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wagnerfan
May 24, 2012, 9:42:39 AM5/24/12
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Based on some excerpts I heard i was thinking of getting this
recording but I have read some reservations about the sound. It was
the RCA release I auditioned. But some posters said there were other
transfers with better sound (Japan). Can anyone confirm or does it
really make that much of a difference - the excerpts I heard were very
tubby sounding but acceptable.
Wagner fan
recording but I have read some reservations about the sound. It was
the RCA release I auditioned. But some posters said there were other
transfers with better sound (Japan). Can anyone confirm or does it
really make that much of a difference - the excerpts I heard were very
tubby sounding but acceptable.
Wagner fan
basnperson
May 24, 2012, 11:21:02 AM5/24/12
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more than one recording?
AB
basnperson
May 24, 2012, 11:44:49 AM5/24/12
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clear enuf, it is the piano which a times sounds pretty bad.........
BTW- Richter's playing is far from impressive. When did he record
this...... at times uneven articularion.
AB
wagnerfan
May 24, 2012, 12:04:07 PM5/24/12
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concert material. Wagner fan
John Thomas
May 24, 2012, 12:09:13 PM5/24/12
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II, is this one:
Innsbrück, 26 - 28 July; 7, 10 August 1973) on Poloarts [China]
CL4B-86080 (CD) It's not easy to find these days but shows up
occasionally on eBay. I personally don't care for either the sound or
the performance on the RCA and both are better on the Poloarts. For
just Book I the Moscow performance 20 and 21 April, 1969, recently re-
released and discussed here a month or two ago, is the one to get.
John Thomas
May 24, 2012, 12:17:31 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 9:04 am, wagnerfan <ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 08:21:02 -0700 (PDT), basnperson
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 08:21:02 -0700 (PDT), basnperson
> >listening on youtube............. sounds quite fine to me. Are they
> >more than one recording?
>
> >AB
>
> I think so - there is the RCA made in a church but also some live
> concert material. Wagner fan
Here's the a bit out of date discography:
> >more than one recording?
>
> >AB
>
> I think so - there is the RCA made in a church but also some live
> concert material. Wagner fan
Well-Tempered Clavier, books I & II
(Salzburg and Vienna, 1970 - 1973)
Le Chant du Monde LDX 78 525/30 (LP)
Melodiya/Eurodisc 610 276 (LP) [ Ariola 610 276-234 ]
Melodiya/Eurodisc [Germany] 610 276-234 (CD)
Melodiya / JVC VICC 40014-17 (CD) or VICC 40206-9
Victor [ Japan ] VICC 40210 - 40213 (CD)
RCA GD 60949 (CD)
RCA [Japan] BVCC 37139/42 (CD)
Olympia [Russia] 501077 A+B (CD) & 501078 A+B (CD)
(Innsbrück, 26 - 28 July; 7, 10 August 1973) on Poloarts [China]
CL4B-86080 (CD)
Well-Tempered Clavier, book I
(Moscow, 20 and 21 April 1969) on Revelation RV 20003 (CD)
(Salzburg, 21 -31 July 1970)
Eurodisc-Melodiya 80651 XGK (LP) or XG 80.651 (LP) [ "Kassette mit 2
1/2 LP" ]
Le Chant du Monde LDX 78525/7 (LP) or LDC 278 525/6 (CD)
EMI 95549/51 (LP)
Eterna 826602/4 (LP) or 826781/3 (LP)
Quintessence 3705 (LP)
Ricordi AOCL 516001
Melodiya SM 02987/92 (3 LPs)
