Modern Art
Reza Ganjavi
that. Our subject matter was the person behind the mask."
--ROBERT MOTHERWELL
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John Wasak
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Yes, but how does this quote pertain to the guitar or music? Music has
always been the most abstract art. In real terms, modern music is no more
abstract than ancient music.
jw
Angelo Gilardino
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> Reza Ganjavi <gan...@dtc.ch> wrote in message
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> > "Most painting in the European tradition was painting the mask. Modern
art
> rejected all
> > that. Our subject matter was the person behind the mask."
> >
> > --ROBERT MOTHERWELL
He needs visiting European museums with a good pair of glasses.
AG
Reza Ganjavi
What does painting have to do with guitar and music? Art is art :-)
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Derek Zoolander
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Roman Turovsky
>> art
>>> rejected all
>>>> that. Our subject matter was the person behind the mask."
>>>>
>>>> --ROBERT MOTHERWELL
>> He needs visiting European museums with a good pair of glasses.
>>
>> AG
Western Art.
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John Wasak
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Oh, I don't know...Motherwell's okay. I think I know what he's getting at
in the quote - to some degree he's right. I mean, if you look at, let's
say, Gainsborough's "Blue Boy" there really isn't a lot of Gainsborough's
inner self in the painting. Motherwell is obviously referring to the
Abstract Expressionists in his quote and there _was_ much made by those guys
that you paint yourself in the abstractions. Of course, there is the
degreee in which Motherwell's wrong - one need only to look at, say, an
artist like El Greco setting the stamp of his own individual angular
intensity upon his work to see that El Greco, as well as many other artists,
painted themselves in their paintings long before the New York School of
Abstract Expressionists.
Now, if ya' wanna' talk about largest frauds in Western Art...probably no
one larger than Andy Warhol.
jw
John Wasak
> I don't know -- I thought it was an interesting observation however
inaccurate it maybe.
> What does painting have to do with guitar and music? Art is art :-)
>
It isn't so much what does painting have to do with music, and, sure, bottom
line 'Art is Art', but it's - where and how can Motherwell's quote be
applied in Western Art music? That's what I'm wondering.
jw
Alain Reiher
trying to stain the Art history carpet around the place were Rrose c'est la
Vie had just left a wide open door ...The real fraud of the 20th century was
this guy named Hans Van Meegeren ...
Alain
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rtmca
> Reza Ganjavi <gan...@dtc.ch> wrote in message
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> > I don't know -- I thought it was an interesting observation however
> inaccurate it maybe.
> > What does painting have to do with guitar and music? Art is art :-)
> >
>
> It isn't so much what does painting have to do with music, and, sure, bottom
> line 'Art is Art', but it's - where and how can Motherwell's quote be
> applied in Western Art music? That's what I'm wondering.
>
Perhaps "The Mask" might be programatic music, ala Wagner, and behind
the music might be 'pure music," ala Bach.
Just a speculation. Robert
John Wasak
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Yeah, I guess that's a possibility. I suppose opera would fall in with that
idea as well. But, too, let's not forget that Bach was not wholly 'pure
music'...he did all those Cantatas, Oratorios, Passions, Masses, etc. in
which the music was often intended to underscore the text.
jw