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wkasimer

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Jan 28, 2013, 8:12:03 AM1/28/13
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markm...@gmail.com

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Jan 28, 2013, 9:24:51 AM1/28/13
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Thanks for this tip. Good stuff here, much of it added to my library on inexpensive Vanguard LPs when I was a teenager. The Griller String Quintets, though a bit old-fashioned by today's standards, are very compelling, especially the deeply moving G minor. One correction: the Felix Prohaska symphonies and overtures are labeled here as with the "Vienna Symphony," but my Vanguard LPs and Vanguard Classics CD list the orchestra as the Vienna State Opera Orchestra. As I understand the world of Vienna orchestras in the 1960s, those were two different ensembles.

Mark

Paul Goldstein

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Jan 28, 2013, 10:36:03 AM1/28/13
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In article <301b6f2d-0064-4b25...@y3g2000pbq.googlegroups.com>,
wkasimer says...
Pretty much everything in this collection is good, including the less-known
performances of the Horn Concerti. The Griller and Yale contributions, of
course,
are top recommendations at any price.

Paul Goldstein

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In article <301b6f2d-0064-4b25...@y3g2000pbq.googlegroups.com>,
wkasimer says...
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Mark S

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Jan 28, 2013, 11:07:29 AM1/28/13
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Thanks, but I think I'll wait for the price to drop.


:) Just joking. I bought it.

Bob Lombard

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Jan 28, 2013, 12:45:56 PM1/28/13
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Me too. I'll do considerable picking and discarding, but there will be
plenty left.

Andrej Kluge

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Jan 28, 2013, 3:47:43 PM1/28/13
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Hi,

wkasimer wrote:
> The Big Mozart Box:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B5Q7M90

Only available in the U.S., alas.

Ciao
AK

Mark S

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Jan 28, 2013, 5:36:58 PM1/28/13
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On Jan 28, 5:12 am, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
By the way there's no vocal music in that set.

Alan Cooper

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Jan 28, 2013, 7:31:46 PM1/28/13
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Mark S <markst...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:3b85363e-e1e7-451d-a48d-
fcd5d9...@k6g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:
Mozart wrote vocal music? (JUST KIDDING!) Other attribution errors: Peter
Serkin didn't record the Mozart Piano Quartets with the Yale SQ, but with
Schneider, Tree, and Soyer; same stricture with respect to the Oboe
Quartet: Gomberg performs with Galimir, Rhodes, and Arico. All excellent
performances. Lots of great stuff here, in fact. Never thought much of
Denis Matthews' Mozart. How do others feel?

AC

Mort

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Jan 28, 2013, 8:46:13 PM1/28/13
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I assume that you realize that it is apparently $0.99 for each song,
some lasting only 2 or 3 minutes.It is not $0.99 for the entire box. Add
it up, and it is not such a bargain.

Mort Linder

John Wiser

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Jan 28, 2013, 8:48:22 PM1/28/13
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"Alan Cooper" <amcoo...@SPAMoptonline.net> wrote
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> Never thought much of Denis Matthews' Mozart.
> How do others feel?
>
Gosh, that brings back memories from my teens. Our village library had a large record
collection, not at all typical for a small upstate town. Therein lies a story and maybe
I'll tell it here sometime.
My first serious girlfriend was having a go at K. 310, and we resorted to the library to
hear how Schnabel and others dealt with it. We found his six HMV sides a finely
sustained account which answered most of her questions. We would have left it at that,
except that four sides of Denis Matthews were also on hand, and newly arrived, two
Columbia 78s of Dinu Lipatti's performance. Well, these were new and shiny, we had
to hear 'em, this pianist completely unknown to us. I won't say that the warmth and loft
of Lipatti's playing eclipsed Schnabel, but it was a close-run contest. Matthews was
sampled last and was found by comparison to be so sedate that we never got beyond
the first movement. So there's one primordial reaction for you, formed not later than 1952.

jdw

dr.narcolepsy

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Jan 28, 2013, 8:59:38 PM1/28/13
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No, 99 cents for the whole thing. I had some kind of 99 cent promotional
credit, or something, that I had forgotten about, and my bill was 0. Thanks
to the original poster for the tip!

wkasimer

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Jan 28, 2013, 10:12:20 PM1/28/13
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On Jan 28, 8:46 pm, Mort <m...@cloud9.net> wrote:

> I assume that you realize that it is apparently $0.99 for each song,
> some lasting only 2 or 3 minutes.It is not $0.99 for the entire box. Add
> it up, and it is not such a bargain.

