Cutaway nylon string that doesn't sound like crap
Patrick L
I started with classical training, but play more jazz and bossa nova than
anything else, and I like having a cutaway, but the ones I've tried just
don't sound like a good classical guitar. My Ovation ( Celebrity ) is old
and intonation is terrible.
Patrick
Miguel de Maria
Maybe you shouldn't expect a classical guitar with 15% of it missing
to sound good?
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All it takes is a lot of money
For about a third as much
http://www.breedloveguitars.com/instruments/guitars/performance/bossa_nova/index.php
Bob
John R.
John
David Kilpatrick
Yes, I've got three which sound good, and two which sound like classical
guitars.
1 - Lowden S25J Jazz nylon - amazing sound, not to everyone's taste due
to the very strong bass. Certainly not like most classicals, but what it
should be for the price.
2 - Romanian laminated rosewood/mahogany body with Carpathian spruce
top. This one gives me a problem because it's better than the Lowden in
many ways (certainly balanced with a sweeter treble and more controlled
bass) though a touch fundamental in tone. I should sell it, but I've
fitted a dual pickup/internal mic system and it offers an alternative
sound, much more what would be expected from a classical toned down a
touch for gigging and recording.
3 - similar Romanian laminated mahogany/maple with spruce top, cheap
model, still sounds surprisingly good, currently trying to find one of
those chequered/stripy bits of wood that goes on top of the bridge
(after repairing the guitar and trashing the original).
For whatever reason, these HORA Romanian guitars have always sounded far
better to me than any of the sub-Ł1000 Spanish made stuff sold by UK
shops - the Spanish ones are so much heavier and less responsive, have
massive frets, thick lacquer and just seem plonky and dead. I've not
found that the cutaways destroy any of the sound quality. My only doubts
about them are that you can often 'see the bracing' through the top
depending on humidity, but I guess that also means the tops are not
being made too heavily.
I'm getting two of their 7-string cheapie Russian guitars (maple/spruce)
in July - they will not make a special for me, I have to put up with
fake mahogany stain on the maple body and fake cedar stain on the spruce
top, because that's what their Russian customers want.
David
Steven Bornfeld
Are you gigging? I'd say the overwhelming majority of jazzers who play
nylon strings play them amplified.
Anyone know what Gene Bertoncini plays?
Oh, and I wouldn't despair if all you've played is an Ovation. ;-)
Steve
Steven Bornfeld
> In article <5cidnaxc8e5tF7DV...@earthlink.com>,> Buscarino Cabaret. I'll have one in a forthcoming lifetime.
>
But life is for living, John. Does Buscarino have a waiting list, or
is he putting his name on production guitars these days?
Steve
alcarruth
of the problem is that cutaway nylon string guitars tend not to get
any respect: Segovia didn't play one, and none of the current 'big
name' classical players do, so they're seen as a lesser breed. The
problem is that you may have to find an individual maker to make one
as a custom order, rather than buying one off the shelf, and that
would be pricey.
Alan Carruth / Luthier
enp...@cox.net
A former teacher has a marvelous Ruck cutaway which he ordered that
way. If it cost any volume or tone I sure can't tell!
Carlos Barrientos
> In article <IeednVDznoi5NbDV...@earthlink.com>,
> Steven Bornfeld <dentalt...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> John Rethorst wrote:
>>> In article <5cidnaxc8e5tF7DV...@earthlink.com>,
>>> Steven Bornfeld <dentalt...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone know what Gene Bertoncini plays?
>>> Buscarino Cabaret. I'll have one in a forthcoming lifetime.
>>>
>> But life is for living, John. Does Buscarino have a waiting list, or
>> is he putting his name on production guitars these days?
>
> See http://buscarino.com/. I think he makes all his guitars himself.
>
Played this:
http://www.lapatrieguitars.com/guitarshybridblack.html
two days ago @:
http://www.rockinrobinguitars.com/
They said I could walk away with it and a case for US $650.00. List
price was $868.00.
Played great, sounded nice, good value for the dollar. IMHO.
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Carlos Barrientos
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Phone: (713) 647-6018
thomas
> In article <IeednVDznoi5NbDVnZ2dnUVZ_gudn...@earthlink.com>,> > > In article <5cidnaxc8e5tF7DVnZ2dnUVZ_sDin...@earthlink.com>,
> > > Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Anyone know what Gene Bertoncini plays?
>
> > > Buscarino Cabaret. I'll have one in a forthcoming lifetime.
>
> > But life is for living, John. Does Buscarino have a waiting list, or
> > is he putting his name on production guitars these days?
>
I got a Cabaret direct from Buscarino a few years back that he'd built
on spec. So no waiting at all, except for the FedEx man, who dumped it
on my porch when I was living in a ghetto and wasn't even home.
Fortunately I got back before the neighborhood skels sobered up enough
to notice.
Keith Ganz
wrote:
>
> >> Anyone know what Gene Bertoncini plays?
>
>
> But life is for living, John. DoesBuscarinohave a waiting list, or
> is he putting his name on production guitars these days?
>
> Steve
John still makes every guitar himself...and I happen to have an
immaculate Grand Cabaret for sale! If anyone is interested let me
know.
Keith
John Nguyen
Yamaha:
or
or more expensive but much better quality:
OR check out the Aria guitar series AC-xxCE, where xx being 80, 50, or
25.
I think the Takamine 132 also has a cut-away model.
Cheers,
John
joer
> Keith Ganz worte:
> John still makes every guitar himself...and I happen to have an
> immaculate Grand Cabaret for sale! If anyone is interested let me
> know.
> Keith
Hi Keith, have you got some photos of the guitar?
Bye, Giuseppe.
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Jonathan
> >>> Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> Anyone know what Gene Bertoncini plays?
> >>> Buscarino Cabaret. I'll have one in a forthcoming lifetime.
>
> >> But life is for living, John. Does Buscarino have a waiting list, or
> >> is he putting his name on production guitars these days?
>
> > This is true. He may have a short waiting list, or a longer one - I don't know.
>
> Played this:
>
> http://www.lapatrieguitars.com/guitarshybridblack.html
>
> two days ago @:
>
> http://www.rockinrobinguitars.com/
>
> They said I could walk away with it and a case for US $650.00. List
> price was $868.00.
>
> Played great, sounded nice, good value for the dollar. IMHO.
>
> --
> Carlos Barrientos
> "mailto:ca...@sprintmail.com"
> Phone: (713) 647-6018
It looks like it has a 2 inch nut width which seems unusual for hybrid/
crossover nylon string guitars.
Did you listen to it amplified?
Carlos Barrientos
Unamplified it sounded pretty flat and even, that is to say, the trebles
and basses were balanced with neither projecting more than the other,
plugged in, you could dial up a nice contour and emphasize whatever
frequency you needed to emphasize, worth a look and a play in your
neighborhood store! IMHO
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Phone: (713) 647-6787
Miguel de Maria
>
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What, Compay, are you going to MIDI up your cutaway and use an LP
sound, so you can do the timbale solo yourself! :)
Carlos Barrientos
Nah, I'd hire my Tony award winning former student, Doug "El Chele"
Hinrichs for that!
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