Stravinsky Columbia Silver Box Set
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
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> I assume many of you have this set of the nine masterpieces conducted by
> Igor himself. ( D5S 775 ).
As a matter of fact, I do. It's in a box in my storage compartment.
> My set is in very good to excellent condition. The box has one small
> fray on a corner.
> I found the sound in this set to be notches above the other Columbia
> releases of the same stuff on LP.
> Where is the best site to determine the value of OOP Classical LP's?
> Thanks.
Right here:
http://www.recordcollectorsguild.org/classics_value.html
To save you some time, I'll quote the beginning: "I am sorry to do this,
but I have to start off with bad news. If you have a large collection of
classical LP records, it is probably worth less money than it was five
years ago -- perhaps a great deal less. And its value will probably
continue to decline."
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Stephen W. Worth
<A...@evole.org> wrote:
> I assume many of you have this set of the nine masterpieces conducted by Igor
> himself.
I bought my copy of that set for around $10.
See ya
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Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
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> In article <01HW.BACDB4BD0...@news.east.cox.net>, Agevole
><A...@evole.org> wrote:
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>> I assume many of you have this set of the nine masterpieces conducted
>> by Igor himself.
>
> I bought my copy of that set for around $10.
Dang, I paid $15.44! But that was back in the early 1980s, I think.
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:19:08 -0400, Matthew B. Tepper (posts from
> uswest.net are forged) wrote
> (in message <Xns9367876ABA4...@129.250.170.99>):
>
>> Agevole <A...@evole.org> appears to have caused the following letters to
>> be typed in news:01HW.BACDB4BD0...@news.east.cox.net:
>>
>>> I assume many of you have this set of the nine masterpieces conducted
>>> by Igor himself. ( D5S 775 ).
>>
>> As a matter of fact, I do. It's in a box in my storage compartment.
>>
>>> My set is in very good to excellent condition. The box has one small
>>> fray on a corner.
>>> I found the sound in this set to be notches above the other Columbia
>>> releases of the same stuff on LP.
>>> Where is the best site to determine the value of OOP Classical LP's?
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Right here:
>>
>> http://www.recordcollectorsguild.org/classics_value.html
>>
>> To save you some time, I'll quote the beginning: "I am sorry to do
>> this, but I have to start off with bad news. If you have a large
>> collection of classical LP records, it is probably worth less money
>> than it was five years ago -- perhaps a great deal less. And its
>> value will probably continue to decline."
>>
>>
>
> Thanks Matthew.
> That's why I gave away nearly 2000 classical LP's away to the music
> teacher of a regional high school.
> I sorta regret it now that I know some of them might never make it to
> CD. I kept some favorites that were not on CD, or not yet, afaik - eg:
> Leinsdorf with BSO RCA Prokofiev Symphonies, etc.
The 5th made it to CD on the BMG Navigator series, which was not issued in
the US. The "big" record companies just haven't got their act together.
Martha & Russ Oppenheim
"Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)" wrote:
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> > In article <01HW.BACDB4BD0...@news.east.cox.net>, Agevole
> ><A...@evole.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I assume many of you have this set of the nine masterpieces conducted
> >> by Igor himself.
> >
> > I bought my copy of that set for around $10.
>
> Dang, I paid $15.44! But that was back in the early 1980s, I think.
>
That was real money back then. <g>
Stephen W. Worth
> > I bought my copy of that set for around $10.
>
> Dang, I paid $15.44! But that was back in the early 1980s, I think.
The records are fine, but the box is a little scuffed up. That's
probably why I got it for that. I bought mine in the mid-90s.
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:33:55 -0400, Matthew B. Tepper (posts from
> uswest.net are forged) wrote
> (in message <Xns93679E41C5E...@129.250.170.81>):
>
>>snip
>>> Thanks Matthew.
>>> That's why I gave away nearly 2000 classical LP's away to the music
>>> teacher of a regional high school.
>>> I sorta regret it now that I know some of them might never make it to
>>> CD. I kept some favorites that were not on CD, or not yet, afaik - eg:
>>> Leinsdorf with BSO RCA Prokofiev Symphonies, etc.
>>
>> The 5th made it to CD on the BMG Navigator series, which was not issued
>> in the US. The "big" record companies just haven't got their act
>> together.
>>
>>
>
> Unfortunate.
> There are many 5th's out there, some not to be without.
