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SevenSeas

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Oct 31, 2002, 12:15:15 PM10/31/02
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Hi, do you know any classical LP cover art site(s), yahoo or msn
groups, or newsgroups on the net, it will be nice to see vintage
columbia, rca, decca, dg or any other labels in their original cover
art. I will be very glad if someone knows any place over net. i'm a
graphic designer and classical collector too:)

Thanks!

Matthew B. Tepper

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Oct 31, 2002, 3:46:42 PM10/31/02
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SevenSeas <mur...@turk.net> wrote in
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I can think of several categories of classical LP cover art.

There are the functional/historical ones, such as Columbia "tombstones" or
RCA Vault Treasure releases.

Early minimal designs, some of them copied from or at least inspired by the
78 album art, such as the Bruno Walter "Eroica" with Napoleon on it.

1950s-kitsch designs, including the almost-bare-breasted woman on the cover
of the Anserment "Scheherazade," the cool-era RCA Living Stereo photos,
extreme close-up conductor photos, etc.

Humorous covers, as we associate with Crossroads or Westminster Gold.
(Either of these labels is worth a thread in itself.)

1960s-style "head" covers, like the whole Orphic Egg line from London
Records.

Does anybody have any more to add?

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Paul Goldstein

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Oct 31, 2002, 4:02:28 PM10/31/02
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In article <aps4r...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Matthew says...

>
>SevenSeas <mur...@turk.net> wrote in
>news:311020021915154889%mur...@turk.net:
>
>> Hi, do you know any classical LP cover art site(s), yahoo or msn
>> groups, or newsgroups on the net, it will be nice to see vintage
>> columbia, rca, decca, dg or any other labels in their original cover
>> art. I will be very glad if someone knows any place over net. i'm a
>> graphic designer and classical collector too:)
>
>I can think of several categories of classical LP cover art.
>
>There are the functional/historical ones, such as Columbia "tombstones" or
>RCA Vault Treasure releases.
>
>Early minimal designs, some of them copied from or at least inspired by the
>78 album art, such as the Bruno Walter "Eroica" with Napoleon on it.
>
>1950s-kitsch designs, including the almost-bare-breasted woman on the cover
>of the Anserment "Scheherazade," the cool-era RCA Living Stereo photos,
>extreme close-up conductor photos, etc.
>
>Humorous covers, as we associate with Crossroads or Westminster Gold.
>(Either of these labels is worth a thread in itself.)
>
>1960s-style "head" covers, like the whole Orphic Egg line from London
>Records.
>
>Does anybody have any more to add?

Reproductions of famous or not-so-famous paintings. Little did Caspar David
Friedrich realize how much exposure this medium would give him.

Paul Goldstein

Steve Hehr

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Oct 31, 2002, 4:53:39 PM10/31/02
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On 31 Oct 2002 20:46:42 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net>
wrote:

>SevenSeas <mur...@turk.net> wrote in
>news:311020021915154889%mur...@turk.net:
>
>> Hi, do you know any classical LP cover art site(s), yahoo or msn
>> groups, or newsgroups on the net, it will be nice to see vintage
>> columbia, rca, decca, dg or any other labels in their original cover
>> art. I will be very glad if someone knows any place over net. i'm a
>> graphic designer and classical collector too:)
>
>I can think of several categories of classical LP cover art.
>
>There are the functional/historical ones, such as Columbia "tombstones" or
>RCA Vault Treasure releases.
>
>Early minimal designs, some of them copied from or at least inspired by the
>78 album art, such as the Bruno Walter "Eroica" with Napoleon on it.
>
>1950s-kitsch designs, including the almost-bare-breasted woman on the cover
>of the Anserment "Scheherazade," the cool-era RCA Living Stereo photos,
>extreme close-up conductor photos, etc.
>
>Humorous covers, as we associate with Crossroads or Westminster Gold.
>(Either of these labels is worth a thread in itself.)
>
>1960s-style "head" covers, like the whole Orphic Egg line from London
>Records.
>
>Does anybody have any more to add?

I rather liked the vivid, colorful drawings on many of the Nonesuch
covers, such as the ones on the Ristenpart "Kunst der Fuge", or the
Beethoven Trio Op. 87/Sextet Op. 71.

Another favorite of mine (though not a category) was the "ice cubes
in a silvery stream" on Columbia's recording of Berio conducting his
Sinfonia. Seemed ultra-modern to me, at the time. I must have been
about 17 or 18 when that came out and, though I was already into
classical music, I think it was the intriguing design of that album
cover (at a time when some stores displayed featured albums full-face)
that made me take a closer look at it, ultimately inducing me to buy
it.


