Got my Swine Flu Vaccination Yesterday!
Andrew Schulman
yesterday to actor and musician union members. I enjoyed waiting in
line (for 50 minutes); there were 60 people ahead of me, and some
dazzlingly beautiful actresses were in line. Oh gosh, that was SUCH a
sexist comment!
The doctor asked if I'd ever had a flu shot before, which I hadn't,
and told me that I had a 25% chance of getting a reaction of flu-like
symptoms which would last a day - I had the vaccination at 2:30PM and
he said if a reaction happened it would start around 6PM. Also, the
area around the shot might feel sore for a day. Once you've had your
first shot the chances of a negative reaction drop to 1%.
The sheet we all had to fill out also gave some information about the
vaccination, risks, etc., and mentioned the problems of the 1976
vaccinations, and how there haven't been any problems of that type
since then.
In any case, I had no symptoms at all and no soreness. I'm glad I got
the vaccination, and will get the regular flu vaccination next week.
Glad I don't have to worry about getting swine flu.
Andrew
AMAdOTAbAM
wrote:
Do you work for the pharmaceutical industry! Sell your poison
somewhere else! Everyone who is thinking of getting the shot watch
this!
http://www.breitbart.tv/26-year-old-woman-disabled-by-flu-shot-reaction/
dofrenzy
> Do you work for the pharmaceutical industry! Sell your poison
> somewhere else! Everyone who is thinking of getting the shot watch
> this!http://www.breitbart.tv/26-year-old-woman-disabled-by-flu-shot-reaction/
I think it is a shame that the girl in that video didn't die.
Tashi
You don't like women do you?
Tashi
wrote:
I'll pray you don't come down with anything! That Cheerleader was
fine for the first two or three weeks.
Wollybird
>
> - Show quoted text -
In other words, the shot had nothing to do with it. Meanwhile, it's
only October, and 1000 people have died from swine flu.
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wrong, the video clearly states that the DOCTORS AT JOHN HOPKINS SAID
THE SHOT CAUSED IT! Believe the hype. Get your shot. There are many
other side effects that are not reported. I personally know someone
who has had face drooping and ANAL leakage from the vaccine! 30,000
people die from regular flu every year! This is no different! Unless
you have a compromised immune system. DON"T GET THE SHOT! I'd rather
be sick for a week than end up like that girl! Now if Ebola was
running rampid, I might raisk it! But, this is just big medicine
making money!
Wollybird
>
> - Show quoted text -
Anal leakage? and mike said he didn't get the shot.
Andrew Schulman
> I'll pray you don't come down with anything! That Cheerleader was
> fine for the first two or three weeks.
>
>
they would (and did) pray for me and I encouraged them to do so,
gratefully. Certainly didn't hurt, and knowing people are rooting for
you always helps, boosts your energy.
Andrew
dofrenzy
wrote:
Food for thought:
"...and patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate
of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps
because of the expectations the prayers created, the researchers
suggested."
Wollybird
Probably because the people doing the praying are a pain in the rear
edspyhill01
wrote:
I got my standard flu shot yesterday. I've been getting them every
year for the past 10 years. I was born prior to 1950 so the 1918 flu
antibodies protects me from the swine flu, supposedly.
Andrew Schulman
> Food for thought:
>
> "...and patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate
> of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps
> because of the expectations the prayers created, the researchers
> suggested."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html
>
>
Andrew
Tashi
You don't like women do you?
AMAdOTAbAM
wrote:
So you will believe that study, but not an actual person shaking who
is now brain dead from the flu vaccine. Wow!! You reject reality and
substitute it for your own. You are one of those guys who will only
recognize things that further your agenda! Reality is hard to accept
sometimes!
dofrenzy
>
> So you will believe that study, but not an actual person shaking who
> is now brain dead from the flu vaccine. Wow!! You reject reality and
> substitute it for your own. You are one of those guys who will only
> recognize things that further your agenda! Reality is hard to accept
> sometimes!
