Beethoven/Gielen mp3 for $10

[Greg]

I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-complete-symphonies

This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
(for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
contains 1 disc or several. Unfortunately the site is so poorly
organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:

Gielen's Mahler cycle for $9.99:
http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/mahler-symphonies-nos-1-9

Belohlavek's Onyx Martinu cycle for $9.99:
http://us.7digital.com/artist/bbc-symphonie-orchestra-jiri-belohlavek/release/martinu-the-6-symphonies

Norrington's Haydn Londons for $9.99:
http://us.7digital.com/artist/roger-norrington/release/haydn-j-the-12-london-symphonies

Shelley's recent 4 disc Beethoven concerto set on Chandos for $9.99:
http://us.7digital.com/artist/howard-shelley/release/beethoven-complete-works-for-piano-and-orchestra

And, finally, Vanska et al's 15 disc Sibelius set on Bis for $9.99:
http://us.7digital.com/artist/osmo-vanska/release/sibelius-the-essential


If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
the findings here...)

Greg

[wade]

did they say anywhere whether their M4A files were AAC (lossy) or ALAC (lossless) encoded?

[wkasimer]

On Aug 15, 9:42 pm, Greg <oneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
> poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
> the findings here...)

The Alexander Quartet's set of Beethoven Quartets:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/alexander-string-quartet/release/beethoven-the-complete-string-quartets

Unfortunately, only MP3 files at 192 kbps. A shame, because on CD,
this set sounds fabulous.

Bill

[Greg]

On Aug 16, 11:08 am, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:42:56 PM UTC-7, Greg wrote:
> > I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
>
> > Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
>
> > 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
>

> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-co...

>
> > This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
>
> > (for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
>
> > contains 1 disc or several.  Unfortunately the site is so poorly
>
> > organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
>
> > few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:
>
> > Gielen's Mahler cycle for $9.99:
>

> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/mahler-symphonie...

>
> > Belohlavek's Onyx Martinu cycle for $9.99:
>

> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/bbc-symphonie-orchestra-jiri-belohlavek...

>
> > Norrington's Haydn Londons for $9.99:
>

> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/roger-norrington/release/haydn-j-the-12...

>
> > Shelley's recent 4 disc Beethoven concerto set on Chandos for $9.99:
>

> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/howard-shelley/release/beethoven-comple...

>
> > And, finally, Vanska et al's 15 disc Sibelius set on Bis for $9.99:
>
> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/osmo-vanska/release/sibelius-the-essential
>
> > If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
>
> > poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
>
> > the findings here...)
>
> > Greg
>
> did they say anywhere whether their M4A files were AAC (lossy) or ALAC (lossless) encoded?

I believe they are 320 kbps as well (AAC)

Greg

[wade]

On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:42:56 PM UTC-7, Greg wrote:

so if the bit sampling rates are the same, which is better, MP-3 or M4A?

[rapu...@spiritone.com]

On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:42:56 PM UTC-7, Greg wrote:

Also the Boult Schumann/Berlioz set for $9.99

Stan Punzel

[Bastian Kubis]

On 08/16/2012 03:42 AM, Greg wrote:
> [...]
>
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-complete-symphonies
>
> [etc.]

Side remark: if you, like me, are not in the US, you'll likely get a
message "Sorry, but in accordance with our contractual obligations with
the labels, you can only purchase from 7digital.us if you live in the
United States.". You can however find the same items in your "local"
store by replacing "us." by "de.", "nl.", "fr." etc. in the address
above, keeping the rest the same. [The price then changes from $9.99 to
9.99 Euros...]

Bastian

[Greg]

On Aug 17, 4:13 am, Bastian Kubis <Bastian.Ku...@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 08/16/2012 03:42 AM, Greg wrote:
>
> > [...]
>

> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-co...

>
> > [etc.]
>
> Side remark: if you, like me, are not in the US, you'll likely get a
> message "Sorry, but in accordance with our contractual obligations with
> the labels, you can only purchase from 7digital.us if you live in the
> United States.".  You can however find the same items in your "local"
> store by replacing "us." by "de.", "nl.", "fr." etc. in the address
> above, keeping the rest the same.  [The price then changes from $9.99 to
> 9.99 Euros...]
>
> Bastian

Then you'd better hurry before the Euro collapses...


