> Greg wrote, On 8/17/12 11:37 AM:
>> On Aug 17, 11:00 am, wkasimer <wkasi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On Aug 17, 10:37 am, Bob Harper <bob.har...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> All very interesting, but given the 192kbps sampling rate (why on earth
>>>> couldn't they have gone to 256 at least?) I'm not giving any of these a
>>>> thought.
>>> The ones I bought have a 320 sampling rate, and sound fine.
>>> Bill
>> ditto here
> The Schumann set says it's 192.
> Kip W
It appears different labels are different bitrates.
Bis and Chandos are 320K, at least the ones I looked at.
I got the Bis Sibelius, even though I have several of the
recordings at lower bitrates ... but all the 19 hours!
I'm also downloading the Bax now. Downloads are slooooooowwww.
> Do you know if this is the original Borodin Quartet or its later
> incarnation?
I don't think that the Borodin Quartet has recorded the Beethoven quartets more
than once. At least not for Chandos.
These are the members on the Chandos recording:
Borodin Quartet (Ruben Aharonian (violin), Andre Abramenkov (violin), Igor
Naidin (viola), Valentin Berlinsky (cello))
rec. Small Hall, and Great Hall, Conservatory, Moscow, Russia, 2003-2006.
>> Do you know if this is the original Borodin Quartet or its later
>> incarnation?
> I don't think that the Borodin Quartet has recorded the Beethoven quartets more
> than once. At least not for Chandos.
> These are the members on the Chandos recording:
> Borodin Quartet (Ruben Aharonian (violin), Andre Abramenkov (violin), Igor
> Naidin (viola), Valentin Berlinsky (cello))
> rec. Small Hall, and Great Hall, Conservatory, Moscow, Russia, 2003-2006.
There is (or was) a set of Op. 18 with the old members (Dubinsky, Alexandrov, Shebalin, Berlinsky) reissued on Chandos Historical (CHAN 10009). I am not aware of any other Beethoven by that lineup.
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:42:56 -0700 (PDT), Greg wrote:
> I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
How does this compare to Gielen's superb EMI Beethoven cycle?
<matthew.silverst...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:42:56 -0700 (PDT), Greg wrote:
> > I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> > Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> > 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
> How does this compare to Gielen's superb EMI Beethoven cycle?
> Matty
No idea, as I have never heard the EMI cycle. Is it for sale
anywhere?
Fwiw, so far I have only listened to the 6th from this newer cycle,
and found it good but not a challenger to my favorites.
> <matthew.silverst...@ymail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:42:56 -0700 (PDT), Greg wrote:
> > > I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> > > Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> > > 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
> > How does this compare to Gielen's superb EMI Beethoven cycle?
> > Matty
> No idea, as I have never heard the EMI cycle. Is it for sale
> anywhere?
> Fwiw, so far I have only listened to the 6th from this newer cycle,
> and found it good but not a challenger to my favorites.
> Greg
Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem to
prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the audio-
only version that Hanssler is now issuing).
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:17:19 -0700 (PDT), jrsnfld wrote:
> Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
> tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem to
> prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the audio-
> only version that Hanssler is now issuing).
I admit that I haven't listened to the whole thing in quite a while. The
EMI recording of the 5th, though, remains one of my favorites.
> On Friday, August 17, 2012 8:36:10 AM UTC-7, Greg wrote:
> > On Aug 17, 11:20 am, Alan Cooper <amcoo...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Concerning the truncated files, did you download them using 7digital's own
> > > downloader? I experienced many errors when using it, not only corrupted files but
> > > also files that were marked as successfully downloaded and then were nowhere to be
> > > found on my computer! I never had a problem when I circumvented the downloader.
> > > Try doing that if you haven't already, assuming that 7digital still allows you to
> > > do so.
> > > AC
> > Yes, I tried that as well (for one of the files anyway). Same exact
> > track length for the mp3 and aac files in the zips as the single file
> > downloaded via the download manager. It is odd because the files are
> > not truncated but instead skip material in the middle and then go on
> > to have the normal ending. And this problem afflicts all the first
> > movements, but not the 2nd or 3rd (I think, based on track lengths -
> > haven't listened to them all to check.) I sent them a note to
> > complain, but I don't know if they have responded yet.
> > Greg
> I've been able to download via the downloader, but the problem is that even though it looks like the files are there, there is nothing in the file. If I look at properties I can see the that there are 0 bytes in the file. I am awaiting a response. I did however get the Boult Schumann/Berlioz set with no problem, burned the discs and have listened in bits just to see how things came out. I'll keep trying for the Gielen Mahler...
> Stan Punzel
I have the same problem (for DLing the Alexander SQ's Beethoven) -
files are there but they are empty (0 bytes).