Melodiya/Angel S-4119 (LP)
Musical Heritage MHS 834 554 (LP)
JVC VIC 4072-76 (LP) or VIC 3059-61 (LP) or 3025/26/27 (LP) or VIC
3121/2/3 (LP)
Shinsekai SMK 7670/2 (LP 1972) or SMK 7740/1/2 (LP 1972)
Melodiya/JVC VDC 5001/4 (CD)
Victor [ Japan ] VICC-40014/7 (CD)
Olympia OCD 536 (CD)
Polydor [China] 506-0540 (CD)
RCA [USA] 82876-623152 (CD)
(Innsbruck, 7, 10 August 1973) on Victor [ Japan ] VICC 60071/2 (CD)
Well-Tempered Clavier, book II
(Salzburg and Vienna, 1972 - 1973)
Ariola/Eurodisc 85629 (LP)
Eterna 827979 (3 LPs)
Olympia OCD 537 (CD)
Le Chant du Monde LDX 78528/30 (LP) or LDC 278 528/9 (CD)
Melodiya SM 04213/8 (3 LPs)
Melodiya/Angel S-4120 (LP)
Musical Heritage Society MHS 834 554 (LP)
Quintessence 3706 (LP)
JVC VIC 4072-76 (LP) or VIC 3062-64 (LP) or 3028/29/30 (LP) or VIC
3124/5/6 (LP)
Shinsekai SMK 7810/2 (LP 1972)
Melodiya/JVC VDC 5001/4 (CD)
Victor [ Japan ] VICC-40014/7 (CD)
Polydor [China] 506-0540 (CD)
(Innsbruck, 26 - 28 July 1973) on Victor [ Japan ] VICC 60073/4 (CD)
Well-Tempered Clavier, Preludes & Fugues, Book I, nos. 1 - 4, 6, 10,
11, 19, 22; Book II, nos. 2, 4, 6, 12, 15, 18, 24
(Salzburg and Vienna, 1970 - 1973)
RCA [ France ] 53651 (CD)
Well-Tempered Clavier, Preludes & Fugues, BWV 846, 849 - 851, 853
(Florence, 23 Oct 1962)
DG 18950 (LP) or 138950 (LP 1965) or 2548286 (LP) or 447355 (CD) or
457667 (CD)
DG [ Japan ] SLGM 1312 (LP 1965) or MG 2193 (LP 1970) or MGW 5150 (LP
1979)
Heliodor 2548286 (LP)
DG [Japan] POCG 3902/3 (CD)
Steve Emerson
May 24, 2012, 12:29:40 PM5/24/12
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In article <gfesr7p52k3d0t1ck...@4ax.com>,
You want the one released by Sony in 2009 and transferred by Yukio
Takahashi. See my post 72 and others in this thread:
http://tinyurl.com/87fnjsz
As noted on other occasions, the LPs and the earlier CD transfer sounded
radically different, the LPs having a fairly mellow sound that portrays
Richter's work very differently. I can't imagine that those early CDs
have the sound he wanted.
The 2009 transfer is much more like the LPs (meaning the European and
Russian Melodiya LPs; there were some MHS issues that sounded bad).
The 2009 issue, btw, is from Europe, not Japan, and it's easy to find.
You'll see some Amazon links in the above thread. The Takahashi
transfers may or may not have been used in Japan-only issues. There are
recent Melodiya issues too; I have no idea what transfers.
There is also another complete WTC recorded in Innsbruck, which has been
reissued on PoloArts; earlier it was out on JVC. Some people prefer it.
I don't, although I like it. The PoloArts is sometimes on eBay (not now)
-- the release is from some place like Korea.
SE.
Takahashi. See my post 72 and others in this thread:
http://tinyurl.com/87fnjsz
As noted on other occasions, the LPs and the earlier CD transfer sounded
radically different, the LPs having a fairly mellow sound that portrays
Richter's work very differently. I can't imagine that those early CDs
have the sound he wanted.
The 2009 transfer is much more like the LPs (meaning the European and
Russian Melodiya LPs; there were some MHS issues that sounded bad).
The 2009 issue, btw, is from Europe, not Japan, and it's easy to find.
You'll see some Amazon links in the above thread. The Takahashi
transfers may or may not have been used in Japan-only issues. There are
recent Melodiya issues too; I have no idea what transfers.
