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Alphonsus Jr.  
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 3:03 pm
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From: "Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 3:03 pm
Subject: The Elephant In This Room
Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?


 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 5:16 pm
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From: Murdick <lutem...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:16:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:03:34 PM UTC-5, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?

Stop acting like a girl.  Cowboy up.

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 6:14 pm
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From: TheChris <cab...@nospam.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:14:29 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
"Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com> wrote in news:8b5c105e-7ed4-4416-
80a6-c5648fb1fc49@googlegroups.com:

> Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We

all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the

women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the
discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the
Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against
her? What's happened to us?

This is a group about guitar playing.... Not about cooking and cleaning!!!
:)

Okay - that was uncalled for.... Just a joke, just a joke.. If you haven't
gotten it, I'm VERY sarcastic...

If you want girls, head over to the American Idol NG.... There's more than
you can handle in there.  Yes, I frequent both :)


 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 7:06 pm
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From: thomas <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:03:34 PM UTC-4, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:

> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?>

I'm truly a female female.

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 8:18 pm
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From: dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:18:02 -1000
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On 10/10/2012 9:03 AM, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:

> Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?

You're sniffing up the wrong tree. You're looking for a 7-11 in the
middle of a rainforest. Check out a different newsgroup. Be proactive -
don't wait for the chicks to come to you! I can appreciate your
persistence but you gave Lady Anna ample time to get here. Time to move on.

Try an artsy-crafty newsgroup like pottery or jelly-making or
bondage-abuse or whatever the hell it is that females like. Be wary, the
females you might find on Usenet are kind of nutty and on the mature
side which means that you should be able to find the girl U want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4-2onb62y8


 
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Fadosolrélamisi  
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 8:26 pm
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From: Fadosolrélamisi <rei...@telus.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:26:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 12:03:34 UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. a écrit :

> Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?

The problems with elephants is that they can blind you ... if you know the parable you'll understand that they are hard to describe!

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 10:48 pm
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From: "Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:48:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 10:48 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
It pains me a great deal that none of you are taking this most serious issue very seriously. Listen, we need to get some babes in here. But how???

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 10:50 pm
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From: dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:50:51 -1000
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Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On 10/10/2012 2:26 PM, Fadosolr lamisi wrote:

> Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 12:03:34 UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. a crit :
>> Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

>> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?

> The problems with elephants is that they can blind you ... if you know the parable you'll understand that they are hard to describe!

Being in a room with an elephant totally sucks. I had a bad experience
when the elephant in the room went nuts at a circus. I found out that in
times like that, my spidey sense kicks in and I won't bother hanging
around to see "what develops" or if the situation improves. Heading out
the door at the first sign of trouble is one of my best traits.

 
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Fadosolrélamisi  
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 11:47 pm
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From: Fadosolrélamisi <rei...@telus.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:47:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 11:47 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 19:48:48 UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. a écrit :

> It pains me a great deal that none of you are taking this most serious issue very seriously. Listen, we need to get some babes in here. But how???

A recording of your tremolo, I guarantee it, will bring them all to your knees!

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 11:47 pm
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From: Cactus Wren <elegantspanishgui...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 11:47 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:48:48 PM UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> It pains me a great deal that none of you are taking this most serious issue very seriously. Listen, we need to get some babes in here. But how???

Tough one.  Few girls play guitar.  Those that do are always vastly outnumbered by guys, so they probably have busier than average social lives.  Also, girls usually don't care much about rest strokes, so that would eliminate half of the reason to be here.  

 
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Fadosolrélamisi  
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 11:55 pm
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From: Fadosolrélamisi <rei...@telus.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 19:50:59 UTC-7, dsi1 a écrit :

Me, my lamentations go to the fact that the only elephant I've seen was as the zoo ... it's so sad ... all the other elephant I've seen where in these discovery channel documentaries on elephants in Africa, India, China ... I love these documentaries but, unfortunately, they can never replace a true, real, gigantic, ear flapping freaking elephant drinking and showering with his ... (Blank! I have an English blank!!! I know the word in French ... heu une trompe d'éléphant ... but in English??? Blank!
I'm sure someone will help me here! ... heu ...please ... can someone ...)

 
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Fadosolrélamisi  
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 11:59 pm
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From: Fadosolrélamisi <rei...@telus.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 11:59 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 20:55:43 UTC-7, Fadosolrélamisi a écrit :

Sorry Cactus ... I was so excited by that memory return ... trunk!!! Trunk! An elephant trunk!

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 12:27 am
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From: dewachen1...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:27:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 12:27 am
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:48:48 PM UTC-6, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> It pains me a great deal that none of you are taking this most serious issue very seriously. Listen, we need to get some babes in here. But how???

