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From: Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com>
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Subject: Re: Andrew, I thought of you when I listened to this
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:56:31 -0400
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On 10/9/2012 12:35 AM, Andrew Schulman wrote:
> On Oct 8, 11:44 pm, dewachen1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Fascinating account of a "card carrying reductive materialist" neurosurgeon's near death experience. As a result of his amazing experience he says the mind and consciousness are not a function of the physical brain. It has been established as a fact now that consciousness exists separate from the brain.
>>
>> All of you 1800 century atheists pay attention things just aren't as simple as you would like to believe.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYZoX4N5_YQ&feature=share
>>
>>
> Somebody else was just telling me about this.
>
> I think we may have also talked about this here as well:
>
> http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html
>
> I also read her book.  I will read Dr. Alexander's book as well.  I
> see his coma lasted 7 days, doesn't say whether it was medically
> induced or not on the website.  Mine was, they woke me on the 7th day.
>
> The coma "dreams" were unlike any dreams I've had before or since, I
> remember most if not all of them (aided by the fact that we started
> writing them down the day after I woke up).  But the views remain in
> my mind, it's like watching a DVD.
>
> Funny thing is that I never thought of the mind and consciousness as a
> function of the physical brain. BTW, music was a big part of my coma
> travel.
>
> Thanks for posting this.  It will be fun to see how this thread
> devolves in just a few more posts!
>
> Andrew
>
>
>


	Sure, I'll bite.
	There are plenty of people I know personally (and a couple in this 
newsgroup) for whom I have no trouble at all imagining that their 
consciousness exists totally divorced from their brains.

How's that?
Steve

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