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Villa Lobos Etude No.2

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Brennan Link

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:20:10 AM11/22/09
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Ok, Im new to Villa Lobos, It sucks, but ill get it down, if you
could tell me some pointers for my fingers or left or right hand that
would be great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaL7pXrM4eE

Tommy Grand

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:26:14 AM11/22/09
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Brennan, bravo for posting something. I'd much rather watch your
video, than listen to another tall tale from some old retired windbag,
about how great he was at playing "authentic flamenco" back before
they invented tape recorders.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with your hands. I think your
left hand looks better than mine, so far be it from me to criticize.

Tell me, have you been working on this for more like one day, or more
like three weeks? I noted in one of your earlier posts you mentioned
your teacher was Douglas Seth, and you talked about practicing 5 hours
a day and working on advanced stuff. So I assume you know what you
are doing and know how to choose a piece that's appropriate for your
level. But if you've been struggling with this one for awhile, I'd
suggest backing off to something easier.

Brennan I was in The Colony store in NY the other day, and I saw this
book in the stacks: http://www.amazon.com/presents-Graded-Repertoire-Guitar-Book/dp/0786668202,
which has a relatively easy arpeggio piece by your teacher. I didn't
play it, but it looked like one of those pieces that's really easy but
still sounds effective. Maybe you should make a video of that. I'm
not saying this as a diss on your playing level or anything, but if
you are struggling at all with camera jitters, it might help you to
first record something that presents no technical challenge to you.

Have fun, keep it up,
TG

Tashi

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:12:39 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 7:26 am, Tommy Grand <howardj...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> Brennan, bravo for posting something.  I'd much rather watch your
> video, than listen to another tall tale from some old retired windbag,
> about how great he was at playing "authentic flamenco" back before
> they invented tape recorders.

Wasn't he running the Pentagon too?

Denio

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:26:25 PM11/22/09
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You definitely need a better left hand fingering. You're working way
too hard in a piece that's very difficult as it is. All those slurs on
the first two notes of each measure are to be taken with a grain of
salt and are more smooth legato markings than actual left hand
hammer-ons. For instance in m.2 there's a slur from B to D which you're
playing on the 5th string. It's possible to do it that way but are you
going to follow through on the 5th string in mm. 8-9 like that as well?
It's near impossible. So I suggest starting in m.2 that you play the D
(Beat 1- 2nd 16th) open and and then slur-hammer-on to the E. You'll
find that you might want to add slurs as well to make the piece flow
more. For instance at the end of m.2 I slur-pull-off the last two 16ths
E to open D on the 4th string. These are just suggestions, in the end
you have use the fingering that works best for you but there's no doubt
that a good left hand fingering is very important in getting this piece
to move smoothly in an efficient way. As far as the right hand goes
that's also extremely important, ask your teacher to work out that with
you note-by-note and stick with it. Try playing this piece with right
hand alone, it's one of those perpetual motion pieces where right and
left hands have to be completely synchronized and working flawlessly
together to sound good. Another piece like that is the Bach Prelude to
the 4th Lute Suite in E where practicing right hand alone is very
effective in mastering the piece.

Denio

Brennan Link

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:17:33 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 1:26 pm, Denio <denio23...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yeah I know all the fingerings but I always mess around and try to
find other ways to play it to make it much easier for me. Iv been off
and on with Etude No.2 my current Teacher gave me the Carcassi piece
that inspired Villa Lobos and that piece is at a much easier level for
me.

Brennan Link

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:23:41 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 9:26 am, Tommy Grand <howardj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 3:20 am, Brennan Link <classicalbren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, Im new to Villa Lobos, It sucks, but ill get it down,  if you
> > could tell me some pointers for my fingers or left or right hand that
> > would be great.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaL7pXrM4eE
>
> Brennan, bravo for posting something.  I'd much rather watch your
> video, than listen to another tall tale from some old retired windbag,
> about how great he was at playing "authentic flamenco" back before
> they invented tape recorders.
>
> Personally I don't see anything wrong with your hands.  I think your
> left hand looks better than mine, so far be it from me to criticize.
>
> Tell me, have you been working on this for more like one day, or more
> like three weeks?  I noted in one of your earlier posts you mentioned
> your teacher was Douglas Seth, and you talked about practicing 5 hours
> a day and working on advanced stuff.  So I assume you know what you
> are doing and know how to choose a piece that's appropriate for your
> level.  But if you've been struggling with this one for awhile, I'd
> suggest backing off to something easier.
>
> Brennan I was in The Colony store in NY the other day, and I saw this
> book in the stacks:http://www.amazon.com/presents-Graded-Repertoire-Guitar-Book/dp/07866...,

> which has a relatively easy arpeggio piece by your teacher.  I didn't
> play it, but it looked like one of those pieces that's really easy but
> still sounds effective.  Maybe you should make a video of that.  I'm
> not saying this as a diss on your playing level or anything, but if
> you are struggling at all with camera jitters, it might help you to
> first record something that presents no technical challenge to you.
>
> Have fun, keep it up,
> TG

Thanks! :) Douglas gave me 2 arpeggios from the piece a while back
for me to practice, at the time I didnt know they were from Etude No.
2. But for time with this piece iv been off and on with it, I'm only
15, I still have other school work to finish up lol, but soon ill get
it down.

Brennan Link

Denio

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:23:20 PM11/22/09
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Wish I would have known that before I commented in length about your post.


Denio

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