My election prediction, Romney will win

[dewach...@gmail.com]

This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.

1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
2) Mercury goes retrograde in Scorpio with Rahu.
3) All Benefic planets are weak.
4) Moon is in the Birthstar of Ashlesha - a harsh Birthstar.
5) Sun & Venus are both debilitated which further weakens the Sun.

The planets are all stressed out this week. Venus & Sun are both debilitated, Mercury is afflicted by Rahu and Mars in Scorpio, Jupiter is retrograde, and exalted Saturn is with his nemesis the Sun. Propitiate the planets to help you remain patient and calm in the storm's eye.

President Barack Obama’s birth chart is quite strong and the transits are more favorable for him on election day.
1) Exalted Moon in birth chart makes Obama charismatic and likable.
2) The planet that rules his 1st house Saturn, is now exalted in his 10th house of career.
3) He is now running Saturn which activates a powerful yoga and it is exalted.

Challenger Mitt Romney's birth chart is even stronger, especially in terms of finances but the transits are not very favorable for him on the day of the election.
1) Powerful 10th house Sun gives Romney charisma but debilitated Moon makes him appear cold.
2) The planet that rules his 1st house Venus, is now debilitated in his 5th house of luck.
3) He is now running Sun which activates a powerful yoga but it is currently debilitated.
4) Romney's current planetary cycles are more in-line with the US chart than Obama's.

The 1776 USA chart shows the US is in a Mars period and Mars is in Gemini, a very changeable sign. So undecided US voters are likely to make a change for change sake.

Prediction: It will be a very close race. The day will start off in Barack Obama's favor but by late afternoon as Mercury goes retrograde, the tide will turn in favor for Romney. It may take several days for a winner to be announced. When the dust settles, my prediction is that Mitt Romney will win the 2012 US presidential election.

[wollybird]

Obama 50.5%, 303 electoral votes
Romney 48.5% 235 electoral votes

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Which poll is that? Here's some more take your pick.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

[Jonathan]

It's the electrical volts that are going to make the difference, though.

[wollybird]

> Which poll is that?  Here's some more take your pick.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_ele...

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/custom-presidential-election-map#njamdnjannaajenae
My amalgamation of the poll agregators

[dsi1]

On 11/5/2012 9:52 AM, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Which poll is that? Here's some more take your pick.
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
>

Americans no longer believe in the stars or polls. What do they believe
in? Football damnit! Since the Washington Redskins lost their last
homegame of the season, Romney is going to win! I'm planning on moving
to Canada and am looking to find a kind guitar-playing soul that I can
sponge off of until my CA welfare checks starts arriving. Know anybody?

[Cactus Wren]

I have a solution. If Romney wins, Hawaii should secede and become the Democratic Republic of Hawaii! Solves the President problem.

You will have to figure out how to pick a king, though...

[dewach...@gmail.com]

A lot of them up for grabs, we'll see what shakes loose.

[dsi1]

On 11/5/2012 12:27 PM, Cactus Wren wrote:
> I have a solution. If Romney wins, Hawaii should secede and become the Democratic Republic of Hawaii! Solves the President problem.
>
> You will have to figure out how to pick a king, though...
>
>

We'll probably have to ask N. Korea for help and declare war on the
mainland and restore the monarchy. They'll probably start sponging off
of us and take all our pineapple but my guess is that what we lose in
pineapple, we'll gain in all the kimchee we can wheelbarrow out of the
country.

[David Raleigh Arnold]

He won't win, but he might seize power the way Bush did.

--
Guitar teaching materials and original music for all styles and levels.
Site: http://www.openguitar.com (()) eMail: d.raleig...@gmail.com
Contact: http://www.openguitar.com/contact.html"

[Alphonsus Jr.]

The really amazing thing is that if Romney wins, most will think that a conservative has won. The following line would be utterly incomprehensible to them: "A DEMOCRAT of the 1950s would view today’s 'conservative' Republican as a liberal savage."

Such is the breakdown.

[wollybird]

> >http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/custom-presidential-election...

>
> > My amalgamation of the poll agregators
>
> A lot of them up for grabs, we'll see what shakes loose.

only if they are somehow all biased one way.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/03/nov-2-for-romney-to-win-state-polls-must-be-statistically-biased/

[wollybird]

On Nov 5, 6:09 pm, "Alphonsus Jr." <alphonsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The really amazing thing is that if Romney wins, most will think that a conservative has won. The following line would be utterly incomprehensible to them: "A DEMOCRAT of the 1950s would view today’s 'conservative' Republican as a liberal savage."
>
> Such is the breakdown.

no, if Romney wins, you have no idea what just got elected, as he has
yet to lay out anything definitive.
A true conservative in the image of Burke will always choose Obama.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/obamas-right-wing/

[dsi1]

On 11/5/2012 2:09 PM, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> The really amazing thing is that if Romney wins, most will think that a conservative has won. The following line would be utterly incomprehensible to them: "A DEMOCRAT of the 1950s would view today’s 'conservative' Republican as a liberal savage."
>
> Such is the breakdown.
>

It doesn't matter how you want to label Romney, cause we're fucked nine
different ways at any angle you want to approach. Labels won't offer
comfort or clarification if this comes to pass. That's the breaks.

