sarker Foundation, msar...@naturalstateresearch.com
,msa...@optonline.net,sarkermmyahoo.com, kaufman
tho...@antispam.ham
> Note:
> # Asteroid number 3255 was named Tholen in recognition
> # of my contributions to the field of planetary science
What does that have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> "David Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
> address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote: wrote:
Still suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars?
>> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> You are David Tholon, Tholen.
>> Non sequitur.
Note: no response.
>>> In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> What does your question have to do with alt.astronomy, Tholen?
I see that you didn't answer the question, Harvey_Mars. No surprise
there, really.
>>> You are David Tholen.
>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
>>> You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
>>> You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
>>> demonstrating that you are indeed the
>>> University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> Nslookup, for starters.
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Note: no response.
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> Do you deny being David Tholen?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>> Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> A question is not a claim.
>> Irrelevant, given that I never claimed otherwise, Harvey_Mars.
> What?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> Do you deny being David J. Tholen?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Art Deco
>Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> writes:
>
>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
Asked and answered, Tholen.
>
>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>
>>>> Because you remove "tho...@antispam.ham wrote:" from the tops of your
>>>> posts, I have to change them to something that causes you to whine
>>>> about "attribution problems" so that other people can see to whom I'm
>>>> replying, Tholen.
>>>>
>>>> But you do seem to enjoy typing "still suffering from attribution
>>>> problems" a great deal, seeing that you've posted this particular
>>>> phrase about a zillion times.
>
>> Note: no response.
>
Note: still no response.
>
>>>>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>
>>>>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>
>>>>>> Response.
>
>>>>> I see that you didn't answer the question, Deco.
>
>>>> I see that you didn't like my answer, Tholen.
>
>>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>
>> So you did like my answer then.
>
>Classic erroneous presupposition coupled with classic illogic on your
>part, Deco.
"attribution and grammar problems" are not listed in the DSM, Tholen.
Art Deco
>Harvey Mars <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>What does that have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars? Still
>suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars? Note: no
>response. Note: no response. I see that you didn't answer the
>question, Harvey_Mars. No surprise there, really. Note: no
>response. Note: no response. Note: no response. What does your
>question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars? Note: no
>response. What does your question have to do with classical music,
>Harvey_Mars? What does your question have to do with classical
>music, Harvey_Mars?
Tholen uses cream cheese to slap another antagonist down to size!
tho...@antispam.ham
> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
> Asked and answered, Tholen.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>>>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>>>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>>>> Because you remove "tho...@antispam.ham wrote:" from the tops of your
>>>>> posts, I have to change them to something that causes you to whine
>>>>> about "attribution problems" so that other people can see to whom I'm
>>>>> replying, Tholen.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you do seem to enjoy typing "still suffering from attribution
>>>>> problems" a great deal, seeing that you've posted this particular
>>>>> phrase about a zillion times.
>>> Note: no response.
> Note: still no response.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>>>>>>>>> :nelohT, "tho...@antispam.ham" as posting
>>>>>>>> Still suffering from attribution and grammar problems, Deco?
>>>>>>> Response.
>>>>>> I see that you didn't answer the question, Deco.
>>>>> I see that you didn't like my answer, Tholen.
>>>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
>>> So you did like my answer then.
>> Classic erroneous presupposition coupled with classic illogic on your
>> part, Deco.
> "attribution and grammar problems" are not listed in the DSM, Tholen.
Non sequitur.
NB
> NB <nobuy...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> Information Security <Harvey_M...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> wrote:
> >>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
> >>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
> >>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
> >> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
> >> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
> >> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
> >> music.
>
> And I answered the question, nobuyout,
Your answer only talked about my post, not your post, which means you
evaded his question about your post, Tholen.
> which you would know by now if
> you had better reading comprehension skills.
Erroneous presupposition from Tholen rendered moot by Tholen's
illogic.
>
> > and
> > given that your post did not mention "classical music", your post did
> > not have anything to do with classical music, Tholen.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
>
> >> Of course, considering nobuyout's history, one can question whether
> >> that was his true motivation.
> > Classic pointless statement from Tholen, given that one can question
> > my motivation even if he/she does not consider my history.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
Hagar
"Art Deco" <er...@caballista.org> wrote in message
news:040520082049009851%er...@caballista.org...
> :nelohT
>
>>Harvey Mars <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>>What does that have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars? Still
>>suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars? Note: no
>>response. Note: no response. I see that you didn't answer the
>>question, Harvey_Mars. No surprise there, really. Note: no
>>response. Note: no response. Note: no response. What does your
>>question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars? Note: no
>>response. What does your question have to do with classical music,
>>Harvey_Mars? What does your question have to do with classical
>>music, Harvey_Mars?
>
> Tholen uses cream cheese to slap another antagonist down to size!
Are you wearing your Slurp Protector, PedoDeco ????