> ( Did Szell's ever make it to CD?)
Yes, one of the final gasps of Sony's Masterworks Heritage series which (if
they didn't have useless and lazy idiots running the division) ought to
have been kept going to this very day. Coupling is Bartok's Concerto for
Orchestra, with a final movement foreshortened by Szell for some reason.
> The only 6th I can think of not to be without is Leinsdorf's BSO account.
> I made sure I had two LP's when they first came out, knowing I might wear
> one out over the course of time.<g>
Yes, that one was one of my "old friends" from my days of getting to learn
the Prokofiev oeuvre. Its continued absence from the current catalogues is
both a puzzle and an outrage.
Jon Bell
Agevole <A...@evole.org> wrote:
>
>There are many [Prokofiev] 5th's out there, some not to be without.
>( Did Szell's ever make it to CD?)
Yes, in a nice production in the short-lived Sony Masterworks Heritage
series, MHK 63124 (coupled with the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra).
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Tony Movshon
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:44:07 -0400, Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net
>> ... Coupling is Bartok's Concerto for
>
Perhaps. But what I heard is that he disliked the "night music" episode,
so he cut it.
Tony Movshon
mov...@nyu.edu
David7Gable
Stravinsky sometimes signed his initials one on top of the other so that they
formed a dollar sign. His single greatest remark on the subject of money was
made when a Monet painting was sold for more money than had ever before been
paid for a picture before (in the vicinity of a million bucks and nothing
compared to what it would go for today). Asked about the sale he said, "It
shows a flagrant lack of respect for the true value of money." (And I don't
think the remark was a reflection of his opinion of Monet, either.)
-david gable
David7Gable
Delete one of the before's from my post. Thanks.
-david gable
Eric Nagamine
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> > There are many 5th's out there, some not to be without.
> > ( Did Szell's ever make it to CD?)
>
> Yes, one of the final gasps of Sony's Masterworks Heritage series which (if
> they didn't have useless and lazy idiots running the division) ought to
> have been kept going to this very day. Coupling is Bartok's Concerto for
> Orchestra, with a final movement foreshortened by Szell for some reason.
>
Bartok's original ending that's on the Koussey & Ozawa/BSO recordings?
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>
> I assume many of you have this set of the nine masterpieces conducted by Igor
> My set is in very good to excellent condition. The box has one small fray on
> a corner.
> I found the sound in this set to be notches above the other Columbia releases
> of the same stuff on LP.
> Where is the best site to determine the value of OOP Classical LP's?
> Thanks.
>
As others have mentioned, quite common and of little $ value. I think
the rarity among his Columbia stuff, is the ballets packaged in the
Plexiglass case as it's hard to find with the case intact.
If you want an idea of mail order prices, try the Ars Antiqua site. Of
course there is ebay, which one can often get discs at prices lower than
mail order.
Tony Movshon
> I don't have access to my LP of the Bartok, but didn't Szell use
> Bartok's original ending that's on the Koussey & Ozawa/BSO recordings?
No. Conventional ending, big cut (the night music).
Tony Movshon
mov...@nyu.edu
Richard S. Sandmeyer
Wasn't there a posting a few months back that said one of the LP to CD-R
labels was going to be reissuing a lot of the Leinsdorf Prokofiev series?
Seems to me Lani Spahr posted something to that effect on behalf of
another label (not his own LITV project).
Of course, I'd rather see RCA/BMG reissue the series on CD from its master
tapes, but a transfer from a clean LP (or an open reel tape) can sound
pretty good if done carefully.
Rich Sandmeyer
richsand at iximd dot com
Matthew B. Tepper (posts from uswest.net are forged)
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> Wasn't there a posting a few months back that said one of the LP to CD-R
> labels was going to be reissuing a lot of the Leinsdorf Prokofiev
> series? Seems to me Lani Spahr posted something to that effect on behalf
> of another label (not his own LITV project).
>
> Of course, I'd rather see RCA/BMG reissue the series on CD from its
> master tapes, but a transfer from a clean LP (or an open reel tape) can
> sound pretty good if done carefully.
Russ Oppenheim did a very good job of it. In the absence of life from BMG,
that may have to do.
Ward Hardman
:>> "Screw technology" - I.S.
Are you sure that with Stravinsky's heavy accent he didn't say "the true
value of Monet"? ;-)
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