[Alphonsus Jr.]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 4:22:56 PM UTC-8, dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/5/2012 2:09 PM, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
>

> > The really amazing thing is that if Romney wins, most will think that a conservative has won. The following line would be utterly incomprehensible to them: "A DEMOCRAT of the 1950s would view today�s 'conservative' Republican as a liberal savage."

>
> >
>
> > Such is the breakdown.
>
> >
>
>
>
> It doesn't matter how you want to label Romney, cause we're fucked nine
>
> different ways at any angle you want to approach. Labels won't offer
>
> comfort or clarification if this comes to pass. That's the breaks.

Not at all. Once such drama queenery is set aside, one sees that the truth is that very little will change if Romney is elected.

[Alphonsus Jr.]

Pure sophistry. Those are counterfeit conservatives. Under no circumstances would an actual conservative ever vote for Obama.

By the way, when I speak of genuine conservatives, I'm thinking more along the lines of Joseph de Maistre than Edmund Burke.

[Jonathan]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 7:09:06 PM UTC-5, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
> The really amazing thing is that if Romney wins, most will think that a conservative has won. The following line would be utterly incomprehensible to them: "A DEMOCRAT of the 1950s would view today’s 'conservative' Republican as a liberal savage."
>
>
>
> Such is the breakdown.

I don't quite follow you. Can you give some concrete policy examples demonstrating this move to the left on the part of the Republican party?

[Jonathan]

It depends on your perspective. If you value gay rights and reproductive freedoms, and Romney gets a chance to appoint a few supreme court justices, it could make a big difference.

[Steve Freides]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZeAC5Abco

-S-

[Alphonsus Jr.]

As I said, that line is incomprehensible to today's processed legions. (I had just now written several paragraphs, but then I deleted them when I remembered that such an offering would be both futile and a throwing of yet more pearls to swine. At last, I've learned!)

[dewach...@gmail.com]

The irony is we thought we knew who Obama was, and he turned out to be an actor as well. Wolli, at this point in your life do you really believe politicians during an election? Like If Romney says something that's what he will do? Ha ha! I thought you were more cleaver than this.

As the highly educated banker that you are, of course you are aware that Obama asked Merkel to delay cutting Greece loose until after the election.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Personally, I don't value the gay agenda, nor do I care if women have access to government suppled birth control, these are not reasons to elect the leader of the free world. I do think gays should have the same protections as all citizens though.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Here is an excellent analysis of the electoral college state by state, looks like Romney.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 10:10:52 AM UTC-7, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:

here's the link...
http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/rjs-2012-presidential-election-predictions/

[Jonathan]

You made an assertion and I asked for a simple example. Surely that can't be too difficult. Let's take a Democrat from the 1950s, like Adlai Stevenson. Are you saying that Adlai Stevenson would regard Grover Norquist as a liberal savage?

[Jonathan]

I'm just saying that there are obvious differences between the two candidates.
One could certainly make the argument that there are more similarilies than differences. I'd have a hard time disputing that assertion.
For example, there is no doubt that both candidates are ultimately accountable to Goldman Sachs.

[dsi1]

On 11/5/2012 2:27 PM, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:
>
> Not at all. Once such drama queenery is set aside, one sees that the truth is that very little will change if Romney is elected.
>

All drama queenery aside, would your attitude have anything to do with
the fact that you can afford health care and that there's no chance the
you'd ever become pregnant? Fess up.

[wollybird]

1) Romney hasn't said he'd do anything that he hasn't contradicted. I
have no idea what his real agenda is.
2) You're the one that thought Obama was something he wasn't, and that
everything would change 4 weeks after he took office, not me. I was
ambivalent about him.
Greece, btw would be better off in my opinion if they left the euro.

[Gerry]

Oops!

I accidentally deleted all the messages from this topic.

OH NO! OH NO! How can I live without at least another 50 ruminations
on the topic of who's gonna win the big game.

How could God let this happen to me?!?!
--
Music is the best means we have of digesting time. -- W. H. Auden

[wollybird]

interesting that felt the need to post that.

[dsi1]

On 11/5/2012 5:22 PM, Gerry wrote:
> Oops!
>
> I accidentally deleted all the messages from this topic.
>
> OH NO! OH NO! How can I live without at least another 50 ruminations
> on the topic of who's gonna win the big game.
>
> How could God let this happen to me?!?!

Don't forget to erase this one too.