A few more multi-disc sets for $10:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/emmanuel-krivine/release/beethoven-symphonies
http://us.7digital.com/artist/ensemble-orchestral-de-paris-john-nelson-%281%29/release/beethoven-symphonies-1-9-1
http://us.7digital.com/artist/jörg-demus/release/schumann-the-complete-piano-works
http://us.7digital.com/artist/various-artists/release/mozart-w-a-complete-symphonies
http://us.7digital.com/artist/talich-quartet/release/mozart-the-complete-string-quartets
http://us.7digital.com/artist/jan-panenka-josef-suk/release/beethoven-complete-violin-sonatas
http://us.7digital.com/artist/peter-takacs/release/beethoven-the-complete-piano-sonatas
http://us.7digital.com/artist/carl-schuricht/release/carl-schuricht-edition

And, for anyone interested in the Shelley Beethoven piano concertos, I
bought them from this site, and all the 1st movements have problems -
the timings of the files are several minutes shorter than they should
be. I listened to 3.i and 5.i, and somewhere in the middle of the
movement the music suddenly skips ahead. This is true of both the mp3
and the aac files. Fortunately, the tracks in the Gielen Beethoven
cycle seem fine.

Greg

[wkasimer]

On Aug 15, 9:42 pm, Greg <oneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
> poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
> the findings here...)

The Borodin Quartet's set of Beethoven Quartets on Chandos:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/borodin-string-quartet/release/beethoven-l-van-string-quartets-complete

Bill

[wkasimer]

Not quite as big a bargain (particularly for 192 kbps), but here's the
LvB late quartets by the Smetana Quartet:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/smetana-quartet/release/beethoven-string-quartets-nos-11-16-incl-grosse-fuge-smetana-quartet

Bill

[hiker_rs]

On Aug 17, 8:43 am, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Not quite as big a bargain (particularly for 192 kbps), but here's the
> LvB late quartets by the Smetana Quartet:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/smetana-quartet/release/beethoven-strin...
>
> Bill
>
>

I bought one set but all of the mp3 files are zero (0) bytes in
length. I've contacted 7 digital about this.

Rich

[Bob Harper]

On 8/17/12 5:46 AM, Greg wrote:
> On Aug 17, 4:13 am, Bastian Kubis<Bastian.Ku...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 08/16/2012 03:42 AM, Greg wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>
>>> http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-co...
>>
>>> [etc.]
>>
>> Side remark: if you, like me, are not in the US, you'll likely get a
>> message "Sorry, but in accordance with our contractual obligations with
>> the labels, you can only purchase from 7digital.us if you live in the
>> United States.". You can however find the same items in your "local"
>> store by replacing "us." by "de.", "nl.", "fr." etc. in the address
>> above, keeping the rest the same. [The price then changes from $9.99 to
>> 9.99 Euros...]
>>
>> Bastian
>
> Then you'd better hurry before the Euro collapses...
>
>
> A few more multi-disc sets for $10:
>
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/emmanuel-krivine/release/beethoven-symphonies
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/ensemble-orchestral-de-paris-john-nelson-%281%29/release/beethoven-symphonies-1-9-1

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/j�rg-demus/release/schumann-the-complete-piano-works

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/various-artists/release/mozart-w-a-complete-symphonies
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/talich-quartet/release/mozart-the-complete-string-quartets
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/jan-panenka-josef-suk/release/beethoven-complete-violin-sonatas
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/peter-takacs/release/beethoven-the-complete-piano-sonatas
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/carl-schuricht/release/carl-schuricht-edition
>
> And, for anyone interested in the Shelley Beethoven piano concertos, I
> bought them from this site, and all the 1st movements have problems -
> the timings of the files are several minutes shorter than they should
> be. I listened to 3.i and 5.i, and somewhere in the middle of the
> movement the music suddenly skips ahead. This is true of both the mp3
> and the aac files. Fortunately, the tracks in the Gielen Beethoven
> cycle seem fine.
>
> Greg

All very interesting, but given the 192kbps sampling rate (why on earth
couldn't they have gone to 256 at least?) I'm not giving any of these a
thought.