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Owen Hartnett

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Oct 31, 2002, 5:27:32 PM10/31/02
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In article <aps5p...@drn.newsguy.com>, Paul Goldstein
<pgol...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> Reproductions of famous or not-so-famous paintings. Little did Caspar David
> Friedrich realize how much exposure this medium would give him.

Which album(s) had a Friedrich? I take it from your post there were
several?

-Owen

david gideon

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Oct 31, 2002, 5:31:31 PM10/31/02
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In article <311020021915154889%mur...@turk.net>, SevenSeas
<mur...@turk.net> wrote:

There's one here:

http://www.geocities.com/tjb49/Classical_Vinyl_Artwork.html

dg

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vinyl1

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Oct 31, 2002, 6:34:10 PM10/31/02
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There is a Japanese gentleman who is a fanatic UK Decca collector, and has a
site devoted to the label. It contains a full discography, a labelography,
and as full a set of covers as he has been able to collect. Click on the
thumbnails to see the full-sized pictures:

http://www.ha.sakura.ne.jp/~ardente/British/menu/index.htm

The UK covers are certainly in much better taste than their kitschy US
London equivalents.

-vinyl1


John Wiser

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Oct 31, 2002, 6:41:25 PM10/31/02
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Owen Hartnett asks, [after Paul Goldstein remarked]


>
> > Reproductions of famous or not-so-famous paintings. Little did Caspar
David
> > Friedrich realize how much exposure this medium would give him.
>
> Which album(s) had a Friedrich? I take it from your post there were
> several?
>

I shall undertake a quintessentially vague rmcr response: Several DG LPs
and sets of the 70s, perhaps more than several.
IIRC repros of Friedrich graced productions of music by Schubert, Brahms,
Mahler, Pfitzner, and possibly Henze...although the last named composer
seems a trifle malapropos. I find that none of these survive among the
3000
or so LPs I have retained. Other labels also "employed" this artist,
though
no specific recollection surfaces from the ever murkier past. I'm sure DG
started it.
---
John Wiser
cee...@frontiernet.not

Paul Goldstein

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Oct 31, 2002, 6:47:21 PM10/31/02
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In article <311020021727353727%ow...@xids.xnet>, Owen Hartnett says...

I think so, but I'll need to rummage around a bit before I can give specifics.

Paul Goldstein

Ward Hardman

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Oct 31, 2002, 7:23:35 PM10/31/02
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vinyl1 <vin...@earthlink.net> wrote:
: There is a Japanese gentleman who is a fanatic UK Decca collector, and has a

: http://www.ha.sakura.ne.jp/~ardente/British/menu/index.htm

Do you refer to such album covers as Peter Maag's Mendelssohn "Midsummer's
Night Dream" music, where there was a photo of a guy wearing a donkey head?
(I alway thought that the designer of that series went on to work for
Everest, as demonstrated by such covers as the Stokowski Strauss Don/Till.)

Does anybody remember the US HMV series of the mid-'50s, in which single
LPs were placed in boxes with a square hole cut out of the front, behind
which which a "frameable" print reposed? My first version of the Furtwangler
VPO Strauss Don/Till, plus Weber's Freischuetz and Oberon overtures came
in such a box.

The RCA Soria series set standards for packaging and annotation which I
have not seen surpassed. One example of that was Julian Bream's "Golden
age of English Lute Music."

Early multidisk DGG albums were also of very high quality, with cloth
binding, etc. I have a 3-LP mono Orff "Trionfi" with Jochum, the
Richter Bach Mass in d Minor, and the Hotter Werba "Winterreise" that fall
into that category.

Which RCA album was is it that featured an actual "drawer" in the album,
which could be pulled out to present the records? (I never saw that
album, so my description may be inaccurate... It may have been Schnabel's
Beethoven sonatas or an album commemorating the Mozart birth bicentennial
in 1956.)

--Ward Hardman

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Ward Hardman

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Oct 31, 2002, 7:56:30 PM10/31/02
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vinyl1 <vin...@earthlink.net> wrote:
: There is a Japanese gentleman who is a fanatic UK Decca collector, and has a

: http://www.ha.sakura.ne.jp/~ardente/British/menu/index.htm

Do you refer to such album covers as Peter Maag's Mendelssohn "Midsummer's

Matthew B. Tepper

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Oct 31, 2002, 7:45:01 PM10/31/02
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Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in
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> Does anybody remember the US HMV series of the mid-'50s, in which
> single LPs were placed in boxes with a square hole cut out of the
> front, behind which which a "frameable" print reposed? My first
> version of the Furtwangler VPO Strauss Don/Till, plus Weber's
> Freischuetz and Oberon overtures came in such a box.

Toscanini's Beethoven Missa Solemnis had something similar, even unto the
cheaper later editions.

