WB-C's e-check cleared
Frank Berger
Barrington-Coupe's e-mail address is:
O
<frank.d...@dal.frb.org> wrote:
Congratulations, Frank! Now you can buy the bubble gum at the next
RMCR gathering.
And also a modicum of respect for WBC (just a modicum, but it's a
start).
-Owen
Rugby
>
> And also a modicum of respect for WBC (just a modicum, but it's a
> start).
Surely, you jest ?!
Rugby
O
Rugby <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, so many thieves steal billions of dollars and never repay a penny.
WBC just paid Frank ~$400 USD, which, in view of WBC's impending legal
situation, is a somewhat considerable sum. That deserves a modicum of
respect -- I don't think that WBC is truly beyond the pale and
irretrievable, and I applaud and respect any effort towards
restitution.
-Owen
"Everybody wants to see justice done ----- to somebody else!"
-Mark Twain
ckho...@ckhowell.com
> Payment received.
Just out of interest, could you find time to watch e-bay now and then
to see if the discs you're returning come up for sale in the near
future? Only you can do this since only you know which discs they are.
Christopher
Paul Goldstein
>
>Payment received. If anyone wishes to pursue a refund himself, Mr.
>Barrington-Coupe's e-mail address is:
>
>william.barr...@ntlworld.com.
He'll send you a cheque.
Frank Berger
"Paul Goldstein" <pgol...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:fee5u...@drn.newsguy.com...
That would have been funny except for the context of this thread, in which
he actually already has refunded my money via an e-check to PayPal.
O
Reimer <wrdslremovethis濃pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article <081020071354335740%ow...@denofinequityx.com>,
> > ow...@denofinequityx.com says...
> > In article <1191865101.0...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > Rugby <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Oct 8, 12:33 pm, O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And also a modicum of respect for WBC (just a modicum, but it's a
> > > > start).
> > >
> > >
> > > Surely, you jest ?!
> >
> > Hey, so many thieves steal billions of dollars and never repay a penny.
> > WBC just paid Frank ~$400 USD, which, in view of WBC's impending legal
> > situation, is a somewhat considerable sum. That deserves a modicum of
> > respect -- I don't think that WBC is truly beyond the pale and
> > irretrievable, and I applaud and respect any effort towards
> > restitution.
> >
> Yeah, but you don't know who he stole the $400 from in order to pay
> Frank.
He might have used for part of the payment, the two Joyce Hatto disks
I bought, which I won't return, as they'll always remind me of Tom
Deacon.
-Owen
Frank Berger
<ckho...@ckhowell.com> wrote in message
news:1191869413.7...@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
Well, he said they would be destroyed. I suppose if they are marketed
honestly, he can sell them if he wants to. :-)
ckho...@ckhowell.com
> Well, he said they would be destroyed. I suppose if they are marketed
> honestly, he can sell them if he wants to. :-)
Well, I'd hope the law doesn't allow a man to put plagiaries on the
market, buy them back from duped customers when he gets found out and
then sell them second-hand at a higher price, blandly stating they are
"now not believed to be the work of JH". It's not quite the same thing
as duped customers selling them themselves.
Incidentally, if your returned discs include any of which the real
pianist is not yet identified, this amounts to an interesting
confession. I thought WBC was still claiming most of the stuff is
genuine.
Christopher
O
<ckho...@ckhowell.com> wrote:
That's what's also interesting, the paying of restitution in some cases
may be admission of guilt.
-Owen
td
> In article <MPG.217428e230150a3598a...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>, Wayne
>
>
>
> Reimer <wrdslremovethis¿@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > In article <081020071354335740%ow...@denofinequityx.com>,
> > > ow...@denofinequityx.com says...
> > > Rugby <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 8, 12:33 pm, O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > And also a modicum of respect for WBC (just a modicum, but it's a
> > > > > start).
>
> > > > Surely, you jest ?!
>
> > > Hey, so many thieves steal billions of dollars and never repay a penny.
> > > WBC just paid Frank ~$400 USD, which, in view of WBC's impending legal
> > > situation, is a somewhat considerable sum. That deserves a modicum of
> > > respect -- I don't think that WBC is truly beyond the pale and
> > > irretrievable, and I applaud and respect any effort towards
> > > restitution.
>
> > Yeah, but you don't know who he stole the $400 from in order to pay
> > Frank.
>
> He might have used for part of the payment, the two Joyce Hatto disks
> I bought, which I won't return, as they'll always remind me of Tom
> Deacon.
How sweet!
TD
O
<tomde...@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, but you don't know who he stole the $400 from in order to pay
> > > Frank.
> >
> > He might have used for part of the payment, the two Joyce Hatto disks
> > I bought, which I won't return, as they'll always remind me of Tom
> > Deacon.
>
> How sweet!
>
I knew you'd be thrilled!
-Owen
Frank Berger
"O" <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote in message
news:091020071151117367%ow...@denofinequityx.com...
I thought he had already admitted guilt in an interview.
Frank Berger
"Chel van Gennip" <chel...@vangennip.nl> wrote in message
news:5n1tt7F...@mid.individual.net...
> Frank Berger wrote:
>>
>> Well, he said they would be destroyed. I suppose if they are marketed
>> honestly, he can sell them if he wants to. :-)
>
>
Of course. Hadn't thought of that.
Frank Berger
"Wayne Reimer" <wrdslremovethis濃pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.21757edb4...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>> In article <091020071151117367%ow...@denofinequityx.com>,
>> ow...@denofinequityx.com says...
> were financial damages. Which was, I think, probably the reason Rugby
> commented that "the idiot" hadn't counsulted counsel (a slightly
> premature comment, I thought, especially since WBC probably reads rmcr
> and might be tipped off and stop the payment).