Bob Harper

[hiker_rs]

On Aug 17, 7:46 am, Greg <oneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 4:13 am, Bastian Kubis <Bastian.Ku...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 08/16/2012 03:42 AM, Greg wrote:
>
> > > [...]
>
> > >http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-co...
>
> > > [etc.]
>
> > Side remark: if you, like me, are not in the US, you'll likely get a
> > message "Sorry, but in accordance with our contractual obligations with
> > the labels, you can only purchase from 7digital.us if you live in the
> > United States.".  You can however find the same items in your "local"
> > store by replacing "us." by "de.", "nl.", "fr." etc. in the address
> > above, keeping the rest the same.  [The price then changes from $9.99 to
> > 9.99 Euros...]
>
> > Bastian
>
> Then you'd better hurry before the Euro collapses...
>
> A few more multi-disc sets for $10:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/emmanuel-krivine/release/beethoven-symp...http://us.7digital.com/artist/ensemble-orchestral-de-paris-john-nelso...http://us.7digital.com/artist/jörg-demus/release/schumann-the-complete-piano-workshttp://us.7digital.com/artist/various-artists/release/mozart-w-a-comp...http://us.7digital.com/artist/talich-quartet/release/mozart-the-compl...http://us.7digital.com/artist/jan-panenka-josef-suk/release/beethoven...http://us.7digital.com/artist/peter-takacs/release/beethoven-the-comp...http://us.7digital.com/artist/carl-schuricht/release/carl-schuricht-e...

>
> And, for anyone interested in the Shelley Beethoven piano concertos, I
> bought them from this site, and all the 1st movements have problems -
> the timings of the files are several minutes shorter than they should
> be.  I listened to 3.i and 5.i, and somewhere in the middle of the
> movement the music suddenly skips ahead.  This is true of both the mp3
> and the aac files.  Fortunately, the tracks in the Gielen Beethoven
> cycle seem fine.
>
> Greg
>
>

Many (though not all) of the "bargains" on 7digital's site are the
same ones you can still find on CD Universe's site, and CD Universe
has a better search engine). (This may matter only if you're in the US
because I think CDU is US only.)

Rich

[wkasimer]

On Aug 17, 10:37 am, Bob Harper <bob.har...@comcast.net> wrote:

> All very interesting, but given the 192kbps sampling rate (why on earth
> couldn't they have gone to 256 at least?) I'm not giving any of these a
> thought.

The ones I bought have a 320 sampling rate, and sound fine.

Bill

[wkasimer]

On Aug 17, 10:29 am, hiker_rs <schie...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I bought one set but all of the mp3 files are zero (0) bytes in
> length. I've contacted 7 digital about this.

I've bought three sets (Gielen Beethoven, Essential Sibelius, and LvB
Quartets with the Borodin), and all seem fine.

Bill

[wkasimer]

And Geringas playing the Beethoven music for cello and piano, with Ian
Fountain:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/david-geringas/release/beethoven-complete-works-for-cello-and-piano

Bill

[Alan Cooper]

Greg <onei...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:0f0e58ca-3421-47ac...@k3g2000vby.googlegroups.c
om:

> On Aug 17, 4:13�am, Bastian Kubis <Bastian.Ku...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 08/16/2012 03:42 AM, Greg wrote:
>>
>> > [...]
>>
>> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-
>> >the-co...
>>
>> > [etc.]
>>
>> Side remark: if you, like me, are not in the US, you'll likely
>> get a message "Sorry, but in accordance with our contractual
>> obligations with the labels, you can only purchase from
>> 7digital.us if you live in the United States.". �You can
>> however find the same items in your "local" store by replacing
>> "us." by "de.", "nl.", "fr." etc. in the address above, keeping
>> the rest the same. �[The price then changes from $9.99 t
> o
>> 9.99 Euros...]
>>
>> Bastian
>
> Then you'd better hurry before the Euro collapses...
>
>
> A few more multi-disc sets for $10:
>
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/emmanuel-krivine/release/beethoven-
> symphonies
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/ensemble-orchestral-de-paris-john-n
> elson-%281%29/release/beethoven-symphonies-1-9-1

