Best Music for Bill Clinton's Birthday?
Jarl Sigurd
55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
what piece(s) of music would it be?
Jarl Sigurd
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MrT
55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
what piece(s) of music would it be?>>
Sigurd's song cycle, yet to be written, "To the memory of an intern";
any of Ken Lane's one-man operas.
Regards,
MrT
hamish
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David Wake
> Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
>
Maybe a Bach Passion with Monica Huggett
horizon
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
>
Roland van Gaalen
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> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
>
Nothing less than a magnificent piece of music by Handel would be
appropriate!
Cheers, and many happy returns.
--
Roland van Gaalen
Amsterdam
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Matthew B. Tepper
> Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
Aaron Copland's "A Lincoln Portrait." Lincoln was also reviled by many
during his term(s) of office.
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> Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
There's an old music hall song called:
"With The End Of My Old Cigar....Tra-la, tra-la, tra-la."
--
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John Harrington
mcarn...@nyc.rr.com wrote on 8/18/01 11:28 AM:
Yes, because Clinton is the perfect analogue to the Commendatore--done to
death by scoundrels but fated to rise again to haunt them.
John
Matthew B. Tepper
David Webber
> Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
Je ne regrette rien?
Dave
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Author of MOZART the Music Processor for Windows - http://www.mozart.co.uk
Member of the North Cheshire Concert Band http://www.northcheshire.org.uk
Brad Renwick
>> death by scoundrels but fated to rise again to haunt them.
>>
>>
>> John
>
>High five!
>
Yep. Billy Boy sure is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think his
supporters are so die hard that they'd support him even if he raped and killed
someone. It takes all kinds...that being said, I think he's one of the best
"republican" presidents we've ever had.
Jaakko Mäntyjärvi
>
> "Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
> news:cBwf7.54079$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> > Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> > 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> > to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> > what piece(s) of music would it be?
> >
>
> Nothing less than a magnificent piece of music by Handel would be
> appropriate!
Such as 'The Triumph of Time and Truth'? I think not.
--
Regards,
Jaakko Mäntyjärvi
Helsinki, Finland
"Nil significat nisi oscillat. Du vap. Du vap. Du vap."
Gerri Collins
> "Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
> news:cBwf7.54079$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> > Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> > 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> > to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> > what piece(s) of music would it be?
> >
>
> Nothing less than a magnificent piece of music by Handel would be
> appropriate!
>
> Cheers, and many happy returns.
How about John Denver's "Sweet Surrender?"
[Sample Lyrics] "....Lookin' for something that I can believe in,
lookin' for somethin' I'd like to do with my life."
"Sweet, Sweet surrender, live, live without care,
like a fish in the water, like a bird in the air."
GC
Samuel Vriezen
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>Roland van Gaalen wrote:
>>
>> "Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
>> news:cBwf7.54079$TW.2...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
>> > Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
>> > 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
>> > to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
>> > what piece(s) of music would it be?
>> >
>>
>> Nothing less than a magnificent piece of music by Handel would be
>> appropriate!
>
>Such as 'The Triumph of Time and Truth'? I think not.
Indeed, Barry's 'Triumph of Beauty and Deceit' might be more
appropriate. And as you know, the devil has the best tunes, and indeed
this is a wonderful piece.
--
Samuel
I had no idea Hawaii was SO overcast every night.
Matthew B. Tepper
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During George H.W. Bush's single term, Congress twice passed the Family
Medical Leave Act. Bush Sr. twice vetoed it. After Clinton became
president, Congress passed the FMLA one more time -- and Clinton signed it.
I voted for Clinton in 1992 because he wasn't George Bush (who vetoed the
FMLA), and in 1996 because he was Bill Clinton (who signed the FMLA). Oh,
dear, oh my, he's a pleasure-lovin' bubba who lies and cheats on his wife,
how terrible, how scandalous ... and how irrelevant! I don't think I've
ever had the opportunity to vote for a perfect godlike person in a US
election. Them's the breaks. Are you throwing your hat into the ring?
And Clinton was the first sitting US president ever to attend a first night
at the Metropolitan Opera. A far cry from JFK, who had Casals perform at
the White House, or even Carter, who had Horowitz perform there; but it's
better than absolutely nothing. So what can we expect from George W.?
Garth Brooks or the cast of "Hee Haw"?
Sonarrat Citalis
>Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
>55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
>to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
>what piece(s) of music would it be?
PDQ Bach's Pervertimento. }:)
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Dr.Matt
John Pappas <REMOVEj...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>My goodness! When first discovering this newsgroup, I thought it was a
>serious and engaging forum for recorded classical music, with a few
>sidebars for topical levity; not a forum for political proselytizing
>or partisan propaganda.
>
>M.P.
Hmmmm, when the future of culture is so completely determined by
giant corporations and their political lackeys, you have to expect
some of this from time to time in a music newsgroup....
--
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"Is there a mbira the house?"
Gerri Collins
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
>
> Jarl Sigurd
Just thought of a better one: Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love"
[Sample Lyrics - not necessarily in "order":]
"You need cool--a, Baby, I'm not fool--a
I'm gonna send you, Back to School--a"
"Way down inside, honey you need---a
I'm gonna give you my love -
Whole lotta love - - Whole lotta love-"
"I'm gonna give you my love, I'm gonna give you my love -
I'm gonna give you every inch of my love"
"I wanna be your back-door man"
(embarrassedly) GC
hamish
attempts to play the sax.
At least Bush is not a lawyer.
I don't seem to see much difference among the last 10 presidents regarding
anything important.
They have all been irrelevant as far as I am concerned.
Meethinks we would do far better with someone like Bach or Chopin in the
Whitehouse.