Never said I believed it. Just offering it as "food for thought".
Your response in fact shows that YOU are the one who substituted the
FALSE reality that I believe the conclusions of the article when in
fact and IN REALITY, I offered the article, as I said: "Food for
thought".
Further my "agenda"?!?! LOL. I mean, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Now you've
gone and substituted your fanciful imaginings for reality. You are
a very silly person, like a clown.
AMAdOTAbAM
That's your comeback! Personal insults? Wow, you weren't the on the
debate in highschool were you?
dofrenzy
>
> That's your comeback! Personal insults? Wow, you weren't the on the
> debate in highschool were you?
Whoa, wait a minute. It is occurring to me now that you are Tashi!
This discussion goes against my own personal Tashi boycott. Goodbye
Bozo.
Wollybird
kinda does have the same crookedy thought process, comprehension
skills etc., doesn't he?
doug
where did you read that, I would like to read it.
dofrenzy
Yep......seems to spend a bit more time on spelling though.
edspyhill01
>
> - Show quoted text -
It was on a news show. Here is one link to the CDC about the 1918 flu
and how the 1957 H2N2 flu anf today's H1N1 flu strains are related.
Tashi
I'm flattered, but I don't have the interest, nor time to carry on
as a sock puppet.
Steve Freides
news:793cc0a5-24ef-4dfa...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> The Actors Fund here in NY made swine flu vaccinations available
> yesterday to actor and musician union members. I enjoyed waiting in
> line (for 50 minutes); there were 60 people ahead of me, and some
> dazzlingly beautiful actresses were in line. Oh gosh, that was SUCH a
> sexist comment!
>
> The doctor asked if I'd ever had a flu shot before, which I hadn't,
> and told me that I had a 25% chance of getting a reaction of flu-like
> symptoms which would last a day - I had the vaccination at 2:30PM and
> he said if a reaction happened it would start around 6PM. Also, the
> area around the shot might feel sore for a day. Once you've had your
> first shot the chances of a negative reaction drop to 1%.
My doctor recommended I stop getting a flu shot because, every year for
several years running, getting the flu shot caused me to feel like I had
the flu for several weeks afterwards. My wife and both kids get the
shots, though.
> The sheet we all had to fill out also gave some information about the
> vaccination, risks, etc., and mentioned the problems of the 1976
> vaccinations, and how there haven't been any problems of that type
> since then.
>
> In any case, I had no symptoms at all and no soreness. I'm glad I got
> the vaccination, and will get the regular flu vaccination next week.
> Glad I don't have to worry about getting swine flu.
>
> Andrew
The r.m.c.g. recommended strategy for immunizing one's self to the H1N1
flu: eat bacon.
-S-
Andrew Schulman
> "Andrew Schulman" <and...@abacaproductions.com> wrote in message
>
> news:793cc0a5-24ef-4dfa...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The Actors Fund here in NY made swine flu vaccinations available
> > yesterday to actor and musician union members. I enjoyed waiting in
> > line (for 50 minutes); there were 60 people ahead of me, and some
> > dazzlingly beautiful actresses were in line. Oh gosh, that was SUCH a
> > sexist comment!
>
> > The doctor asked if I'd ever had a flu shot before, which I hadn't,
> > and told me that I had a 25% chance of getting a reaction of flu-like
> > symptoms which would last a day - I had the vaccination at 2:30PM and
> > he said if a reaction happened it would start around 6PM. Also, the
> > area around the shot might feel sore for a day. Once you've had your
> > first shot the chances of a negative reaction drop to 1%.
>
> My doctor recommended I stop getting a flu shot because, every year for
> several years running, getting the flu shot caused me to feel like I had
> the flu for several weeks afterwards. My wife and both kids get the
> shots, though.
>
>
blood spitting, double vision, and fainting spells.
>
>
> The r.m.c.g. recommended strategy for immunizing one's self to the H1N1
> flu: eat bacon.
>
>
Andrew
AMAdOTAbAM
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Here you go!! Quick, run and get your poison, Urr, I mean vaccine!!
