C.S. Lewis references in music
Becky White
music for the past few years, but have finally gotten around to
doing something with it:
http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.htm
It includes the obvious, like Sixpence None the Richer's name, as
well as a few more obscure references to bands I've only heard
about.
If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
gaps, let me know.
Becky
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David Murray (SG Fan)
Becky White wrote in message
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>I've been compiling a mental list of C.S. Lewis references in
>music for the past few years, but have finally gotten around to
>doing something with it:
>
>http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.htm
>
>It includes the obvious, like Sixpence None the Richer's name, as
>well as a few more obscure references to bands I've only heard
>about.
>
>If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
>gaps, let me know.
Dawn Treader Music - - - This was (and still is, maybe?) the name of Bob
Hartman's publishing company. It appears often Petra liner notes. I'm not
familiar with a band by that name, but it's very likely that one has existed
at some point or another.
I have _The Roar Of Love_ by 2nd Chapter of Acts. It was re-released in
1999. Exactly how much info do you want? I can give you song titles, etc.
David Bruce Murray / dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net
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Making hay while the sun shines.
Andrew D. Taylor
David Murray (SG Fan) <dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
> >gaps, let me know.
>
>
> Dawn Treader Music - - - This was (and still is, maybe?) the name of Bob
> Hartman's publishing company. It appears often Petra liner notes. I'm not
> familiar with a band by that name, but it's very likely that one has
existed
> at some point or another.
Dawn Treader Music was a division of Star Song and it was more than just
Petra. As an example, every song on Bride's "Snakes In The Playground", a
Star Song album, is copyrighted 1992 Dawn Treader Music/SESAC (one has
another name on the copyright).
Wasn't there also a band called Narnia? I seem to recall hearing about 2.
And there might have been one called Aslan.
The quote of the day in my .sig file was lifted from the back cover of
Magdalen's The Dirt EP.
--
Andrew D. Taylor a...@renc.igs.net
http://www.renc.igs.net/~adt/
It's when we notice the dirt that God is most present to us.
- C.S. Lewis
Becky White
Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net> wrote:
>I have _The Roar Of Love_ by 2nd Chapter of Acts. It was
re-released in
>1999. Exactly how much info do you want? I can give you song
titles, etc.
I was e-mailed info on the track listing and have updated the
page to reflect that. Does anybody know when _The Roar of
Love_ was originally released?
Becky White
<a...@renc.igs.net> wrote:
>Wasn't there also a band called Narnia? I seem to recall
hearing about 2.
>And there might have been one called Aslan.
I found two named Aslan - one from the Jesus Movement era, and
another from Ireland in the 1980's.
>The quote of the day in my .sig file was lifted from the back
cover of
>Magdalen's The Dirt EP.
Lewis taught at Magdalen College, so I would wager that the band
name is related too.
VoxRob
Love_ was originally released?"
I'm going from memory, but 1980? It was actually recorded a couple of years
before that but was long delayed.
David Murray (SG Fan)
Becky White wrote in message
>In article <nFeF4.50614$17.10...@news4.giganews.com>, "David
>Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net> wrote:
>
>>I have _The Roar Of Love_ by 2nd Chapter of Acts. It was
>re-released in
>>1999. Exactly how much info do you want? I can give you song
>titles, etc.
>
>I was e-mailed info on the track listing and have updated the
>Love_ was originally released?
According to my re-issue's liner info, the original came out in 1976.
Gary
>
> Becky White wrote in message
> <13dce6c8...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com>...
> >In article <nFeF4.50614$17.10...@news4.giganews.com>, "David
> >Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net> wrote:
> >
> >>I have _The Roar Of Love_ by 2nd Chapter of Acts. It was re-released in
> >>1999. Exactly how much info do you want? I can give you song titles, etc.
> >
> > Love_ was originally released?
>
> According to my re-issue's liner info, the original came out in 1976.
No way. I was in college, and bought every one of their albums
immediately after release. It was recorded and intended for release
then, but legal issues regarding intellectual rights held it up until
1980. 1976 was probably when the album was produced. I can still
recall pulling into the parking lot of the fine arts building on
campus as I popped the tape into the player and heard the
opening piece on side one. Man I love 16th notes :-)
--
Gary R. Hook
________________________________________________________________________
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David Murray (SG Fan)
Gary wrote in message <38E63D3B...@texas.net>...
>"David Murray (SG Fan)" wrote:
>>
>> Becky White wrote in message
>> <13dce6c8...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com>...
