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Reza Ganjavi

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Oct 9, 2003, 4:12:23 PM10/9/03
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"I was the enemy of the major studio. I believed in one man - one film.
I believed one man should make the film. And I believed the director should
be that one man. One man should do it - I didn't give a damn who. I just
couldn't accept art as a committee. I could only accept art as an extension
of an individual."

Frank Capra - Film Director (1897- 1991):


John Wasak

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Oct 9, 2003, 5:08:05 PM10/9/03
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Reza Ganjavi <gan...@dtc.ch> wrote in message
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I dunno, Rez. This is weird since a film, especially the Hollywood sort of
film like Frank Capra made, is an extemely collaborative effort. The
director might want to claim sole artistry, but what of the writers, actors,
set designers, camera people, lighting, sound, make-up, costume design,
music score (if any), etc.?


jw


Richard Spross

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Oct 9, 2003, 7:41:15 PM10/9/03
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John Wasak wrote:

How about great public art? Doesn't it appear when when town councils, art
committees or who ever
is designated to make the decision, vote on what is to be commissioned or
accepted in the public
space?

And if playing the guitar artfully by oneself is artful, it can be said it
brings benefit to the player.
It very well might help build the character of the player so that said player
is a better human and
thus playing alone brings benefit to the home. If the player shares
the art of music with the family, or friends, then the benefit can more
directly
like ripples in a pool go out and bring benefit to many.

The above is a Taoist principle.

Then again if the prophet is not received in his home......He must go elsewhere

to be appreciated.

The above is a Christian observation.

Richard Spross


Reza Ganjavi

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Oct 10, 2003, 1:31:28 AM10/10/03
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"John Wasak" <mr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>
> I dunno, Rez. This is weird since a film, especially the Hollywood sort of
> film like Frank Capra made, is an extemely collaborative effort. The
> director might want to claim sole artistry, but what of the writers, actors,
> set designers, camera people, lighting, sound, make-up, costume design,
> music score (if any), etc.?

That's what I find intriguing -- in a way I see his point -- yes, set designers etc etc
but ultimately it all has to go through one man's mind and he has to see if it fits in his
vision.


David Raleigh Arnold

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Oct 10, 2003, 8:27:14 AM10/10/03
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Ars sine scientia nihil. (There is no art without craftsmanship.) To say
that craftsmanship is necessary to art is not to call it the same thing as
art. A collaboration of good artists (movie music: Clockers) can be much
better than the work of a bad artist (movie music: Lord of the Rings,
which won an academy award, consists entirely of crap.) but there is no
substitute for the seamless integration of words and music that you get
from a single songwriter-lyricist, for example. daveA

--
Br`er Fox told Br`er Rabbit that the Tar Baby had dissed him, and Fox made a
dummy out of tar and put him in Rabbit's path. When the Tar Baby failed to
return a civil greeting, Rabbit punched him with a right, a left, both feet and
butted him with his forehead. Along came Br`er Fox who saw that he was
thoroughly "stuck up". Br`er Fox is much smarter than Br`er Rabbit, and in
spite of all Rabbit's pleas for help, no one is going to unstick him and throw
him in the briar patch, so now Br`er Fox is liesurely eating Rabbit's liver.
D. Raleigh Arnold dra@ http://www.openguitar.com darn...@cox.net

Steve Perry

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Oct 10, 2003, 2:29:17 PM10/10/03
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In article <3f85c...@news.bluewin.ch>, Reza Ganjavi <gan...@dtc.ch>
wrote:

> "I was the enemy of the major studio. I believed in one man - one film.
> I believed one man should make the film. And I believed the director should
> be that one man. One man should do it - I didn't give a damn who. I just
> couldn't accept art as a committee. I could only accept art as an extension
> of an individual."

Capra directed some great movies. The idea of director as author has
been around for a long time, but it is, in a word, bunk. Theatrical
film is a collaborative medium by its nature, and unless one can
physically *do* all the parts by himself, one man cannot make a film.

Without a writer, there is nothing to direct. Without actors, nobody to
speak the words. Without below-the-line talent, you can't build sets,
light them, record the sound, overdub, cut, distribute or show your
movie. A great director can improve somewhat a fair script; a bad
director can ruin a great one. Ask a really good actor which is more
important, a director or the scriptwriter.

There are directors who know this and who refuse to take the the "Film
by" credit.

There is truth in the classic old saw, "A camel is a horse designed by
committee." There are also some perfectly good camels running around,
and places where they serve better than horses.

--
Steve

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