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQG5Q4GWw2o&feature=player_embedded#
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
Mecury shake. YUMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0&feature=related
You guys are dumb fucks! Standing in line for an hour to get poison
shot in you! WOW!
Tashi
Excellent Excellent Excellent! One of the only true politicians left,
in this age of big phrama corruption. The people that believe the
bogus CDC research should have the mark of the beast tattooed on their
foreheads so the rest of us can steer clear.
Tashi
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You guys are dumb fucks! Standing in line for an hour to get poison
> shot in you! WOW!
Thanks AMAd, Americans can't tell if they are heathy or not, so it
doesn't much matter. Years of getting vaccinations have turned this
country into sheeple. Their all running down the streets to get their
flu shots!
I noticed that Wollybird shortly after receiving his flu shot, lost
his reading comprehensions skills, he's so far gone though, he'll
never make the connection.
Andrew Schulman
> Excellent Excellent Excellent! One of the only true politicians left,
> in this age of big phrama corruption. The people that believe the
> bogus CDC research should have the mark of the beast tattooed on their
> foreheads so the rest of us can steer clear.
>
>
in such a similar way, as if you were the same person!
Andrew
AMAdOTAbAM
wrote:
Well, for the record I am not Tashi. Is this an attempt to direct
people away from the vids?
Andrew Schulman
> Well, for the record I am not Tashi. Is this an attempt to direct
> people away from the vids?
>
>
Andrew
AMAdOTAbAM
wrote:
I am not Tashi!! So FUCKOFF!!!
dsi1
>
> Here you go!! Quick, run and get your poison, Urr, I mean vaccine!!
> NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQG5Q4GWw2o&feature=player_embedded#
Thank heavens! A Kennedy for the rest of youse guys. Congrats!!!
Tashi
You guys are all the same, attack the messenger, and remain oblivious
of the content...... it's really a mental illness with you freaks!
Tashi
Ha Ha, talk about a conspiracy theory!
Tashi
wrote:
Your wrong on this one Andrew...... sorry man!
Andrew Schulman
> Your wrong on this one Andrew...... sorry man!
>
>
Andrew
Richard Yates
Vocabulary is about the same, but Tashi hasn't yet resorted to ALL CAPS.
Quick, how do spell 'conspiracy'?
Wollybird
Maybe we should call him "mini mike"
dsi1
Wadda ya bitching about this time? What I said is true ain't it? I think
it's great that there's a Kennedy that you can finally trust. What's the
problem?
Maybe one day there'll be an Obama all ya'all can trust. No doubt he
will show you his birth certificate. Unfortunately, I think he gonna be
the anti-christ. That's the breaks.
How's that Hg diet going? :-)
Tashi
I'm walking on eggs now. Spelling corrections are always an
indicator of a very small, impotent General Pumpernickel.
Tashi, the General in charge.......
RoyIII
> On Oct 29, 1:31 pm, Wollybird <wollyb...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 12:13 pm, Tashi <dewachen1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 29, 10:33 am, Andrew Schulman <and...@abacaproductions.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > The Actors Fund here in NY made swine flu vaccinations available
> > > > yesterday to actor and musician union members. I enjoyed waiting in
> > > > line (for 50 minutes); there were 60 people ahead of me, and some
> > > > dazzlingly beautiful actresses were in line. Oh gosh, that was SUCH a
> > > > sexist comment!
>
> > > > The doctor asked if I'd ever had a flu shot before, which I hadn't,
> > > > and told me that I had a 25% chance of getting a reaction of flu-like
> > > > symptoms which would last a day - I had the vaccination at 2:30PM and
> > > > he said if a reaction happened it would start around 6PM. Also, the
> > > > area around the shot might feel sore for a day. Once you've had your
> > > > first shot the chances of a negative reaction drop to 1%.
>
> > > > vaccination, risks, etc., and mentioned the problems of the 1976
> > > > vaccinations, and how there haven't been any problems of that type
> > > > since then.
