Classical CDs for Sale
Jeff Gower
CDs FOR SALE
(postage $1.50 for 1st CD, and $0.50 each thereafter)
jgo...@mtholyoke.edu
Michael Tork - Music on the Floor (Zagrosek) (Argo) $8
Tippett conducts Tippett - Symphonies 2 and 4 (Tippett) (BBC) $4
Elgar/Walton - Cello Concerti (Ma, Previn) (Sony) $7
Bartok - 3 Piano Concerti (Donohoe, Rattle) (EMI) $7
Mahler - Das Lied Von Der Erde (Fassbaender, Araiza, Giulini) (DG) $7
Beethoven/Dvorak - Piano Trios (BBC) $2
Smetana - The Bartered Bride highlights (Kosler) (BBC) $2
Berlioz - Symphonie fantastique (Davis) (BBC) $2
Beethoven/Schubert - Eroica and Unfinished symphonies (Kovacevich,
Herbig) (BBC) $2
Mahler - 10th Symphony/Cooke (Wigglesworth) (BBC) $4
Martinu - 6th Symphony, Les Fresques, Mem.Lidice, Vigilie (Valek)
(Praga) $7
Nabokov/Levitin/B.Tchaikovsky - Cello Works (Rostropovich)
(intaglio) $4
Schubert - 9th Symphony (Yuasa) (BBC) $2
Rachmaninoff - 2nd Symphony (Downes) (BBC) $3
Hindemith - Mathis der Maler symphony, Symph.Metamorph.Weber, etc.
(Sawallisch) (EMI) $8
Bliss - Piano Concerto, March of Homage (Fowke, Atherton) (UK) $7
Handel - Arias (Battle, Marriner) (EMI) $5
Best CDs of 1994 sampler (BBC) Free with any other CD
Boulez at 70 Gramophone interview/sampler Free with any other CD
Suk - Asrael Symphony (Pesek) (Virgin) $7
Wagner - Tannhauser w/o Words (Maazel) (Sony) $4
Brahms - 1st Symphony, Hadyn Variations (Rahbari) (Naxos) $3
Beethoven/Brahms - Pastoral and 2nd symphonies (Boult, Pritchard) (BBC) $2
The Concerto sampler - Corelli, Vivaldi, Bach, Beethoven (BBC) Free with any
other CD
Sibelius - 1st Symphony, Karelia suite (Ashkenazy) (London) $7
Reich - Tehillim (ECM) $8
Tippett - Concerto Double Strings, Fantasia Corelli, Songs for Dov (Tippett)
(Virgin) $7
Buller - Proenca, Theatre of Memory (Elder) (UK) $7
Shostakovich - Violin and Viola sonatas (Mintz, Postnikova) (Erato) $7
Bartok - 2 Violin Concertos (Midori, Mehta) (Sony) $7
Shostakovich/Poulenc - Piano Concertos (Previn, Gold, Fizdale, Bernstein)
(Sony) $7
Walton/Britten - Violin Concertos (Haendel, Berglund) (EMI) $7
Isben - American Landscapes (Corigliano, Schwantner, Foss - guitar concerti)
(Virgin) $8
Kronos Quartet - Short Stories (Elektra Nonesuch) $4
Beethoven/Schubert - String Trios (Beethoven String Trio of London)
(BBC) $2
Sibelius/Walton - 2nd Symphonies (Maksymiuk, Brabbins) (BBC) $3
Stevenson - 2 Piano Concerti (McLachlan, Clayton) (Olympia) $7
VaughanWilliams - Greensleeves, Tallis, Lark, Dives, etc. (Wordsworth)
(Argo) $6
MacDowell - 2 Piano Concerti (Amato, Freeman) (Olympia) $7
Louis Andriessen - De Stijl, M is for Man, etc. (de Leeuw, Hempel) (Elektra
Nonesuch) $7
Villa Lobos - Piano Works Vol. 2 (Heller) (Etcetera) $6
Brahms/Milhaud/VWilliams - Clarinet sonatas/works (Cohler) (BBC) $2
Wagner - Wesendonck Songs, Gotterdammerung scenes (Evans, Otaka)
(BBC) $2
Brian Duguid
jgo...@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (Jeff Gower) wrote to
rec.music.classical.contemporary:
>CDs FOR SALE
>[remainder deleted]
This newsgroup's Charter requests that sale lists of this sort are
*not* posted here. The charter follows ...
CHARTER: rec.music.classical.contemporary
Rec.music.classical.contemporary shall provide a forum for the
discussion of all issues relating to contemporary classical music.
For the purposes of this group, "classical music" is considered to
include all music composed in a recognizably classical tradition
(i.e. use of written score, tendency to be performed by persons other
than the composer) or which owes a heavy debt to that tradition
(e.g. the experiments with non-notated scores and improvisation by
Cage, Stockhausen et al).
For the purposes of this group, "contemporary" is considered to
generally refer to the most recent 50 years, but not to exclude music
composed prior to that which is part of the modern classical
tradition e.g. serialism, Debussy, Russolo.
Such topics include, but are not limited to, the following:
1) Contemporary classical composers, works, performances and
recordings.
2) Musical styles such as serialism, post-serialism, electronic and
tape music, musique concrete, minimalism, "new complexity",
computer music, etc.
3) Reviews, discographies, requests for information etc.
4) Politics of contemporary classical music, also the interface
between the area and other fields such as philosophy, sociology,
cybernetics etc.