Tholen is rubbing you the wrong/right way; in any case,
it's fun to watch you k00kdance in vain. He's way
ahead of you and you really should have your k00kers
license revoked, you phony.
tho...@antispam.ham
>>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> wrote:
>>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>>>> music.
>>> He asked what "your post" had to do with classical music, Tholen,
>> And I answered the question, nobuyout,
> Your answer only talked about my post, not your post, which means you
> evaded his question about your post, Tholen.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
>> which you would know by now if
>> you had better reading comprehension skills.
> Erroneous presupposition from Tholen rendered moot by Tholen's
> illogic.
Classic erroneous presupposition.
>>> and
>>> given that your post did not mention "classical music", your post did
>>> not have anything to do with classical music, Tholen.
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from nobuyout.
>>>> Of course, considering nobuyout's history, one can question whether
>>>> that was his true motivation.
>>> Classic pointless statement from Tholen, given that one can question
>>> my motivation even if he/she does not consider my history.
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from nobuyout.
hones...@centurytel.net
Hagar <ha...@sahm.name> wrote in message
news:pZydnbKgaZ-z4ILV...@giganews.com...
As long as PD (Pedo Deco) keeps "servicing" Pinky Sue she'll let him run
loose!
HJ
Hagar
<hones...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:luadnTPQaptMDoLV...@centurytel.net...
For a second there I thought you were referring to the infamous PD (Pineas
Puddleduck), located at <turn on invisible print> http://www,PD.com <turn
off invisible print> somewhere in Tennessee.
Brendan R. Wehrung
Brendan
Harvey Mars
#
# Asteroid number 3255 was named Tholen in recognition
# of my contributions to the field of planetary science
----
"David J. Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
address 1505 Alexander St, Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
>
> Harvey Mars <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> > "David Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
> > address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
>
> Also suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars?
Also?
> >> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
> > You are David Tholon, Tholen.
> >> Non sequitur.
> > In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
>
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
What? Snap out of robot mode, David J. Tholen.
> > You are David Tholen.
>
> >> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> > You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
> > You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
> > You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
> > demonstrating that you are indeed the
> > University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
>
> >> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
What?
> > Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
>
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Nothing. How about you and your posts?
--
<a href="http://psychotic-karin-kaufman.org/">Harvey Mars</a>
http://cypherpunk-nyc.blogspot.com/
http://the-world-body.org/
http://psychotic-karin-kaufman.org/
http://blog.probing-blog.com/
http://journals.aol.com/cyphernetcop/harvey-mars-karin-kaufman/
http://harvey-mars.com/
psychotic karin kaufman,dr. kaufman,dr. ronald davidson,
world-body,word-body.org,white-diamond.com,sameseeds-differentwinds.org,
jug o nuts,jugonuts.com,jugonuts,sagegroup,kaufman
organization,sage realty,kaufman.org, melvyn kaufman,william
kaufman,kim kaufman,june metz,montez davidson, Moinuddin
Sarker,Moin Sarker,Natural State Research,same seeds,
different winds, naturalstateresearch.com,msa...@naturalstateresearch.com,
Pushpendra Kumar, Binay Kumar,moinuddinfoundation.org,nkwebtechnology.com,
Moinuddin Sarker Foundation,
msa...@optonline.net,sarkermmyahoo.com, kaufman
Harvey Mars
address 1505 Alexander St, Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
>
> Harvey Mars <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>
> > # of my contributions to the field of planetary science
>
> What does that have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
You're posting to alt.astronomy, Tholen.
> > "David Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
> > address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote: wrote:
>
> >> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
> > You are David Tholon, Tholen.
> >> Non sequitur.
> > In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
> >> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> > What does your question have to do with alt.astronomy, Tholen?
>
> I see that you didn't answer the question, Harvey_Mars.
Why would I want to answer a question from you?
> > You are David Tholen.
> >> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> >> You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
> >> You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
> >> You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
> >> demonstrating that you are indeed the
> >> University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>
> >> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> > Nslookup, for starters.
>
>
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
> >> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> > Do you deny being David Tholen?
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> > Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
> >> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
> > A question is not a claim.
> >> Irrelevant, given that I never claimed otherwise, Harvey_Mars.
>
> > What?
>
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
'What?' as in 'How does that answer the question put to you?' Are you David J. Tholen?
> >>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
> >> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> > Do you deny being David J. Tholen?
> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Do you deny being David J. Tholen?
--
<a href="http://psychotic-karin-kaufman.org/">Harvey Mars</a>
http://cypherpunk-nyc.blogspot.com/
http://the-world-body.org/
http://psychotic-karin-kaufman.org/
http://blog.probing-blog.com/
http://journals.aol.com/cyphernetcop/harvey-mars-karin-kaufman/
http://harvey-mars.com/
psychotic karin kaufman,dr. kaufman,dr. ronald davidson,
world-body,word-body.org,white-diamond.com,sameseeds-differentwinds.org,
jug o nuts,jugonuts.com,jugonuts,sagegroup,kaufman
organization,sage realty,kaufman.org, melvyn kaufman,william
kaufman,kim kaufman,june metz,montez davidson, Moinuddin
Sarker,Moin Sarker,Natural State Research,same seeds,
different winds, naturalstateresearch.com,msa...@naturalstateresearch.com,
Pushpendra Kumar, Binay Kumar,moinuddinfoundation.org,nkwebtechnology.com,
Moinuddin Sarker Foundation,
Steven Bornfeld
> I thought some of Norrington's first Beethoven cycle needed surge protectors.
