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Ricky Jimenez
Oct 6, 2012, 3:34:23 PM10/6/12
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Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
on Amazon. It is the most enthusiastic review of his Beethoven that I
have seen yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Complete-Sontas-Stewart-Goodyear/product-reviews/B008OHV4GA
I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
markings. I am still working through the download and am relishing
every moment.
on Amazon. It is the most enthusiastic review of his Beethoven that I
have seen yet.
http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Complete-Sontas-Stewart-Goodyear/product-reviews/B008OHV4GA
I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
markings. I am still working through the download and am relishing
every moment.
Dufus
Oct 6, 2012, 3:50:15 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
> Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
> on Amazon.
Yes, Hank Drake is worth listening to, always.
> Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
> on Amazon.
"Generic" Ashkenazy ?! Ouch.
td
Oct 6, 2012, 4:50:08 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 6, 3:50 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>
> > Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
> > on Amazon.
>
> Yes, Hank Drake is worth listening to, always.
Why?
> On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>
> > Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
> > on Amazon.
>
> Yes, Hank Drake is worth listening to, always.
TD
Lena
Oct 6, 2012, 5:05:16 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 6, 12:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
> It is the most enthusiastic review of his Beethoven that I
> have seen yet.
> http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Complete-Sontas-Stewart-Goodyear/prod...
getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
metronome marks on it. :) )
> I am still working through the download and am relishing
> every moment.
That's excellent. (Please don't take the above as an opinion on
Goodyear. I haven't heard this at all -- actually, I'm trying to
avoid new Beethoven cycles, since I choked on the last one sampled
(Lim's). :) Otoh, the Buchbinder II Mark and others talked about
earlier seems pretty worthwhile, so far.)
Lena
>
> [...]
> It is the most enthusiastic review of his Beethoven that I
> have seen yet.
>
> I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
> markings.
Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
> markings.
getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
metronome marks on it. :) )
> I am still working through the download and am relishing
> every moment.
Goodyear. I haven't heard this at all -- actually, I'm trying to
avoid new Beethoven cycles, since I choked on the last one sampled
(Lim's). :) Otoh, the Buchbinder II Mark and others talked about
earlier seems pretty worthwhile, so far.)
Lena
John Wiser
Oct 6, 2012, 5:49:20 PM10/6/12
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"Dufus" <steve...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
JDW
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No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
JDW
Kimba W Lion
Oct 6, 2012, 7:33:34 PM10/6/12
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Dufus <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>> Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
>> on Amazon.
>
>Yes, Hank Drake is worth listening to, always.
When did "virtuoso" become a dirty word?
>On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>> Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
>> on Amazon.
>
>Yes, Hank Drake is worth listening to, always.
Dufus
Oct 6, 2012, 7:52:09 PM10/6/12
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>On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
> No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
> Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
>I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
> No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
> Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
Your 2 wrongs certainly don't make a right.Deacon is inexcusable , but
in your case I suspect you're spending too much time near The City,
JW . Ya'll need to come on out herah for a spell.
Dufus ( Who has also been to Bully Hill , and Iowa, and knows bull
when he sees,hears,or tastes it . )
The Historian
Oct 6, 2012, 7:53:20 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 6, 3:50 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've found most Amazon reviewers to be a legend in their own mousepad.
The only one I think both interesting and informative is Santa Fe
Listener, who is opinionated but will defend his likes (Szell,
Harnoncourt, Bernstein, Minkowski, Levine.....) and his dislikes
(Leinsdorf, Ormandy, Wand, Zinman......).
Oh, and I should add that one of my favorite recordings of the Mozart
piano concerto 17 I purchased after reading an excerpt from a John
Wiser review originally published in Fanfare and added as an editorial
comment on Amazon.
Dufus
Oct 6, 2012, 7:59:53 PM10/6/12
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>On Oct 6, 6:53 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why?
Ashkenazy's Op.109 , and "Tempest " , in his original London Decca
lp set , remain my preferred readinge of those works.
> Why?
Ashkenazy's Op.109 , and "Tempest " , in his original London Decca
lp set , remain my preferred readinge of those works.
td
Oct 6, 2012, 8:50:05 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 6, 7:52 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
> > No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
> > Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
>
> You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
Not as strange as your conclusion.
> >On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
> > No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
> > Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
>
> You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
I simply asked "why" Hank Drake was worth "listening" to, always?
So far I have not received an answer.
