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SADIQ JAFER  
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 More options Aug 10 1995, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: SADIQ JAFER <102466.3...@CompuServe.COM>
Date: 1995/08/10
Subject: REAL FREEDOM
What is real freedom?

1 - Most of people believe that freedom is only
when there is no slavery or oppression of one human
over another.  Islam, although believes in this
concept, has a higher definition of freedom.  That
is freedom from slavery of your desires and
ambitions, and that is the worst slavery.  For
example, one may be the slave of money or sex or
power and he or she will commit all types of crimes
and oppressions because of this slavery.  The crime
ratio in US and Europe is higher than elsewhere
because of this type of slavery.  And
interestingly, most of the people in this type of
slavery do not know they are slaves.

2 - Is obedience a type of slavery?

If children obey their parents or students obey
there teachers or wives obey their husbands this
type of obedience is because of love.  So obedience
is nothing but real love.  And love is nothing but
obedience.  When a wife obeys her husband that is
because of love of Allah (God) and also because of
love of husband.  Because marriage is an agreement


 
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Bhakta Eric  
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 More options Aug 10 1995, 3:00 am
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From: Bhakta Eric <williams....@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: 1995/08/10
Subject: Re: REAL FREEDOM

SADIQ JAFER <102466.3...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>What is real freedom?

>1 - Most of people believe that freedom is only
>when there is no slavery or oppression of one human
>over another.  Islam, although believes in this
>concept, has a higher definition of freedom.  That
>is freedom from slavery of your desires and
>ambitions, and that is the worst slavery.

Are you sure?  What if my desire is to serve the
Lord with all of me?  Is that wrong simply
because it is a desire?  

>  For
>example, one may be the slave of money or sex or
>power and he or she will commit all types of crimes
>and oppressions because of this slavery.

Yes, now that is slavery.  Not exactly for the fact
that it is a desire, but because it Godless.  When
there is no God, there is slavery.

> The crime
>ratio in US and Europe is higher than elsewhere
>because of this type of slavery.

Good point.

> And
>interestingly, most of the people in this type of
>slavery do not know they are slaves.

Sort of a blind ignorance.  But who's to say that
you are not a slave?  You wouldn't know.

Me on the other hand.  i am a slave.  We must slave
to something.  So yes, I am a slave.  A slave to the
Supreme.  Actually a servant of the Supreme's servant.
It's called Das Anu Das, servant of the servant.

>2 - Is obedience a type of slavery?

>If children obey their parents or students obey
>there teachers or wives obey their husbands this
>type of obedience is because of love.  So obedience
>is nothing but real love.  And love is nothing but
>obedience.  When a wife obeys her husband that is
>because of love of Allah (God) and also because of
>love of husband.

I wish the rest of your article showed up.  This was
getting very interesting.

Haribol.

Bhakta Eric


 
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Matthew C. Laswell  
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 More options Aug 11 1995, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: mattla@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Matthew C. Laswell)
Date: 1995/08/11
Subject: Re: REAL FREEDOM

SADIQ JAFER (102466.3...@CompuServe.COM) wrote:
> What is real freedom?

That's easy!  Freedom was a White Heart album...

- matt l.
  mat...@comm.mot.com
  Not necessarily Motorola's opinion of real freedom.
  I'm pretty sure of Motorola's opinion of spam, though...


 
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Douglas C Pearson  
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 More options Aug 12 1995, 3:00 am
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From: dopea...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas C Pearson)
Date: 1995/08/12
Subject: Re: REAL FREEDOM
Matthew C. Laswell <mat...@comm.mot.com> wrote in response to SADIQ JAFER
(102466.3...@CompuServe.COM):

>> What is real freedom?

>That's easy!  Freedom was a White Heart album...

ROTFL...

i LOVE it when a spammer gets pulled on-topic.  8-)

chuck
--
chuck pearson - dopea...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
osu biophysics program, bio113 head ta, daddy of amelia catherine pearson.


 
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