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> elma...@aol.comnojunk (Brad Renwick) wrote in
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Matthew B. Tepper
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> On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 22:26:05 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
><oyţ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>elma...@aol.comnojunk (Brad Renwick) wrote in
>>news:20010818175239...@mb-mv.aol.com:
>>
> My goodness! When first discovering this newsgroup, I thought it was a
> serious and engaging forum for recorded classical music, with a few
> sidebars for topical levity; not a forum for political proselytizing
> or partisan propaganda.
You must have "first discovered" this newsgroup last week. I've probably
written more about actual recordings of classical music here than you could
even begin to believe. So I'm allowed to diverge from the precise topic of
discussion, particularly when somebody makes a political remark based on my
words. It's called "entitlement." ;--)
Peter T. Daniels
> And Clinton was the first sitting US president ever to attend a first night
Both Reagan and Bush skipped some of the Kennedy Center Honors. Clinton
didn't.
> at the Metropolitan Opera. A far cry from JFK, who had Casals perform at
One of the best tracks on Vaughan Meader's *The First Family* album
(satire of the Kennedy White House, 1962) is set at a State Dinner
[names fudged after nearly 40 years]:
Butler: Ladies and gentlemen, Jascha Heifetz.
Jackie: Hello, Jascha!
Jack: Hello, Mr. Heifetz!
Butler: Pablo Casals.
Jackie: Hello, Pablo!
Jack: Hello, Mr. Casals!
Butler: Marion Anderson.
Jackie: Hello, Marion!
Jack: Hello, Miss Anderson!
...
Jack: Jackie, why is it always _your_ friends?
> the White House, or even Carter, who had Horowitz perform there; but it's
Jimmy Carter was the first guest, last spring, on Gilbert Kaplan's
monthly series (is it heard anywhere besides WNYC?) where he interviews
celebrities on their tastes in (classical) music. His comments were not
uninformed. (The most recent one was Katherine Graham, taped just a few
days before her fall.)
> better than absolutely nothing. So what can we expect from George W.?
> Garth Brooks or the cast of "Hee Haw"?
Most of whom are probably no longer among us ...
--
Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
Grimorio
I suppose there are two options, depending which side of the spectrum you
are at: either "The Rake Progress" or "Nixon in China"
Eduardo Baez
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Henry Glenworthy
"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> blurped:
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> Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
>>>>
Back Street Girl, Jagger/Richards
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Dr.Matt
In my lifetime, the US president who was most a fan of classical music
was Richard Nixon. Word has it that he even played a bit. What good he
ever did for it, though...that'd be an interesting discussion.
John Harrington
elma...@aol.comnojunk wrote on 8/18/01 2:52 PM:
No one said Clinton was the greatest thing since sliced bread. My comment
had more to do with his utterly evil tormenters than it did with him--they
don't really care what Clinton did either, just so long as it serves their
political purposes.
I can prove that you don't care either. No, Clinton didn't exactly "murder"
or "rape" anyone, but he was indirectly responsible for the deaths of
hundreds of thousands of people, and I'll bet you have no idea what I mean
nor do you care.
John
Matthew B. Tepper
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> In my lifetime, the US president who was most a fan of classical music
> was Richard Nixon. Word has it that he even played a bit. What good he
> ever did for it, though...that'd be an interesting discussion.
You were in suspended animation while Jimmy Carter was president? (Pause
to let all the Carter-bashers do their thing before I continue. There.)
As for Nixon, he did have defined if (appropriately) conservative tastes in
classical music, and occasionally (as documented in Haldeman's diaries)
discussed the National Symphony Orchestra's repertoire with his staff.
Eugene Ormandy was reportedly a Nixon intimate. There is a story about how
Nixon had Van Cliburn play the Grieg Concerto (with Ormandy/Philadelphia)
to commemorate his first inaugural, and Nixon's Quaker mother (or aunt?)
admonished him, "If thee had practiced more, thee would be down there
instead of up here!" (That's a dialect; let's not discuss it yet again.)
Matthew B. Tepper
> No one said Clinton was the greatest thing since sliced bread. My
> comment had more to do with his utterly evil tormenters than it did
> with him--they don't really care what Clinton did either, just so long
> as it serves their political purposes.
>
> I can prove that you don't care either. No, Clinton didn't exactly
> "murder" or "rape" anyone, but he was indirectly responsible for the
> deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, and I'll bet you have no
> idea what I mean nor do you care.
Name a recent president who isn't.
A friend of mine (who is Armenian and therefore as sensitive as I am to the
issue of genocide) claimed in conversation the other day that Clinton is
the only president to have gone to war to prevent genocide, without a
further underlying political agenda. I am more than a bit doubtful about
that agenda business, but it bears some thought.
John Harrington
Tepper at oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 8/19/01 9:25 AM:
> John Harrington <bear...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:B7A5155C.453%bear...@earthlink.net:
>
>> No one said Clinton was the greatest thing since sliced bread. My
>> comment had more to do with his utterly evil tormenters than it did
>> with him--they don't really care what Clinton did either, just so long
>> as it serves their political purposes.
>>
>> I can prove that you don't care either. No, Clinton didn't exactly
>> "murder" or "rape" anyone, but he was indirectly responsible for the
>> deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, and I'll bet you have no
>> idea what I mean nor do you care.
>
> Name a recent president who isn't.
>
> A friend of mine (who is Armenian and therefore as sensitive as I am to the
> issue of genocide) claimed in conversation the other day that Clinton is
> the only president to have gone to war to prevent genocide, without a
> further underlying political agenda. I am more than a bit doubtful about
> that agenda business, but it bears some thought.