TD
George
Oct 6, 2012, 8:58:24 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 6, 5:05 pm, Lena <emswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 12:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > [...]
> > It is the most enthusiastic review of his Beethoven that I
> > have seen yet.
> >http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Complete-Sontas-Stewart-Goodyear/prod...
>
> > I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
> > markings.
>
> Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> metronome marks on it. :) )
LOL!!
> On Oct 6, 12:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > [...]
> > It is the most enthusiastic review of his Beethoven that I
> > have seen yet.
> >http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Complete-Sontas-Stewart-Goodyear/prod...
>
> > I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
> > markings.
>
> Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> metronome marks on it. :) )
George
The Historian
Oct 6, 2012, 9:03:18 PM10/6/12
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MiNe 109
Oct 6, 2012, 9:20:23 PM10/6/12
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In article
<a47a5584-6550-4b0b...@q4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
Stephen
<a47a5584-6550-4b0b...@q4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
Lena <emsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> metronome marks on it. :) )
Following Czerny's doesn't have the same authority!
>
> Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> metronome marks on it. :) )
Stephen
John Wiser
Oct 6, 2012, 11:20:51 PM10/6/12
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"Dufus" <steve...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
>> No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
>> Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
> You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
> Your 2 wrongs certainly don't make a right.Deacon is inexcusable , but
> in your case I suspect you're spending too much time near The City,
> JW . Ya'll need to come on out herah for a spell.
You'll never get me west of Ithaca.
>>I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
>> No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
>> Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
> You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
> Your 2 wrongs certainly don't make a right.Deacon is inexcusable , but
> in your case I suspect you're spending too much time near The City,
> JW . Ya'll need to come on out herah for a spell.
I live seventy miles north and west of NYC,
and haven't been there since 2001. I don't
single out Drake, I deplore all reviewers.
John Wiser
Jicotea Used Books
PO Box 136
Howells NY 10932-0136 USA
http://www.amazon.com/shops/ceeclef cee...@gmail.com
41° 29' 36.06" N 74° 29' 24.84" W
JDW
Dufus
Oct 7, 2012, 1:22:30 PM10/7/12
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>On Oct 6, 7:50 pm, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
> I simply asked "why" Hank Drake was worth "listening" to, always?
No, that's not what you asked.
> I simply asked "why" Hank Drake was worth "listening" to, always?
Your response to your enemy " wagnerfan " at the Cortot Anniversary
thread recently here :
"Only an idiot would have to consult Hank Drake (????) to be aware of
these errors.
But of course we know full well you qualify fully, Dickie.
TD "
wagnerfan
Oct 7, 2012, 7:51:37 PM10/7/12
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:52:09 -0700 (PDT), Dufus <steve...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Deacon hates Hank Drake because Drake called him out on a number of
issues over the years. Reading over Drakes reviews you can easily see
that, regardless of whether you agree with him or not, he has an
encyclopedic of recordered repertory and is a good guide on the
reference value of certain recordings (e.g the big Horowitz box).
Wagner fan
wrote:
issues over the years. Reading over Drakes reviews you can easily see
that, regardless of whether you agree with him or not, he has an
encyclopedic of recordered repertory and is a good guide on the
reference value of certain recordings (e.g the big Horowitz box).
Wagner fan
Lena
Oct 8, 2012, 9:38:20 AM10/8/12
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On Oct 6, 6:20 pm, MiNe 109 <smcelr...@POPaustin.rr.com> wrote:
> In article
> <a47a5584-6550-4b0b-9ff7-2845357b6...@q4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
(I'm a vigorous follower of the exact metronome marks by von
Blimpendimpf, Beethoven's downstairs naighbor. What they lack in
accuracy, they more than make up for in expediency. And it's good
for virtuosos everywhere that he's at least three times faster than
Czerny!)
L.
> In article
> <a47a5584-6550-4b0b-9ff7-2845357b6...@q4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Lena <emswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> > getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> > marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> > that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> > metronome marks on it. :) )
>
> Following Czerny's doesn't have the same authority!
>
(laugh)
> Lena <emswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> > getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> > marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> > that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> > metronome marks on it. :) )
>
> Following Czerny's doesn't have the same authority!
>
(I'm a vigorous follower of the exact metronome marks by von
Blimpendimpf, Beethoven's downstairs naighbor. What they lack in
accuracy, they more than make up for in expediency. And it's good
for virtuosos everywhere that he's at least three times faster than
Czerny!)
L.
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