I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
teaser called Studio Scherzo?
This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
next level.
There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
I can take it :-)
Cheers,
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
John, good to see you posting! I am impressed with how surely you
navigated the different textures and shifts, making very few mistakes
and making it look quite easy. What I am not hearing is how you feel,
musically, about the piece.
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
Nice going. If you want to make it a little better, how about playing
around with the dynamic levels? Play a passage or section at a
distinct dynamic level, then play the next one at a different level,
louder or softer, your creative choice. Just make it clear that it's
intentional and expresses your creative judgement. It's an easy and
fun thing to do and it gets a very nice payoff.
> On Apr 1, 9:55 pm, John Nguyen <johnnguyen5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ladies and Gents,
> > I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> > day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> > teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> > This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> > nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> > would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> > next level.
> > There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> > I can take it :-)
> > Cheers,
> John, good to see you posting! I am impressed with how surely you
> navigated the different textures and shifts, making very few mistakes
> and making it look quite easy. What I am not hearing is how you feel,
> musically, about the piece.
Really? Sounded pretty darned happy to me. Sunny and very good-
natured, too. Delightful.
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
On Sunday, April 1, 2012 9:55:34 PM UTC-7, John Nguyen wrote:
> Ladies and Gents,
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
It sounds good! (Nice images of ladies with umbrellas on a promenade)And the project is a good one.
Could it be that this study carry the idea from which HVL elaborated his study No.2?
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
Nice job, John! You have a a good start. I like your playing. The
first thing I noticed was your technique, your left hand is like the
really old Shearer books. Kind of tilted to the left. It seems to be
working for you and your RH appears to be a good, fundamental
technique. Specifically, I would work on shaping the melodic line. On
the most basic level, when a line goes up, cresc., when a line goes
down, decresc. Many times in Romantic era music like this, the
opposite is done for expression. The line goes up and you play a
decresc. or as a line goes down you play a cresc. which sounds cool
too. There are as times in this piece where there are leaps and
changes of direction in a line which sound good with a slight accent.
Also, I would work more on bringing out the harmonic tension. For
example, where the bass line is E-E#-F#. Play the E# louder than the
F#. This will help create the feeling of tension/release... Many
times, accidentals are red flags for this sort of thing in tonal
music. Doing a harmonic reduction of the piece would help you hear
this. I love hearing someone who is playing for no other reason other
than the love of the art. I have an older student like this. It is
great!
> > On Apr 1, 9:55 pm, John Nguyen <johnnguyen5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ladies and Gents,
> > > I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> > > day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> > > teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> > > This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> > > nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> > > would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> > > next level.
> > > There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> > > I can take it :-)
> > > Cheers,
> > John, good to see you posting! I am impressed with how surely you
> > navigated the different textures and shifts, making very few mistakes
> > and making it look quite easy. What I am not hearing is how you feel,
> > musically, about the piece.
> Really? Sounded pretty darned happy to me. Sunny and very good-
> natured, too. Delightful.
What I said was a, perhaps clumsy way, of saying what you said. But
yes, John is a delightful and sunny person.
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
If you haven't tried this yet, try playing the end chords as block
chords. That's how I prefer them, but you've gotta decide based on how
you pull it off and according to your taste.
Check the score, you're playing an E in the bass of the Amaj chord at
50 second mark and again at 1:13. I play an A in these spots.
> On Apr 2, 12:55 am, John Nguyen <johnnguyen5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ladies and Gents,
> > I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> > day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> > teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> > This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> > nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> > would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> > next level.
> > There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> > I can take it :-)
> > Cheers,
> Nice job, John! You have a a good start. I like your playing. The
> first thing I noticed was your technique, your left hand is like the
> really old Shearer books. Kind of tilted to the left. It seems to be
> working for you and your RH appears to be a good, fundamental
> technique. Specifically, I would work on shaping the melodic line. On
> the most basic level, when a line goes up, cresc., when a line goes
> down, decresc. Many times in Romantic era music like this, the
> opposite is done for expression. The line goes up and you play a
> decresc. or as a line goes down you play a cresc. which sounds cool
> too. There are as times in this piece where there are leaps and
> changes of direction in a line which sound good with a slight accent.
> Also, I would work more on bringing out the harmonic tension. For
> example, where the bass line is E-E#-F#. Play the E# louder than the
> F#. This will help create the feeling of tension/release... Many
> times, accidentals are red flags for this sort of thing in tonal
> music. Doing a harmonic reduction of the piece would help you hear
> this. I love hearing someone who is playing for no other reason other
> than the love of the art. I have an older student like this. It is
> great!