Funny you should mention genocide, because in the incident I'm thinking of,
Clinton (either deliberately or stupidly) opened the floodgates to genocide.
There, I've given you a hint.
John
Marsha Rider
>>"Sonarrat Citalis"wrote :
> >Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> >55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> >to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> >what piece(s) of music would it be?
>
> PDQ Bach's Pervertimento. }:)
>
Excellent, Jeff. LOL.
I offer:
"I've Got Friends in Low Places"
Marsha
Jan Depondt
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| You must have "first discovered" this newsgroup last week. I've probably
| written more about actual recordings of classical music here than you
could
| even begin to believe.
Not this century.
But you're still the greatest off-topic poster I've seen here (specially
about American movies and politics). Present in most threads, but not saying
much about music.
|
| So I'm allowed to diverge from the precise topic of
| discussion, particularly when somebody makes a political remark based on
my
| words. It's called "entitlement." ;--)
So? Allowed by yourself. And being the only one who is allowed - by you - to
post about whatever you like.
--
Jan Depondt
Matthew B. Tepper
Gosh, a president who made mistakes. What a rarity!
Sonarrat Citalis
>> PDQ Bach's Pervertimento. }:)
>>
>> -Snrrt Ctls, yr fthfl srvnt.
>I love it!!!
It's the definitive answer, of course. };)
D.G. Porter
>
> My goodness! When first discovering this newsgroup, I thought it was a
> serious and engaging forum for recorded classical music, with a few
> sidebars for topical levity; not a forum for political proselytizing
> or partisan propaganda.
... newbie ...
John Harrington
B. Tepper at oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 8/19/01 10:54 AM:
> John Harrington <bear...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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>> in article dMRf7.9027$D4.7...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net,
>> Matthew B. Tepper at oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 8/19/01 9:25 AM:
>>
>>> John Harrington <bear...@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:B7A5155C.453%bear...@earthlink.net:
>>>
>>>> No one said Clinton was the greatest thing since sliced bread. My
>>>> comment had more to do with his utterly evil tormenters than it did
>>>> with him--they don't really care what Clinton did either, just so
>>>> long as it serves their political purposes.
>>>>
>>>> I can prove that you don't care either. No, Clinton didn't exactly
>>>> "murder" or "rape" anyone, but he was indirectly responsible for the
>>>> deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, and I'll bet you have no
>>>> idea what I mean nor do you care.
>>>
>>> Name a recent president who isn't.
>>>
>>> A friend of mine (who is Armenian and therefore as sensitive as I am
>>> to the issue of genocide) claimed in conversation the other day that
>>> Clinton is the only president to have gone to war to prevent genocide,
>>> without a further underlying political agenda. I am more than a bit
>>> doubtful about that agenda business, but it bears some thought.
>>
>> Funny you should mention genocide, because in the incident I'm thinking
>> of, Clinton (either deliberately or stupidly) opened the floodgates to
>> genocide. There, I've given you a hint.
>
> Gosh, a president who made mistakes. What a rarity!
You call 800,000 lives butchered a "mistake"? Do you even know what I'm
talking about yet? Do you care?
John
Nicholas Buenk
"Jarl Sigurd" <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
Variations on Happy Birthday by John Williams. Concert work he did :) An
arrangement.
You can here a midi here
http://garyw0001.simplenet.com/GMIDI/BdayVarD.MID
hamish
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> For Clinton, how about Prokofiev's or Ravel's "Concerto for Left Hand?"
That would be good. Are there any concerto's for the right hand?
Matthew B. Tepper
Doesn't matter. Clinton is left-handed. (As are George H.W. Bush, Jerry
Brown, and H. Ross Perot, an odd fact which was pointed out during the 1992
campaign.)
Jaakko Mäntyjärvi
Stop talking in riddles. If you have a point, how about putting it
across so that it is comprehensible even to those of us who would dearly
love to ignore the sandbox that is US politics but given the size of the
sandbox are unable to?
--
Regards,
Jaakko Mäntyjärvi
Helsinki, Finland
"Nil significat nisi oscillat. Du vap. Du vap. Du vap."
hamish
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> Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
>
hamish
nothing interesting.
However, I personally have no objection if someone wishes to tackle any
of the left-hand ones with the right hand only. <gg>
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Dr.Matt
>I know of no major concerti for right hand only. A quick search turned up
>nothing interesting.
>However, I personally have no objection if someone wishes to tackle any
>of the left-hand ones with the right hand only. <gg>
It will be a bit difficult because left-hand literature usually has a
prominent top line scored for the thumb, which must be played with the
little finger of the right hand. On the other hand, on carillon it's
usually the bass line that rings loudest and thus tends to carry the melody,
so perhaps transcriptions of carillon music could be done for right hand
alone.
Matthew B. Tepper
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Evidently Clinton key-scratched Harrington's car, punched out his brother,
kicked his dog, and called his mother a naughty name.
Matthew Silverstein
> Doesn't matter. Clinton is left-handed. (As are George H.W. Bush, Jerry
> Brown, and H. Ross Perot, an odd fact which was pointed out during the 1992
> campaign.)
I believe that Reagan, Carter, and Ford were also all left-handed.
Matty
Brwencino
you?
hamish
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Dr.Matt
Ask Ivy what she thinks about it.
gaus
John Harrington
No, Clinton's insensitive blunder caused the deaths of 800,000 people.
Hmm, I wonder why that is so hard to understand...or remember.
BTW, I am not particularly a Clinton basher. This issue came up
because it was asserted that Clinton's supporters wouldn't care if he
"raped and killed" someone. My point is his detractors don't care
either. They exploited a sensational sex story for their political
ends. Period. If they really cared about "morality", the cigar story
would be dwarfed by the story I've alluded to.
