Received: by 10.224.220.12 with SMTP id hw12mr2309881qab.8.1348060598211;
        Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:16:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.236.75.3 with SMTP id y3mr540454yhd.20.1348060598174; Wed, 19
 Sep 2012 06:16:38 -0700 (PDT)
Path: t12ni22361614qak.0!nntp.google.com!i6no33993qas.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:16:38 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <08e9e5cf-0afb-44f9-a3c6-0702915e322e@googlegroups.com>
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.85.217.192;
 posting-account=doPUggoAAAAgWmZlXooUctFk2n10U-QR
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.85.217.192
References: <210985d4-49c5-4080-ba7e-70e8ed866205@n9g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
 <46d07cdc-f39c-404d-a48c-2adc366ca045@googlegroups.com> <85afc90d-c4a9-47b0-9c0e-a8b8dc044ae0@googlegroups.com>
 <5ba0dac2-83fe-4564-bfbd-1399bf5b8cef@googlegroups.com> <dc55ae26-bf65-4215-9a68-42f2cb5f44af@googlegroups.com>
 <3c931eda-df06-46a6-8cff-0f58d505c4f4@googlegroups.com> <eda19acb-8385-4be6-9a44-a8a8a3f6f8ac@googlegroups.com>
 <ceb98a73-7591-432d-95be-1cc920f01397@googlegroups.com> <08e9e5cf-0afb-44f9-a3c6-0702915e322e@googlegroups.com>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <db605b00-5e1f-4859-8485-95fe81f090d7@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New Blog Post-Seating Position
From: Murdick <lutem...@aol.com>
Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:16:38 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:20:09 PM UTC-5, Cactus Wren wrote:
> Somehow, I don't think your history lesson is going to change Kent's view=
 of folk music. =20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Grisha mentioned on the flamenco forum that he couldn't quite get Conde's=
 speed, but close!  Interestingly, over there they had compared Conde's pos=
ition to Grisha's (and Sabicas'), as opposed to Paco's.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:51:26 AM UTC-7, Richard Jernigan wrote:
>=20
> > On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:42:58 AM UTC-5, Richard Jernigan wrote=
:
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > On Monday, September 17, 2012 3:02:23 PM UTC-5, Murdick wrote:
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > On Monday, September 17, 2012 12:54:46 PM UTC-5, Cactus Wren wrote:
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > Kent,
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > please see this video, around 4:50 and then go back to your sax p=
laying.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&v=3DfqwOqW=
vqnlw#!
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > On Monday, September 17, 2012 9:01:48 AM UTC-7, Murdick wrote:
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:08:42 PM UTC-5, JPD wrote:
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:36:02 PM UTC-7, Murdick wrote=
:
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > > Ahh, the joys of basic research.=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > I've been doing some basic research on i-m alternation with a=
 cool camera that captures 1,000 frames per second. Not very expensive, eit=
her, for such a video camera. Got it new from Japan through eBay.=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > What I'm watching in particular are the differences between i=
 and m. My m is fantastic. I'm trying to get it to teach my i. But they are=
 very different fingers. In particular, i at rest is much more extended tha=
n m at rest. In Arpeggios, I think my i would be happier playing one string=
 higher than m, rather than lower, frankly.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > The problem at the moment is that, compared with m, i has to =
flex several degrees tighter (away from midrange) in order to play the next=
-lower string in an arpeggio. In a fast, continuous arpeggio, this encourag=
es i to accumulate tension. It has to do more flexing than m to hit the str=
ing, and it tends to want to *stay* flexed. Mine does, anyway. m is much mo=
re relaxed, doing all of its work cloer to midrange.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > The same goes for i-m alternation on a single string. i hardl=
y has time to return to midrange before it has to turn around and flex agai=
n. The only way to get it to relax all the way out to midrange is to greatl=
y overshoot the string on return.=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > I'm guessing that when I was decades younger and a hot player=
, my i was conditioned to be more relaxed in a more flexed position. (Shear=
er's "prepared" position.) Nowadays, when my i returns to the prepared posi=
tion, it's not relaxed at all. I have to extend it quite a bit farther to g=
et to its relaxed midrange. So it's way out of position, or so it feels.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > I was looking at some slo-mo video of an older Yamashita the =
other day. He was playing blazing fast i-m alternation, and I noticed he wa=
s really overshooting the return with i. Taking a BIG swing with i, compare=
d with m. "Swinging from the heels," as they say in baseball. I wonder if t=
hat's something he developed as he got older.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > > Anyway, it's interesting fooling around with this slo-mo vide=
o cam. Basic research.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > > > Ok, you will be on my list of people to send a video to. It cou=
ld be that a problem with 'm' affects 'i'.  That is due to 'm''s lack of in=
dependence from 'i', tension builds and both fingers begin to lose coordina=
tion. Even though my 'i' has good independence 'm', as I speed up, the whol=
e im complex tenses up and 'i' starts getting quirky.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > Cactus says, "Kent,
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > please see this video, around 4:50 and then go back to your sax pla=
ying."
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > A) he's playing folk music
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > Javier is playing a piece by Agustin Castellon Campos "Sabicas" a sop=
histicated composer, though probably technically illiterate in music. Sabic=
as claimed he did not read or write musical notation, though for someone of=
 his talent, this was unnecessary to develop beautifully balanced compositi=
ons of several minutes length.=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > Javier has copped the piece off a recording, pretty accurately. The r=
ecording is just a snapshot of Sabicas's continually evolving compositions =
in this genre, known as sole=E1. There are a multitude of sub-genres of sol=
e=E1. Sabicas was proficient in all of them as an accompanist of dancers, o=
f singers, and as a soloist. This is not :folk music in the sense of simple=
 stuff handed down over generations. It is a sophisticated composition by a=
 master, but Sabicas never played a piece the same way twice. It was always=
 evolving.=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >  Javier, good as he is, doesn't convey the nuances of Sabicas's playi=
ng.=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > B) he may (or may not) be tearing himself up.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > Whether Javier is tearing himself up remains to be seen. His techniqu=
e differs a bit from Sabicas, who remained a virtuoso player into his late =
seventies. Javier's i-m technique is a little more like Paco de Lucia's tha=
n Sabicas's. Paco is 65 and still smokin'.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > > Now I will go back to my saxophone, which is getting better, BTW.He=
re's an
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > Here's another dose of flamenco from Grisha Goryachev, a graduate of =
the New England Conservatory and student of Eliot Fisk. But he was playing =
concerts with his father in Russia when he was 12, or maybe younger, alread=
y with that machine-gun i-m speed.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > This is a piece by Paco de Lucia. It is more like jazz than Sabicas's=
 through-composed stuff--a sequence of variations on a chord progression an=
d metric pattern.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgMCak0-0WNw&feature=3Dplayer_embedde=
d
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > > RNJ
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > We saw Grisha at an Austin Classical Guitar Society concert at a privat=
e house Saturday night, with an audience of about 65. He and jeremy Mouffe =
played both flamenco and classical and brought the house down, with two sta=
nding ovations.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > When we talked to Grisha afterwards he said he wasn't feeling particula=
rly well. He had his doubts about the performance, but once he got into it =
he forgot about having the flu. Technically he was as good as the video, bu=
t for a live audience there was more expression and passion.
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > RNJ

Speed has (almost) nothing to do with seating , at least in the short term.=
  We learn to hold our instruments in a advantageous position in order to f=
acilitate learning and to keep the human machine working throughout our=20
lives.