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Robert Firestone

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Mar 31, 2004, 10:29:05 AM3/31/04
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Does anyone know anything about this painting? Who is it by?
Robert

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Chris Erwich

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Mar 31, 2004, 10:56:16 AM3/31/04
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HI Robert,

I cannot tell you who made the painting , but I am pretty sure that is made
by a European painter. The stones that you see on the painting are not just
stones. They form a grave. It is in fact a grave called a "Hunebed". These
Hunebeds are excisting in Germany , Denmark and Holland. The makers were
living in that district about 20.000 years before Christ. I am from Holland
and I am pretty sure that it is not a Dutch painting. That is all I can say.

Chris

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David Raleigh Arnold

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Mar 31, 2004, 11:04:07 AM3/31/04
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:29:05 -0800, Robert Firestone wrote:

> Does anyone know anything about this painting?

The rock is a dolmen. Since there is no dead chieftain laid
out on it, I don't know what the guy is doing there. There
is an eclipse taking place. The artist had never seen one, or
not remembered it very well. I like the painting a lot.

> Who is it by? Robert

No idea. daveA

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Angelo Gilardino

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Mar 31, 2004, 11:45:36 AM3/31/04
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"Robert Firestone" <rof...@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Does anyone know anything about this painting? Who is it by?
> Robert
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Of course, this is a work by the German painter Caspar David Friedrich
(1774-1840). It is entitled "A Walk at Dusk".
I do not know its current location, but something tells me that it must be
in the USA.

ag


Richard F. Sayage

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Mar 31, 2004, 12:03:27 PM3/31/04
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As usual, Angelo is well informed. My failing memory and latest
understanding is that the painting, damaged slightly along the top (slight
scratches in the paint), sits in the J. Paul Getty Museum in Los Angeles. A
deeply religious man, Friedrich is one of many great talents to die in
poverty and illness towards the end of his life.
The painting is more beautiful in person. Mention of an eclipse is not
accurate, as it is simply a waning or waxing (can never remember the
difference) moon that can be seen at better resolution. There would seem to
be symbolism attached to Friedrich's feelings of himself, death and rebirth
at once.

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John Wasak

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Mar 31, 2004, 12:19:02 PM3/31/04
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The Getty Museum is right, Richard. More info at:

http://www.getty.edu/art/collections/objects/o1046.html


jw


Ashby

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Mar 31, 2004, 3:37:57 PM3/31/04
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I like that painting because the mood is so powerful, it has such a quiet
gloom. Look at the purple mist bathed in the moonlight. There's a sliver of
a waxing moon with the image of the full moon on top of it (this is
sometimes called "the new moon holding the old"). A planet appears to the
upper right of the moon, probably Venus. The National Gallery in Washington
DC has a Friedrich sepia seascape of a moonrise that is eerie and desolate,
a very disturbing work.
Ash


ITMX925

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Apr 1, 2004, 1:08:17 AM4/1/04
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Would pose the following questions to help form a more educated answer.

What is the size? [Contemporary standard sizes would help determine age]

Is it painted in oil or acrylic?

Is it painted on canvas, linen or on board? If painted on board, do you think
the canvas was glued down and wrapped around to the back of the board or just
glued down to the front of the board?
If it is painted on a linen that has a grey tint on the exposed back of the
painting, this is called French Linen. [This would help determine country of
origin. This type of linen was extremely expensive around the turn of the
century, thus used by only professional painters.]

If it has been painted on canvas and the canvas stretched on stretcher bars,
are the bars made of oak, pine or redwood.? Has the painting been attached to
the stretcher bars using square nails, round nails or staples. [Type of wood
used could help determine both age and country of origin.]

What I could determine from the picture
is that the painting is perhaps early 20th century given the treatment of
light. It might also be late 19th century as the 'feel' of the painting is
Pre-Raphaelite.

Look forward to any response.

Best regards,

'JohnDowland'


Robert Firestone

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Apr 1, 2004, 10:05:35 AM4/1/04
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John,
I thought that Angel already figured it out...........
Robert

Angelo Gilardino

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Apr 1, 2004, 10:20:12 AM4/1/04
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"Robert Firestone" <rof...@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> John,
> I thought that Angel already figured it out...........
> Robert

I admit I was fooled into believing that you actually needed to know the
name of the painter. This is why I answered. I will not repeat such a
mistake, be sure.

AG


ITMX925

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Apr 2, 2004, 1:37:11 AM4/2/04
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I thought you had the painting in your collection and was seeking specific
information regarding its potential authenticity.

'JohnDowland'

Angelo Gilardino

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"ITMX925" <itm...@aol.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> I thought you had the painting in your collection and was seeking specific
> information regarding its potential authenticity.
>
> 'JohnDowland'

I am an Italian, Sir. Here, since some thousands years, we do not know only
what we can buy and own.

AG


Robert Firestone

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Apr 2, 2004, 11:01:35 PM4/2/04
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"Angelo Gilardino" <angelog...@tin.it> wrote in message news:<c4hbvd$2iqd01$1...@ID-91010.news.uni-berlin.de>...

AG,
I am confused as to what you mean here. I just was wondering who
painted it, nothing else!
Robert

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