As for "talking in riddles", I've done no such thing. It's not my
fault this is a riddle for you. It was headline news at the time--all
over the world (this is an international news story not US "sand box"
politics). Hardly anyone gave or gives a shit, but I'm sure you know
all about the thong, the blue dress, and the semen stain. Rather than
feeling ashamed, you get pissed off at me for "talking in riddles".
Too damn bad.
John
Oisk17
>
>No, Clinton's insensitive blunder caused the deaths of 800,000 people.
> Hmm, I wonder why that is so hard to understand...or remember.
>
>
>As for "talking in riddles", I've done no such thing. It's not my
>fault this is a riddle for you. It was headline news at the time--all
>over the world
I assume John is referring to the massacre of the Tutsi in Rwanda in 1994. My
source lists the deaths as "at least one million." John posed his "riddle"
just to prove how little the world cared about this atrocity, and the befuddled
responses indicate that he proved his point.
However, while Clinton did nothing to prevent the killing, I am puzzled as to
how his blunder permitted it to begin.
While I did not admire Clinton, I think that the intervention in Bosnia was the
single greatest thing he did - a purely altruistic act saving hundreds of
thousands of lives - when the collected minds of Europe were content to sit and
watch. (sorry for the mixed metaphor)
It pains me to observe that the lives of Africans appear to have been less
worth saving (to Clinton and the rest of the world ) than those of Europeans.
Paul
notrump15-17
Ray Hall
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| Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
| 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
| to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
| what piece(s) of music would it be?
Billy (nipped in the) Budd by Britten.
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John Harrington
ois...@aol.com wrote on 8/20/01 7:23 PM:
>> From: jbay...@my-deja.com (John Harrington)
>
>>
>> No, Clinton's insensitive blunder caused the deaths of 800,000 people.
>> Hmm, I wonder why that is so hard to understand...or remember.
>>
>
>>
>> As for "talking in riddles", I've done no such thing. It's not my
>> fault this is a riddle for you. It was headline news at the time--all
>> over the world
>
> I assume John is referring to the massacre of the Tutsi in Rwanda in 1994. My
> source lists the deaths as "at least one million." John posed his "riddle"
> just to prove how little the world cared about this atrocity, and the
> befuddled
> responses indicate that he proved his point.
>
> However, while Clinton did nothing to prevent the killing, I am puzzled as to
> how his blunder permitted it to begin.
Well you correctly identified the incident (800K were killed after the
Clinton blunder I refer to--multiple sources). Sorry that you're puzzled.
Wish you weren't.
John
Steven Forrest
>
>Evidently Clinton key-scratched Harrington's car, punched out his brother,
>kicked his dog, and called his mother a naughty name.
No, Clinton did something far worse. He had ROCK music
played at his inauguration!
-Steve
Matthew B. Tepper
news:9lu8rr$k73$2...@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu:
Oh, well NOW I'm going to have to withdraw my support!
Doctor Angelicus
That's for Hillary, not for Bill
barry schneider
Lone Ranger section.
Barbara Gross
-Bibi
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No, actually, the inauguration featured Bonnie Grice and Wally Smith
backing up Charlotte Church's performance of Amy Beach's arrangement
of Berlioz's Requiem, to be released this fall on Sony Classical.
John
Matthew B. Tepper
John Harrington
Tepper at oy?@earthlink.net wrote on 8/21/01 12:44 PM:
> sfor...@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Steven Forrest) wrote in
> news:9lu8rr$k73$2...@jetsam.uits.indiana.edu:
>
>> Matthew B. Tepper <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Evidently Clinton key-scratched Harrington's car, punched out his
>>> brother, kicked his dog, and called his mother a naughty name.
>>
>> No, Clinton did something far worse. He had ROCK music
>> played at his inauguration!
>
> Oh, well NOW I'm going to have to withdraw my support!
Guffaw.
J
Colin Rosenthal
Barbara Gross <Barbar...@MailAndNews.com> wrote:
>How about cheesy 70s porn music from JJ's video collection?
Or Don Giovanni.
--
Colin Rosenthal
Astrophysics Institute
University of Oslo
Beth Diane Garfinkel
required, with apologies to Oscar Hammerstein III)
Or that song from _Kiss me, Kate_, by Cole Porter, "I'm still
true to you, Darling, In my Fashion"? With similar textual
alterations required.
Or any number of variations on "La Monica"? (That's a
seventeenth-century ground bass.)
Beth
--
"Under the green wood tree/Who loves to lie with me/And tune his merry
note/Unto the sweet bird's throat/Come hither, come hither, come hither/
Here he shall see/No enemy/But winter and rough weather."
--William Shakespeare
Oisk17
my mind,
My love for you was way out of line..."
Paul
John Harrington
ois...@aol.com wrote on 8/22/01 8:53 PM:
> Since Bill likes rock n roll, I recall an apt lyric..."Young girl, get out of
> my mind,
> My love for you was way out of line..."
At the time of Monicagate, I toyed with the idea of rewriting the lyrics of
"A most susceptible chancellor, etc." to "A most susceptible president,
etc."
John
Keith Denning
Jarl Sigurd wrote:
> Sunday August 19 is Former US President Bill Clinton's
> 55th Birthday. If you could chose any piece(s) of music
> to commemorate his life's accomplishements thus far,
> what piece(s) of music would it be?
>
> Jarl Sigurd
>
Matthew B. Tepper
news:3B84A42C...@sympatico.ca:
> Stravinsky's "The Rake's Passage"?
*cough* "Progress."