[Gerry]

On 2012-11-06 03:27:23 +0000, wollybird said:

> On Nov 5, 9:23 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:
>> Oops!
>>
>> I accidentally deleted all the messages from this topic.
>>
>> OH NO!  OH NO!  How can I live without at least another 50 ruminations
>> on the topic of who's gonna win the big game.
>>
>> How could God let this happen to me?!?!
>

> interesting that felt the need to post that.

It was intended in jest. I'll try again after the world has restarted
its rotation...

[Alphonsus Jr.]

It's understandable when one knows that this prick thinks very highly of himself. He thinks everything he writes is worth reading simply because he's written it. This is related to the fact that, incredibly, he thinks he's an excellent writer. Alas, such delusions of grandeur have become quite common.

[Fadosolrélamisi]

There is also in the race of tomorrows predictions : the Korean talking elephant, the Obama ancestors and the voodoo priest who spent time levitating in the middle of the eye of hurricane Sandy, and the last but not the least, all the USA citizens that will go vote tomorrow. Who do you trust the most for a definitive, pragmatic, down to earth result? After all the choice is yours, even if there is no choice.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

I'll be the first to admit I went for Obama hook line and sinker, last time, fool me once shame on me, fool me twice....... well ya just can't fool me again.

Looks like Greece has no choice at this point..... ya know what they say, if Greece goes so does Spain, and Italy.... bye bye Euro, hello anarchy!

[dewach...@gmail.com]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 10:10:52 AM UTC-7, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>
>
>
> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
>
> 2) Mercury goes retrograde in Scorpio with Rahu.
>
> 3) All Benefic planets are weak.
>
> 4) Moon is in the Birthstar of Ashlesha - a harsh Birthstar.
>
> 5) Sun & Venus are both debilitated which further weakens the Sun.
>
>
>
> The planets are all stressed out this week. Venus & Sun are both debilitated, Mercury is afflicted by Rahu and Mars in Scorpio, Jupiter is retrograde, and exalted Saturn is with his nemesis the Sun. Propitiate the planets to help you remain patient and calm in the storm's eye.
>
>
>
> President Barack Obama’s birth chart is quite strong and the transits are more favorable for him on election day.
>
> 1) Exalted Moon in birth chart makes Obama charismatic and likable.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Saturn, is now exalted in his 10th house of career.
>
> 3) He is now running Saturn which activates a powerful yoga and it is exalted.
>
>
>
> Challenger Mitt Romney's birth chart is even stronger, especially in terms of finances but the transits are not very favorable for him on the day of the election.
>
> 1) Powerful 10th house Sun gives Romney charisma but debilitated Moon makes him appear cold.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Venus, is now debilitated in his 5th house of luck.
>
> 3) He is now running Sun which activates a powerful yoga but it is currently debilitated.
>
> 4) Romney's current planetary cycles are more in-line with the US chart than Obama's.
>
>
>
> The 1776 USA chart shows the US is in a Mars period and Mars is in Gemini, a very changeable sign. So undecided US voters are likely to make a change for change sake.
>
>
>
> Prediction: It will be a very close race. The day will start off in Barack Obama's favor but by late afternoon as Mercury goes retrograde, the tide will turn in favor for Romney. It may take several days for a winner to be announced. When the dust settles, my prediction is that Mitt Romney will win the 2012 US presidential election.

Yea yea yea! My prediction is based on sound astrological science.

[wollybird]

Yes, but not anarchy

[wollybird]

Same as Christian math

[Cactus Wren]

It's kind of scary, Greece appears to be overrun by a Neo-Nazi organization. Economic hardship and austerity measures create an environment for this sort of thing.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Hindu's were better at math than the Christians!

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Wait until the Italians hang Monti the Goldman Sach's muppet from the highest street light.

[wollybird]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:30:31 PM UTC-6, Cactus Wren wrote:
> It's kind of scary, Greece appears to be overrun by a Neo-Nazi organization. Economic hardship and austerity measures create an environment for this sort of thing.
>

and communist. we agree on something.
Austerity in the current situation acomplishes nothing positive, not even deficit reducction, as the IMF has finally realized.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

What in your opinion will help Greece?

[dewach...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:25:45 AM UTC-7, wollybird wrote:

When the Euro collapses, the dollar will be strong and that's a real drag!

[dewach...@gmail.com]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 10:30:31 PM UTC-7, Cactus Wren wrote:

Yes, Nigel Farage sums it up quite nicely here, he has been pointing out the rise of the neo-nazi party in Greece since the last election. The EU like Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize, for an abstract concept, with no basis in reality, so much for that, I've heard McDonalds is giving away a free Noble Peace prize with every happy meal.

