> I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
> markings.
Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
metronome marks on it. :) )
> I am still working through the download and am relishing
> every moment.
That's excellent. (Please don't take the above as an opinion on
Goodyear. I haven't heard this at all -- actually, I'm trying to
avoid new Beethoven cycles, since I choked on the last one sampled
(Lim's). :) Otoh, the Buchbinder II Mark and others talked about
earlier seems pretty worthwhile, so far.)
>> Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
>> on Amazon.
> Yes, Hank Drake is worth listening to, always.
> "Generic" Ashkenazy ?! Ouch.
I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>> Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
>> on Amazon.
>On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
> No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
> Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
Your 2 wrongs certainly don't make a right.Deacon is inexcusable , but
in your case I suspect you're spending too much time near The City,
JW . Ya'll need to come on out herah for a spell.
Dufus ( Who has also been to Bully Hill , and Iowa, and knows bull
when he sees,hears,or tastes it . )
On Oct 6, 3:50 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Ricky Jimenez <ricky...@bestweb.net> wrote:
> > Finally there is a review, by a seemingly very knowledgeable source,
> > on Amazon.
> Yes, Hank Drake is worth listening to, always.
> "Generic" Ashkenazy ?! Ouch.
Why?
I've found most Amazon reviewers to be a legend in their own mousepad.
The only one I think both interesting and informative is Santa Fe
Listener, who is opinionated but will defend his likes (Szell,
Harnoncourt, Bernstein, Minkowski, Levine.....) and his dislikes
(Leinsdorf, Ormandy, Wand, Zinman......).
Oh, and I should add that one of my favorite recordings of the Mozart
piano concerto 17 I purchased after reading an excerpt from a John
Wiser review originally published in Fanfare and added as an editorial
comment on Amazon.
On Oct 6, 7:52 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
> > No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
> > Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
> You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
Not as strange as your conclusion.
I simply asked "why" Hank Drake was worth "listening" to, always?
> > I didn't realize that Goodyear scrupulously observed the metronome
> > markings.
> Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> metronome marks on it. :) )
> Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> metronome marks on it. :) )
Following Czerny's doesn't have the same authority!
>On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
>> No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
>> Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
> You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
> Your 2 wrongs certainly don't make a right.Deacon is inexcusable , but
> in your case I suspect you're spending too much time near The City,
> JW . Ya'll need to come on out herah for a spell.
You'll never get me west of Ithaca.
I live seventy miles north and west of NYC,
and haven't been there since 2001. I don't
single out Drake, I deplore all reviewers.
John Wiser
Jicotea Used Books
PO Box 136
Howells NY 10932-0136 USA
http://www.amazon.com/shops/ceeclef ceec...@gmail.com
41° 29' 36.06" N 74° 29' 24.84" W
JDW
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:52:09 -0700 (PDT), Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>On Oct 6, 4:49 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I would modify the assertion made above as follows:
>> No, Hank Drake is not worth reading, ever.
>> Your enthusiasm needs curbing, Doof.
> You and Deacon both dislike Hank Drake ?! ; what a strange pairing !!
>Your 2 wrongs certainly don't make a right.Deacon is inexcusable , but
>in your case I suspect you're spending too much time near The City,
>JW . Ya'll need to come on out herah for a spell.
>Dufus ( Who has also been to Bully Hill , and Iowa, and knows bull
>when he sees,hears,or tastes it . )
Deacon hates Hank Drake because Drake called him out on a number of
issues over the years. Reading over Drakes reviews you can easily see
that, regardless of whether you agree with him or not, he has an
encyclopedic of recordered repertory and is a good guide on the
reference value of certain recordings (e.g the big Horowitz box).
Wagner fan
> > Someone should probably add a small caveat about the Amazon reviewer
> > getting slightly carried away with the idea of observing metronome
> > marks in the sonatas, as a whole. (Considering, at the very least,
> > that there's exactly one Beethoven piano sonata with Beethoven's
> > metronome marks on it. :) )
> Following Czerny's doesn't have the same authority!
(laugh)
(I'm a vigorous follower of the exact metronome marks by von
Blimpendimpf, Beethoven's downstairs naighbor. What they lack in
accuracy, they more than make up for in expediency. And it's good
for virtuosos everywhere that he's at least three times faster than
Czerny!)