There is also another complete WTC recorded in Innsbruck, which has been
reissued on PoloArts; earlier it was out on JVC. Some people prefer it.
I don't, although I like it. The PoloArts is sometimes on eBay (not now)
-- the release is from some place like Korea.
SE.
wagnerfan
May 24, 2012, 12:37:54 PM5/24/12
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wagnerfan
May 24, 2012, 12:43:03 PM5/24/12
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set you recommended. Wagner fan
Steve Emerson
May 24, 2012, 12:43:04 PM5/24/12
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In article
<c322bf12-437e-4b53...@n5g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
you're not in a position to judge the sound of the erstwhile RCA.
> For
> just Book I the Moscow performance 20 and 21 April, 1969, recently re-
> released and discussed here a month or two ago, is the one to get.
This I haven't heard although I know something about the recording. Any
idea what the recent thread was?
SE.
<c322bf12-437e-4b53...@n5g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
John Thomas <abras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 24, 6:42 am, wagnerfan <ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Based on some excerpts I heard i was thinking of getting this
> > recording but I have read some reservations about the sound. It was
> > the RCA release I auditioned. But some posters said there were other
> > transfers with better sound (Japan). Can anyone confirm or does it
> > really make that much of a difference - the excerpts I heard were very
> > tubby sounding but acceptable.
> >
> > Wagner fan
>
> A better performance than the RCA, and one including both Books I and
> II, is this one:
> Innsbrück, 26 - 28 July; 7, 10 August 1973) on Poloarts [China]
> CL4B-86080 (CD) It's not easy to find these days but shows up
> occasionally on eBay. I personally don't care for either the sound or
> the performance on the RCA and both are better on the Poloarts.
Have to ask: have you heard the LPs? Or the Takahashi transfer? If not,
> On May 24, 6:42 am, wagnerfan <ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Based on some excerpts I heard i was thinking of getting this
> > recording but I have read some reservations about the sound. It was
> > the RCA release I auditioned. But some posters said there were other
> > transfers with better sound (Japan). Can anyone confirm or does it
> > really make that much of a difference - the excerpts I heard were very
> > tubby sounding but acceptable.
> >
> > Wagner fan
>
> A better performance than the RCA, and one including both Books I and
> II, is this one:
> Innsbrück, 26 - 28 July; 7, 10 August 1973) on Poloarts [China]
> CL4B-86080 (CD) It's not easy to find these days but shows up
> occasionally on eBay. I personally don't care for either the sound or
> the performance on the RCA and both are better on the Poloarts.
you're not in a position to judge the sound of the erstwhile RCA.
> For
> just Book I the Moscow performance 20 and 21 April, 1969, recently re-
> released and discussed here a month or two ago, is the one to get.
idea what the recent thread was?
SE.
maready
May 24, 2012, 1:17:21 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 12:43 pm, wagnerfan <ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:29:40 -0700, Steve Emerson
>
>
>
>
>
> <eme...@n-n-nospamsonic.net> wrote:
> >In article <gfesr7p52k3d0t1ck1889p4kebed61o...@4ax.com>,
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:29:40 -0700, Steve Emerson
>
>
>
>
>
> <eme...@n-n-nospamsonic.net> wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
For what it's worth, I had the same bad reaction to the RCA/BMG
transfer, which is muddy, nasty sounding and very uninviting. I'm
quite tolerant about sound quality and have heard (and even enjoyed)
numerous Richter recordings that sound as if they were recorded on a
boombox in a railway station men's room, but the WTC was too much even
for me. I don't really obsess about transfers to the extent that some
do here, but Steve Emerson insisted that I'd be pleasantly surprised
and I ordered these last year. The difference is incredible --- I
can't imagine what went wrong with the earlier transfer. Not only is
this now one of my favorite piano WTCs, it's one of the best-sounding
Richter recordings I've ever encountered. And the price is right.