>
> > > > In any case, I had no symptoms at all and no soreness. I'm glad I got
> > > > the vaccination, and will get the regular flu vaccination next week.
> > > > Glad I don't have to worry about getting swine flu.
>
> > > > Andrew
>
> > > fine for the first two or three weeks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > only October, and 1000 people have died from swine flu.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> THE SHOT CAUSED IT! Believe the hype. Get your shot. There are many
> other side effects that are not reported. I personally know someone
> who has had face drooping and ANAL leakage from the vaccine! 30,000
> people die from regular flu every year! This is no different! Unless
> you have a compromised immune system. DON"T GET THE SHOT! I'd rather
> be sick for a week than end up like that girl! Now if Ebola was
> running rampid, I might raisk it! But, this is just big medicine
> making money!
ANAL leakage and face drooping occurs when you see the size of the
needle the Dr is about to
plunge into your arm!
RoyIII
AMAdOTAbAM
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Page three on this site! http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM182401.pdf
5 mL multi-dose vial containing ten doses. Thimerosal, a mercury
derivative, is added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5
mcg of mercury. That's over 46 times the amount that's in fish! And
it's injected directly into your blood stream!
Albacore tuna has 0.35mcg of mercury per 170 grams (6 ounces).
http://www.purehealthmd.com/nutrition/healthy-eating/eating-well/fish-and-mercury
So enjoy your poison!
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> 5 mL multi-dose vial containing ten doses. Thimerosal, a mercury
> derivative, is added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5
> mcg of mercury. That's over 46 times the amount that's in fish! And
> it's injected directly into your blood stream!
>
>
> So enjoy your poison!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Here are the chemicals in the single and double dose that gets you in
the end! polymyxin B neomycin sulfate Look them up yourself! I don't
understand why people don't do research on what they put into their
body!
SYSTEMIC ABSORPTION OF NEOMYCIN OCCURS FOLLOWING INJECTED
ADMINISTRATION AND TOXIC REACTIONS MAY OCCUR. Patients treated with
neomycin should be under close clinical observation because of the
potential toxicity associated with their use. NEUROTOXICITY (INCLUDING
OTOTOXICITY) AND NEPHROTOXICITY FOLLOWING THE INJECTED USE OF NEOMYCIN
SULFATE HAVE BEEN REPORTED, EVEN WHEN USED IN RECOMMENDED DOSES. THE
POTENTIAL FOR NEPHROTOXICITY, PERMANENT BILATERAL AUDITORY OTOTOXICITY
AND SOMETIMES VESTIBULAR TOXICITY IS PRESENT IN PATIENTS WITH NORMAL
RENAL FUNCTION WHEN TREATED WITH HIGHER DOSES OF NEOMYCIN AND/OR FOR
LONGER PERIODS THAN RECOMMENDED. Serial, vestibular and audiometric
tests, as well as tests of renal function, should be performed
(especially in highrisk patients). THE RISK OF NEPHROTOXICITY AND
OTOTOXICITY IS GREATER IN PATIENTS WITH IMPAIRED RENAL FUNCTION.
Ototoxicity is often delayed in onset and patients developing cochlear
damage will not have symptoms during therapy to warn them of
developing eighth nerve destruction and total or partial deafness may
occur long after neomycin has been discontinued.
Neuromuscular blockage and respiratory paralysis have been reported
following the oral use of neomycin. The possibility of the occurrence
of neuromuscular blockage and respiratory paralysis should be
considered if neomycin is administered, especially to patients
receiving anesthetics, neuromuscular blocking agents such as
tubocurarine, succinylcholine, decamethonium, or in patients receiving
massive transfusions of citrate anticoagulated blood. If blockage
occurs, calcium salts may reverse these phenomena but mechanical
respiratory assistance may be necessary.
Concurrent and/or sequential systemic, oral or topical use of other
aminoglycosides, including paromomycin and other potentially
nephrotoxic and/or neurotoxic drugs such as bacitracin, cisplatin,
vancomycin, amphotericin B, polymyxin B, colistin and viomycin, should
be avoided because the toxicity may be additive.