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/j�rg-demus/release/schumann-the-com
> plete-piano-works
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/various-artists/release/mozart-w-a-
> complete-symphonies
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/talich-quartet/release/mozart-the-c
> omplete-string-quartets
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/jan-panenka-josef-suk/release/beeth
> oven-complete-violin-sonatas
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/peter-takacs/release/beethoven-the-
> complete-piano-sonatas
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/carl-schuricht/release/carl-schuric

> ht-edition
>
> And, for anyone interested in the Shelley Beethoven piano
> concertos, I bought them from this site, and all the 1st
> movements have problems - the timings of the files are several
> minutes shorter than they should be. I listened to 3.i and 5.i,
> and somewhere in the middle of the movement the music suddenly
> skips ahead. This is true of both the mp3 and the aac files.
> Fortunately, the tracks in the Gielen Beethoven cycle seem fine.

Concerning the truncated files, did you download them using 7digital's own
downloader? I experienced many errors when using it, not only corrupted files but
also files that were marked as successfully downloaded and then were nowhere to be
found on my computer! I never had a problem when I circumvented the downloader.
Try doing that if you haven't already, assuming that 7digital still allows you to
do so.

AC

[Greg]

On Aug 17, 11:20 am, Alan Cooper <amcoo...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
<snip>

>
> Concerning the truncated files, did you download them using 7digital's own
> downloader?  I experienced many errors when using it, not only corrupted files but
> also files that were marked as successfully downloaded and then were nowhere to be
> found on my computer!  I never had a problem when I circumvented the downloader.
> Try doing that if you haven't already, assuming that 7digital still allows you to
> do so.
>
> AC

Yes, I tried that as well (for one of the files anyway). Same exact
track length for the mp3 and aac files in the zips as the single file
downloaded via the download manager. It is odd because the files are
not truncated but instead skip material in the middle and then go on
to have the normal ending. And this problem afflicts all the first
movements, but not the 2nd or 3rd (I think, based on track lengths -
haven't listened to them all to check.) I sent them a note to
complain, but I don't know if they have responded yet.

Greg

[Greg]

ditto here

Greg

[hiker_rs]

On Aug 15, 8:42 pm, Greg <oneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-co...

>
> This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
> (for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
> contains 1 disc or several.  Unfortunately the site is so poorly
> organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
> few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:
>

> Gielen's Mahler cycle for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/mahler-symphonie...
>
> Belohlavek's Onyx Martinu cycle for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/bbc-symphonie-orchestra-jiri-belohlavek...
>
> Norrington's Haydn Londons for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/roger-norrington/release/haydn-j-the-12...
>
> Shelley's recent 4 disc Beethoven concerto set on Chandos for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/howard-shelley/release/beethoven-comple...

>
> And, finally, Vanska et al's 15 disc Sibelius set on Bis for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/osmo-vanska/release/sibelius-the-essential
>
> If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
> poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
> the findings here...)
>
> Greg
>
>

Here's a few more:

Dvorák: The Essential String Quartets - Panocha Quartet (3 CD)

http://us.7digital.com/artist/panocha-quartet/release/dvorak-the-essential-string-quartet

Martinu: String Quartets - Panocha Quartet (3 CD)

http://us.7digital.com/artist/panocha-quartet/release/martinu-string-quartets-complete

Dvorák: Chamber Works - Panocha Quartet Suk Trio (4 CD)
**(192 kbps)**
http://us.7digital.com/artist/panocha-quartet-suk-trio/release/dvorak-chamber-works

Beethoven Sonatas - Oppitz (7 CDs)

http://us.7digital.com/artist/gerhard-oppitz/release/beethoven-l-van-piano-sonatas-complete

Dvorák: Symphonies 1-9 Valek (6 CD)

http://us.7digital.com/artist/prague-radio-symphony-orchestra-vladimir-valek/release/dvorak-symphonies-1-9

-Rich

[Greg]

More:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/richard-hickox/release/frank-bridge-orchestral-works
http://us.7digital.com/artist/vernon-handley/release/bax-a-symphonies-nos-1-7-rogues-comedy-overture-tintagel
http://us.7digital.com/artist/manfred-huss/release/haydn-the-complete-early-divertimenti
http://us.7digital.com/artist/noriko-ogawa/release/debussy-the-solo-piano-works
http://us.7digital.com/artist/bernard-haitink-london-symphony-orchestra/release/beethoven-symphonies-nos-1-9
http://us.7digital.com/artist/marek-janowski/release/wagner-parsifal
http://us.7digital.com/artist/marek-janowski/release/wagner-die-meistersinger-von-nurnberg
http://us.7digital.com/artist/dmitry-sitkovetsky/release/mozart-complete-sonatas-for-piano-and-violin
http://us.7digital.com/artist/otmar-suitner-staatskapelle-dresden/release/mozart-famous-symphonies-serenades-and-concertos
http://us.7digital.com/artist/andrew-manze/release/brahms-complete-symphonies
http://us.7digital.com/artist/sviatoslav-richter-%282%29/release/beethoven-sonatas-haydn-sonata-schubert-impromptu-et-al
http://us.7digital.com/artist/tokyo-string-quartet/release/beethoven-the-late-string-quartets
http://us.7digital.com/artist/frederic-chiu/release/prokofiev-complete-music-for-solo-piano
http://us.7digital.com/artist/neeme-jarvi/release/tchaikovsky-orchestral-works-including-symphonies-1-6
http://us.7digital.com/artist/tom-beghin/release/the-virtual-haydn-complete-works-for-solo-keyboard
http://us.7digital.com/artist/ladislav-slovak/release/shostakovich-d-complete-symphonies
http://us.7digital.com/artist/london-philharmonic-orchestra-sir-adrian-boult-1/release/sir-adrian-boult-conducts-elgar

Greg

[Bob Harper]

Then I was mistaken; I thought someone had said all were 192. 320's
fine, though FLAC would be better.

Bob Harper

[Matthew�B.�Tepper]

Alan Cooper <amco...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> appears to have caused the
following letters to be typed in
news:XnsA0B27349DCE13am...@209.197.15.254:

> Concerning the truncated files, did you download them using 7digital's own
> downloader? I experienced many errors when using it, not only corrupted
> files but also files that were marked as successfully downloaded and then
> were nowhere to be found on my computer! I never had a problem when I
> circumvented the downloader. Try doing that if you haven't already,
> assuming that 7digital still allows you to do so.

I'm more and more suspicious of special "downloaders"; about the only one I
trust these days is from Audible.com.

--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!!
Read about "Proty" here: http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/proty.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers.

[Kip Williams]

Greg wrote, On 8/17/12 11:37 AM:

The Schumann set says it's 192.


Kip W

[rapu...@spiritone.com]

I've been able to download via the downloader, but the problem is that even though it looks like the files are there, there is nothing in the file. If I look at properties I can see the that there are 0 bytes in the file. I am awaiting a response. I did however get the Boult Schumann/Berlioz set with no problem, burned the discs and have listened in bits just to see how things came out. I'll keep trying for the Gielen Mahler...

Stan Punzel

[Doug McDonald]

It appears different labels are different bitrates.

Bis and Chandos are 320K, at least the ones I looked at.
I got the Bis Sibelius, even though I have several of the
recordings at lower bitrates ... but all the 19 hours!
I'm also downloading the Bax now. Downloads are slooooooowwww.

Doug McDonald

[John Thomas]

On Aug 17, 6:36 am, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The Borodin Quartet's set of Beethoven Quartets on Chandos:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/borodin-string-quartet/release/beethove...
>
> Bill

Do you know if this is the original Borodin Quartet or its later
incarnation?

[Gerard]

John Thomas <abras...@gmail.com> typed:

I don't think that the Borodin Quartet has recorded the Beethoven quartets more
than once. At least not for Chandos.
These are the members on the Chandos recording:

Borodin Quartet (Ruben Aharonian (violin), Andre Abramenkov (violin), Igor
Naidin (viola), Valentin Berlinsky (cello))
rec. Small Hall, and Great Hall, Conservatory, Moscow, Russia, 2003-2006.

[Bob Harper]

There is (or was) a set of Op. 18 with the old members (Dubinsky,
Alexandrov, Shebalin, Berlinsky) reissued on Chandos Historical (CHAN
10009). I am not aware of any other Beethoven by that lineup.