Last time there was a babe on this forum I was making some real and meaningful progress with her......... I learned she was wear pink panties and a matching brasserie..........then Thomas came along interrupted our dinner, got jealous, and scared her away!

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 5:58 am
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From: dsi1 <d...@eternal-september.invalid>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:58:13 -1000
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 5:58 am
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On 10/10/2012 5:55 PM, Fadosolr lamisi wrote:

> Me, my lamentations go to the fact that the only elephant I've seen was as the zoo ... it's so sad ... all the other elephant I've seen where in these discovery channel documentaries on elephants in Africa, India, China ... I love these documentaries but, unfortunately, they can never replace a true, real, gigantic, ear flapping freaking elephant drinking and showering with his ... (Blank! I have an English blank!!! I know the word in French ... heu une trompe d' l phant ... but in English??? Blank!
> I'm sure someone will help me here! ... heu ...please ... can someone ...)

That thing at you're referring to is called "the terrifying death
trumpet of doom." Hopefully, I'll never hear one of those again.

"Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's
running and screaming."


 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 9:52 am
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From: thomas <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:52:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room

On Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:27:16 AM UTC-4, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:

> Last time there was a babe on this forum I was making some real and meaningful progress with her......... I learned she was wear pink panties and a matching brasserie..........then Thomas came along interrupted our dinner, got jealous, and scared her away!>

She needs to stay out of my underwear drawer.

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 10:39 am
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From: Fadosolrélamisi <rei...@telus.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:39:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 10:39 am
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
Le jeudi 11 octobre 2012 02:58:15 UTC-7, dsi1 a écrit :

Ha! A flash back to Tarzan!

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://rhapsody2000.free.fr/images...

Now if we would all dress like the Mangore ...


 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 10:50 am
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From: Fadosolrélamisi <rei...@telus.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:50:01 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 10:50 am
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 12:03:34 UTC-7, Alphonsus Jr. a écrit :

> Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?

Some ideas for future topic on the same format :

The Armadillo in this room
The purple turtle in this room
The chicken in this room
The mouse in this room
The seal in this room
The humming bird in this room
The butterfly in this room
The snake in this room
the Ant in this room
the crow in this room
The shark in this room
the cockroach in this room
The ostrich in this room
The vroom vroom car in this room

Here, you have a year and two months worth of topics!


 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 11:12 am
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From: himmelhoch <himmelh...@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:03:34 PM UTC-4, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?

Perhaps they are put off by troglodytes clamoring for the return of the Spanish Inquisition!

S


 
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From: musi...@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:03:06 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:03:34 -0700 (PDT), "Alphonsus Jr."

<alphonsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Something about this group disturbs me. It disturbs me a great deal. We all know what it is. But we sweep it under the rug.

>I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women???

Hello!

Sharon
Secretary to Christopher Parkening
www.parkening.com


 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 12:12 pm
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On Oct 11, 4:39 am, Fadosolrélamisi <rei...@telus.net> wrote:

Jane gone. Jungle sad. Come back Jane. Want pancake.

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 12:28 pm
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From: "Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:28:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room

On Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:03:06 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
> Hello!

> Sharon

> Secretary to Christopher Parkening

> www.parkening.com

Excellent! What can we do to make you stick around? We are at your service.

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 12:41 pm
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From: Cactus Wren <elegantspanishgui...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
Good question, but perhaps this will help: I was listening to some Parkening the other day.  I do think he has just about my favorite sound quality of any guitarist.


 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 1:14 pm
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:14:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On Oct 11, 12:41 pm, Cactus Wren <elegantspanishgui...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I have his A Tribute to Segovia CD, and I could listen to his Torre
Bermeja all day long. He has a very nice touch and sugary sound.

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 6:08 pm
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:08:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On 10/10/2012 7:06 PM, thomas wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:03:34 PM UTC-4, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:

>> I'm talking about sexism. Sexism in this very group. Where are the women??? I mean, is it acceptable to have only one woman (thomas) in the discussion? What about inclusivity? What about equality? What about the Other? Are we so frightened of the Other that we need to wage war against her? What's happened to us?>

> I'm truly a female female.

Flower Drum Song?

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001


 
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From: Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:10:57 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: The Elephant In This Room
On 10/11/2012 9:52 AM, thomas wrote:
> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:27:16 AM UTC-4, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Last time there was a babe on this forum I was making some real and meaningful progress with her......... I learned she was wear pink panties and a matching brasserie..........then Thomas came along interrupted our dinner, got jealous, and scared her away!>

> She needs to stay out of my underwear drawer.

+1

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718-258-5001


 
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