D.G. Porter
"GIVE ME ... YOUR DIRTY LOVE .. Just like some tacky little pamphlet in
your daddy's bottom drawer..." (Oh, Frenchy!)
Skip
"Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Keith Denning <kden...@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:3B84A42C...@sympatico.ca:
>
> > Stravinsky's "The Rake's Passage"?
>
> *cough* "Progress.">
The title of Tepper's own operatic opus, which he is too modest to mention,
is "Nixon in the Loo".
Henry Glenworthy
"Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote :
> I voted for Clinton in 1992 because he wasn't George Bush (who vetoed the
> FMLA), and in 1996 because he was Bill Clinton (who signed the FMLA). Oh,
> dear, oh my, he's a pleasure-lovin' bubba who lies and cheats on his wife,
> how terrible, how scandalous ... and how irrelevant!
>>>>
BZZZZ! Not when he lied under oath about it.
==================================
samir golescu
'Nuff Clinton. What about Nixon's song?
"I wonder who's Kissing'er now", perhaps?
Peter T. Daniels
Those questions should never have been asked in the first place. Monica
was a tangent to a tangent to a tangent.
What, no retort to Luis Alvarez's experiments regarding assassinations?
--
Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
A. Brain
back to life with a weary complaint. And if you don't care to read
off-topic political posts, stop here.
Clinton did not lie under oath; he exploited ambiguities in the questions
and the questioners, perhaps intentionally, never followed up. Yes, he was
evasive, and why not? Was Monica not entitled to privacy? (I still don't
understand why she made a deal with Starr. What would she have been
punished with if found guilty of signing a false affidavit? A $500 fine?)
Let's not forget that there is pretty convincing evidence that Rehnquist and
Thomas lied to Congress--about important matters, not about sex, (though it
seems that Thomas may have lied about that too--these are apparently the
"lies" that people care about.)
And then, surprise, these two jurists, who usually frown even on legitimate
"equal protection" claims and apparently heedless of what posterity will
say, both participated in that really big lie--the decision in Bush
v. Gore, particularly the decision to stop the vote counting in Florida with
a finding of "irreparable harm" allegedly shown by the Bush camp . Well
described in a way that non-lawyers can understand in Alan Dershowitz's book
_Supreme Injustice_.
Why the public should care that Clinton used an easy "out"--answering a
question
using his own definition--about a matter at best "collateral" to the matter
at hand, is beyond me. Except that his opponents were determined to destroy
him and the press knows that sex sells.
And it also bears repeating, because you didn't hear much about it from the
"liberal" press, that Paula Jones's lawsuit was totally frivolous, the kind
that the right wing complains about all the time when bashing "trial
lawyers". She simply had no damages. Her lawyers sent her to a counselor a
few weeks before court hearings on the matter, trying to come up with
something. Years after the alleged incident at the hotel room.
So Clinton's opponents--including some of the lawyers now in Bush's
administration--poured thousands of dollars and volunteered legal services
into a frivolous lawsuit designed to harass the President and trick him into
making an allegedly perjurious answer to a question about a collateral
issue.
And now Bush, supposedly worried about "frivolous" lawsuits against HMOs
and insurance companies, opposes a patients' bill of rights similar in some
respects to the one we have in Texas, which he vetoed and never signed, but
claimed credit for in his campaign.
OK, I don't want another debate on this stuff, but the above is pretty fair,
though admittedly coming from a partisan.
REG
"A. Brain" <abr...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
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Sacqueboutier
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> Henry Glenworthy wrote:
> >
> > "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy?@earthlink.net> wrote :
> >
> > > I voted for Clinton in 1992 because he wasn't George Bush (who vetoed the
> > > FMLA), and in 1996 because he was Bill Clinton (who signed the FMLA). Oh,
> > > dear, oh my, he's a pleasure-lovin' bubba who lies and cheats on his wife,
> > > how terrible, how scandalous ... and how irrelevant!
> >
> > >>>>
> >
> > BZZZZ! Not when he lied under oath about it.
>
> Those questions should never have been asked in the first place. Monica
> was a tangent to a tangent to a tangent.
>
Nevertheless, they WERE asked in conjunction with a legitamate sexual
harassment claim (where were the Feminazis during this entire episode?).
He lied...under oath. The head of the executive branch of the the US
government betrayed an oath of truth that is the very basis of our
justice system. You don't find that worthy of prosecution?
Don
Coby Beck
"Sacqueboutier" <don...@olg.com> wrote in message
news:3B87A4EE...@olg.com...
>
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
>
> > Henry Glenworthy wrote:
> > >
> > > "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy?@earthlink.net> wrote :
> > >
> > > > I voted for Clinton in 1992 because he wasn't George Bush (who
vetoed the
> > > > FMLA), and in 1996 because he was Bill Clinton (who signed the
FMLA). Oh,
> > > > dear, oh my, he's a pleasure-lovin' bubba who lies and cheats on his
wife,
> > > > how terrible, how scandalous ... and how irrelevant!
> > >
> > > >>>>
> > >
> > > BZZZZ! Not when he lied under oath about it.
> >
> > Those questions should never have been asked in the first place. Monica
> > was a tangent to a tangent to a tangent.
> >
>
> Nevertheless, they WERE asked in conjunction with a legitamate sexual
> harassment claim (where were the Feminazis during this entire episode?).
Yes, they were asked in that context (though "legitimate" remains
undefined). So we see it was a brilliantly laid trap. And yes he fell into
it. Big deal.
> He lied...under oath. The head of the executive branch of the the US
> government betrayed an oath of truth that is the very basis of our
> justice system. You don't find that worthy of prosecution?