> Doug
Doug, this is good advice, but I wonder about the hand position as
well. To me, he's tilting the hand to right too much and playing on
the right side of the nail. But then you are correct in saying that
he's got it working. I think he might get a better P stroke if he
played in a perpendicular position.
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
> > I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> > day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> > teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> > This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> > nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> > would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> > next level.
> > There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> > I can take it :-)
> > Cheers,
> I find your hands to be fascinating. Looks like a right powerful grip!
> You've got the chops, now please try some real i.e., Spanish, music. :-)-
Thanks. All the labor work back then surely helped build up the
forearms, I think. Definitely some Spanishy (if that's a word) stuff
will be in the near future. Working on it.
Cheers,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:55:34 -0700 (PDT), John Nguyen wrote:
> Ladies and Gents,
> I¢m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I¢m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
With the time passing everyone perhaps wants to feel his own play going and feeling as easy as possible. As I always piffle its a good idea to try to close the eyes during exercising... For the left hand to feel safe during the many position shifts one should exercise these position shifts each one (slowly) to the end that he always conciously and relaxed touches each gutter-stick before he plays a note (no haste and eyes closed and counting and seeing the number of gutter-sticks to move). This would later cost NO time (and mental action) but it should enhance the ease (and the fun) of playing greatly.
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
Thanks all for the feedbacks. I'll try to incorporate them into the
2nd cut this weekend.
Cactus: I'll try to be more explicit with my musical feel the next
time If I could.
JPD: Thanks for the dynamics suggestion. I could see that in my head
now.
Wollybird: thanks for the comment. This my first somewhat fast-pace
piece recorded.
Alain: If you could see a stroll in the park from this, I'm more than
flattered!
Slogoin: Yes, block chords next time.
Doug: Thanks for the shaping suggestion. It makes perfect sense, and
I'll see what I can pull off in the next cut.
Luteman: Thanks for the compliment. I actually played on my left side
of the nails. Perhaps the angle of the camera had something to do with
it. In this position, I feel my thumb is the most articulated playing
finger.
Matt: I'll certainly try block chords in the next cut. My score has
the E bass note that the places you pointed out, but when I listened
to David Russell CD, he did play the A. Somehow at the moment I'm in
favor of the E at that place as it helps accentuate more on the F# to
E pull-off in the melody, but I'll try both as it should be an easy
change.
Overall, I had a lot of fun playing this piece.
Cheers,
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:55:34 -0700 (PDT), John Nguyen wrote:
> > Ladies and Gents,
> > I m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> > day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> > teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> > This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> > nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> > would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> > next level.
> > There, please have a go at it if you would. I m fairly thick skin and
> > I can take it :-)
> > Cheers,
> With the time passing everyone perhaps wants to feel his own play
> going and feeling as easy as possible. As I always piffle its a
> good idea to try to close the eyes during exercising... For the left
> hand to feel safe during the many position shifts one should exercise
> these position shifts each one (slowly) to the end that he always
> conciously and relaxed touches each gutter-stick before he plays
> a note (no haste and eyes closed and counting and seeing the number
> of gutter-sticks to move). This would later cost NO time (and mental
> action) but it should enhance the ease (and the fun) of playing greatly.
> You right hand looks pretty good strong to me.-
Thanks. Good suggestion on closing eyes. I normally would run through
a piece in the dark to build up muscle memory, but I never consciously
feel for the frets. Certainly I'll try that.
Cheers,
> On Apr 2, 5:48 pm, 2cts<2...@by.gov> wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:55:34 -0700 (PDT), John Nguyen wrote:
>>> Ladies and Gents,
>>> I m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
>>> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
>>> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
>>> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
>>> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
>>> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
>>> next level.
>>> There, please have a go at it if you would. I m fairly thick skin and
>>> I can take it :-)
>>> Cheers,
>> With the time passing everyone perhaps wants to feel his own play
>> going and feeling as easy as possible. As I always piffle its a
>> good idea to try to close the eyes during exercising... For the left
>> hand to feel safe during the many position shifts one should exercise
>> these position shifts each one (slowly) to the end that he always
>> conciously and relaxed touches each gutter-stick before he plays
>> a note (no haste and eyes closed and counting and seeing the number
>> of gutter-sticks to move). This would later cost NO time (and mental
>> action) but it should enhance the ease (and the fun) of playing greatly.