Just to be clear, here is the issue I recommend:
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-J-S-Das-Wohltemperierte-Klavier/dp/B002K8BJS2/ref=sr_1_36?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337879528&sr=1-36
And here are the one(s)s to avoid like the plague:
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Well-Tempered-Clavier-Sviatoslav-Richter/dp/B000026OHN/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337879507&sr=1-1-spell
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Well-Tempered-Clavier-Book-I/dp/B0002VYDY6/ref=sr_1_sc_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337879507&sr=1-3-spell
So, yes, I've done an A/B comparison and this is not a minor
improvement we're talking about here, it's like night and day. I
haven't heard the other transfers that have been mentioned.
mandryka
May 24, 2012, 2:20:22 PM5/24/12
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performance. But I could well have missed something -- if you can
point to a bit where the performance is better I'd be interested.
mandryka
May 24, 2012, 2:29:11 PM5/24/12
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By the way, anyone interested in WTC on piano would do well to check
Rubsam's selections from Bk1 on Naxos. I enjoy what he does much more
than Richter.
Rubsam's selections from Bk1 on Naxos. I enjoy what he does much more
than Richter.
wagnerfan
May 24, 2012, 3:49:29 PM5/24/12
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Wagner fan
mandryka
May 24, 2012, 4:09:27 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 8:49 pm, wagnerfan <ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 11:29:11 -0700 (PDT), mandryka
>
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 11:29:11 -0700 (PDT), mandryka
>
> <howie.st...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >By the way, anyone interested in WTC on piano would do well to check
> >Rubsam's selections from Bk1 on Naxos. I enjoy what he does much more
> >than Richter.
>
> Really??? I don't like his Bach Organ on Naxos much at all.
>
> Wagner fan
I do, --- the AoF especially and quite a bit of CU3 and some of the
> >By the way, anyone interested in WTC on piano would do well to check
> >Rubsam's selections from Bk1 on Naxos. I enjoy what he does much more
> >than Richter.
>
> Really??? I don't like his Bach Organ on Naxos much at all.
>
> Wagner fan
Leipzig Chorales. The more I listen to the trio sonatas the more I
enjoy them.
I think that his WTC selections are really poetic -- by comparison
Richter's WTC seems a bit too dry. It's as if Richter was trying to
avoid playing the music too romantically, quite understandably. But in
doing so he sometimes swung too far in the direction of the
workmanlike and routine. He never found a third way between
romanticism and modernism.
Having said that I've certainly enjoyed Richter in the second half of
book 2. And in the B minor of Book 1 you can hear some real genius I
think.
Rubsam's partitas are fine too, at least to my way of thinking.
Listen for example, Partita 6 or to the allemande of Partita 4. As
far as I hear, no one comes close for emotional depth on piano, while
avoiding killing the music by beautifying it -- except perhaps Tureck
in her Great Pianists recording of the partitas.
Oscar
May 24, 2012, 4:20:48 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 9:29 am, Steve Emerson wrote:
>
> You want the one released by Sony in 2009 and transferred by Yukio
> Takahashi. See my post 72 and others in this thread:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/87fnjsz
In January 2008, I bought Victor VICC60601 at the Tokyo HMV. Have you
>
> You want the one released by Sony in 2009 and transferred by Yukio
> Takahashi. See my post 72 and others in this thread:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/87fnjsz
heard it? Is it just a repackage of the 90's RCA transfer?
http://tinyurl.com/c8ck7de
Steve Emerson
May 24, 2012, 6:27:04 PM5/24/12
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In article
<6a82428a-363f-4c0f...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
I seem to remember some tempos that were considerably faster in the
Innsbruck, to cite one thing. To the point of extreme here and there. No?
SE.
<6a82428a-363f-4c0f...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
Innsbruck, to cite one thing. To the point of extreme here and there. No?
SE.
Steve Emerson
May 24, 2012, 11:11:27 PM5/24/12
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In article
<2f923d54-2736-47bd...@st3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
I haven't heard this one. I take it Takahashi isn't mentioned anywhere?