>> >In article <nFeF4.50614$17.10...@news4.giganews.com>, "David
>> >Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have _The Roar Of Love_ by 2nd Chapter of Acts. It was re-released in
>> >>1999. Exactly how much info do you want? I can give you song titles,
etc.
>> >
>> > Does anybody know when _The Roar of
>> > Love_ was originally released?
>>
>> According to my re-issue's liner info, the original came out in 1976.
>
>No way. I was in college, and bought every one of their albums
>immediately after release. It was recorded and intended for release
>then, but legal issues regarding intellectual rights held it up until
>1980. 1976 was probably when the album was produced.
The notes say that _The Roar Of Love_ was "nine years in development." On
closer examination, though, the 1976 date for _The Roar Of Love_ has to be a
typo, since the individual songs are all listed with a copyright date of
1978.
The other recordings in the same "collector's series" are listed as:
_With Footnotes_: 1972-1974
_In The Volume Of The Book_: 1975
and Matthew Ward's _Toward Eternity_: 1976-1979
David Murray (SG Fan)
David Murray (SG Fan) wrote in message
>>> >In article <nFeF4.50614$17.10...@news4.giganews.com>, "David
>>> >Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>I have _The Roar Of Love_ by 2nd Chapter of Acts. It was re-released
in
>>> >>1999. Exactly how much info do you want? I can give you song titles,
>the 1976 date for _The Roar Of Love_ has to be a typo
And I demonstrated how easy it is to make typos up above where I wrote that
the re-issue came out in 1999. It should have read "1989."
Jeffrey
>If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
>gaps, let me know.
Jeffrey wrote:
I can't access your page to see if this is already on it, but Blaster the
Rocketman's new album, _The Monster That Ate Jesus_ ( Jackson Rubio Recordings
) they have about three songs dedicated to the Lewis' Space Trilogy. "Ransom
vs. the Un-Men" is the only one that pops in my mind now, maybe someone else
can help me out.
jeffrey
np bob dylan _blonde on blonde_
two spies
Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Jeffrey wrote:
>
> I can't access your page to see if this is already on it, but Blaster the
> Rocketman's new album, _The Monster That Ate Jesus_ ( Jackson Rubio Recordings
> ) they have about three songs dedicated to the Lewis' Space Trilogy. "Ransom
> vs. the Un-Men" is the only one that pops in my mind now, maybe someone else
> can help me out.
Those tracks would be:
-"Ransom vs. the Unman" (also features a quote from _That Hideous
Strength_ in the liners after the song)
-"Tundra Time on Thulcandra" (with a picture of the cover of _Out of the
Silent Planet_ next to the song lyrics)
-"Venus at St. Anne's" (quote by Lewis in place of lyrics)
WNeagle
>gaps, let me know.
Salem Hill has made two references to Lewis on their "Catatonia" album. The
first is in the song "Habit without Heart." The line is "and the mixing of
Lewis, Heinlein and Poe leave a pretty fine mess" Then in the next song on the
album, also called "Catatonia," the line says "and aslan is there and lazarus
long and the raven lone song."
WNeagle
likeness on the cover.
John Seney
on his second album, Love broke through. It's a poem written by C.S. Lewis.
I don't know if you have that on your list.
Becky White <beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:0c568f1c...@usw-ex0106-046.remarq.com...
> I've been compiling a mental list of C.S. Lewis references in
> music for the past few years, but have finally gotten around to
> doing something with it:
>
> http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.htm
>
> It includes the obvious, like Sixpence None the Richer's name, as
> well as a few more obscure references to bands I've only heard
> about.
>
> gaps, let me know.
>
jeromeo
"Batman Forever"... the FLY, aka Bono, reads CSLewis' Screwtape Letters.
the Prayer Chain song "Never Enough" from the Shawl album has a reference to
Screwtape Letters as well...
<shrug> just passing through...
j.
Tim Dunbar
> David Murray (SG Fan) wrote in message
>
> >>> >In article <nFeF4.50614$17.10...@news4.giganews.com>, "David
> >>> >Murray (SG Fan)" <dbmu...@deletethis.rfci.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>I have _The Roar Of Love_ by 2nd Chapter of Acts. It was re-released
> in
> >>> >>1999. Exactly how much info do you want? I can give you song titles,
>
> >the 1976 date for _The Roar Of Love_ has to be a typo
>
> And I demonstrated how easy it is to make typos up above where I wrote that
> the re-issue came out in 1999. It should have read "1989."
