OT Ward, please explain to us lesser minds why this happened
ansermetniac
The Arabs tell the UN to go fuck themselves and pour their armies into
the new state from 5 sides. The UN does nothing
In 1950, the UN finally acts , but in a nation where there was no
resolution. They send an Army, which was really the US Army, to Korea.
Why was it not the Russian Army or the Chinese
Why did they allow the Arabs to piss and defecate on their resolution
but used military force where they had no resolution defied.
"History is lies agreed upon"
Napolean
"Ward Hardman believes and repaets those lies"
Abbedd
Abbedd
Ward Hardman
> in 1948 the UN votes on a resolution to create the State of Israel
You can blame a fair share of the Palestine/Israel problem on the
British, who promised the land of Palestine to both the Jews and the
Arabs during World War I, for aid in fighting the Ottoman Empire.
It's the "Promised (by the Brits) Land" for the Arabs too!
The Jewish god is claimed in myth as promising Canaan to the Jews,
but there were already people living there. The Hebrew god then
started his people on a course of genocide against the indigenous
peoples.
> The Arabs tell the UN to go fuck themselves and pour their armies into
> the new state from 5 sides. The UN does nothing
Did the Israelis need help? Their own terrorists did a pretty good
job
of blowing up things like the King David Hotel.
> In 1950, the UN finally acts , but in a nation where there was no
> resolution. They send an Army, which was really the US Army, to Korea.
> Why was it not the Russian Army or the Chinese
You should be able to answer that yourself. Russia, China, and North
Korea were all Communist regimes. They wouldn't fight their own kind.
Do you recall any wars between Commie regimes, except when one was
trying to secede from the other and had a boundary dispute, as with
Caucasian (not American!) Georgia.
> Why did they allow the Arabs to piss and defecate on their resolution
> but used military force where they had no resolution defied.
>
> "History is lies agreed upon"
>
> Napolean
There is a legend that NapoleOn prepared a proclamation "declaring a
Jewish state in Palestine" during the siege of Acre in 1799, but did
not issue it after Acre did not fall.
> "Ward Hardman believes and repaets those lies"
I gave you quotes from Truman's memoirs, quoting may be "repaeting,"
but it doesn't imply belief in the *truth* of the quote, just in the
accuracy of the attribution.
Have you been reading Daniel J. Goldhagen's new book "Worse Than War -
Genocide, Eliminationism, and the Ongoing Assault on Humanity"?
"Harry Truman, the thirty-third president of the United States, was
a mass murderer. He twice ordered nuclear bombs dropped on Japanese
cities. The first, a atomic bomb, exploded ove Hiroshima on
August 6, 1945, and the second, a nuclear bomb, detonated over
Nagasaki on August 9. Truman knew that each would kill thousands of
Japanese civilians who had no direct bearing on any military
operation, and who posed no immediate threat to Americans. In
effect, Truman chose to snuff out the lives of approximately
300,000 men, women, and children. ... It is hard to understand how
any right-thinking person could fail to call slaughtering
unthreatening Japanese MASS MURDER."
[I find his distinction between "atomic" and "nuclear" bombs odd.
The first bomb was an enriched uranium device and the second a
plutonium bomb. The usual distinction is between "nuclear" and
"thermonuclear" (hydrogen) bombs.]
"For many people, especially Americans, it just *feels* wrong, and
offensive, to speak of Truman in the same breath as Hitler, Joseph
Stalin, Mao Zhedong, and Pol Pot. Why? The latter four killers were
certifiable monsters. ... When one looks at Truman, one sees an
otherwise conventional man who committed monstrous deeds."
[Truman may have been unnerved by the heavy "kamikaze" losses
incurred by US Navy vessels at Okinawa, and assumed that all
Japanese would resist as fanatically.]