Other factors which increase the risk of toxicity are advanced age and
dehydration.
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
You all are gonna end up sterile. Which is probably a plus that the
vaccine offers!
Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has
been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or for
impairment of fertility.
RoyIII
> On Nov 4, 12:35 pm, AMAdOTAbAM <sorgui...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear MadAtObama,
does this still mean ANAL leakage and a droopy face.
I can put up with Neuromuscular blockage and respiratory paralysis,
but ANAL leakage
and a droopy face. Christ!
RoyIII
AMAdOTAbAM
That's on top of the Droopy face and anal leakage!!! But, go ahead,
you guys no everything and trust the big pharms!!
John LaCroix
>
> 5 mL multi-dose vial containing ten doses. Thimerosal, a mercury
> derivative, is added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5
> mcg of mercury. That's over 46 times the amount that's in fish! And
> it's injected directly into your blood stream!
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Don't worry - Its probably 'purified mercury' so it won't hurt you.
Wollybird
then don't take tha placebo stuff. You're half again as likely to get
the squirts, according to that CSL insert. BTW isn't CSL big
pharma.......... should i trust this. I'm so confused.
Tashi
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest... La la la
la la la la.......... in the clearing stands a boxer, a fighter by his
trade, and he carries the reminder, of every glove that laid him down,
or cut him till he cried out in his anger and his pain....... I'm
taking my flu shot!
Tashi
John you are a lying sack of poop!
RoyIII
I love Elvis.
Did u buy the whole lyrics series?
RoyIII
Wollybird
>
> - Show quoted text -
yep. pretty obvious
Alain Reiher
"Tashi" <dewach...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:90b42551-9f1f-40d6...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
===========Tashi,============
I think we are immune now.
Alain
Wollybird
> "Tashi" <dewachen1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
unless you took NEOMYCIN that Mini Mike was going on about. Then you
might have a sack of poop. But that's to be expected.
Tashi
Getting your info. from Wiki now are we? You and Larry should get a
room, bring Clinger along just for fun. Bottom line _Aspartine for
Brains_ this swine flu vaccine is a lethal cocktail, the more
cocktails you inject, combined, with GMO foods, Mad cow disease, (Cows
who eat their own, second only to classical guitarists) Chickens with
cancerous tumors, (Yummy). fluoridated water, fertilizers, red dye #2,
environmental pollutants, not to mention all the other pharmaceutical
drugs they advertise on TV, you either live a short life, or end up
not being able to remember your own name, nor the names of those you
live with.
You make the bed you sleep in, sweet dreams!
John LaCroix
>
> - Show quoted text -
Boy, your not really keen on picking up on sarcasm. On the serious
side, I have had both my seasonal and H1N1 flu shots. My wife tells me
the hospital here has cases with people intubated, just like on TV.
This is not something to be fooled with.
John LaCroix
>
> - Show quoted text -
Tell us what you are eating these days to avoid these horrors.
Andrew Schulman
> this swine flu vaccine is a lethal cocktail...
>
>
Oh, so I guess that means that I and the other 300 actors and
musicians that got the vaccination last week are dead! Cool, means I
died twice this year!
Andrew
Andrew Schulman
> My wife tells me the hospital here has cases with people intubated, just like on TV.
> This is not something to be fooled with.
>
>
Andrew
AMAdOTAbAM
wrote:
> On Nov 5, 11:00 am, John LaCroix <john.l.lacr...@gmail.com> wrote:> My wife tells me the hospital here has cases with people intubated, just like on TV.
> > This is not something to be fooled with.
>
> Yes, being intubated is not loads of fun!
>
protected! Thank you for showing me the light! I mean I am the only
one showing CONCRETE evidence, but your words have convinced me that I
was wrong! Thank you! You have probably saved my life! I am in no way
worried about the long term effects now! Oh thank you great and
magnificant wise one! I mean they would never ever lie to us to make
money!