Hi, Mort -

No, it's 99 cents for the whole shootin' match. But if you want to
pay 99 cents for each track, be my guest :-).

Bill

Alan Cooper

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Jan 28, 2013, 10:15:09 PM1/28/13
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"John Wiser" <cee...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Thanks for the amusing story, John. How did the gal's K. 310 turn out?
My first encounter with Matthews' Mozart was via the two minor-key
concerti. "Sedate" is the polite word for "boring," right? I suppose it
takes a certain talent to make K. 491 seem dull :-)

I had my own mediocre go at K.310, incidentally, inspired by Ashkenazy's
dramatic account. His record, c/w an equally fine K. 576, remains one of
my favorite recordings of Mozart piano sonatas. Not as far back as 1952,
however.

AC

Mort

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Jan 28, 2013, 10:37:17 PM1/28/13
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Hi,

When I brought up that page from Amazon.com, each track was listed as
$0.99. If I am wrong, then mea colpa.

Mort Linder

Bob Lombard

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Jan 28, 2013, 10:48:13 PM1/28/13
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Go look again, Mort. Each track is 99�, and so is the 'album'. It really
is your choice to make.

wkasimer

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Jan 28, 2013, 10:58:29 PM1/28/13
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On Jan 28, 10:15 pm, Alan Cooper <amcoope...@SPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> My first encounter with Matthews' Mozart was via the two minor-key
> concerti.

Same here; I practically wore out that Vanguard LP. When I listened
to it today after downloading, I didn't even make it through the first
movement of K466.

Bill

Robert Pecchioni

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Jan 28, 2013, 11:40:01 PM1/28/13
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wkasimer <wkas...@comcast.net> wrote in
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m:
Many thanks for the tip. I've been listening to various items all
evening. Loving Yale and Josef Suk in particular. Any track is
worth more than the 99 for the whole thing.

Bob Harper

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Jan 29, 2013, 1:45:03 AM1/29/13
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Nope. It's $0.99 for the whole thing. I downloaded it this afternoon.

Bob Harper

Art

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Jan 29, 2013, 1:55:34 AM1/29/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:48:22 -0500, "John Wiser" <cee...@gmail.com>
wrote:
You guys sure lived fast and loose back then!

Art

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Jan 29, 2013, 1:59:23 AM1/29/13
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This could be the best 99 cent "big box" set yet!

John Wiser

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Jan 29, 2013, 4:55:49 AM1/29/13
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"Art" <maleune...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You guys sure lived fast and loose back then!
>

Contrary to certain contemporary accounts,
in 1952 sex had not only been invented
but thoroughly explored.by intrepid pioneers.
An army of beta testers were refining it for public release,
which was not to occur for another twelve years. .

jdw

Alan Cooper

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Jan 29, 2013, 7:36:19 AM1/29/13
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"John Wiser" <cee...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Eleven:

Sexual intercourse began
In nineteen sixty-three
(which was rather late for me) -
Between the end of the "Chatterley" ban
And the Beatles' first LP.

Up to then there'd only been
A sort of bargaining,
A wrangle for the ring,
A shame that started at sixteen
And spread to everything....

AC

wade

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Jan 29, 2013, 7:53:55 AM1/29/13
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So were the Beethoven Collection, the Mahler Collection, the Leonhardt Collection and the Christmas Collection when first released by Amazon. Now their prices are different, so if you want any part of this set, now is the time to grab it up.