In reality the EU is subjugating nation states and destroying democracy. Europeans never seem to learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSoCZs8WlDg&list=UU-XsHHcuGtyzQMmuITIQCpg&index=1&feature=plcp

[Cactus Wren]

Unfortunately, that's too complicated an argument for most. I was playing for a cocktail hour and heard one of the well-heeled attendees blather that cutting foreign aid was the first and most important step to solving all of the USA's problems.

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:25:45 AM UTC-7, wollybird wrote:

[Cactus Wren]

The EU is a neo-Liberal fantasy, if somewhat charming in conception. Unfortunately, like every scheme hatched by the rich, the poor are going to lose out. So it's not a surprise the less successful countries are worse off and Germany, etc., are pretending to be helping them and so forth.

[Richard Jernigan]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 11:10:52 AM UTC-6, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>
>
>
> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
>
> 2) Mercury goes retrograde in Scorpio with Rahu.
>
> 3) All Benefic planets are weak.
>
> 4) Moon is in the Birthstar of Ashlesha - a harsh Birthstar.
>
> 5) Sun & Venus are both debilitated which further weakens the Sun.
>
>
>
> The planets are all stressed out this week. Venus & Sun are both debilitated, Mercury is afflicted by Rahu and Mars in Scorpio, Jupiter is retrograde, and exalted Saturn is with his nemesis the Sun. Propitiate the planets to help you remain patient and calm in the storm's eye.
>
>
>
> President Barack Obama’s birth chart is quite strong and the transits are more favorable for him on election day.
>
> 1) Exalted Moon in birth chart makes Obama charismatic and likable.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Saturn, is now exalted in his 10th house of career.
>
> 3) He is now running Saturn which activates a powerful yoga and it is exalted.
>
>
>
> Challenger Mitt Romney's birth chart is even stronger, especially in terms of finances but the transits are not very favorable for him on the day of the election.
>
> 1) Powerful 10th house Sun gives Romney charisma but debilitated Moon makes him appear cold.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Venus, is now debilitated in his 5th house of luck.
>
> 3) He is now running Sun which activates a powerful yoga but it is currently debilitated.
>
> 4) Romney's current planetary cycles are more in-line with the US chart than Obama's.
>
>
>
> The 1776 USA chart shows the US is in a Mars period and Mars is in Gemini, a very changeable sign. So undecided US voters are likely to make a change for change sake.
>
>
>
> Prediction: It will be a very close race. The day will start off in Barack Obama's favor but by late afternoon as Mercury goes retrograde, the tide will turn in favor for Romney. It may take several days for a winner to be announced. When the dust settles, my prediction is that Mitt Romney will win the 2012 US presidential election.

Thank you Tashi. At last we have a political analysis more factual and cogent than either Fox News or MSNBC.

RNJ

[Jonathan]

A return to polytheism.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

I quite confident Both Fox and NBC, will prove my predictions correct, but thanks for your kind complement, Richard.

[Gerry]

On 2012-11-06 18:22:09 +0000, dewach...@gmail.com said:

> I quite confident Both Fox and NBC, will prove my predictions correct...d

If Obama wins, the Fox analysis will still be that Romney won, so it
will likely support your prediction no matter what happens.

[Dick Cheney]

I'd say it's on par

[Alphonsus Jr.]

He forgot the morons at CNN.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Well then, just tune in to CNN to get the real truth if you like.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Forgive me, I responded before I read your post.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Gold and silver are skyrocketing today, looks like those in the know think Obama will win. If Romney wins Gold and silver will tank big time.

[Gerry]

On 2012-11-06 21:33:58 +0000, dewach...@gmail.com said:

> On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:51:41 AM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:
>> On 2012-11-06 18:22:09 +0000, dewach...@gmail.com said:
>>
>>> I quite confident Both Fox and NBC, will prove my predictions correct...d
>>
>> If Obama wins, the Fox analysis will still be that Romney won, so it
>> will likely support your prediction no matter what happens.
>

> Well then, just tune in to CNN to get the real truth if you like.

Will do! I get my news from journalists, not op-ed shows (MSNBC) or the
party machine (FOX).

[Dick Cheney]

why would that be do you think?

[Gerry]

On 2012-11-06 22:01:57 +0000, Dick Cheney said:

>> Gold and silver are skyrocketing today, looks like those in the know
>> think Obama will win.  If Romney wins Gold and silver will tank big
>> time.
>
> why would that be do you think?

Read Revelations, and it will all become clear.

[Dick Cheney]

go back to the drachma, wipe out their debt and clean up their
political system (reform their entitlements and collect their taxes)

[Richard Jernigan]

On Nov 6, 3:52 pm, Gerry <addr...@domain.com> wrote:

> > On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:51:41 AM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:

>

> Will do! I get my news from journalists <snip>

Wheere on earth do you find them? I thought they had gone extinct.