>
What? You believe that George Washington and the cherry tree crap? Please.
Show me a lie that lines his pockets with cash while harming the people he
was sworn to serve. Show me a lie that damages the environment so his
business friends can make a few more bucks profit. The only person who has
a legitimate right to be outraged by what he said is his wife, as for the
rest of us, it is none of our business.
Coby
--
moc.dnopgib@101yboc
Peter T. Daniels
Ms. Jones never showed one iota of sexual harassment. He could even have
charged her with profiting from sexual favors, since she continued in
normal or even accelerated job advancement after the alleged incident.
Wouldn't that count as prostitution? Yet instead of a night in jail, she
got $800,000.
So ... you cop to being a Limbaughian. (That stupid epithet is his
alone.) A Dittohead. Maybe that does make you Marine material, where
Only Following Orders is paramount.
He chose his words very carefully ("what the meaning of is is" and all
that) so as not to lie; and a sufficient handful of Republican senators
were not swayed by the propaganda otherwise to vote for acquittal.
Remember, it was the same SCOTUS that put Bush in office prematurely
that decided it was ok for the sitting POTUS to be subject to civil
suits in the first place.
Peter T. Daniels
REG wrote:
>
> Can it, will you?
>
> "A. Brain" <abr...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
> news:sPVh7.904$t42.12...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> > I thought this thread, pretty tired to start with, was dead, but it springs
> > back to life with a weary complaint. And if you don't care to read
> > off-topic political posts, stop here.
I forgot to mention that it would be nice if someone sued Dubya to
recover whatever salary the National Guard paid him for the year he was
AWOL.
Matthew B. Tepper
news:9m8q1o$m57$1...@news.apaynet.com:
Still irrelevant. It's called "entrapment." The exact same thing could be
done to YOU, sir, had you opponents powerful enough and rich enough and
evil enough. And I would rise just as fast and as loud to defend you.
Matthew B. Tepper
> Nevertheless, they WERE asked in conjunction with a legitamate sexual
> harassment claim (where were the Feminazis during this entire
> episode?). He lied...under oath. The head of the executive branch of
> the the US government betrayed an oath of truth that is the very basis
> of our justice system. You don't find that worthy of prosecution?
Irrelevant -- entrapment.
Matthew B. Tepper
news:dSWh7.54064$l7.64...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com:
> Can it, will you?
Why?
REG
election....I have to avoid SOME OT threads, and haven't responded to
comments I thought were wrong or misstated. I don't have A Brain's post in
front of me, but I recall - perhaps inaccurately - that after a fairly
jumbled (in my view) recounting, he then went on to say something like his
presentation was a "fair" or accurate one, within limits.
That's what got to me. It was a Roshomon event, and everyone was politically
playing football and hardball IMHO; one side was going to win, but neither
side was going to win an award for integrity....because the Democrats lost
in this instance, it doesn't mean they had more integrity...because the
Court made a decision 5/4 (to simplify the split) that the 4 felt was
political, doesn't mean that the analysis of the 4 wasn't as motivated - if
not more so - for a specific outcome.
So the "can it" - which was admittedly a bit too impolite, was a response to
someone putting on the "my story is fair and true (I know that's not exactly
what was said)" mantle.
"Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote in message
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D.G. Porter
>
> Sacqueboutier <don...@olg.com> wrote in news:3B87A4EE...@olg.com:
>
> > Nevertheless, they WERE asked in conjunction with a legitamate sexual
> > harassment claim (where were the Feminazis during this entire
> > episode?). He lied...under oath. The head of the executive branch of
> > the the US government betrayed an oath of truth that is the very basis
> > of our justice system. You don't find that worthy of prosecution?
>
> Irrelevant -- entrapment.
Nothing new. Bar been lowered. Reagan's "I can't recall, I don't
remember."
Only the most partisan self-made blind man can avoid seeing this whole
thing wa an attempted coup d'etat, payback for imagined injuries
committed against Nixxon™ and Raygun.
I watche most of that Judiciaru Committee farce (while in Cleveland) and
if you think people like Schippers had anything but a 'shroom dream
going for them, ... well...
See, it's like this (he said,thinking back to his days living in the
belly of the Orange Beast, Newport Beach, and places like the Newporter
Inn, where Martha Mitchell got a buttcheek full of anesthetic to get her
off the phone)...
Republicans conspire and hope it all looks like blameless coincidence.
Democrats, being as organized a a herd of cats, can't seen to figure out
how to meet each other for lunch, let alone form massive conspiracies.
So when Republicans see a coincidence, they assume a conspiracy, because
that is how they operate.
OTOH, some Repubs are just plain fucking stupid. I went to school with
Nixxon™'s nephew Rich, and he was so shrewd that he got busted for drug
smuggling big-time a few years after we all graduated. No conspiracy
there.
Peter T. Daniels
>
> Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> >
> > Sacqueboutier <don...@olg.com> wrote in news:3B87A4EE...@olg.com:
> >
> > > Nevertheless, they WERE asked in conjunction with a legitamate sexual
> > > harassment claim (where were the Feminazis during this entire
> > > episode?). He lied...under oath. The head of the executive branch of
> > > the the US government betrayed an oath of truth that is the very basis
> > > of our justice system. You don't find that worthy of prosecution?
> >
> > Irrelevant -- entrapment.
>
> Nothing new. Bar been lowered. Reagan's "I can't recall, I don't
> remember."
> Only the most partisan self-made blind man can avoid seeing this whole
> thing wa an attempted coup d'etat, payback for imagined injuries
> committed against Nixxon™ and Raygun.
Don't forget George "Out of the Loop" Bush, who preemptively pardoned
all the felons presumptive who would have testified just how far inside
the loop he was.
