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oppont wrote:
> Heard Chiu play sonatas #3 and #6 in Paris --- I thought his interpretations
> were beautifully 'modern' and a-national in the sense of avoiding the
> bombastic overtly Russian style versus the streamlined, cosmopolitan
> approach. His technique was astonishing --- completely fluent , virtually
> effortless. Am very happy with the Harmonia Mundi integrale.
>
> Bevan Davies <bevan...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> > Not a word about Frederic Chiu. Just curious as to why you don't mention
> > him.
> >
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You forgot a terrific 8 with Berman and a 6 with -- Van Cliburn!
For a 7th that is even more intense than Pollini (if you can believe it),
Petrov will knock your socks off. A truly psychotic vision - at least the
first two movements. Unfortunately, this Melodya LP has never been
transferred to CD AFAIK and this Holy Grail is extremely difficult to find.
Gilels is overpowering in the first movement of the eighth. No one
expresses the wretched ironies with such anguish and bitterness as he does.
Richter's 6th sonata is sometimes as volatile as Petrov's 7th.
One performance which shouldn't be missed, but only for an isolated section
of greatness, is Gavrilov's playing of the opening bars of the 3rd movement
of the 7th sonata. Calculating and relentless, he witholds a terrible
power, and this power *held in check* is terrifying to behold and will
induce panic in the listener. Beware! Now you will know what it is like to
be frozen in the approach of an oncoming tank.
Another isolated movement: Lavar Berman's live recital, 3rd movement of the
8th sonata. Hair-raising performance. Gavrilov is even faster, but there
is no tension, no agitation, and therefore no excitement.
-Max
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I don't know that I'd care to listen to anything every day :)
I have heard several of her 7ths in old live concerts and have
never been knocked out by any of them but it took me some time
to recuperate from the one last Saturday and I'm not sure I
have.
Extremely gripping, while often very ethereal and internal.
I've just never heard a rendition that made so much sense in the
first two movements, so that the return to the basic 2nd
movement theme that ordinarily annoys me was magical, like a
wistful but deep memory revisited.
I didn't hear the chord clusters as banged and dissonant but
as parts of chordal melodies under which several other melodies
were competing, all resolving appropriately. The last section
of that 2nd movement I never expect to hear done that well again
as it seemed almost superhuman. An incredibly intense
performance beautifully structured.
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I have Yakov Kasman on Calliope, and I like it a lot.
Also, although it only has the 5th sonata, I highly recommend
the all Prokofiev disk by Yekaterina Ervy-Novitskaya, a
volume in the BMG Russian Piano School series. It's
available at under $7 at Amazon, and very gutsy Prokofiev.
Includes Sarcasm, Visions Fugitives, and some other stuff.
Dan
One recording of the 5th I like a lot is by Katya Novitskaya on
BMG-Melodiya.
It was a part of the Russian Piano School series. The CD also includes
Sarcasms, Visions Fugitives and transcriptions from Romeo & Juliet.
Regards,
Sudhir
I recently heard Chiu give an astonishing performance of the First Violin
Sonata with Joshua Bell.
Back to the Prokofiev Sonatas, I'm glad that someone mentioned Berman's 8th.
Another great recording is Koroliov's 5th (Tacet), c/w wonderful Visions
fugitives.
AC
MacLachlan (yes) in 1, 4 (beautiful, beautiful piece- Robinson is imho
wrong to dismiss it), 5 (almost as good), 9 (another winner) and a fragment
of 10 (all there is of it, or is there another recording with more of
the sketch- I forget)
-Eric Schissel
>Berman's 8th never made it to CD, did it (also the Scriabin 3rd)?
>
>
>
May be you're thinking of Gould, whose Proko #7 went with Scriabin #3 (both
excellent performances and liner notes almost as good.) Berman's #8 on DG was
coupled with Rach Moments Musicaux.
> Heard Chiu play sonatas #3 and #6 in Paris --- I thought his interpretations
> were beautifully 'modern' and a-national in the sense of avoiding the
> bombastic overtly Russian style versus the streamlined, cosmopolitan
> approach. His technique was astonishing --- completely fluent , virtually
> effortless. Am very happy with the Harmonia Mundi integrale.
>
> Bevan Davies <bevan...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:NzSE4.1747$is2.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Not a word about Frederic Chiu. Just curious as to why you don't mention
> > him.
I have the Chiu set and enjoy it quite a bit. However, the Chiu is
the only set I have or have heard, so I have no opinion on how the
Chiu set compares to any other. In the more popular sonatas, Chiu
compares favorably with Richter, Gilels, and Glemser.
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Second the recommendation for Glemser. I was listening to Glemser
in my office when my boss walked in. He exclaimed, "That rocks!".
A perceptive observation. Glemser is one of the best of the
percusive school of Prokofiev piano playing.
>Berman's 8th never made it to CD, did it (also the Scriabin 3rd)?
Alas not - nor is towering performance of Scriabin #1 .
Sokolov's 8th on op 111 is a fine, typically deep and thougtful performance
which I've warmed to over the years. He plays the 7th in recital and there is a
recording on Melodya but its very illusive. If anyone stumbles across a tape of
Sokolov's 7th, grab it !
Garvrilov plays the 8th very well too.
Neil
Yes, yes, yes! I wonder what became of her! This is a fantastic
recording, as fresh as Prokofiev is ever likely to sound.
I love Pollini's 7th, but lately I have grown to like his antidote:
Gavrilov's recording (coupled with his recordings of Prokofiev's 3rd and
8th sonatas) on DG Galleria. This is worth investigating if you rebel
against the super-virtuosic approach to this music.
RK
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Before you buy.
If you want to try just one CD instead of the set, I'd say get the one
with 4,5, and 6.
wr
I have those myself, and I like them (partly because of the rich sound),
but I don't have any other versions to compare them to except for the ones
in the Richter "Great Pianists of the Century" volumes.
Ondine has just reissued them in a two-disc set, or is about to do so.
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Anyone else familiar with this integrale?
pgaron
I have Nissman's Prokofiev sonata cycle and like it, though not in
preference to Richter, Gilels, Pollini, Pogorelich and others. One
curious thing about Nissman's release is that her third volume includes,
in addition to the Ninth sonata, a 43-second fragment from Sonata No.
10, Op. 137. I didn't even know this existed. Does anyone know the
status of what Prokofiev left behind of this sonata? Is this all there
is?
RK
Ferd Op de Coul
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In the liner notes to her Russian Piano School CD, it says she
dropped out to get married to some one in Belgium (IIRC), and
now she is a teacher there.
Regards,
Sudhir
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