See Maready's post for a good description of the RCA vs the Sony.
If the piano sound on yours seems anything like normal, if it would
never occur to you to call it brash or nasty, you probably don't have
the RCA.
I got rid of the latter but I'll try to see about posting a FLAC from
the Sony if you're interested.
SE.
<2f923d54-2736-47bd...@st3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
See Maready's post for a good description of the RCA vs the Sony.
If the piano sound on yours seems anything like normal, if it would
never occur to you to call it brash or nasty, you probably don't have
the RCA.
I got rid of the latter but I'll try to see about posting a FLAC from
the Sony if you're interested.
SE.
mandryka
May 25, 2012, 2:58:42 AM5/25/12
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> <6a82428a-363f-4c0f-9dba-73e2f3248...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
You could be right.
I don’t have the RCA – I didn’t keep the old bad transfer and when I
listen to his WTC I always go for Innsbruck). But I did just look the
Innsbruck and RCA in the B minor of Book 1 (spotify have uploaded the
new transfer of Bool 1) and in terms of elapsed time, it’s 7.52 + 7.33
on RCA, while the Innsbruck is 14 .51. So the RCA looks like it’s
half a minute longer.
I wonder if that time gain is mostly in the fugue. I do recall, years
ago, comparing the two versions in that final prelude and fugue and
preferring the RCA, because it was so rapt.
I haven’t got time to explore this much over the next couple of weeks
as I’m travelling, but I’ll be keen to pick it up again when I get
back to London.
I don’t have the RCA – I didn’t keep the old bad transfer and when I
listen to his WTC I always go for Innsbruck). But I did just look the
Innsbruck and RCA in the B minor of Book 1 (spotify have uploaded the
new transfer of Bool 1) and in terms of elapsed time, it’s 7.52 + 7.33
on RCA, while the Innsbruck is 14 .51. So the RCA looks like it’s
half a minute longer.
I wonder if that time gain is mostly in the fugue. I do recall, years
ago, comparing the two versions in that final prelude and fugue and
preferring the RCA, because it was so rapt.
I haven’t got time to explore this much over the next couple of weeks
as I’m travelling, but I’ll be keen to pick it up again when I get
back to London.
davidah1
May 25, 2012, 11:57:25 AM5/25/12
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Steve Emerson
May 25, 2012, 12:32:24 PM5/25/12
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In article <c00edecf-ede4-4ee7...@googlegroups.com>,
My impression was that Richter, or was it the estate, vetoed the
release. So you're certain PoloArts didn't simply copy the JVC issue of
the Innsbruck material?
> Sadly, it is another example of copyright
> infringement, despite it supposedly being authorized by Victor. Different
> recordings. Not worth the trouble.
I guess it depends on how badly people want to hear the Innsbruck. It
was certainly worth the trouble I went to, just ordering off eBay from a
guy up in Canada who had a supply. Several years ago. I think John got
it from the same guy.
SE.
release. So you're certain PoloArts didn't simply copy the JVC issue of
the Innsbruck material?
> Sadly, it is another example of copyright
> infringement, despite it supposedly being authorized by Victor. Different
> recordings. Not worth the trouble.
was certainly worth the trouble I went to, just ordering off eBay from a
guy up in Canada who had a supply. Several years ago. I think John got
it from the same guy.
SE.
Matthew B. Tepper
May 25, 2012, 9:48:22 PM5/25/12
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John Thomas <abras...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:0235a9d1-43ec-45c6-8407-
904e83...@e9g2000pbh.googlegroups.com:
> On May 24, 9:04 am, wagnerfan <ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 08:21:02 -0700 (PDT), basnperson
>
>> >listening on youtube............. sounds quite fine to me. Are they
>> >more than one recording?
>>
>> >AB
>>
>> I think so - there is the RCA made in a church but also some live
>> concert material. Wagner fan
>
> Here's the a bit out of date discography:
Which one is BMG 74321-95863-2?