Andrew Schulman
> Thank you! You have probably saved my life!
>
>
Andrew
Wollybird
Mike, unfortunately you and Mini Mike are piss poor poster boys for
the benefits of living "the clean life" according to the book of
Howard Hughes.
Andrew Schulman
> side, I have had both my seasonal and H1N1 flu shots. My wife tells me
> the hospital here has cases with people intubated, just like on TV.
> This is not something to be fooled with.
>
>
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/05/h1n1.flu.who.global/
Andrew
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
You have convinced me! What more do you want! I hope they will shoot
two into me! I can wait! Oh happy days! I mean there are only several
TOXIC ingredients listed on the insert, but I am sure it is safe! I
mean I could die!!!! Die of the FLU!!! Oh thank you great wise ones!
You have won the argument! The next round of vaccines are on me! SUCK
MY ASSHOLE!
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wow there are more people in the hospital! I agree, get your shot
quick before they run OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my God I hope they
have some left!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT WE ARe ALL
FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I loved to see how many of those people in the hospital actually took
the vaccine?
AMAdOTAbAM
> I loved to see how many of those people in the hospital actually took
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wow, I combined the word love and would! Now that is probably because
I haven't yet received my vaccine!
Wollybird
No thank you. You must have pretty bad anal ooze after having two shots
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrIM2hwrLoc More lies!
AMAdOTAbAM
Tashi
Glad to see this on the mainstream corporate news! Quite frankly
AMAd, this is a free country, and people can decide for themselves
what to eat, drink, inject etc. If Wolli, and Andrew, are rushing
down the street to shoot themselves up with poison, then let them do
it. At this point there is little use trying to preserve what little
they have left of their brains, and neurological functions, I doubt
they would even notice the difference if they suffered any brian
damage.
My only concern at this point is for my family, and my self, not to
be forced into have this vaccination, by the world health
organization. As for those who's immune systems are shot, and feel
they are better served by getting their yearly double helpings of
thimerosal, have at it! Look on the bright side, maybe the
unemployment rate will start to decline.
AMAdOTAbAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are wrong Tashi! We need to hurry and get our vaccine before it is
too late!!!!!!!!! The great ones have deemed it so! They know! John's
wife said so! Maybe the mercury is what makes it work so good!
John LaCroix
Boy, by your grammer and gradious, condencending prose you do sound
like our friend MT. Maybe the two of you partners in the same therapy
group?
My wife is a physician, and I'm afraid I will have to take her
judgement over your so called 'concrete' evidence. Joke all you want.
In all likelyhood you won't get sick, but if you do report back on the
effectiveness of your evidence.
John L.
Tashi
John if you want to play Doctor, I can do that too! My sister, and
brother in law, both are MD's graduated from Johns Hopkins, My sister
even dated Jonas Salk's son when she was in med school. They advised
me against this poison.
And if you really want to play doctor, I'll find a doctor who
advises not to take the swine flu shot for every one you come up
with, yes we can play this game.
dsi1
> Boy, your not really keen on picking up on sarcasm. On the serious
> side, I have had both my seasonal and H1N1 flu shots. My wife tells me
> the hospital here has cases with people intubated, just like on TV.
> This is not something to be fooled with.
I read in another NG that a unnamed hospital has over 40 beds filled
with these cases in intensive care, 14 of those patients are on
ventilators. Frankly, I don't believe this, but your wife might have
some feeling as to whether this could be true. I know that this is
killing kids at an alarming rate but is it possible that we're not being
told about the true scope of this problem?
Wollybird
>
> - Show quoted text -
yes, and my father is Bones McCoy
let's see what Andrew Pekosz
Associate professor of molecular microbiology and immunology at Johns
Hopkins University has to say:
Alexandria, Va.: I'm annoyed at a friend who told her child who then
told my children that the vaccine was dangerous to children and
pregnant women. I feel not getting vaccinated is socially
irresponsible. What is your opinion on the proper response?