>
> Brendan
**rim shot!**
tho...@antispam.ham
> "David J. Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
> address 1505 Alexander St, Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
Still suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars?
>>> "David Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
>>> address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
>> Also suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars?
> Also?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>>> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
>>> You are David Tholon, Tholen.
>>>> Non sequitur.
>>> In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> What?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> Snap out of robot mode, David J. Tholen.
Who is "David J. Tholen", Harvey_Mars? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.
>>> You are David Tholen.
>>>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>>> You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
>>> You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
>>> You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
>>> demonstrating that you are indeed the
>>> University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>>>
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>>>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> What?
Non sequitur.
>>> Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> Nothing.
Then why did you ask it in a classical music newsgroup, Harvey_Mars?
> How about you and your posts?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
tho...@antispam.ham
> "David J. Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
> address 1505 Alexander St, Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote:
Still suffering from attribution problems, Harvey_Mars?
>> Harvey Mars <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> writes:
>>> # Asteroid number 3255 was named Tholen in recognition
>>> # of my contributions to the field of planetary science
>> What does that have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> You're posting to alt.astronomy, Tholen.
I see that you didn't answer the question, Harvey_Mars. No surprise
there, really.
>>> "David Tholen" tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu, phone (808) 941-3552
>>> address 1505 Alexander St,Honolulu, HI 96822 wrote: wrote:
>>>> Who is "David Tholen", Harvey_Mars?
>>> You are David Tholon, Tholen.
>>>> Non sequitur.
>>> In what way was my response not related to your question, Tholen?
>>>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>> What does your question have to do with alt.astronomy, Tholen?
>> I see that you didn't answer the question, Harvey_Mars.
> Why would I want to answer a question from you?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>> You are David Tholen.
>>>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>>>> You're a well-known Usenet nutjob, a helpless trollee.
>>>> You post under your own name, 'Tholen.'
>>>> You post from a Hawaii RR IP,
>>>> demonstrating that you are indeed the
>>>> University of Hawaii's professor David Tholen.
>>>>
>>>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>>> Nslookup, for starters.
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>>>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
Note: no response.
>>> Yes or no, do you deny being David Tholen, who is interested in classical music?
>>>> On what basis do you make that claim, Harvey_Mars?
>>> A question is not a claim.
>>>> Irrelevant, given that I never claimed otherwise, Harvey_Mars.
>>> What?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> 'What?' as in 'How does that answer the question put to you?' Are you David J. Tholen?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>>>> Do you deny being David Tholen?
>>>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
>>> Do you deny being David J. Tholen?
>> What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
> Do you deny being David J. Tholen?
What does your question have to do with classical music, Harvey_Mars?
John "C"
"Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote in message
news:GfCdnaNdP7gwL4LV...@giganews.com...
It's ODD how "PDs" of a feather, Suck each other, ain't it?
HJ
NB
> >>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
> >>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
> >>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
> >>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
> >>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
> >>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
> >>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
> >>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
> >>>> music.
> >>> He asked what "your post" had to do with classical music, Tholen,
> >> And I answered the question, nobuyout,
> > Your answer only talked about my post, not your post, which means you
> > evaded his question about your post, Tholen.
>
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
>
> >> which you would know by now if
> >> you had better reading comprehension skills.
> > Erroneous presupposition from Tholen rendered moot by Tholen's
> > illogic.
>
> Classic erroneous presupposition.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
tho...@antispam.ham
>>>>>> Information Security <Harve...@Evil-Lawyer.Org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Consumer-grade UPSes are designed to quickly cut in when the power
>>>>>>>> fails. Look at the specs for the UPS and see what the transfer time
>>>>>>>> is. The presence of that stat tells you it switches from line power
>>>>>>>> to battery when the line power fails. But line power is a sine wave.
>>>>>>> What does your post have to do with classical music, Tholen?
>>>>>> If you had better reading comprehension skills, Harvey_Mars, you
>>>>>> would know that nobuyout specifically asked whether readers use a
>>>>>> surge protector/suppressor on equipment used to listen to classical
>>>>>> music.
>>>>> He asked what "your post" had to do with classical music, Tholen,
>>>> And I answered the question, nobuyout,
>>> Your answer only talked about my post, not your post, which means you
>>> evaded his question about your post, Tholen.
>> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from nobuyout.
>>>> which you would know by now if
>>>> you had better reading comprehension skills.
>>> Erroneous presupposition from Tholen rendered moot by Tholen's
>>> illogic.
>> Classic erroneous presupposition.
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from Tholen.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim from nobuyout.