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> On May 24, 9:04 am, wagnerfan <ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 08:21:02 -0700 (PDT), basnperson
>
>> >listening on youtube............. sounds quite fine to me. Are they
>> >more than one recording?
>>
>> >AB
>>
>> I think so - there is the RCA made in a church but also some live
>> concert material. Wagner fan
>
> Here's the a bit out of date discography:
--
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weary flake
May 26, 2012, 5:19:32 PM5/26/12
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> Actually, it is a CHINESE release. The sound and presentation are inferior to
> the Victor release, which was pretty much immediately discontinued due to
> some sort of legal issues. Sadly, it is another example of copyright
> infringement, despite it supposedly being authorized by Victor. Different
> recordings. Not worth the trouble.
The Poloarts has a fat booklet with it; I can't read the language
> the Victor release, which was pretty much immediately discontinued due to
> some sort of legal issues. Sadly, it is another example of copyright
> infringement, despite it supposedly being authorized by Victor. Different
> recordings. Not worth the trouble.
but I can see it includes cute Richter baby and kiddie pictures.
What is it that is inferior of the Poloarts to the JVC release?
Mort
May 26, 2012, 5:45:18 PM5/26/12
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weary flake wrote:
I read the interesting posts about the Sony WTC by Richter, and wish to
purchase those CDs. However, the links point to RCA and Europa labels.
May I please have the order number of the Sony remastered set, so that I
can purchase it.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Mort Linder
> avidah1<davida...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:29:40 AM UTC-7, Steve Emerson wrote:
>>> > > In article<gfesr7p52k3d0t1ck...@4ax.com>,
>>> > > wagnerfan<ivanm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>>> > > > Based on some excerpts I heard i was thinking of getting this
>>>> > > > recording but I have read some reservations about the sound. It was
>>>> > > > the RCA release I auditioned. But some posters said there were other
>>>> > > > transfers with better sound (Japan). Can anyone confirm or does it
>>>> > > > really make that much of a difference - the excerpts I heard were very
>>>> > > > tubby sounding but acceptable.
>>> > >
>>> > > You want the one released by Sony in 2009 and transferred by Yukio
>>> > > Takahashi. See my post 72 and others in this thread:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://tinyurl.com/87fnjsz
>>> > >
Hi,
>
>> > On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:29:40 AM UTC-7, Steve Emerson wrote:
>>> > > In article<gfesr7p52k3d0t1ck...@4ax.com>,
>>> > > wagnerfan<ivanm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>>> > > > Based on some excerpts I heard i was thinking of getting this
>>>> > > > recording but I have read some reservations about the sound. It was
>>>> > > > the RCA release I auditioned. But some posters said there were other
>>>> > > > transfers with better sound (Japan). Can anyone confirm or does it
>>>> > > > really make that much of a difference - the excerpts I heard were very
>>>> > > > tubby sounding but acceptable.
>>> > >
>>> > > You want the one released by Sony in 2009 and transferred by Yukio
>>> > > Takahashi. See my post 72 and others in this thread:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://tinyurl.com/87fnjsz
>>> > >
I read the interesting posts about the Sony WTC by Richter, and wish to
purchase those CDs. However, the links point to RCA and Europa labels.
May I please have the order number of the Sony remastered set, so that I
can purchase it.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Mort Linder
Alan Cooper
May 26, 2012, 7:20:52 PM5/26/12
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Mort <mo...@cloud9.net> wrote in
news:4fc14ee9$0$14816$607e...@cv.net:
Book 1: 88697 57399 2 (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Eurodisc/88697573992)
Book 2: 88697 57400 2 (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Eurodisc/88697574002)
Copyright 2009 Sony Music Entertainment, although the front covers read
"Melodia/Eurodisc."