Andrew Pekosz: This is important...I've answered this before but I'll
answer it again because it is important. The vaccine, either the
seasonal or 2009 H1N1, is not dangerous to children or pregnant women.
The risk of severe disease or death from 2009 H1N1 infection is
greater than any risk identified from the vaccine. There are always
some number of people who have side or adverse effects from vaccines
or any other medical procedure. For influenza vaccines, these are
limited to some pain and swelling in the arm you get the injectable
vaccine or some sniffles/runny nose symptoms within 2 days of getting
the nasal spray.
Gee same as the Mayo Clinic.
You can find a kook or two in any profession, but there is no
disagreement in the medical profession about this
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/10/21/DI2009102102470.html
John LaCroix
>
>
What does you sister and brother in law think about your ingestion of
Hg? Yes, you can find plenty of doctors both for and against getting
the shot. I get it - you a bug up your ass when it comes to western
medicine, the government of the united states, and anything that you
determine goes against your personal vision of justice, reality or
morality and feel the need to regurgitate it over and over again.
Whatever.
John LaCroix
Last spring she told me that it was hitting South America pretty hard.
The thing about it now is that alot of people are getting sick, and
flu season hasn't even started yet. I know she gets alot of alert type
email from the CDC/etc. and has been paying close attention to it.
People I work with have been dropping like flies - several have been
out 1-2 weeks due to flu. As to the true scope of the problem, I don't
know how much more you can tell people. Having lines of people waiting
for vaccine and getting turned away due to shortages doesn't help
things. I worry most for my Daughter who is in school in Des Moines -
she hasn't been vaccinated and she is living is a dorm. She will have
to wait until Christmas break for hers.
John L.
Tashi
The statistics prove him wrong! The man should be fired........ He
also should change his wording. People don't just get "side effects"
they get a cumulative blow to their systems, which if don't manifest
as Gullien barre syndrome, will manifest as other chronic health
problems.
But Shit for Brians by all means believe whatever the paid lobbyists
tell the congress, Senate, CDC, and they tell the Universities.
It is just common sense that if you inject yourself directly into
the blood stream with Thermisol (mercury) you will suffer the
consequences. Especially young children with developing brains.
BTW, Shit for brains, any evidence that this NIHI vaccine is even
effective?
Wollybird
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John, Mike's sister occupies the same realm that his scientist friend
does. Mike is afraid the UN helicopters are going to thow a net over
him and force innoculate him. That someone is going to throw an net
over him is a distinct possibility, but it won't be the UN.
Thames family picnic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRFPf0dgfSg&feature=player_embedded#
Steven Bornfeld
We are now getting shortages of seasonal flu vaccine because production
capacity has been diverted to H1N1. My internist doesn't even know when
he's getting the injectable H1N1.
There is not high disease activity in NY at this time, but I figure
it's just a matter of time.
Steve
Wollybird
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There is not one study that supports a single thing you've said
dsi1
This could be a flu that goes down in history but I suppose we won't
know until we get the stats on this. I don't have too much of a problem
with folks that are afraid of the vaccine - there is a shortage after
all. God help us all.
John LaCroix
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Wollybird
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personally, I don't care whether some people are immunized or not. The
500 pound gorilla is what happens if hospital emergency rooms are full
up with knuckle heads in February, and your kid develops appendicitis.
Will they put Mike and Mini Mike out on the sidewalk?
dsi1
> personally, I don't care whether some people are immunized or not. The
> 500 pound gorilla is what happens if hospital emergency rooms are full
> up with knuckle heads in February, and your kid develops appendicitis.
> Will they put Mike and Mini Mike out on the sidewalk?
That's some gorilla! It may be that some hard decisions will have to be
made. For me, the decision would be relatively easy, I'd pick your kids
or my daughter first over some old fart guitar players. :-)
Andrew Schulman
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> We are now getting shortages of seasonal flu vaccine because production
> capacity has been diverted to H1N1. My internist doesn't even know when
> he's getting the injectable H1N1.