RNJ

[Gerry]

Almost everywhere actually, mostly newspapers and TV, with a little
radio (NPR). It's where you don't find them that makes the biggest
stench: Fox and Clear Channel.

In the end there is journalism (which periodically has its
inconsistencies but has no real bias outside the op-ed page) and then
there is partisan PR and agitprop.

This concept of "liberal media" has been applied to anything that isn't
Republcian PR and agitprop. But they've hammered it so hard for so many
years that a lot of uneducated people believe in the concept.

[thomas]

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 7:51:23 PM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
>
> > Wheere on earth do you find them? I thought they had gone extinct.
>
>
>
> Almost everywhere actually, mostly newspapers and TV, with a little radio (NPR). It's where you don't find them that makes the biggest stench: Fox and Clear Channel.
>

On Monday I watched "The Hate that Hate Produced" on youtube. It's a 1958 tv documentary on Nation of Islam by Mike Wallace. It's been a long time since I saw journalism like that on tv. I think American culture in that era--late 50s to early 60s--was far more urbane and adult than any time since.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 10:10:52 AM UTC-7, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>
>
>
> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
>
> 2) Mercury goes retrograde in Scorpio with Rahu.
>
> 3) All Benefic planets are weak.
>
> 4) Moon is in the Birthstar of Ashlesha - a harsh Birthstar.
>
> 5) Sun & Venus are both debilitated which further weakens the Sun.
>
>
>
> The planets are all stressed out this week. Venus & Sun are both debilitated, Mercury is afflicted by Rahu and Mars in Scorpio, Jupiter is retrograde, and exalted Saturn is with his nemesis the Sun. Propitiate the planets to help you remain patient and calm in the storm's eye.
>
>
>
> President Barack Obama’s birth chart is quite strong and the transits are more favorable for him on election day.
>
> 1) Exalted Moon in birth chart makes Obama charismatic and likable.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Saturn, is now exalted in his 10th house of career.
>
> 3) He is now running Saturn which activates a powerful yoga and it is exalted.
>
>
>
> Challenger Mitt Romney's birth chart is even stronger, especially in terms of finances but the transits are not very favorable for him on the day of the election.
>
> 1) Powerful 10th house Sun gives Romney charisma but debilitated Moon makes him appear cold.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Venus, is now debilitated in his 5th house of luck.
>
> 3) He is now running Sun which activates a powerful yoga but it is currently debilitated.
>
> 4) Romney's current planetary cycles are more in-line with the US chart than Obama's.
>
>
>
> The 1776 USA chart shows the US is in a Mars period and Mars is in Gemini, a very changeable sign. So undecided US voters are likely to make a change for change sake.
>
>
>
> Prediction: It will be a very close race. The day will start off in Barack Obama's favor but by late afternoon as Mercury goes retrograde, the tide will turn in favor for Romney. It may take several days for a winner to be announced. When the dust settles, my prediction is that Mitt Romney will win the 2012 US presidential election.

Well it's simple really, if Romney wins he will initiate austerity measures which will strengthen the dollar, when the dollar is strong gold goes down. If Obama wins they will print money left and right, which will devalue the dollar, and gold goes up.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 3:58:37 PM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:
> On 2012-11-06 22:01:57 +0000, Dick Cheney said:
>
>
>
> >> Gold and silver are skyrocketing today, looks like those in the know
>

> >> think Obama will win. �If Romney wins Gold and silver will tank big

>
> >> time.
>
> >
>
> > why would that be do you think?
>
>
>
> Read Revelations, and it will all become clear.
>
> --
>
> Music is the best means we have of digesting time. -- W. H. Auden

Can you be more precise please?

[Dick Cheney]

Let me clean this up ( I had to run to watch the election being
called):

To the contrary, Romney would reduce revenue and increase spending on
the military.
BTW, In the situation we're in, austerity, works as well to balance
the budget as
astrology works to predict elections.
Looks like I missed Florida- I chickened out, I 'm afraid

[Gerry]

On 2012-11-07 03:17:50 +0000, dewach...@gmail.com said:

>> Read Revelations, and it will all become clear.
>

> Can you be more precise please?

No. Revelations is just a grab bag where you can come up with
anything. It's like "look it up--it's online!" That kind of thing.