>> You right hand looks pretty good strong to me.-
> Thanks. Good suggestion on closing eyes. I normally would run through
> a piece in the dark to build up muscle memory, but I never consciously
> feel for the frets. Certainly I'll try that.
You were in an altered state of consciousnesses. That's the payoff for me in playing the guitar. OTOH, drugs would have been a heck of a lot less work. :-)
> I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> next level.
> There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> I can take it :-)
> Cheers,
Great playing, John. Sorry I'm a little late to the party. Seems
like you got a few good pointers here, too. I like this piece but had
never heard it before. (I never heard the Rachmaninov #1 by Andrew
before, either. Excellent! You must be very proud.)
On Apr 2, 5:44 pm, John Nguyen <johnnguyen5...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to highlight some of the comments.
> JPD: Thanks for the dynamics suggestion. I could see that in my head
> now.
This is great advise. Take this principle and exaggerate it for
practice, that is, practice the piece in various moods, like animato,
andante, con moto maestoso, etc. then when you return to the mood you
think fits the piece best you'll have a fuller palette to draw from.
> Slogoin: Yes, block chords next time.
I think he meant to practice strumming the chords throughout like a
folky, i.e.,
A | E7 | E7 | A |
A | D | E7 | A | ... which is a great idea to get the folk element,
from which this piece came, ingrained in your head.
> Doug: Thanks for the shaping suggestion. It makes perfect sense, and
> I'll see what I can pull off in the next cut.
Yes. Great advise on E F F#. I was going to comment on these notes,
but Doug said it better than I was thinking about saying it.
> On Apr 2, 12:55 am, John Nguyen <johnnguyen5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ladies and Gents,
> > I’m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> > day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> > teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> > This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> > nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> > would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> > next level.
> > There, please have a go at it if you would. I’m fairly thick skin and
> > I can take it :-)
> > Cheers,
> Great playing, John. Sorry I'm a little late to the party. Seems
> like you got a few good pointers here, too. I like this piece but had
> never heard it before. (I never heard the Rachmaninov #1 by Andrew
> before, either. Excellent! You must be very proud.)
> Cheers!
> Ken
Thanks, Ken! I like both pieces myself :-)
Cheers,
> > On Apr 2, 5:48 pm, 2cts<2...@by.gov> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:55:34 -0700 (PDT), John Nguyen wrote:
> >>> Ladies and Gents,
> >>> I m starting my own CG project with the Tarrega repertoire. And on the
> >>> day after the April Fools Day, what could more appropriate than a
> >>> teaser called Studio Scherzo?
> >>> This is the fruit from the effort in the last two months, obviously
> >>> nowhere near the polished level I would like to have, but I thought I
> >>> would put it up for kicks and solicit any comments to bring it to the
> >>> next level.
> >>> There, please have a go at it if you would. I m fairly thick skin and
> >>> I can take it :-)
> >>> Cheers,
> >> With the time passing everyone perhaps wants to feel his own play
> >> going and feeling as easy as possible. As I always piffle its a
> >> good idea to try to close the eyes during exercising... For the left
> >> hand to feel safe during the many position shifts one should exercise
> >> these position shifts each one (slowly) to the end that he always
> >> conciously and relaxed touches each gutter-stick before he plays
> >> a note (no haste and eyes closed and counting and seeing the number
> >> of gutter-sticks to move). This would later cost NO time (and mental
> >> action) but it should enhance the ease (and the fun) of playing greatly.
> >> You right hand looks pretty good strong to me.-
> > Thanks. Good suggestion on closing eyes. I normally would run through
> > a piece in the dark to build up muscle memory, but I never consciously
> > feel for the frets. Certainly I'll try that.
> You were in an altered state of consciousnesses. That's the payoff for
> me in playing the guitar. OTOH, drugs would have been a heck of a lot
> less work. :-)
> > Cheers,
> > John
Yep! Especially when I started dozing off in the middle of the piece
with the lights off.
On Apr 2, 6:58 pm, Matt Faunce <mattfau...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 5:44 pm, John Nguyen <johnnguyen5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Slogoin: Yes, block chords next time.
> I think he meant to practice strumming the chords throughout like a
> folky, i.e.,
> A | E7 | E7 | A |
> A | D | E7 | A | ... which is a great idea to get the folk element,
> from which this piece came, ingrained in your head.
> Matt
Oh, that chord! I didn't try that as I thought the structure was
fairly simple. I'll take a crack at it later.