John Wiser

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Jan 29, 2013, 8:04:08 AM1/29/13
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"Alan Cooper" <amcoo...@SPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
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Eleven, twelve, enh, close enough.
Larkin was a great poet but a rather nasty man
who probably deserved all the bad sex
he evidently got.

jdw

Kip Williams

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Jan 29, 2013, 8:10:37 AM1/29/13
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Bob Lombard wrote, On 1/28/13 10:48 PM:
> On 1/28/2013 10:37 PM, Mort wrote:
>> wkasimer wrote:
>>> On Jan 28, 8:46 pm, Mort <m...@cloud9.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I assume that you realize that it is apparently $0.99 for each song,
>>>> some lasting only 2 or 3 minutes.It is not $0.99 for the entire box.
>>>> Add
>>>> it up, and it is not such a bargain.
>>>
>>> No, it's 99 cents for the whole shootin' match. But if you want to
>>> pay 99 cents for each track, be my guest :-).
>>
>> When I brought up that page from Amazon.com, each track was listed as
>> $0.99. If I am wrong, then mea colpa.
>
> Go look again, Mort. Each track is 99�, and so is the 'album'. It really
> is your choice to make.

Yes. 99 cents each, or 99 cents for all. There are a few tracks down at
the bottom of my listing that you can only purchase if you get the whole
album, so it's 99 cents for all, or nothing.


Kip W

Christopher Webber

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Jan 29, 2013, 8:30:38 AM1/29/13
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On 29/01/2013 13:04, John Wiser wrote:

> Larkin was a great poet but a rather nasty man
> who probably deserved all the bad sex
> he evidently got.

So nasty people deserve to suffer in this life as well as the next (even
if it exists)? My experience is that it's the nastiness in people which
makes sure that they *don't* suffer in this life.

And in any case, I fancy that the idea of Larkin as a particularly nasty
man is tabloid hype. As a creative artist he put himself first, as he
had to. That's about all. I don't think he was any "nastier" than the
rest of us, actually, and rather less hypocritical about it than some.

As Martin Amis put it, Larkin's infamous letters show little more than
his ability to tailor what he wrote, and the way he wrote it, to their
recipients. The revisionism which set in after his death in the 1990's,
is now being revised itself.

(And he was a damned good librarian too.)

O

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Jan 29, 2013, 9:10:41 AM1/29/13
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In article <fa609c49-5f5d-4101...@googlegroups.com>,
wade <wade...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>
> So were the Beethoven Collection, the Mahler Collection, the Leonhardt
> Collection and the Christmas Collection when first released by Amazon. Now
> their prices are different, so if you want any part of this set, now is the time to grab it up.

Yes, I've seen these sets, after being offered at 99 cents, go up to
the unbelievable stratospherically high price of $2.69, or even $9.99.
Don't be shut out.

-Owen, be careful if you're allergic to countertenors, though.

John Wiser

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Jan 29, 2013, 11:50:50 AM1/29/13
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"Christopher Webber" takes up another lost cause:

> On 29/01/2013 13:04, John Wiser wrote:
>
>> Larkin was a great poet but a rather nasty man
>> who probably deserved all the bad sex
>> he evidently got.
>
> So nasty people deserve to suffer in this life as well as the next (even
> if it exists)? My experience is that it's the nastiness in people which
> makes sure that they *don't* suffer in this life.

I dunno. Larkin appears to have suffered plenty
as one of history's most penetrating negative thinkers.
>
> And in any case, I fancy that the idea of Larkin as a particularly nasty
> man is tabloid hype. As a creative artist he put himself first, as he
> had to. That's about all. I don't think he was any "nastier" than the
> rest of us, actually, and rather less hypocritical about it than some.
>
I cannot gainsay this. Some of us may merely aspire.

> As Martin Amis put it, Larkin's infamous letters show little more than
> his ability to tailor what he wrote, and the way he wrote it, to their
> recipients. The revisionism which set in after his death in the 1990's,
> is now being revised itself.

Plausible. His letters to Kingsley A. certainly cater to that recipient's
penchant for schadenfreude.

jdw


Christopher Webber

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Jan 29, 2013, 12:05:20 PM1/29/13
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On 29/01/2013 16:50, John Wiser wrote:
> Plausible. His letters to Kingsley A. certainly cater to that
> recipient's penchant for schadenfreude.

They do. And some of his letters were small and small-minded. But to
condemn Larkin (as some of the 1990's literati did) because it emerges
from some letters that he liked the odd dose of very soft porn, and had
three women on the go, seems to me the height of nastiness itself.