>
> wr
Giving a dissatisfied customer a refund is not an admission of guilt of any
sort, though, as I said, I thought he *had* admitted guilt in an interview.
O
<frank.d...@dal.frb.org> wrote:
You could admit guilt about picnicking on your neighbor's lawn, but
your neighbor would be hard put to show any damages therefrom, given
you cleaned up, but, in this case, you and he have established the
worth of the "damages."
-Owen
Frank Berger
No, no. Most retailers will take back merchandise for any reason
whatsoever. There is no presumption that the product is defective in any
way. Just that the buyer doesn't want it.
Rugby
> "Wayne Reimer" <wrdslremovethis¿@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > Giving a dissatisfied customer a refund is not an admission of guilt of any
> sort, though, as I said, I thought he *had* admitted guilt in an interview.
Giving a refund because a cd accidently said it was Beethoven , when
in fact Chopin, would hardly be the same as giving a refund IF the
pianist was knowingly Bronfman,not Hatto.
Regards, Rugby
Frank Berger
"Rugby" <steve...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192019172....@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> "Wayne Reimer" <wrdslremovethis濃pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > Giving a dissatisfied customer a refund is not an admission of guilt of
> > any
> sort, though, as I said, I thought he *had* admitted guilt in an
> interview.
>Giving a refund because a cd accidently said it was Beethoven , when
>in fact Chopin, would hardly be the same as giving a refund IF the
>pianist was knowingly Bronfman,not Hatto.
>
>Regards, Rugby
Good grief. I can buy a pair of pants and return them simply because I've
changed my mind. Has the manufacturer or retailer admitted guilt of
anything? No. *Are* they guilty of anything? No. So too can WBC can take
back his CDs and refund my money without it being an admission of guilt.
Norman M. Schwartz
"Frank Berger" <frank.d...@dal.frb.org> wrote in message
news:13gq5sl...@news.supernews.com...
Pants, OK (L.L. Bean makes you pay for the retuen shipping.). However I
don't believe anyone offers refunds on _opened_ CDs because you changed your
mind. (Long, long ago opened defective recordings were exchanged only for
the identical item.)
>
Frank Berger
"Norman M. Schwartz" <nm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ozbPi.207$et6...@newsfe12.lga...
Nevertheless, there is no way his refund of my money would be considered an
admission of anything in a court. Lawyers: correct me if I am wrong.
Norman M. Schwartz
I agree with that (and I'm not nor have I ever been a lawyer), nevertheless
one can't get their money refunded for opened CDs because you changed your
mind.
>
Rugby
> "Rugby" <steveha...@gm>
> Good grief.
Indeed.
Frank Berger
But I just did, didn't I?
O
<frank.d...@dal.frb.org> wrote:
But WB-C is not the retailer. Concert Artists is.
-Owen
Simon Roberts
>
>
>"Norman M. Schwartz" <nm...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:OzcPi.85$8C7...@newsfe12.lga...
>> I agree with that (and I'm not nor have I ever been a lawyer),
>> nevertheless one can't get their money refunded for opened CDs because you
>> changed your mind.
>>
>>>
>
>But I just did, didn't I?
That's not why you asked for your money back and not why it was refunded.
Simon
Rugby
> In article <13gqvo05
>
> That's not why you asked for your money back and not why it was refunded.
>
Amen.
Rugby
Frank Berger
So what?
Frank Berger
"Simon Roberts" <sd...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:fek41...@drn.newsguy.com...
Yes, Simon, I know that.
Frank Berger
The original question was whether WBC's allowing me to return the
merchandise for a refund was an admission of guilt. If we're talking
"implicitly," maybe. If legally, which is what I was talking about, then no
way.
Rowe Drun
> In article <1191865101.023765.303...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Rugby <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 12:33 pm, O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote:
>
> > > And also a modicum of respect for WBC (just a modicum, but it's a
> > > start).
>
> > Surely, you jest ?!
>
> Hey, so many thieves steal billions of dollars and never repay a penny.
> WBC just paid Frank ~$400 USD, which, in view of WBC's impending legal
> situation, is a somewhat considerable sum. That deserves a modicum of
> respect -- I don't think that WBC is truly beyond the pale and
> irretrievable, and I applaud and respect any effort towards
> restitution.
Huh? Frank Berger bought $400 worth of Joyce Hatto cds? What a
hamburger-head!
Rugby
> On 8 > Huh? Frank Berger bought $400 worth of Joyce Hatto cds? What a
> hamburger-head!
As if Rowe Drun would have known the difference !
Frank Berger
"Rowe Drun" <jpn...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1192105092.8...@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Guilty I wonder how many other hamburger-heads there are hereabouts and how
many will admit it?
Matthew B. Tepper
following letters to be typed in news:13gsfae...@news.supernews.com:
> Guilty I wonder how many other hamburger-heads there are hereabouts and
> how many will admit it?
I think you are replying to an insult-generator, which as such is unlikely
to post anything of value here. I've already killfiled it.
--
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Rugby
wrote:
> Guilty I wonder how many other hamburger-heads there are hereabouts and how
> many will admit it?
I have one, the Rachmaninoff Transcriptions/Op.33 Etudes cd, now
determined to be Ghindin, Hobson, and Andsnes.
I am keeping it because I believe Ghindin to have great potential.And
because I'm only out about $ 15.
Regards, Rugby
Keith Baird
> Well, he said they would be destroyed. I suppose if they are marketed
> honestly, he can sell them if he wants to. :-)
Chel van Gennip <chel...@vangennip.nl> wrote:
> It would not be fraud any more, but still would be copyright violation.
Not when sold as "used."
--/<eith