AC
news:4fc14ee9$0$14816$607e...@cv.net:
Book 2: 88697 57400 2 (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Eurodisc/88697574002)
Copyright 2009 Sony Music Entertainment, although the front covers read
"Melodia/Eurodisc."
AC
maready
May 26, 2012, 8:03:14 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 7:20 pm, Alan Cooper <amcoo...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
> Mort <m...@cloud9.net> wrote innews:4fc14ee9$0$14816$607e...@cv.net:
>
>
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> >> avidah1<davidah22...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > > wagnerfan<ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
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says, the CD package says Eurodisc, but these are the Sonys we've been
discussing in this thread, and they are well worth tracking down.
> Mort <m...@cloud9.net> wrote innews:4fc14ee9$0$14816$607e...@cv.net:
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> >> avidah1<davidah22...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> > On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:29:40 AM UTC-7, Steve Emerson
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> >>>> > > In article<gfesr7p52k3d0t1ck1889p4kebed61o...@4ax.com>,
> >>> > On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:29:40 AM UTC-7, Steve Emerson
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> > > wagnerfan<ivanmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Mort --- the links Alan Cooper provides are the ones you want. As he
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says, the CD package says Eurodisc, but these are the Sonys we've been
discussing in this thread, and they are well worth tracking down.
Steve Emerson
May 26, 2012, 8:31:22 PM5/26/12
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In article <4fc14ee9$0$14816$607e...@cv.net>, Mort <mo...@cloud9.net>
wrote:
If you want it from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002K8BJS2/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002K8BJSC
One book per link.
SE.
wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002K8BJS2/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002K8BJSC
One book per link.
SE.
Mort
May 26, 2012, 8:47:25 PM5/26/12
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Steve Emerson wrote:
> In article<4fc14ee9$0$14816$607e...@cv.net>, Mort<mo...@cloud9.net>
Hi,
Thanks a lot. I just successfully ordered the 2 Books' CDs from Amazon.
The Presto company called my credit card invalid, even though it is
certainly valid.
Thanks also to the friend who posted the Presto company. It is a
pleasure to be involved with such nice people.
The thing that confused me was having a Sony remastered set on the
Eurodisc label, inasmuch as there is an older set on that label.
I look forward to hearing the new set.
Thanks again.
Mort Linder
> In article<4fc14ee9$0$14816$607e...@cv.net>, Mort<mo...@cloud9.net>
Thanks a lot. I just successfully ordered the 2 Books' CDs from Amazon.
The Presto company called my credit card invalid, even though it is
certainly valid.
Thanks also to the friend who posted the Presto company. It is a
pleasure to be involved with such nice people.
The thing that confused me was having a Sony remastered set on the
Eurodisc label, inasmuch as there is an older set on that label.
I look forward to hearing the new set.
Thanks again.
Mort Linder
Randy Lane
May 28, 2012, 9:37:12 PM5/28/12
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> > Hi,
> > I read the interesting posts about the Sony WTC by Richter, and wish to
> > purchase those CDs. However, the links point to RCA and Europa labels.
> > May I please have the order number of the Sony remastered set, so that I
> > can purchase it.
>
Just to be sure, does any one know for sure if these Sony releases
> > I read the interesting posts about the Sony WTC by Richter, and wish to
> > purchase those CDs. However, the links point to RCA and Europa labels.
> > May I please have the order number of the Sony remastered set, so that I
> > can purchase it.
>
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002K8BJS2/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002K8BJSC
have the same recordings as these Olympia releases?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058TJM1Q
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004FLW37S
The discography on post #6 of this thread shows the Olympia being
derived from the "Salzburg and Vienna, 1970 - 1973" set.
And from CD the covers, the Sony links above look to be from the
Eurodisc/Melodiya LPs of that set.
Steve Emerson
May 28, 2012, 11:35:17 PM5/28/12
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In article
<6935680a-aae3-4d7f...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
They're going to be the same, but in better sound. A) Olympia Russian
material is always Melodiya. B) Eurodisc/Melodiya/RCA/Sony complete WTC
-- all are the said Salzburg/Vienna. C) The only other complete WTC is
the suppressed Innsbruck recently out on PoloArts.