But then, I never knew a writer or a composer whose private letters made
me think *better* of them!

I wished, for example, that I'd never put my nose into the published
Britten or Tippett letters. I learnt nothing important. And I discovered
that my Heroes were privately as petty, self-serving and over-sensitive
to sleights as ... well, as I am myself!

John Wiser

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Jan 29, 2013, 12:10:41 PM1/29/13
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"Alan Cooper" wrote

> "John Wiser" <cee...@gmail.com> wrote [snips ancient anecdote]
>
> Thanks for the amusing story, John. How did the gal's K. 310 turn out?

In the long run, not very stylish. Mozart was not her thing. She came to
life with Chabrier, Poulenc, Gottschalk and other antic entertainers, and
was my mother's all-time favorite student when it came to dealing with
ragtime. She could dazzle, but did it just for fun, was disdainful of the idea
of being a career musician. This set up one of the conflicts upon which we
parted after two delightful years. .

BTW I suppose sedate is the source of sedative. Boring, si.

JDW .

Al Eisner

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Jan 31, 2013, 6:46:36 PM1/31/13
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A naive question (I haven't previously downloaded MP3 music from Amazon).
What I see on this page is not a direct download option, but only the
option to save it to Cloud Player (with the possibility of later download).
The lengthy "terms of use" say this requires a Cloud account. Is there
a charge for such an account? When you say "download" I assume you mean
an actual download to a device. Thanks.
--

Al Eisner

Bob Harper

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Jan 31, 2013, 7:03:18 PM1/31/13
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I have the Amazon MP3 Downloader application on my Mac, and the files
download directly to my computer. From there I can put them in iTunes or
on a flash drive, or wherever. Don't know much about the Cloud.

Bob Harper

Kip Williams

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Jan 31, 2013, 7:17:12 PM1/31/13
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Bob Harper wrote, On 1/31/13 7:03 PM:
The first thing it does is announce that your selection is saved to the
Cloud. Then it asks if you want to download it to your computer (unless
you've already chosen or unchosen the option to do so automatically).

I've never really looked into my corner of the Cloud. I've bought things
that are presumably there, but I don't have any devices that feed off of
it, so, like you, I'm mostly not concerned with it.

Which probably means that in five years, I'll be cloud this and cloud
that, and everybody else will have moved on to something else. The core,
or the ground, or the bus. Whatever.


Kip W

Al Eisner

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Jan 31, 2013, 7:25:14 PM1/31/13
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Thanks (and to Kip). I just went ahead and tried it, finding that no
new account was involved, just my usual Amazon account. And anything in
my Cloud Player is available for download. Moreover, as Mark had noted,
once I had saved something there, a number of old CD purchases showed
up there in MP3 form as well (although only a small subset of what
I've bought from Amazon, presumably because the others don't have
MP3 versions). I suspect most here know all of this, but it was new
to me -- and very neat the way it works automatically.
--

Al Eisner

wkasimer

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Jan 31, 2013, 11:42:23 PM1/31/13
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On Jan 31, 6:46 pm, Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:

> A naive question (I haven't previously downloaded MP3 music from Amazon).
> What I see on this page is not a direct download option, but only the
> option to save it to Cloud Player (with the possibility of later download).
> The lengthy "terms of use" say this requires a Cloud account.  Is there
> a charge for such an account?

I believe that it's free, and you can store unlimited Amazon
purchases, plus 250 "songs" of your own that you upload. For $25 a
year, you can upload 250,000 "songs", which may be as large as 250MB.
Amazon download purchases do not count toward that limit.

Bill

Rich

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Feb 1, 2013, 11:50:38 AM2/1/13
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Amazon Cloud is also available via Roku.

RS

danielf...@gmail.com

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On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:12:03 AM UTC-5, wkasimer wrote:
> The Big Mozart Box:
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B5Q7M90
>
>
>
> Bill

Thanks very much for drawing my attention to this, Bill. I had a .99 coupon as well, so it was free.
An excellent investment! ;-)
I've been enjoying the piano quartets and oboe quartet -- hadn't listened to these performance in a long time. Lots of other wonderful stuff here.

/Daniel

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