Bob Harper

[Matthew Silverstein]

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:42:56 -0700 (PDT), Greg wrote:

> I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:

How does this compare to Gielen's superb EMI Beethoven cycle?

Matty

[Greg]

On Aug 20, 2:50 pm, Matthew Silverstein

No idea, as I have never heard the EMI cycle. Is it for sale
anywhere?

Fwiw, so far I have only listened to the 6th from this newer cycle,
and found it good but not a challenger to my favorites.

Greg

[jrsnfld]

Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem to
prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the audio-
only version that Hanssler is now issuing).

--Jeff

[Matthew Silverstein]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:17:19 -0700 (PDT), jrsnfld wrote:

> Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
> tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem to
> prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the audio-
> only version that Hanssler is now issuing).

I admit that I haven't listened to the whole thing in quite a while. The
EMI recording of the 5th, though, remains one of my favorites.

Matty

[hiker_rs]

I have the same problem (for DLing the Alexander SQ's Beethoven) -
files are there but they are empty (0 bytes).

After complaining 7digital sent me the following note:

Hello,

We are extremely sorry for the problem you have encountered.

We are experiencing a few technical difficulties and we are currently
unable to deliver the item you have purchased. We hope to resolve this
issue very soon, but if you do not wish to wait any longer, we will be
happy to issue you with a full refund or to exchange your purchase for
something of a similar value.

Please let us know which option you would like to take.

Again, please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Thanks,
7digital Customer Services

[Oscar]

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:28:57 PM, Matthew Silverstein wrote:
>
> > Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
> > tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem to
> > prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the audio-
> > only version that Hanssler is now issuing).
>
> I admit that I haven't listened to the whole thing in quite a while. The
> EMI recording of the 5th, though, remains one of my favorites.

I concur. The opening Allegro con brio is one of the most wicked and demonic-sounding versions on disc. It's loud. The entire symphony is flexible yet rock solid. As all-out as the SWF players put out (it is an energetic performance), the star in my opinion is Gielen, who is an admirable marshal, highlighting everything masterfully and keeping dynamic tension and tempos in perfect proportion. Great Fifth, definitely one of the top modern instrument, DDD versions.

A Production of Südwestfunk Baden-Baden
Recorded in August & September, 1992.
Sound supervision: Bernhard Mangold-Märkel
Sound engineer: Frank Wild
Editing: Bernhard Mangold-Markel

[Gerard]

Oscar <oscaredwar...@gmail.com> typed:

> On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:28:57 PM, Matthew Silverstein wrote:
> >
> > > Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
> > > tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem
> > > to prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the
> > > audio- only version that Hanssler is now issuing).
> >
> > I admit that I haven't listened to the whole thing in quite a
> > while. The EMI recording of the 5th, though, remains one of my
> > favorites.
>
> I concur. The opening Allegro con brio is one of the most wicked and
> demonic-sounding versions on disc. It's loud. The entire symphony is
> flexible yet rock solid. As all-out as the SWF players put out (it is
> an energetic performance), the star in my opinion is Gielen, who is
> an admirable marshal, highlighting everything masterfully and keeping
> dynamic tension and tempos in perfect proportion. Great Fifth,
> definitely one of the top modern instrument, DDD versions.
>

I don't "get" this. I just listened to the opening movement, and I think it's
good, but not something special.
To which other recordings did you compare this?

[wade]

Anyone else having problems opening the Oppitz Beethoven Zip file? I am using 7Zip and get an error even after re-downloading. For the Talich Mozart quartets I found that there was a secondary Zip file inside that i was able to unzip but I cannot get "inside" the Oppitz zip folder to see the contents. Same happened with the Vanska Sibelius zip file.

[rapu...@spiritone.com]

On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:42:56 PM UTC-7, Greg wrote:
> I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
>
> Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
>
> 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
>
>
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-complete-symphonies

>
>
>
> This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
>
> (for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
>
> contains 1 disc or several. Unfortunately the site is so poorly
>
> organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
>
> few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:
>
>
>
> Gielen's Mahler cycle for $9.99:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/mahler-symphonies-nos-1-9

Make sure one tried to listen to the excerpts first as I tried ordering this and the files weren't there and still aren't. They ended up refunding my money because they could not supply the music files.