[Fadosolrélamisi]

On Monday, November 5, 2012 9:10:52 AM UTC-8, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>
>
>
> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
>
> 2) Mercury goes retrograde in Scorpio with Rahu.
>
> 3) All Benefic planets are weak.
>
> 4) Moon is in the Birthstar of Ashlesha - a harsh Birthstar.
>
> 5) Sun & Venus are both debilitated which further weakens the Sun.
>
>
>
> The planets are all stressed out this week. Venus & Sun are both debilitated, Mercury is afflicted by Rahu and Mars in Scorpio, Jupiter is retrograde, and exalted Saturn is with his nemesis the Sun. Propitiate the planets to help you remain patient and calm in the storm's eye.
>
>
>
> President Barack Obama’s birth chart is quite strong and the transits are more favorable for him on election day.
>
> 1) Exalted Moon in birth chart makes Obama charismatic and likable.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Saturn, is now exalted in his 10th house of career.
>
> 3) He is now running Saturn which activates a powerful yoga and it is exalted.
>
>
>
> Challenger Mitt Romney's birth chart is even stronger, especially in terms of finances but the transits are not very favorable for him on the day of the election.
>
> 1) Powerful 10th house Sun gives Romney charisma but debilitated Moon makes him appear cold.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Venus, is now debilitated in his 5th house of luck.
>
> 3) He is now running Sun which activates a powerful yoga but it is currently debilitated.
>
> 4) Romney's current planetary cycles are more in-line with the US chart than Obama's.
>
>
>
> The 1776 USA chart shows the US is in a Mars period and Mars is in Gemini, a very changeable sign. So undecided US voters are likely to make a change for change sake.
>
>
>
> Prediction: It will be a very close race. The day will start off in Barack Obama's favor but by late afternoon as Mercury goes retrograde, the tide will turn in favor for Romney. It may take several days for a winner to be announced. When the dust settles, my prediction is that Mitt Romney will win the 2012 US presidential election.

Ok! That's one failed prediction ...now ... are you still holding up to the 2012 end of the world one? I'm asking because I know a good Korean talking elephant which predictions are 99.9% accurate, I could arrange for you to "Mitt" him.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

You got that all ass backwards....... I'm shocked you of all people don't understand economics 101. Spending money on the military bullshit........ ha ha! you don't know shite!

It ain't over until the fat lady sings....... I'm still predicting a Romney victory!

[dewach...@gmail.com]

> To the contrary, Romney would reduce revenue and increase spending on
>
> the military.

Yea that explains a weak dollar alright! Wolli, you need to get out and about!

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Gotcha!

[Dick Cheney]

actually, it's pretty damn strong right now

[Dick Cheney]

actually it's in the fourth week of econ 101. You should get a book
like Matt did

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Allen, are you hallucinating once again, I've never said 2012 is the end of the world. I still predict a Romney win.... just wait and see.......... damn, I feel like Karl Rove!

[Dick Cheney]

On Nov 6, 11:07 pm, dewachen1...@gmail.com wrote:

So is Carl Rove, last time I turned on Fox! too funny.. It was like
watching Hitler in the Bunker. He sent that Megan chick down stairs to
chew out the wonks at fox that has in the basement.

[Dick Cheney]

On Nov 6, 11:07 pm, dewachen1...@gmail.com wrote:

I wonder if Romney's going to send one of his kids out to give his
speech in Spanish?

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Yea, especially when the Euro is about to crash. But, if the dollar is so strong as you say, why then is gold at $1750 an ounce, compared to 2006 when gold was $500 an ounce? Gold has always reflected the true value of the dollar.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

I did read Ravi Batra's "the coming golden age", that pretty much covered it.

[Dick Cheney]

gold is a commodity, not a currency, and no it has nothing to do with
the value of the dollar.

[dewach...@gmail.com]

Hey don't underestimate Karl Rove he has his fingers on the pulse of corruption, something up and he knows it. However I'm not basing my prediction on Karl Rove's ideas, rather on astrology, and Mercury going retrograde.

[dsi1]

On 11/5/2012 7:10 AM, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>
> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)

And a fun time was had by all - see you in 2016!

[Jonathan]

I think the Tea Party may have done irreparable damage to the Republican party. It now seems pretty clear that white males cannot deliver a presidential election, and they have alienated the hell out of women and minorities.
We may not see another Republican president for a long, long time.

[Juan Anonly]

Oh really? If we *really* had a strong dollar then we wouldn't be able
to fill the radio-heads with fear and loathing, and use them for
political action. That's why Lord Rush tells us every good report is
actually bad and every bad report is actually worse.

The goal is fear and loathing and loss of consumer confidence, not
reality! Reality hardly garners a pinch of fear and loathing!
--
-- Beware the delicate, tiny, very talented celebrity starlets.

[Juan Anonly]

On 2012-11-07 05:41:22 +0000, dewach...@gmail.com said:

> Yea, especially when the Euro is about to crash. But, if the dollar is
> so strong as you say, why then is gold at $1750 an ounce, compared to
> 2006 when gold was $500 an ounce? Gold has always reflected the true
> value of the dollar.

For the same reason that Nike shoes are overpriced by 300 to 400 percent:

MARKETING!

[Juan Anonly]

You've missed the modern realities of fascist radio and Fox TV. The
mid-term elections and the 2016 election begin NOW!

There is a LOT of airtime to fill.