> There is not high disease activity in NY at this time, but I figure
> it's just a matter of time.
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regular doctor or two specialists I have been going to since my
surgery. Just lucky that the Actors Fund/Musicians Union has had a
decent supply of both for union members, already got the H1N1
vaccination and getting the seasonal one next week.
BTW, zero side affects from the H1N1 vaccination I got last week. Not
even a swelling on the arm.
Andrew
AMAdOTAbAM
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Take your damn vaccine! Suck my Asshole!
Richard Yates
I am not a doctor, but I do not think that would actually transfer any
immunity to you.
Tashi
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Consider yourself one of the lucky ones! Some people live to a
hundred, and smoked their entire life.
Tashi
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I don't see any one sick out here either. I think is all hype, but
that's just me.
Tashi
Oh now, there are plenty of them I Linked them before to you, but it
does no good. I don't feel like going on a wild google goose chase to
prove my point to a "mercury fried shit for brains Bankster".
Wollybird
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No you haven't posted any, and you apparently don't know what the word
means. Anecdotes from Coast to Coast and Alex Jones are not studies. .
They are ancedodes ment to sell soap to morons.
You ingest more mercury in one day than I do in five years, btw, but I
don't think that accounts for your inability to think.
Tashi
Shit for Bankster Brians, I heard the more shots you take the better
you feel, I'm no longer arguing with you! Shoot your sorry ass up, I
don't give a rats ass.
AMAdOTAbAM
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Eating mecury and injecting it straight into your bloodstream are two
different things!
AMAdOTAbAM
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Not in adults: In a review of 48 reports including more than 66,000
adults, “Vaccination of healthy adults only reduced risk of influenza
by 1% and reduced the number of missed work days by less than one
day (0.16) days. It did not change the number of people needing to go
to hospital or take time off work.” Reference: “Vaccines for
preventing
influenza in healthy adults." The Cochrane Database of Systematic
Reviews.
1(2006).
Not in the Elderly: In a review of 64 studies in 98 flu seasons, For
elderly living in nursing homes, flu shots were non-significant for
preventing the flu. For elderly living in the community, vaccines were
not (significantly) effective against influenza, ILI or pneumonia.
Reference: “Vaccines for preventing influenza in the elderly.” The
Cochrane
Database of Systematic Reviews. 3(2006).
AMAdOTAbAM
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Under the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, VAERS (Vaccine
Adverse Reporting System) was established. Annually, it reports about
11,000 serious vaccine reactions, including up to 200 deaths and many
more permanent disabilities.
Far more alarming is the following;
– the FDA estimates that only 1% of serious adverse reactions are
reported;
– CDC says it’s 10%;
– medical school students testified before Congress that they’re told
not to report these incidents;
– according to the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), only
one in 40 New York doctors reported adverse vaccine reactions or
deaths;
– international studies show vaccines cause up to 10,000 US SIDS
(Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) deaths annually, and at least half of
them are from vaccines;
– another study determined that 3000 US children die annually from
vaccines;
– poor reporting in America suggests that annual adverse vaccine
reactions, in fact, number from 100,000 – one million;
– since 1988, the government’s National Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program (NVICP) paid families of affected children $1.2 billion in
damages;
– as authorized by the 2006 Public Readiness and Emergency
Preparedness (PREP) Act, HHS Secretary Sebelius, granted drug
companies legal immunity (except for impossible to prove willful
misconduct) to proliferate dangerous, untested Swine Flu vaccines
globally;
– vaccines are legally mandated in all 50 US states, though legally
avoidable in most (under normal circumstances) as explained below;
– in settling vaccine damage suits, drug companies impose gag orders
to keep vital information from the public; and
– insurers refuse to cover adverse vaccine reactions because of the
high potential liability they’d face.
AMAdOTAbAM
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A recent WHO report found that third world disease and mortality rates
had no direct correlation with immunization programs, but closely
relate to hygiene and diet standards.
AMAdOTAbAM
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Read this, most doctors won't even take the vaccines!
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212254207.shtml