>
>

>
> Belohlavek's Onyx Martinu cycle for $9.99:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/bbc-symphonie-orchestra-jiri-belohlavek/release/martinu-the-6-symphonies

>
>
>
> Norrington's Haydn Londons for $9.99:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/roger-norrington/release/haydn-j-the-12-london-symphonies

>
>
>
> Shelley's recent 4 disc Beethoven concerto set on Chandos for $9.99:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/howard-shelley/release/beethoven-complete-works-for-piano-and-orchestra

[The Historian]

On Aug 15, 9:42 pm, Greg <oneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-co...

>
> This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
> (for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
> contains 1 disc or several.  Unfortunately the site is so poorly
> organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
> few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:
>

> Gielen's Mahler cycle for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/mahler-symphonie...
>
> Belohlavek's Onyx Martinu cycle for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/bbc-symphonie-orchestra-jiri-belohlavek...
>
> Norrington's Haydn Londons for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/roger-norrington/release/haydn-j-the-12...
>
> Shelley's recent 4 disc Beethoven concerto set on Chandos for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/howard-shelley/release/beethoven-comple...

>
> And, finally, Vanska et al's 15 disc Sibelius set on Bis for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/osmo-vanska/release/sibelius-the-essential
>
> If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
> poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
> the findings here...)
>
> Greg

Add Markl's more than complete orchestral works of Debussy to the
list:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/various-artists/release/debussy-complete-orchestral-works

It's more than complete because it includes many, many orchestrations
of Debussy piano music by others.

Valek's Tchaikovsky Symphonies 1 to 6

http://us.7digital.com/artist/prague-radio-symphony-orchestra-vladimir-valek/release/tchaikovsky-symphonys-no-1-6

Valek's Martinu:

http://us.7digital.com/artist/prague-radio-symphony-orchestra-vladimir-valek/release/martinu-symfonies-nos-1-6

[The Historian]

On Oct 13, 1:54 pm, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 15, 9:42 pm, Greg <oneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> > Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> > 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
>
> >http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/beethoven-the-co...
>
> > This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
> > (for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
> > contains 1 disc or several.  Unfortunately the site is so poorly
> > organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
> > few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:
>
> > Gielen's Mahler cycle for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/michael-gielen/release/mahler-symphonie...
>
> > Belohlavek's Onyx Martinu cycle for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/bbc-symphonie-orchestra-jiri-belohlavek...
>
> > Norrington's Haydn Londons for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/roger-norrington/release/haydn-j-the-12...
>
> > Shelley's recent 4 disc Beethoven concerto set on Chandos for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/howard-shelley/release/beethoven-comple...
>
> > And, finally, Vanska et al's 15 disc Sibelius set on Bis for $9.99:http://us.7digital.com/artist/osmo-vanska/release/sibelius-the-essential
>
> > If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
> > poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
> > the findings here...)
>
> > Greg
>
> Add Markl's more than complete orchestral works of Debussy to the
> list:
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/various-artists/release/debussy-complet...

>
> It's more than complete because it includes many, many orchestrations
> of Debussy piano music by others.
>
> Valek's Tchaikovsky Symphonies 1 to 6
>

> http://us.7digital.com/artist/prague-radio-symphony-orchestra-vladimi...
>
> Valek's Martinu:
>
> http://us.7digital.com/artist/prague-radio-symphony-orchestra-vladimi...

Add me to the chorus of people saying 7Digital's downloader is junk. I
wound up downloading half the tracks on the Markl Debussy set
individually, since the downloader truncated them. I'd give up on
them, but I'm tempted by the Krivine Beethoven, which doesn't seem to
be available in MP3 elsewhere. How is the Krivine set? A must hear or
just another Beethoven cycle?

[wade]

I maybe demonstrating ignorance, but why does 7digital list the Oppitz Beethoven Sonata 13 as "Der Vampyr"???

[wade]

On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:03:34 PM UTC-7, The Historian wrote:

I am not eagerly anticipating having to download the individual tracks of the BIS Sibelius set. Working thru downloading the individual Oppitz Beethoven tracks now. Works fine and they play without issue.