Paul Goldstein

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Oct 31, 2002, 9:19:32 PM10/31/02
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In article <01c28139$1eb088c0$fa9682d1@candacew>, "John says...

Thanks for bailing me out, John. Your post reminded me of at least one
Friedrich cover: Pollini's DGG Schubert Wanderer Fantasy and D. 784 sonata [? -
I forget which sonata was on that LP].

By the way, John, are you pleased to see the New Music Qt.'s Opus 59/3 reissued
on CD? I just got my copy from Bartok (superb service - it took about 4 days),
and the mastering seems superb to me. What a performance.

Paul Goldstein

John Wiser

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Oct 31, 2002, 10:39:17 PM10/31/02
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Paul Goldstein tries to change the subject after eye rote:

> >I shall undertake a quintessentially vague rmcr response: Several DG
LPs
> >and sets of the 70s, perhaps more than several [were graced by repros
of Friedrich] [bla...bla...bla...]

> Thanks for bailing me out, John. Your post reminded me of at least one
> Friedrich cover: Pollini's DGG Schubert Wanderer Fantasy and D. 784
sonata [? -
> I forget which sonata was on that LP].
>
One of the A minors, for sure. Which reminds me that Solomon's recording
of
D.784 came out here in one of those LHMV frame boxes with a laid-in
"School
of J.L.David" pic of a rrravishing young lady ["Mlle. Charlotte Val
d'Ognes"??]
also used many years later by Harmonia Mundi for a Mozartean Trio Schubert
CD.
Someone with the inclination and lots of time on their hands could do
a neat-oh "icono-discography" on major musical iconographic themes and
associations.

> By the way, John, are you pleased to see the New Music Qt.'s Opus 59/3
reissued
> on CD? I just got my copy from Bartok (superb service - it took about 4
days),
> and the mastering seems superb to me. What a performance.
>
Extatick!, but I'm holding off ordering until PB comes out with the Violin
Sonatas
coupling with Mann and Hambro. I may be alone in regarding Leonid Hambro
as a
great pianist; last year at Princeton Record Exchange I found the Walden
mono
LP of Hambro's Griffes program [Piano Sonata and Roman Sketches], which I
hadn't seen or heard in forty years. It blew me away in my goosey youth
and still does.
Also pleased to find last week in the same shop the Juilliard Quartet's
1963 Bartók cycle, still sealed but sold "used" at $9.99. This kind of
find seems to make
my 185-mile round trip drives worthwhile.

John Wiser
cee...@frontiernet.net

Eric Nagamine

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Oct 31, 2002, 11:12:36 PM10/31/02
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Ward Hardman wrote:
>
> vinyl1 <vin...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> : There is a Japanese gentleman who is a fanatic UK Decca collector, and has a
> : site devoted to the label. It contains a full discography, a labelography,
> : and as full a set of covers as he has been able to collect. Click on the
> : thumbnails to see the full-sized pictures:
>
> : http://www.ha.sakura.ne.jp/~ardente/British/menu/index.htm
>
> : The UK covers are certainly in much better taste than their kitschy US
> : London equivalents.
>
> Do you refer to such album covers as Peter Maag's Mendelssohn "Midsummer's
> Night Dream" music, where there was a photo of a guy wearing a donkey head?
> (I alway thought that the designer of that series went on to work for
> Everest, as demonstrated by such covers as the Stokowski Strauss Don/Till.)
>
> Does anybody remember the US HMV series of the mid-'50s, in which single
> LPs were placed in boxes with a square hole cut out of the front, behind
> which a "frameable" print reposed? My first version of the Furtwangler
> VPO Strauss Don/Till, plus Weber's Freischuetz and Oberon overtures came
> in such a box.

Some of these LHMV series recordings were actually first releases
available in the U.S. before they were available in the U.K. Some of the
Furtwangler & Martzy recordings fetch high prices in the collectors
market.

> The RCA Soria series set standards for packaging and annotation which I
> have not seen surpassed. One example of that was Julian Bream's "Golden
> age of English Lute Music."

Many of the early RCA Sorias had tipped in prints of art work. Very
classy. RCA also had two LPs in deluxe editions with framable prints in
oversized gatefold covers with string to tie the covers.

> Which RCA album was is it that featured an actual "drawer" in the album,
> which could be pulled out to present the records? (I never saw that
> album, so my description may be inaccurate... It may have been Schnabel's
> Beethoven sonatas or an album commemorating the Mozart birth bicentennial
> in 1956.)
>

Some of RCA's deluxe opera boxes had flip open tops with a metal clasp
to hold the cover in place. Of course RCA had the famous Fielder/Boston
Pops Lp with a conductors baton imbedded in the cover with instructions
on the back. I think despite some less than great annotation, RCA had
some of the most imaginative art people designing their covers. After
all what other label had Alfred E. Neuman on an LP cover!