"The difficulty of keeping distinct the three tasks of definition,
explanation, and moral evaluation muddles considerations of mass
murder. ... We can, as a matter of fact, call Truman's annihilation
of Hiroshima and Nagasaki mass murder and the man a mass murderer,
putting Truman and his deeds in the same broad categories of
Hitler and the Holocaust, Stalin and the gulag, Pol Pot, Mao,
Saddam Hussein, and Slobodan Milosevic and their victims, without
giving the same explanation for Truman's actions as we do for
theirs,
and without judging them morally as being equivalent."
The policy of scrupulous avoidance of injury to innocent noncombatants
is impractical, because it gives rise to the use of "hostage shields."
An example of this is the Al Qaeda loading a woman and a child into an
SUV in which terrorist leaders will be ferried around. To my mind,
bombing or strafing the SUV and collaterally killing the hostages can
be justified by blaming their deaths on the hostage takers. Once this
policy becomes known, hostage taking should come to an end. I have
mentioned this in discussions of remotely controlled unmanned
aircraft.
I haven't gotten very far into Goldhagen's book (597 pages get you to
the Notes!). He also discusses "eliminationism," which may take in
Israel's confiscatory "settlements" in West Bank Palestinian areas.
It will be interesting to see whether he can handle that issue even-
handedly.
Anyone interested in all the facets of "The Decision to Use the Atomic
Bomb" can get an excellent exposition of the facts and issues in Gar
Alperovitz's 1995 book by that title (Vintage Books). (668 pages get
you to the Appendix. ;-)
--Ward Hardman
"The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence,
just simple competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
- H.L. Mencken
ansermetniac
You understand nothing
Abbedd
Ward Hardman
> You understand nothing
If you ever find yourself in a mood (and condition) where you can
express yourself clearly, feel free to do so!!!
So far all we can determine so far is that you are highly irritated by
events of 1948 and 1950. (And by poor Harry S Truman. ;-)
That's 59 years ago. It's time to get "Baaaaaaack toooo theeee
Present"!
Ward Moron
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Try again, retardman
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for atonement?
Kisses.
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Ward Hardman is an arsehole. Ward Hardman is a cunt. Ward Hardman is a lunatic. Ward Hardman is a Troll. Ward Hardman is a Spammer. Ward Hardman is a Kook. Ward Hardman is a Fraud. Ward Hardman is a Pig-Fucker.
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Ward Hardman keeps his poop in the icetray in the freezer and licks them when his wife is in the can. Ward Hardman keeps a little bag of ripe turds in his car to sniff at the lights.
Ward Hardman keeps his poop in the icetray in the freezer and licks it when his wife is in the can. Ward Hardman keeps a little bag of ripe turds in his car to sniff at the lights.
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'sub-thread'? What fucking lunatic asylum is Hardman in? There's no
such thing as a 'sub-thread'. Hypocritical asshole!
Ward Hardman keeps his poop in the icetray in the freezer and licks it when his wife is in the can. Ward Hardman keeps a little bag of ripe turds in his car to sniff at the lights.
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original subject restored, tardman
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Ward Hardman keeps his poop in the icetray in the freezer and licks it when his wife is in the can. Ward Hardman keeps a little bag of ripe turds in his car to sniff at the lights.
> [original sub-thread subject restored]
This one is just as valid. In fact more valid.
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a FAKE "Ward Hardman" and posting from the email address
"ward.hardmanI(AT)gmail.com" and the ip address
"88.208.236.35" wrote:
> Jeff, I apologize [snip]
This troll is a FAKE "Ward Hardman" posting out of
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The REAL "Ward Hardman" posts from the USA.
(And he's not a bloody pervert like "RMCReep." ;-)
Ward Hardman keeps his poop in the icetray in the freezer and licks it when his wife is in the can. Ward Hardman keeps a little bag of ripe turds in his car to sniff at the lights.
Proxies will make it look like you're posting from anywhere. Wardy is
a Tardy so he doesn't understand this. He doesn't understand why Mrs
Hardman won't share his bed since she found him rubbing turds into his
groin that horrible December day,