5) Relationship between the area and other fields of contemporary
art e.g. visual art, dance.
6) The influence of contemporary classical genres (e.g. minimalism,
musique concrete) on other types of music (e.g. rock, dance).
7) Labels specializing in this area of music.
8) Books, magazines, Internet resources relevant to this area of
music.
Commercial postings are acceptable on rec.music.classical, providing
that they are relevant to the above topics, kept as brief as possible,
and only posted once. Lists of recordings for sale, whether by
private
sale or by shop, mail-order etc, are not acceptable. A brief pointer
describing where such a list or catalogue is available, would be
acceptable. Postings likely to be of regular interest (e.g. a brief
pointer to a label's web site) may be posted more than once, but not
more often than once per calendar month, and not at all if the
information is already posted regularly in some other form e.g. a
Frequently Asked Questions posting.
Commercial postings relevant to other areas of music (e.g. mail-order
details for a business covering numerous styles of music) should *not*
be posted to this group.
Issues relating to the composition of contemporary classical music
should be discussed in rec.music.compose. Discussions should only be
posted or cross-posted to rec.music.classical.contemporary where they
relate to issues of interest to general listeners e.g. a discussion of
notation software would not be appropriate, but a discussion of
whether stochastic or aleatoric composition results in more
'entertaining' music would be.
Issues relating to the performance of contemporary classical music
should be discussed in rec.music.classical.performing. Discussions
should only be posted or cross-posted to
rec.music.classical.contemporary where they are especially relevant to
the "contemporary" element and likely to be of interest to listeners
as well as performers e.g. a discussion of the freedom given by
composers like Cage and Feldman to their performers would be relevant.
A discussion on where to buy clarinets would not.
Neither the group proponent nor any posters to
rec.music.classical.contemporary shall be held responsible for the
accuracy of articles posted therein. Opinions expressed are those of
the authors alone.
END CHARTER.
Brian Duguid B...@mm-croy.mottmac.com
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Duguid, Brian
Jeff Gower {jgo...@mhc.mtholyoke.edu} wrote:
> Hello Mr. Duguid. I am sorry to burst your authoritative bubble
> here, but please know that I have no concern for either what you
> think or what some "charter" states regarding this PUBLIC newsgroup.
If you'd bothered to read what I posted ("This newsgroup's Charter
requests that sale lists of this sort are *not* posted here. The charter
follows ..."), you might have noticed that I didn't express any
"authoritative" opinion whatsoever. And for someone who supposedly has no
concern what I think, you sure wrote a lot in response to it.
> Let me say that I appreciate all the efforts made by individuals to
> get this group initiated, and that I enjoy the group and make
> frequent contributions to the group of a more "acceptable" nature
> (discussions, responses to queries, etc.). But I feel no hesitation
> in posting the occassional "for sale" message if it contains items of
> interest to 20th century music enthusiasts - in fact, I have had
> several responses from readers of this newsgroup who indeed are
> interested in these items. I am sorry if that bothers you, but this
> is, again, a PUBLIC newsgroup, regardless of who initiated it. If
> you want a more rigidly moderated forum, I suggest a moderated
> mailing list, over which you could rule as you like. But by
> initiating a PUBLIC newsgroup, you must understand that neither your
> (or my) opinions about what "should" or "should not" be posted are of
> any practical consequence - that is the nature of such a forum.
To keep this short: the Charter reflects what people wanted this group to
include at the time it was voted on. It wasn't a controversial charter in
any way. I have no opinion on whether or not you should or should not
follow it: I just think it should be reposted occasionally so that
newcomers to the group can see what people originally wanted. If they're
not interested, fine. Most of them don't seem to get quite so heated up
about it as yourself, though.
Big kisses,
Brian Duguid B...@mm-croy.mottmac.com
G. Jeffrey Gower
Mr. Duguid emailed me PERSONALLY after I posted my "For Sale" notice,
telling me that such postings were "not acceptable" in this forum, after
which he included a copy of the charter. I responded to him PERSONALLY
by email - since he has decided to post my PERSONAL response to everyone
here, you all know what I told him. Apparently Mr. Duguid is not so much
concerned with inappropriate postings "cluttering" up the newsgroup
(otherwise he would not have posted our PERSONAL email discussion here) as
he is with being just what I referred to him as: someone who enjoys
playing Mr. Authority and being a newsgroup despot. I am now going to
respond again to Mr. Duguid PERSONALLY, and I apologize in advance if he
again displays his lack of character and posts our PERSONAL exchange here.
Jeff
Brian Duguid
I'm afraid that I don't like inaccuracies to go unanswered:
"G. Jeffrey Gower" <jgo...@mtholyoke.edu> wrote:
>Mr. Duguid emailed me PERSONALLY after I posted my "For Sale" notice,
>telling me that such postings were "not acceptable" in this forum, after
>which he included a copy of the charter.
This is not the case. I wrote publicly to the group (and copied to
Jeff by eMail, since he had crossposted to several groups and I didn't
want to check whether he was a regular r.m.c.c reader): "This
newsgroup's Charter requests that sale lists of this sort are *not*
posted here."
I'm happy to apologise publicly for reposting Jeff's private eMail: I
mistakenly assumed that since I was posting to the group and cc-ing to
him, he was doing the same, and I should have checked. I'm still
impressed to see that Jeff seems unable to discuss the issue without
resorting to petty insults, however.
Love and kisses-