PS: Here's the complete Richter discography whence the mentioned WTC
excerpt comes:
http://www.trovar.com/str/discs/index.html
SE.
<6935680a-aae3-4d7f...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
material is always Melodiya. B) Eurodisc/Melodiya/RCA/Sony complete WTC
-- all are the said Salzburg/Vienna. C) The only other complete WTC is
the suppressed Innsbruck recently out on PoloArts.
PS: Here's the complete Richter discography whence the mentioned WTC
excerpt comes:
http://www.trovar.com/str/discs/index.html
SE.
Oscar
Jun 14, 2012, 3:40:27 PM6/14/12
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On August 1, Sony Japan will release Richter's WTC on two-channel
hybrid SACD as a four-disc set, cat. no. SICC10144
From HMV Japan via Google Translate http://tinyurl.com/cfnd3eu
<<This time over SACD hybrid DSD mastering using the 2ch original
analog master enters splice authentic are stored was Omoto of this
recording was released from the label a variety of in many countries
around the world, and Germany Sonopuresu (SACD layer is 2ch), will be
released as a remastered definitive. (SONY / RCA)>>
hybrid SACD as a four-disc set, cat. no. SICC10144
From HMV Japan via Google Translate http://tinyurl.com/cfnd3eu
<<This time over SACD hybrid DSD mastering using the 2ch original
analog master enters splice authentic are stored was Omoto of this
recording was released from the label a variety of in many countries
around the world, and Germany Sonopuresu (SACD layer is 2ch), will be
released as a remastered definitive. (SONY / RCA)>>
blut...@gmail.com
Sep 26, 2015, 4:11:31 PM9/26/15
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On Tuesday, 29 May 2012 04:35:17 UTC+1, Steve Emerson wrote:
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1) There was another release by Alto in 2014. Here is a link to it on Amazon:
http://tinyurl.com/pud33q5
Does anyone know how this compares to the two 2009 Sony/Eurodisc remasters which have been the recommended releases so far in this thread?
2) I've read that Richter himself wasn't entirely happy with his Salzburg Book II recording, claiming it was "riddled with mistakes". (http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/91553/91580) Is this true, or just an exaggeration? I don't have a high tolerance for wrong notes, so if there are quite a number I may pass on this recording.
Bluto
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> They're going to be the same, but in better sound. A) Olympia Russian
> material is always Melodiya. B) Eurodisc/Melodiya/RCA/Sony complete WTC
> -- all are the said Salzburg/Vienna. C) The only other complete WTC is
> the suppressed Innsbruck recently out on PoloArts.
>
> PS: Here's the complete Richter discography whence the mentioned WTC
> excerpt comes:
>
> http://www.trovar.com/str/discs/index.html
>
> SE.
I am tempted to buy Richter's 1970-73 recordings of the WTC and have two questions:
> They're going to be the same, but in better sound. A) Olympia Russian
> material is always Melodiya. B) Eurodisc/Melodiya/RCA/Sony complete WTC
> -- all are the said Salzburg/Vienna. C) The only other complete WTC is
> the suppressed Innsbruck recently out on PoloArts.
>
> PS: Here's the complete Richter discography whence the mentioned WTC
> excerpt comes:
>
> http://www.trovar.com/str/discs/index.html
>
> SE.
1) There was another release by Alto in 2014. Here is a link to it on Amazon:
http://tinyurl.com/pud33q5
Does anyone know how this compares to the two 2009 Sony/Eurodisc remasters which have been the recommended releases so far in this thread?
2) I've read that Richter himself wasn't entirely happy with his Salzburg Book II recording, claiming it was "riddled with mistakes". (http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/91553/91580) Is this true, or just an exaggeration? I don't have a high tolerance for wrong notes, so if there are quite a number I may pass on this recording.
Bluto
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