> > On Nov 11, 3:13 pm, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:

> > > On Nov 10, 7:43 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > On Nov 10, 12:28 pm, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:

> > > > > On Nov 10, 7:04 am, "Gerard" <ghendrikse-nospa...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> typed:

> > > > > > > On Oct 25, 7:07 am, 3Bs <threebs...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Just discovered this was more than a rumor. In the US, Qualiton has
> > > > > > > > it for $72, but you can order it direct from the orchestra's shop
> > > > > > > > for under 30 Euros, which is where I just placed my order.

> > > > > > > >http://www.orchestra18c-webshop.com/epages/63024268.sf/en_GB/?

> > > > > > > > Has anyone heard it?

> > > > > > > Has anyone received it yet?  I ordered it two weeks ago, and no sign
> > > > > > > of it.

> > > > > > It arrived within 2 days.

> > > > > Thanks.  Mine arrived a few minutes ago....

> > > > > Bill

> > > > When you've listened to the whole set I hope come back here and give
> > > > us a review.

> > > I've only listened to the first couple of discs, but based upon that,
> > > I agree with the sentiments expressed by others - that the
> > > interpretation is not much different from the Philips set, and that
> > > the sound isn't quite as good.  It sounds as though the venue is
> > > overreverberant, and the engineers avoided compensating for that by
> > > "spotlighting" certain instruments.  So the sound is consistent and
> > > fairly natural, but lacking in clarity.  On my system, it sounds
> > > rather like an undoctored recording made from the back of the hall.
> > > The music making is such that it's pretty easy to get past the sonics,
> > > but those who value clarity will not be satisfied.  BTW, I've only
> > > listened to the SACD layer, two channels (I think that there's a
> > > multichannel layer, but that's not relevant for me).

> > > So this one is for Beethoven gluttons or Brüggen fans (and I'm both).
> > > If bought directly from the orchestra, the price is pretty
> > > reasonable.  If you want an SACD cycle, there are much better-sounding
> > > alternatives, and for HIP, I'd probably choose Krivine as the best
> > > combination of performance and sonics.

> > Thanks very much for this report.   It sounds a bit disheartening.
> > And it's sad that it's sonics that undermines such an effort...

> > (So, should I open the CDs I just got? :) )

> Don't. Open. The. Box.

> Put it away. Forget about it...then in a few months or so, buy another
> copy by mistake and confirm your interest.