I have the original version in vinyl, and the copyright date for all the songs
is indeed 1978. However, IIRC, it actually came out after Matthew Ward's
_Towards Eternity_ album. I think 1980 might be a closer date.
Tim
Jeroen J.-W. Tiggelman
>Wasn't there also a band called Narnia?
I know of one ~progmetal/hardrock band of that
name with _very_ christian lyrics (I'll pass).
--
--Jeroen--------------------------------------------------
Tiggelman jtig...@casema.net (private)
Pete Juvinall
> http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.htm
I don't remember who mentioned in r.m.c, but isn't there also a band named Puddleglum out there as well (Puddleglum was a secondary character in, I believe, 'The Silver Chair'.
--pete
Jerry B. Ray, Jr.
Becky White <beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>The quote of the day in my .sig file was lifted from the back
>>cover of
>>Magdalen's The Dirt EP.
>Lewis taught at Magdalen College, so I would wager that the band
>name is related too.
Well, the band was originally formed by Ken Tamplin, who had a few
other Lewis references that I told you about. But the name of the
band was originally spelled "Magdellan," and only changed after a
few personnel changes (I think I'm getting this right, and if not
I'm sure somebody will correct me).
JRjr
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Peter Thomas Chattaway
: If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the gaps,
: let me know.
Phil Keaggy's instrumental album _Beyond Nature_ has a few songs that are
Lewisian in nature, I believe (`Addison's Walk', etc.).
The Waterboys sing `Further Up, Further In' on _Room to Roam_ (and I'd be
surprised if that was Mike Scott's only reference to C.S. Lewis in his
songs -- and `Wonders of Lewis' is about an island, so it doesn't count).
Terry Scott Taylor sings about the `Wood Between the Worlds' on one of his
first two solo albums (it's also on the _Glimpses of Grace_ compilation).
I don't think I've seen anybody mention King's X here yet; wasn't one of
their earlier albums called _Out of the Silent Planet_? I think Over the
Rhine had an album named _Till We Have Faces_, but I could be wrong.
--- Peter T. Chattaway ------------------------ pet...@interchg.ubc.ca ---
No man is an Island, entire of it self... -- John Donne, Meditation XVII
I am a little world made cunningly... -- John Donne, Holy Sonnet V
the nonconformist
Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in
> I don't think I've seen anybody mention King's X here yet; wasn't one of
> their earlier albums called _Out of the Silent Planet_?
YEp, their first, long OOP. After months of searching I found it, in
near-mint shape, at CD Warehouse, for $6. Woo-hoo!
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>
>
>
> Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in
>
> > I don't think I've seen anybody mention King's X here yet; wasn't one of
> > their earlier albums called _Out of the Silent Planet_?
>
> Yep, their first, long OOP. After months of searching I found it, in
> near-mint shape, at CD Warehouse, for $6. Woo-hoo!
Meant to mention also that there's a track called "Out of the Silent Planet"
on the second King's X disc _Gretchen Goes to Nebraska_
==== Josh Marihugh ==== NP: All Together Separate s/t
two spies
There's a record label called Puddleglum (or Puddlegum). They put out
Estis P@rc's last album.
Andrew D. Taylor
Jerry B. Ray, Jr. <vap...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote in message
news:8c82v8$b...@catapult.gatech.edu...
> Well, the band was originally formed by Ken Tamplin, who had a few
> other Lewis references that I told you about. But the name of the
> band was originally spelled "Magdellan," and only changed after a
> few personnel changes (I think I'm getting this right, and if not
> I'm sure somebody will correct me).
That sounds about correct. The biggest of the personnel changes was that
Ken Tamplin left. Lanny Cordola was left as the front man. I believe the
name change had legal reasons behind it.
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A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small package.
Chris Parks
<Pine.GSO.4.21.000402...@inch.interchange.ubc.ca>,
Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Becky White wrote:
> : If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the gaps,
> : let me know.
>
> Phil Keaggy's instrumental album _Beyond Nature_ has a few songs that are
> Lewisian in nature, I believe (`Addison's Walk', etc.).
The album title came from a Lewis essay. On of the songs was called
"Brother Jack."
> The Waterboys sing `Further Up, Further In' on _Room to Roam_ (and I'd be
Jacob's Trouble did a song by the same name on one of their ablums. The
lyrics were drawn directly from the Chronicles of Narnia.
> surprised if that was Mike Scott's only reference to C.S. Lewis in his
> songs -- and `Wonders of Lewis' is about an island, so it doesn't count).