The first significant rallies for the tea party were in mid-February of
2009. There were twelve by the end of that month, all over the US.
Obama had been in office for about a month and they were FED UP with
the deficit, the stimulus plan, the bailouts, and any attempt to
correct the results of 8 years of Bush rule.

After ONE MONTH of Obama!

Two years later their tea-bagging candidates had managed to commandeer
87 seats in congress. 55 of these had lobbists as their chiefs of
staff because they didn't really know anything about the how to do the
job they were elected to do. And of course the lobbists could "help"
them in the details of the job real nice.

[David Raleigh Arnold]

On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:09:06 -0800, Alphonsus Jr. wrote:

> The really amazing thing is that if Romney wins, most will think that a
> conservative has won. The following line would be utterly
> incomprehensible to them: "A DEMOCRAT of the 1950s would view today’s
> 'conservative' Republican as a liberal savage."

Today's "conservative" believes in "the least govt..." That
is anarchism.

Today's "conservative" believes that "corporations are
people, my friend." (Willard Mitt Romney) That is
fascism.

Today's "conservative" occupies both extremes of the
nutcase "political spectrum" at the same time! Tnere
is *nothing* conservative about these people.

[dsi1]

On 11/7/2012 6:48 AM, Juan Anonly wrote:
> On 2012-11-07 05:52:06 +0000, dsi1 said:
>
>> On 11/5/2012 7:10 AM, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the
>>> components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>>>
>>> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
>>
>>
>> And a fun time was had by all - see you in 2016!
>
> You've missed the modern realities of fascist radio and Fox TV. The
> mid-term elections and the 2016 election begin NOW!

Fox News is the most successful reality TV show in history. The problem
is that people think it's really-reality. The modern reality is that we
now have to qualify reality.

>
> There is a LOT of airtime to fill.

They're pros at filling airtime with candy for the eyes and ears and
minds. We see the shiny things on TV and we're mesmerized.

>
> The first significant rallies for the tea party were in mid-February of
> 2009. There were twelve by the end of that month, all over the US. Obama
> had been in office for about a month and they were FED UP with the
> deficit, the stimulus plan, the bailouts, and any attempt to correct the
> results of 8 years of Bush rule.
>
> After ONE MONTH of Obama!
>
> Two years later their tea-bagging candidates had managed to commandeer
> 87 seats in congress. 55 of these had lobbists as their chiefs of staff
> because they didn't really know anything about the how to do the job
> they were elected to do. And of course the lobbists could "help" them
> in the details of the job real nice.

If you're saying that the fun has just begun, I sure hope you're right.

[thomas]

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:37:35 AM UTC-5, Juan Anonly wrote:
> On 2012-11-07 05:41:22 +0000, dewach...@gmail.com said:
>
>
>
> > Yea, especially when the Euro is about to crash. But, if the dollar is
>
> > so strong as you say, why then is gold at $1750 an ounce, compared to
>
> > 2006 when gold was $500 an ounce? Gold has always reflected the true
>
> > value of the dollar.

So, all those folks waiting in line to buy gas after Sandy brought their gold with them, right? Because that's the only currency 7-11 will take in a post-apocalyptic scenario.

[wollybird]

On Nov 7, 2:28 pm, thomas <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:37:35 AM UTC-5, Juan Anonly wrote:

> > On 2012-11-07 05:41:22 +0000, dewachen1...@gmail.com said:
>
> > > Yea, especially when the Euro is about to crash.  But, if the dollar is
>
> > > so strong as you say, why then is gold at $1750 an ounce, compared to
>
> > > 2006 when gold was $500 an ounce?  Gold has always reflected the true
>
> > > value of the dollar.
>
> So, all those folks waiting in line to buy gas after Sandy brought their gold with them, right? Because that's the only currency 7-11 will take in a post-apocalyptic scenario.

and nothing makes a post apocalypse dystopian world go down better
than a slurpie

[dsi1]

On 11/7/2012 11:02 AM, wollybird wrote:
> and nothing makes a post apocalypse dystopian world go down better
> than a slurpie
>

You got that right. That sounds great! The hell with gold. When the shit
hits the fan, people will kill for those things that they now turn their
noses up to - Spam, Twinkies, canned asparagus, Vienna sausage, Blue
Raspberry Rush Slurpee. Actually, I'd kill now for a Blue Raspberry Rush
Slurpee but I haven't seen one of those since the kids grewed up and my
diabetes kicked in. You might say that I am living in a post-apocalypse
world.