D.G. Porter
I wish I could forget that leering slimeball.
Anyway, to bring this back a leetle to music, a friend who plays piano
is in a small combo and the other day they played a wedding. The three
of them were the only non-Republican non-"conservatives" around.
Eveyone in the wedding party knew this. And they started making "little
jokes" about them. It started out harmlessly enough, but it apparently
got kind of snippy, and then sort of mean.
I notice this about the current Republican party (of the last 30+
years). Especially when it comes to "Tell him there's a banana in the
corner of the Oval Office" Smirk.
John Harrington
wrote on 8/26/01 12:36 PM:
> Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
>>
>> Sacqueboutier <don...@olg.com> wrote in news:3B87A4EE...@olg.com:
>>
>>> Nevertheless, they WERE asked in conjunction with a legitamate sexual
>>> harassment claim (where were the Feminazis during this entire
>>> episode?).
What the hell is a "Feminazi"? Someone who differentiates herself from a
doormat?
>>> He lied...under oath.
His blunder caused the death of 800K people and you're worried about a lie
under oath?
Spare us your moralistic routine and crocodile tears. Your outrage is just
an excuse.
J
Matthew B. Tepper
news:3B894F...@pacbell.net:
> See, it's like this (he said,thinking back to his days living in the
> belly of the Orange Beast, Newport Beach, and places like the Newporter
> Inn, where Martha Mitchell got a buttcheek full of anesthetic to get her
> off the phone)...
There was at least one occasion when somebody "guarding" Mrs. Mitchell
ripped the phone out of the wall in order to prevent her from calling for
help.
Matthew B. Tepper
Yes, we have no bananas. (While I only know this from history, I *do* know
what the term "bananas" was supposed to represent in the context of that
popular song.)
A. Brain
court's decisions in favor of "Boy George". Those will go down in history
as being more than a bit "jumbled". And I suspect that Sandra Day O'Connor
will be remembered more for her panicky remarks on hearing that Gore won
Florida than for being the first woman justice. Some scholars are already
more or less analyzing her many pivotal decisions as showing that she sees
herself as a kind of Solomon or Cincinnatus. In any case, the Bush v. Gore
decision was hardly an example of judicial restraint and her role and
motivations will be scrutinized by historians and court-watchers for years
to come.
Back in the thirties, there were four justices who regularly opposed the
"New Deal" social and economic legislation of the Roosevelt administration.
Justices
Butler, Sutherland, McReynolds, and Van Devanter were called the "Four
Horsemen" by their critics. Their opposition, with the occasional joining
opinions of even some of the "liberal" judges, was a major obstacle to
Roosevelt's agenda, and led to his infamous "court-packing plan".
I don't know whether it will be the "Gang of Five" or the "Supremos", but
this group of five judges will not fare well in history. There is simply no
way the court should have taken this case, and that is the reason the
decision truly is a 5-4 decision. The fact that more than five justices
agreed
that there were "equal protection" problems with the counting of votes is
incidental. The Supremos, having stopped the counting earlier, ruled that
it was now too late to do the recount with appropriate standards.
Years ago in school, I had a law professor, a guy who loved Mozart and
regularly quoted Shakespeare, and also a prominent scholar. When we studied
a decision like this, he would usually turn to Lewis Carroll for the
appropriate comparison.
If Bush gets some high court appointments in his term, we may have more than
five "Supremos" for a long while.
A. Brain
Remove "nospam" when replying via email
"REG" <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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A. Brain
Martha Mitchell--to think I almost forgot about her. It brings to mind all
that Watergate lore. Didn't John Mitchell, summer of '73 and alleged by a
colleague to be "deep into melancholy and Dewar's White Label", predict that
Kate Graham [may she rest in peace] was going to "get her tit caught in a
big fat wringer"?
MItchell had supposedly "deep-sixed" the idea of the "plumbers" and the
disruption of the 1972 Democratic convention with hookers hired to embarass
Democratic politicians, but the plan went into operation anyway, on a more
limited scale, using, yes, Cuban expatriates.
It always seems to happen in Florida in one way or another. Now I am
wondering about the Gary Hart/Donna Rice thing. After all, Hart was a very
promising candidate leading up to 1988. If the GOP could have got Clinton
in '91 with a "Donna Rice situation", ironically we would probably be in the
second term of a Democratic president right now.
One of the GOP mischief makers of the Watergate era, or maybe it was Nixon
himself, though it sounds more like Haldeman, had said that the GOP needed
to create a "Dick Tuck capability" (Tuck was a Democratic prankster who used
to prey upon the Nixon campaign and others). Well, now they have that and
more in spades (so to speak).
Another favorite: Haldeman: "Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it's
hard to get it back in...." That kind of describes what happened when Bush
took the lead in Florida on election night last year. But we know that Jeb
and Katherine had nothing to do with that...
I know Woodward and Bernstein deny it, but I still think that "Deep Throat"
was Al Haig. But as Haig would say later in a different setting, "Let me
caveat that...."
--
A. Brain
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"D.G. Porter" <dgpo...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> >
> > Sacqueboutier <don...@olg.com> wrote in news:3B87A4EE...@olg.com:
> >
> > > Nevertheless, they WERE asked in conjunction with a legitamate sexual
> > > harassment claim (where were the Feminazis during this entire
> > > episode?). He lied...under oath. The head of the executive branch of
> > > the the US government betrayed an oath of truth that is the very basis
> > > of our justice system. You don't find that worthy of prosecution?
> >
> > Irrelevant -- entrapment.
>
> Nothing new. Bar been lowered. Reagan's "I can't recall, I don't
> remember."
