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Slogoin

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:20:17 AM9/29/12
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You're back! I've not been around much as I've been busy teaching. I
thought of you when I recorded this and how you were going to get a
good tremolo without a teacher when you first started writing in this
NG. I don't have the best tremolo but it's good enough for gigs and I
think any serious student can have one at least as good as mine in
less time than you have had since you started your CG quest. So...

http://www.larrydeack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/tremolo.mp3

Tommy Grand

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Sep 29, 2012, 11:23:35 AM9/29/12
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Is your post supposed to help Jackson? It seems you simply wish to
boast about your superior tremolo.

Murdick

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Sep 29, 2012, 11:51:55 AM9/29/12
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Do a video, I might be able to help. I've thought about it quite a bit.

Douglas Seth

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Sep 29, 2012, 12:10:03 PM9/29/12
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FYI, Philip Hii just did a 6 part series on developing tremolo on his
blog with some interesting insights on the subject.

Alphonsus Jr.

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Sep 29, 2012, 12:23:29 PM9/29/12
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Greetings Larry! Yes, I'm back. And I've gone back to the beginning, so doing tremolo will be down the road a ways. But many thanks for thinking of me.

Alphonsus Jr.

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Sep 29, 2012, 12:36:07 PM9/29/12
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On Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:10:04 AM UTC-7, Douglas Seth wrote:

> FYI, Philip Hii just did a 6 part series on developing tremolo on his
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> blog with some interesting insights on the subject.

I'd like to take a look but am having trouble finding this series. If you know where it is, please provide the link.

Cactus Wren

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Sep 29, 2012, 1:40:44 PM9/29/12
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Hard to hear that tremolo over the Giant open G pedal.

Welcome back, Larry. :)


On Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:20:17 AM UTC-7, Slogoin wrote:

dsi1

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Sep 29, 2012, 2:06:19 PM9/29/12
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The trouble with tremolo is that one is so focused on not galloping that
everything else pretty much gets trashed and you get a mechanical stiff
feel. OTOH, it is good enough for gigs. Folks just love that stuff. :-)

David Raleigh Arnold

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Sep 29, 2012, 2:46:09 PM9/29/12
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My tremolo study is much better, because it is written
to sound good at any andante tempo and it is very easy.
Of course you may not yet put it on youtube. Regards, daveA

http://www.openguitar.com/spannights.html

(has link)

Regards, daveA

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thomas

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Sep 29, 2012, 3:18:48 PM9/29/12
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Tremolo is a beginner/intermediate technique. You shouldn't wait too long.

Murdick

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Sep 29, 2012, 3:46:54 PM9/29/12
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I kind of liked DA's tremolo piece (not as good as mine, "Rebecca") but I jsut sold it to Larry for $10 who is going to perform and than record it. I'm posting it on all my lists.

dsi1

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Sep 29, 2012, 4:41:02 PM9/29/12
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On 9/29/2012 9:46 AM, Murdick wrote:
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> I kind of liked DA's tremolo piece (not as good as mine, "Rebecca") but I jsut sold it to Larry for $10 who is going to perform and than record it. I'm posting it on all my lists.
>

That don't look like too good of a deal for Larry. Ain't you supposed to
pay him $10 to record it for you?

Alphonsus Jr.

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Sep 29, 2012, 10:53:09 PM9/29/12
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Slogoin

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Sep 30, 2012, 9:54:10 AM9/30/12
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On Sep 29, 12:23 pm, "Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Greetings Larry! Yes, I'm back. And I've gone back to the beginning,
> so doing tremolo will be down the road a ways. But many thanks for thinking of me.

If you stick with it you can have a workable tremolo is less time
than the time since you started writing here. The bad news is there
are no short cuts, and that's good news! You can't cheat to get it nor
can you buy it but you own it like nothing you can buy. Of course this
idea is not new but the truth is that few will do the time and never
find what Hii talks about, how it is a feeling that can be used for
more than just tremolo.

A NYC Cgist visited the island a while back and asked how I did the
nice cross string trills. I asked if he could do a tremolo and he said
no. I said it would be trivial if his tremolo was good. He had a 4
year CG degree and was working on his masters in music education. What
I'm doing is what he wants to do but I think it was a bit of a shock
to find out what the reality of teaching here is like.

From what I have seen in intermediate CGists it seems that many
think they can think their way to a good tremolo and just do not know
how much work it is to find that feeling and sustain the effect then
use it for other things like trills.

In any case, I wish you well on your CG quest and I'm sure your CG
teacher is glad you are willing to do it right this time.

thomas

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Sep 30, 2012, 11:37:54 AM9/30/12
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On Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:54:10 AM UTC-4, Slogoin wrote:
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> I asked if he could do a tremolo and he said
> no. I said it would be trivial if his tremolo was good. He had a 4
> year CG degree and was working on his masters in music education.

Four years of CG in college and not even a rudimentary tremolo? Sounds like he over-partied his way through school and forgot to practice. Tremolo is not that hard to acquire. Perfecting tone, timing, and balance is the real challenge, but getting started with tremolo should be easy.

Douglas Seth

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Sep 30, 2012, 6:00:22 PM9/30/12
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On Sep 29, 10:53 pm, "Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Critique:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btGi67a1LWc

Russell is one of my favorite players. A true master of the art. No
one who posts here could ever be in a position to critique such an
extreme virtuoso/talents!

Douglas Seth

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Sep 30, 2012, 6:05:58 PM9/30/12
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The feeling of describe is a glimpse into virtuosity. The difference
is-virtuosos have it all the time. Anyone who has an undergrad degree
and can't do a competent tremolo was short changed by their teacher.
However, a good musical fundamental technique is far more important to
obtain than tremolo. I taught myself tremolo at 15.

Cactus Wren

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Sep 30, 2012, 7:20:03 PM9/30/12
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I taught it to myself, too, just through repetition, if I recall. I may have used Scott Tennant's stacatto approach. I just kept doing it over and over, until one day, it magically appeared. Didn't even need to make a blog about it!

Alphonsus Jr.

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Sep 30, 2012, 7:24:38 PM9/30/12
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Well done, grasshopper.

dsi1

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Oct 1, 2012, 5:39:38 AM10/1/12
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On 9/29/2012 4:53 PM, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> Critique:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btGi67a1LWc
>

I thought that the Barrios craze was way overblown and that tremolo is a
pretty cheesy effect but this is a heck of a piece. It has a higher
tasty note ratio than pretty much any piece that I've ever heard.
Remarkable!
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