Bay Area dealer Ron Penndorf has a website with labelographies &
assorted cover art that is worth a look.

http://ronpenndorf.com/contents.html

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Eric Nagamine
Wait'll next year :(

Joseph Vitale

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Oct 31, 2002, 11:16:26 PM10/31/02
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"vinyl1" <vin...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> There is a Japanese gentleman who is a fanatic UK Decca collector, and
> has a site devoted to the label. It contains a full discography, a
> labelography, and as full a set of covers as he has been able to
> collect. Click on the thumbnails to see the full-sized pictures:
>
> http://www.ha.sakura.ne.jp/~ardente/British/menu/index.htm
>

This site is nice. I wish there was something like it for each of big
classical labels. My only question is why are some of the jpegs enclosed in
frames that look like the outline of an 8-track tape cartridge?

JV

Rob Barnett

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Oct 31, 2002, 11:34:16 PM10/31/02
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My favourites include the covers of Lyrita Recorded Edition LPs (SRCS
prefix) from the late 1970s

The covern of the their recording of the Moeran Symphony ('New Philharmonia
Orchestra of London' conducted by Boult) included, I think, detail from a
Turner.

Their Finzi LP sleeves were also excellent. Intimations of Immortality
SRCS75 and Let Us Garlands Bring. The cover for the Scott Piano Cto 1 was a
sumptuous effort.

Unfortunately Lyrita occasionally showed poor judgement by using a lilac or
other pastel shade for the font of their sleeve notes making them
occasionally difficult to read.

Outstanding design work by Keith Hensby. Mind you the designs of the early
70s and late 60s were grim. The ones for the Bax symphony series
(incomplete) were uniform but uniformly dull.

Rob

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David7Gable

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Jan de Gaetani's Schumann Duets on Nonesuch featured a Friedrich on the cover.
So did several Supraphon issues of Beethoven chamber and piano music.

-david gable

Len at MusicWeb

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Nov 1, 2002, 4:22:56 AM11/1/02
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I rather like the idea of a web site devoted to classical cover art.
Webspace is not a problem on MusicWeb so if anyone would like to
volunteer as an editor to gather in the Cover art graphics and
organize them into some sort of grouping I am willing to provide space
on MusicWeb.

Len Mullenger
L...@musicweb.uk.net
www.musicweb.uk.net/index2.htm

Walter Roth

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Nov 1, 2002, 3:07:55 AM11/1/02
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There is a big range from the yellow covers of the Archiv Production with no
art at all but comprehensive
information on the recording, through the Mad-about- DGG recordings
featuring Roz Chast's funny cartoons.
Have you seen the LP boxes from Erato with green silk-finish? Compare them
to today's low-cost CD covers!
Covers are eye catchers, nothing else. Serious collectors want detailed
recording information and just the music.
I like covers with photos of the artist because it is recording
documentation, Caspar David Friedrich can be looked at different places
than LP/CD covers in more adequate size.

Mathew Tepper has a link to ugly/funny covers.

Can sombody support the Japanese gentleman in providing an english version
of his DECCA site?

Walter Roth


Matthew B. Tepper

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> Mat[t]hew Tepper has a link to ugly/funny covers.

Alas, the site I linked to is long gone.

Elsa Scammell

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In article <Xns92B94C86316...@216.148.53.82>, oy兀earthlink.net (Matthew B. Tepper) wrote:

> "Walter Roth" <Walte...@t-online.de> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in
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>
> > Mat[t]hew Tepper has a link to ugly/funny covers.
>
> Alas, the site I linked to is long gone.
>
> --
> Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!


I have been reading this thread; realised that I have a lot of LP's with interesting covers, but I have a question;
Diana Loewenstein, nee Gollancz, designed a number of sleeves for classical music clubs in the late 1950's-60's.
These took the form either of abstracts or Japanese-style illustrations.

I have never seen any of them and I wondered whether anyone else had.

I would be very interested.

Elsa


>

Brendan R. Wehrung

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Matthew B. Tepper

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Wow! What a great site! Thanks!

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Raymond Luxury Yacht

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Paul Goldstein <pgol...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<apsob...@drn.newsguy.com>...

> Thanks for bailing me out, John. Your post reminded me of at least one
> Friedrich cover: Pollini's DGG Schubert Wanderer Fantasy and D. 784 sonata [? -
> I forget which sonata was on that LP].

CDF is all over the place. Here'e one exmple.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001G79.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

The Watzmann (1824) was used on the cover of Horenstein's Brahms 2 on Unicorn.

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