After complaining 7digital sent me the following note:
Hello,
We are extremely sorry for the problem you have encountered.
We are experiencing a few technical difficulties and we are currently
unable to deliver the item you have purchased. We hope to resolve this
issue very soon, but if you do not wish to wait any longer, we will be
happy to issue you with a full refund or to exchange your purchase for
something of a similar value.
Please let us know which option you would like to take.
Again, please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:28:57 PM, Matthew Silverstein wrote:
> > Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
> > tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem to
> > prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the audio-
> > only version that Hanssler is now issuing).
> I admit that I haven't listened to the whole thing in quite a while. The
> EMI recording of the 5th, though, remains one of my favorites.
I concur. The opening Allegro con brio is one of the most wicked and demonic-sounding versions on disc. It's loud. The entire symphony is flexible yet rock solid. As all-out as the SWF players put out (it is an energetic performance), the star in my opinion is Gielen, who is an admirable marshal, highlighting everything masterfully and keeping dynamic tension and tempos in perfect proportion. Great Fifth, definitely one of the top modern instrument, DDD versions.
A Production of Südwestfunk Baden-Baden
Recorded in August & September, 1992.
Sound supervision: Bernhard Mangold-Märkel
Sound engineer: Frank Wild
Editing: Bernhard Mangold-Markel
> On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:28:57 PM, Matthew Silverstein wrote:
> > > Gielen's EMI cycle is superb? I should listen again. Last time I
> > > tried, I had trouble getting much out of it. Most reviewers seem
> > > to prefer his video cycle (which is, I believe, the same as the
> > > audio- only version that Hanssler is now issuing).
> > I admit that I haven't listened to the whole thing in quite a
> > while. The EMI recording of the 5th, though, remains one of my
> > favorites.
> I concur. The opening Allegro con brio is one of the most wicked and
> demonic-sounding versions on disc. It's loud. The entire symphony is
> flexible yet rock solid. As all-out as the SWF players put out (it is
> an energetic performance), the star in my opinion is Gielen, who is
> an admirable marshal, highlighting everything masterfully and keeping
> dynamic tension and tempos in perfect proportion. Great Fifth,
> definitely one of the top modern instrument, DDD versions.
I don't "get" this. I just listened to the opening movement, and I think it's
good, but not something special.
To which other recordings did you compare this?
Anyone else having problems opening the Oppitz Beethoven Zip file? I am using 7Zip and get an error even after re-downloading. For the Talich Mozart quartets I found that there was a secondary Zip file inside that i was able to unzip but I cannot get "inside" the Oppitz zip folder to see the contents. Same happened with the Vanska Sibelius zip file.
Make sure one tried to listen to the excerpts first as I tried ordering this and the files weren't there and still aren't. They ended up refunding my money because they could not supply the music files.
> I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
> This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
> (for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
> contains 1 disc or several. Unfortunately the site is so poorly
> organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
> few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:
> If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
> poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
> the findings here...)
> Greg
Add Markl's more than complete orchestral works of Debussy to the
list:
> On Aug 15, 9:42 pm, Greg <oneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I was looking for a cheap way to acquire Gielen's recently-released
> > Beethoven cycle on Hanssler, and I stumbled across the full cycle as
> > 320 kbps mp3s at 7digital for $9.99:
> > This seems to be part of a pricing anomaly, where this particular site
> > (for certain labels) charges $9.99 for a given item, whether it
> > contains 1 disc or several. Unfortunately the site is so poorly
> > organized that it is a chore to find anything, but I did run across a
> > few more instances of this sort of thing, if anyone is interested:
> > If anyone has more time and/or patience than I do, it may be worth
> > poking around the site to see what other bargains exist (and posting
> > the findings here...)
> > Greg
> Add Markl's more than complete orchestral works of Debussy to the
> list:
Add me to the chorus of people saying 7Digital's downloader is junk. I
wound up downloading half the tracks on the Markl Debussy set
individually, since the downloader truncated them. I'd give up on
them, but I'm tempted by the Krivine Beethoven, which doesn't seem to
be available in MP3 elsewhere. How is the Krivine set? A must hear or
just another Beethoven cycle?
> Add me to the chorus of people saying 7Digital's downloader is junk. I
> wound up downloading half the tracks on the Markl Debussy set
> individually, since the downloader truncated them. I'd give up on
> them, but I'm tempted by the Krivine Beethoven, which doesn't seem to
> be available in MP3 elsewhere. How is the Krivine set? A must hear or
> just another Beethoven cycle?
I am not eagerly anticipating having to download the individual tracks of the BIS Sibelius set. Working thru downloading the individual Oppitz Beethoven tracks now. Works fine and they play without issue.
