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Subject: Re: New Bruggen Beethoven Cycle
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On Nov 11, 3:13=A0pm, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 7:43=A0pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 10, 12:28=A0pm, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 10, 7:04=A0am, "Gerard" <ghendrikse-nospa...@hotmail.com> wrot=
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> > > > wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> typed:
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> > > > > On Oct 25, 7:07 am, 3Bs <threebs...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Just discovered this was more than a rumor. In the US, Qualiton=
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> > > > > > it for $72, but you can order it direct from the orchestra's sh=
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> > > > > > for under 30 Euros, which is where I just placed my order.
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> > > > > >http://www.orchestra18c-webshop.com/epages/63024268.sf/en_GB/?
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> > > > > > Has anyone heard it?
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> > > > > Has anyone received it yet? =A0I ordered it two weeks ago, and no=
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> > > > It arrived within 2 days.
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> > > Thanks. =A0Mine arrived a few minutes ago....
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> > > Bill
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> > When you've listened to the whole set I hope come back here and give
> > us a review.
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> I've only listened to the first couple of discs, but based upon that,
> I agree with the sentiments expressed by others - that the
> interpretation is not much different from the Philips set, and that
> the sound isn't quite as good. =A0It sounds as though the venue is
> overreverberant, and the engineers avoided compensating for that by
> "spotlighting" certain instruments. =A0So the sound is consistent and
> fairly natural, but lacking in clarity. =A0On my system, it sounds
> rather like an undoctored recording made from the back of the hall.
> The music making is such that it's pretty easy to get past the sonics,
> but those who value clarity will not be satisfied. =A0BTW, I've only
> listened to the SACD layer, two channels (I think that there's a
> multichannel layer, but that's not relevant for me).
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> So this one is for Beethoven gluttons or Br=FCggen fans (and I'm both).
> If bought directly from the orchestra, the price is pretty
> reasonable. =A0If you want an SACD cycle, there are much better-sounding
> alternatives, and for HIP, I'd probably choose Krivine as the best
> combination of performance and sonics.
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Thanks very much for this report.   It sounds a bit disheartening.
And it's sad that it's sonics that undermines such an effort...

(So, should I open the CDs I just got? :) )

L.