8.110987
CASALS, PABLO: Encores and Transcriptions, Vol. 5 - The Complete
Acoustic Recordings Vol. 3. Works by Chopin Bruch, Haydn,
Mendelssohn, Brahms, Tchaikovsky, etc. (Ward Marston, reissue
producer)
8.111237
SMETANA: Ma Vlast. Czech Philharmonic Orchestra / Vaclav Talich (rec.
1954). (Mark Obert-Thorn, reissue producer)
8.111226
STRAUSS II, JOHANN: Paraphrases and Piano Transcriptions by Dohnanyi,
Tausig, Schulhof, Niedzielski etc. An Anthology of Historic
Performances Vol. 1. (Victor and Marina Ledin, reissue producers)
8.111257
STRAUSS II, JOHANN: Wiener Blut. Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, Nicolai
Gedda, etc. Philharmonia Orchestra and Chorus / Otto Ackermann.
(Mark Obert-Thorn, reissue producer)
Mark Obert-Thorn
Hi Mark,
What were your sources for this and how does it compare with the
Supraphon 'Talich Gold' edition reissue?
Thanks.
RK
I used very quiet LP pressings. I haven't heard the new Talich Gold
edition, but I did compare it to the older Supraphon Talich CD from
about 15 years ago, and that one had pitch variations between the
movements (which are particularly startling when you go from Tabor to
Blanink!) which I corrected in my transfer.
Mark O-T
I always thought that Rediffusion LP issue from the 1980's sounded
better than the older cd issue........would be curious as well about
the "gold" issue.
Didn't the old cd edit out a few bars by mistake somewhere along the
way??
Neal
I have both the 1993 "Stamp Cover" disc and the new 2006 Gold edition.
I have just ripped Tabor and Blanik from both and checked them in
Adobe Audition and can report that Supraphon has corrected the pitch
problem in the Gold edition. Nevertheless I will still be happily
getting Mark's new transfer as the 54 Talich is my favorite recording
of Ma Vlast.
John
> 8.111257
> STRAUSS II, JOHANN: Wiener Blut. Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, Nicolai
> Gedda, etc. Philharmonia Orchestra and Chorus / Otto Ackermann.
> (Mark Obert-Thorn, reissue producer)
Haven't heard the new Naxos transfer, but I love this recording. The
young Gedda is in absolutely terrific voice, especially if you love
his exquisite mezza voce, as I most assuredly do: there is not the
least sign of strain or effort, only the most wonderfully relaxed
singing, the most sensitive music making. Schwarzkopf drops most of
her customary preciousness and turns in a reasonably unpretentious
performance. Not quite my favorite Wiener Blut -- that would be
Gueden, Schock, and Robert Stolz, who is simply incomparable in this
repertory, leaving poor Ackermann in the shade -- but this is a must
hear for admirers of Johann Strauss. Neither Ackermann nor Stolz is
uncut, although Ackermann is billed as the complete work, the more
complete Stolz as "highlights." (I only know Stolz from CD reissues:
there may have been a complete edition on LP. Denon issued what may
be the only absolutely uncut Wiener Blut ever recorded, but I haven't
heard it.)
I hope Naxos reissues the Gedda-Schwarzkopf-Ackermann Night in Venice,
which EMI unforgivably trimmed so it would fit on a single CD. For
that matter, I wish somebody would reissue the Nacht in Venedig with
Jeanette Scovotti, Wolfgang Brendel, and Carlo Bini with Ernst
Märzendorfer conducting. It's a mixed blessing, Bini in particular
being something of a trial to listen to, but Märzendorfer eschews the
emendations of Erich Korngold et al, although this set was not quite
the "Originalfassung" it was billed as. Acanta did issue excerpts
amounting to almost all of it.
-david gable
Perhaps the quality of the new Supraphon Gold edition and MOT's new
Naxos version will encourage you to rework the appalling transfer you
made of Virgil Fox.
That's the whole point of examples: follow them.
TD
This is already out on Naxos Historical 8.111254, but it does fit on
one CD as recorded. (I transferred it from the two-LP set, and the
final CD runs 78:51). Are you perhaps thinking of EMI's CD version of
The Merry Widow, which cut the overture and some of the dialog
originally issued on the LP set in order to fit it in as the filler
for The Land of Smiles? (For Naxos, The Land of Smiles appeared as a
two-CD set coupled with historic Lehar recordings, while Widow was
released complete as recorded on a separate single disc.)
Mark Obert-Thorn
> I have both the 1993 "Stamp Cover" disc and the new 2006 Gold edition.
> I have just ripped Tabor and Blanik from both and checked them in
> Adobe Audition and can report that Supraphon has corrected the pitch
> problem in the Gold edition. Nevertheless I will still be happily
> getting Mark's new transfer as the 54 Talich is my favorite recording
> of Ma Vlast.
Wow, multiple CDs of the same thing.
Have you gone after the Talich recordings from 1929 and 1941?