[Jonathan]

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 12:49:00 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/7/2012 6:48 AM, Juan Anonly wrote:
>
> > On 2012-11-07 05:52:06 +0000, dsi1 said:
>
> >
>
> >> On 11/5/2012 7:10 AM, dewach...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the
>
> >>> components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> And a fun time was had by all - see you in 2016!
>
> >
>
> > You've missed the modern realities of fascist radio and Fox TV. The
>
> > mid-term elections and the 2016 election begin NOW!
>
>
>
> Fox News is the most successful reality TV show in history. The problem
>
> is that people think it's really-reality. The modern reality is that we
>
> now have to qualify reality.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > There is a LOT of airtime to fill.
>
>
>
> They're pros at filling airtime with candy for the eyes and ears and
>
> minds. We see the shiny things on TV and we're mesmerized.
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality

[dsi1]

Shiny!

[David Raleigh Arnold]

On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:36:22 -0800, Cactus Wren wrote:

> Unfortunately, that's too complicated an argument for most. I was
> playing for a cocktail hour and heard one of the well-heeled attendees
> blather that cutting foreign aid was the first and most important step
> to solving all of the USA's problems.

What foreign aid? Regards, daveA

--
Guitar teaching materials and original music for all styles and levels.
Site: http://www.openguitar.com (()) eMail: d.raleig...@gmail.com
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[Gerry]

On 2012-11-13 01:48:14 +0000, David Raleigh Arnold said:

> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:36:22 -0800, Cactus Wren wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, that's too complicated an argument for most. I was
>> playing for a cocktail hour and heard one of the well-heeled attendees
>> blather that cutting foreign aid was the first and most important step
>> to solving all of the USA's problems.
>
> What foreign aid?

The problem-solving kind.

To get a really cogent explanation you'd have to go find a well-heeled
attendee of a cocktail hour. Shouldn't be too tough.

[Benoit Meulle-Stef]

Le lundi 5 novembre 2012 18:10:52 UTC+1, dewach...@gmail.com a écrit :
> This will not be a normal US Presidential Election. It has all the components to be a Destiny changing day for the US.
>
>
>
> 1) It is an 8th Waning Moon Day - (Deep Transformation)
>

> 2) Mercury goes retrograde in Scorpio with Rahu.
>
> 3) All Benefic planets are weak.
>
> 4) Moon is in the Birthstar of Ashlesha - a harsh Birthstar.
>
> 5) Sun & Venus are both debilitated which further weakens the Sun.
>
>
>
> The planets are all stressed out this week. Venus & Sun are both debilitated, Mercury is afflicted by Rahu and Mars in Scorpio, Jupiter is retrograde, and exalted Saturn is with his nemesis the Sun. Propitiate the planets to help you remain patient and calm in the storm's eye.
>
>
>
> President Barack Obama’s birth chart is quite strong and the transits are more favorable for him on election day.
>
> 1) Exalted Moon in birth chart makes Obama charismatic and likable.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Saturn, is now exalted in his 10th house of career.
>
> 3) He is now running Saturn which activates a powerful yoga and it is exalted.
>
>
>
> Challenger Mitt Romney's birth chart is even stronger, especially in terms of finances but the transits are not very favorable for him on the day of the election.
>
> 1) Powerful 10th house Sun gives Romney charisma but debilitated Moon makes him appear cold.
>
> 2) The planet that rules his 1st house Venus, is now debilitated in his 5th house of luck.
>
> 3) He is now running Sun which activates a powerful yoga but it is currently debilitated.
>
> 4) Romney's current planetary cycles are more in-line with the US chart than Obama's.
>
>
>
> The 1776 USA chart shows the US is in a Mars period and Mars is in Gemini, a very changeable sign. So undecided US voters are likely to make a change for change sake.
>
>
>
> Prediction: It will be a very close race. The day will start off in Barack Obama's favor but by late afternoon as Mercury goes retrograde, the tide will turn in favor for Romney. It may take several days for a winner to be announced. When the dust settles, my prediction is that Mitt Romney will win the 2012 US presidential election.

Well apparently your predictions, as usual, are wrong....

Benoit

[Cactus Wren]

What's foreign aid? You know, deploying cash to prop up dictators and otherwise encourage situations amenable to US elite commmercial and strategic interests, and other humanitarian things like that. Gotta cut that PC, liberal stuff and be "fiscally responsible"!

[Guitarzan]

I've only made one prediction, so how can they all be wrong? BTW, I
still stand by my prediction, time will tell.

[Gerry]

On 2012-11-13 14:25:18 +0000, Cactus Wren said:

> What's foreign aid? You know, deploying cash to prop up dictators and
> otherwise encourage situations amenable to US elite commmercial and
> strategic interests, and other humanitarian things like that. Gotta
> cut that PC, liberal stuff and be "fiscally responsible"!

Well that's the most notable. But parking 50,000 troops in Japan to act
as their army, should they be needed anytime over the past 50 years is
a conspicuous foreign aid (also called "continued occupaton") that
we've pay a staggering amount for. 50,000 troops sitting on their tush
and playing solitaire. All for the glory of American Liberty!

Repeat the above paragraph for half a dozen other countries.