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Alphonsus Jr.

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Oct 12, 2012, 8:03:41 PM10/12/12
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Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales. I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it. The obvious con involves bass notes.

2cts

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Oct 12, 2012, 8:11:30 PM10/12/12
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:03:41 -0700 (PDT), Alphonsus Jr. wrote:

> Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales.

I like it.

> I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it.

Which of both from coming your stronger power?

> The obvious con involves bass notes.

6 strings...

thomas

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Oct 12, 2012, 8:30:32 PM10/12/12
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On Friday, October 12, 2012 8:03:42 PM UTC-4, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales. I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it. The obvious con involves bass notes.>

It works fine. Don't let it become a distraction from getting your i-m together though. There are no shortcuts.

Cactus Wren

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Oct 12, 2012, 9:11:30 PM10/12/12
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On Friday, October 12, 2012 5:03:42 PM UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales. I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it. The obvious con involves bass notes.

It's awesome! Easy, fast, and sounds great. The only problem is... it's cheating.

Fadosolrélamisi

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Oct 12, 2012, 9:12:09 PM10/12/12
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Le vendredi 12 octobre 2012 17:03:42 UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. a écrit :
> Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales. I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it. The obvious con involves bass notes.

See:

Sor Opus 35 # 13(Segovia #2) (excellent to learn to control and balance P and i dynamic level
Sor Opus 31 # 19 (Segovia #10) p - i speed burst and precision in falling on a
Coste Opus 38 #20 (Endurance and regularity in a very good technical context)
and the hidden jewel equivalent (easier) to Sor Op. 31 #19 (Segovia # 10) ...and by Sor himself,Opus 6 #4.

These are all for the pros... well ... the con ... do not play flamenco scales with pi.
One of the way of playing scale passage faster that has fell in disfavor now a day is to employ slurs. The addition of slurs (well planed) in a passage can not only double it speed but can open up and broaden the phrasing horizon.


Murdick

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Oct 13, 2012, 10:06:38 AM10/13/12
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On Friday, October 12, 2012 7:03:42 PM UTC-5, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales. I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it. The obvious con involves bass notes.

John DeChiaro plays very fluent scales with Pi. Every fast Pi I've seen, however, uses the Shearer P stroke. This stroke follows through to 'i' and utilizes the wrist joint, the middle joint and the P tip joint together. (See my two videos.)

Andrew Schulman

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Oct 13, 2012, 12:49:25 PM10/13/12
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On Oct 12, 8:03 pm, "Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales. I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it. The obvious con involves bass notes.
>
Lots of situations to use it and I like it with bass notes too.
Depends on the situation if you use it or not.

Andrew

David Raleigh Arnold

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Oct 14, 2012, 7:53:13 PM10/14/12
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It has its uses. If it doesn't feel good,
you haven't practiced it enough. Regards, daveA

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Oct 15, 2012, 1:46:28 AM10/15/12
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On Friday, October 12, 2012 5:03:42 PM UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> Discuss the possible pros and cons of using p-i for scales. I've been trying it out and I like the feel of it. The obvious con involves bass notes.

Sometimes it's the perfect solution. LEE

Alphonsus Jr.

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Oct 15, 2012, 1:51:39 AM10/15/12
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I'm thinking of it as the default method. But as Miguel suggests, it feel like cheating.

Alphonsus Jr.

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Oct 15, 2012, 1:52:16 AM10/15/12
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Thanks!

Steve Freides

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Oct 15, 2012, 9:53:18 AM10/15/12
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P-i and more often, p-m get used on the banjo a lot. If you've never
listened to Bela Fleck, now's the time. The Flecktones are each
virtuosi in their own right, too - Victor Wooten on bass is better known
than Bela.

-S-


Cactus Wren

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Oct 16, 2012, 12:46:20 PM10/16/12
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Just to be clear, Jackson, I was joking. Playing well will feel like cheating to someone who can't currently play well. That's a pitfall of trying to build a Better Hand.


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