The 1929 cd can be bought on ebay or thru amazon marketplace but
where is the 1941?
> This [NIGHT IN VENICE w/Gedda, Ackermann] is already out on Naxos Historical 8.111254, but it does fit on
> one CD as recorded. (I transferred it from the two-LP set, and the
> final CD runs 78:51).
I've just checked the EMI issue, and it clocks in at a few seconds
longer than your 78:51, so I must have been thinking of the Merry
Widow. (The Wiener Blut, as you know, of course, fit on 3 LP sides
when first issued and was released with one blank side.)
-david gable
Yes, I have both of them. The 1929 version on Koch Historical and the
1941 on a Biddulph disc (WHL 049). Both excellent transfers by Ward
Marston.
John
You're such an amusing old DJ. You said you killfiled me during the
great Hatto debacle so why are you reading anything I post?
Gotcha HA HA HA HA HA
>On May 5, 1:19=EF=BF=BDpm, "david7ga...@aol.com"
>> I hope Naxos reissues the Gedda-Schwarzkopf-Ackermann Night in Venice,
>> which EMI unforgivably trimmed so it would fit on a single CD. =A0
>
>This is already out on Naxos Historical 8.111254, but it does fit on
>one CD as recorded. (I transferred it from the two-LP set, and the
>final CD runs 78:51). Are you perhaps thinking of EMI's CD version of
>The Merry Widow, which cut the overture and some of the dialog
>originally issued on the LP set in order to fit it in as the filler
>for The Land of Smiles? (For Naxos, The Land of Smiles appeared as a
>two-CD set coupled with historic Lehar recordings, while Widow was
>released complete as recorded on a separate single disc.)
>
>Mark Obert-Thorn
>
Wasn't the Merry Widow first cut to fit on its own single CD (CDH7
69520) at 71:37, and then presumably used as-was for the filler?
Don.
He is, incidentally, a curiously overlooked conductor...I think that his
recordings of the Haydn Symphonies may be just about the best, but made it
to cd only briefly, I believe and are damaged by rather poor sonics.
<david...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1178385544....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >Perhaps the quality of the new Supraphon Gold edition and MOT's new
> >Naxos version will encourage you to rework the appalling transfer you
> >made of Virgil Fox.
>
> >That's the whole point of examples: follow them.
>
> >TD
>
> You're such an amusing old DJ.
Never been a DJ in my life. Known many. Admired a few. But never
served in that capacity. Ever.
Pity you're such a lousy transfer engineer.
Really, appalling. Perhaps you took lessons from Jeffrey Powell?
> You said you killfiled me during the great Hatto debacle so why are you reading anything I post?
Reinstallment of Safari deleted all my previous settings.
Consider yourself properly ignored.
Guess I'll have to go back and killfile all those twits you call
friends.
TD
>On May 5, 6:40 pm, John Wilson <j...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> >Perhaps the quality of the new Supraphon Gold edition and MOT's new
>> >Naxos version will encourage you to rework the appalling transfer you
>> >made of Virgil Fox.
>>
>> >That's the whole point of examples: follow them.
>>
>> >TD
>>
>> You're such an amusing old DJ.
>
>Never been a DJ in my life. Known many. Admired a few. But never
>served in that capacity. Ever.
>
>
>TD
That's very peculiar since I and a number of other long time residents
of Los Angeles remember you spinning discs and talking about them on
air at KUSC. But then I suppose you want to forget all about it and
deny it ever happened since you were fired from that job.
JW
Tommy?????? in denial???????????????? perish the thought!!!!!!! Richard
Executive???????? Richard
> That's very peculiar since I and a number of other long time residents
> of Los Angeles remember you spinning discs and talking about them on
> air at KUSC.
Your memory is faulty.
I NEVER "spun discs" at KUSC.
I only ever appeared on air to raise money for the station during the
regular fund-raisers. I also co-hosted a programme called record
review programme called Counterpoint, in which I joined the host
Bonnie Grice to examine the latest CD releases. The programme lasted
one year. And the "disc spinning" as you call it was accomplished by a
very skilled audio engineer who also served with me to record the LA
Chamber orchestra.
End of story.
I have, however, as Executive Producer and Programme Director hired -
and fired - many radio hosts which you may refer to as "DJs". The CBC
doesn't have DJs, only programme hosts. The music is always selected
by a series of producers.
Now that we have cleared that up, you can go back and clean up that
atrocious transfer of Virgil Fox you "produced" (you can laugh now) in
his memory(sic!)
TD
>On May 6, 7:03 pm, John Wilson <j...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> That's very peculiar since I and a number of other long time residents
>> of Los Angeles remember you spinning discs and talking about them on
>> air at KUSC.
>
>
>Your memory is faulty.
You seem to be the one with the faulty memory. Yesterday you said you
Killfiled me again and here you are today reading my postings.
>
>I NEVER "spun discs" at KUSC.
>
It's a pity you are so ashamed of having been a DJ. But then it is
rather pathetic that you couldn't hold on to the job.
JW.