> Only the most partisan self-made blind man can avoid seeing this whole
> thing wa an attempted coup d'etat, payback for imagined injuries
> committed against NixxonT and Raygun.
> I watche most of that Judiciaru Committee farce (while in Cleveland) and
> if you think people like Schippers had anything but a 'shroom dream
> going for them, ... well...
> See, it's like this (he said,thinking back to his days living in the
> belly of the Orange Beast, Newport Beach, and places like the Newporter
> Inn, where Martha Mitchell got a buttcheek full of anesthetic to get her
> off the phone)...
> Republicans conspire and hope it all looks like blameless coincidence.
> Democrats, being as organized a a herd of cats, can't seen to figure out
> how to meet each other for lunch, let alone form massive conspiracies.
> So when Republicans see a coincidence, they assume a conspiracy, because
> that is how they operate.
> OTOH, some Repubs are just plain fucking stupid. I went to school with
> NixxonT's nephew Rich, and he was so shrewd that he got busted for drug
Matthew B. Tepper
> If Bush gets some high court appointments in his term, we may have more
> than five "Supremos" for a long while.
Oh, it's worse than that. Remember who is was who appointed Rehnquist to
the Supreme Court: Nixon! So it's all still his fault, in one form or
another.
Owen Hartnett
"A. Brain" <abr...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote:
> I don't know whether it will be the "Gang of Five" or the "Supremos", but
> this group of five judges will not fare well in history. There is simply no
> way the court should have taken this case, and that is the reason the
> decision truly is a 5-4 decision. The fact that more than five justices
> agreed
> that there were "equal protection" problems with the counting of votes is
> incidental. The Supremos, having stopped the counting earlier, ruled that
> it was now too late to do the recount with appropriate standards.
So, 5 judges == "bad", but 4 judges == "good?" Doesn't that make them
*all* partisan?
They're only good if they vote your way?
If, as you said, there was "no way the court should have taken this
case," then you could also apply the same remark to the Florida Supreme
Court, who took on the case without being asked by either side.
So, if there is only one court in the land that will decide the
Presidency of the United States, shouldn't it be the US Supreme Court,
even though it's not "packed" to your satisfaction?
In fact, if you take all the partisanship out of it (hard to do), then
it was the Florida Supreme Court who "blew it." They could have
immediately ordered a full recount of the entire state. Instead they
ordered this partial recount with a deadline, which they lated rescinded
(or tried to). Like it or not, the Florida Supremes were a bunch of
bumblers who were clearly not up to the task of making a decision of
this magnitude.
-Owen
Bob Harper
Owen Hartnett wrote:
>
>
> So, 5 judges == "bad", but 4 judges == "good?" Doesn't that make them
> *all* partisan?
>
> They're only good if they vote your way?
>
> If, as you said, there was "no way the court should have taken this
> case," then you could also apply the same remark to the Florida Supreme
> Court, who took on the case without being asked by either side.
>
> So, if there is only one court in the land that will decide the
> Presidency of the United States, shouldn't it be the US Supreme Court,
> even though it's not "packed" to your satisfaction?
>
> In fact, if you take all the partisanship out of it (hard to do), then
> it was the Florida Supreme Court who "blew it." They could have
> immediately ordered a full recount of the entire state. Instead they
> ordered this partial recount with a deadline, which they lated rescinded
> (or tried to). Like it or not, the Florida Supremes were a bunch of
> bumblers who were clearly not up to the task of making a decision of
> this magnitude.
>
> -Owen
Amen!
Bob Harper
D.G. Porter
>
>
> Now I am
> wondering about the Gary Hart/Donna Rice thing. After all, Hart was a very
> promising candidate leading up to 1988.
Donna Rice. I think she was a GOP plant. She was that bitch
campaigning for the Communication Decency Act not long ago, shouting on
the steps of the Supreme Court building, "What's WRONG with a G-rated
country!?? What's WRONG with a G-rated country!?? What's WRONG with a
G-rated country!?? What's WRONG with a G-rated country!?? What's WRONG
with a G-rated country!?? What's WRONG with a G-rated country!??
What's WRONG with a G-rated country!??"
It SUCKS, that's what, bitch.
> One of the GOP mischief makers of the Watergate era, or maybe it was Nixon
> himself, though it sounds more like Haldeman, had said that the GOP needed
> to create a "Dick Tuck capability" (Tuck was a Democratic prankster who used
> to prey upon the Nixon campaign and others). Well, now they have that and
> more in spades (so to speak).
Donald Segretti. Imagine my surprise when I was going through Dad's
papers after his death and found a thank-you note from Segretti for a
crystal thing Dad gave him and his wife as a wedding present in '81.
> I know Woodward and Bernstein deny it, but I still think that "Deep Throat"
> was Al Haig. But as Haig would say later in a different setting, "Let me
> caveat that...."
You're not the only one...
D.G. Porter
>
> "D.G. Porter" <dgpo...@pacbell.net> wrote in
> news:3B8971...@pacbell.net:
>
> > is in a small combo and the other day they played a wedding. The three
> > of them were the only non-Republican non-"conservatives" around.
> > Eveyone in the wedding party knew this. And they started making "little
> > jokes" about them. It started out harmlessly enough, but it apparently
> > got kind of snippy, and then sort of mean.
> > I notice this about the current Republican party (of the last 30+
> > years). Especially when it comes to "Tell him there's a banana in the
> > corner of the Oval Office" Smirk.
>
> Yes, we have no bananas. (While I only know this from history, I *do* know
> what the term "bananas" was supposed to represent in the context of that
> popular song.)
[McLaughlinesque voice:] Really!?