>
> Terry Scott Taylor sings about the `Wood Between the Worlds' on one of his
> first two solo albums (it's also on the _Glimpses of Grace_ compilation).
>
> I don't think I've seen anybody mention King's X here yet; wasn't one of
> their earlier albums called _Out of the Silent Planet_? I think Over the
> Rhine had an album named _Till We Have Faces_, but I could be wrong.
i remembered the Kings X album...had forgotten about OTR
Peace,
chris
Bruce A. Brown
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> Reply-To: "the nonconformist" <christ...@MARLAyahoo.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 17:53:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: C.S. Lewis references in music
>
> Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in
>
>> I don't think I've seen anybody mention King's X here yet; wasn't one of
>> their earlier albums called _Out of the Silent Planet_?
>
> near-mint shape, at CD Warehouse, for $6. Woo-hoo!
I'd double-check that. It's an Atlantic budget disc, listed as in stock at
both CD Now and Amazon...
THORmonger
> If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
> gaps, let me know.
- globalwavesystem: Their "HypercriteP" EP (Flaming Fish Music, 1998)
has two songs based on "The Great Divorce," "Life and Works"
and "Fountain." Their page is down due to a move, but if you need
lyrics, I can get them for you.
- Circle of Dust: Their "Disengage" CD has two instrumental tracks on
it entitled "Perelandra" and "Thulcandra."
Hope that helps.
-Thor
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Before you buy.
Audio111
Jerry B. Ray, Jr.
Bruce A. Brown <fathe...@home.com> wrote:
>> YEp, their first, long OOP. After months of searching I found it, in
>> near-mint shape, at CD Warehouse, for $6. Woo-hoo!
>I'd double-check that. It's an Atlantic budget disc, listed as in stock at
>both CD Now and Amazon...
Yeah, I'd be really surprised if the first King's X disc was out of print,
too. It's certainly not hard to find, and the mainstream music industry
is a lot better at keeping stuff in print for longer than 4 months than
the CCM industry seems to be.
Jerry B. Ray, Jr.
Chris Parks <skr...@ONLYasapSPAMSTHEnet.nyet> wrote:
>Jacob's Trouble did a song by the same name on one of their ablums. The
>lyrics were drawn directly from the Chronicles of Narnia.
Unless Becky's removed stuff since I last checked, this is already listed
on her site, as were the various King's X and Over the Rhine references.
Becky White
vap...@prism.gatech.edu (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.) wrote:
>In article <020420002323127640%skr...@ONLYasapSPAMSTHEnet.nyet>,
>Chris Parks <skr...@ONLYasapSPAMSTHEnet.nyet> wrote:
>
>>Jacob's Trouble did a song by the same name on one of their
ablums. The
>>lyrics were drawn directly from the Chronicles of Narnia.
>
>Unless Becky's removed stuff since I last checked, this is
already listed
>on her site, as were the various King's X and Over the Rhine
references.
Yup, JR's correct - I already have most of those. Look here to
see what I've already got:
http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.html
Thanks to everyone who's added to my list. I didn't expect quite
so many new references, so I'm in the process of updating the
page to include everything mentioned here.
I'm looking for more info on these, if anyone can help:
--Specifically, what part of _Till We Have Faces_ did Chasing
Furies take their name from?
--Any info on bands named Narnia or Aslan?
--Is there a band called "The Marshwiggles?"
Thanks again for the help!
Peter Thomas Chattaway
references in Terry Taylor's music (solo or with Daniel Amos and Swirling
Eddies), particularly where William Blake, Frederick Buechner, Czeslaw
Milosz and Annie Dillard are concerned, check out:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/9560/tstaylor.html
Jerry B. Ray, Jr.
Becky White <beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>I'm looking for more info on these, if anyone can help:
>--Specifically, what part of _Till We Have Faces_ did Chasing
>Furies take their name from?
When I talked to the singer from Chasing Furies while wearing my
Over the Rhine _Patience_ shirt (which I'm wearing right now,
coincidentally), she told me that they took their name from
"Rhapsodie," an Over the Rhine song from _Patience_.
(There's a good bit more content at overtherhine.com now than
when I last checked, btw, including some MP3 downloads, including
"Rhapsodie.")
Also, you can glean a few bits of information about various bands
from Amazon.com, CDNow.com, UBL.com, etc. if you're willing to
look around a bit. I see from UBL.com that Narnia has a couple
of webpages devoted to them, for instance.
Michael A. Vickers
>>Well, the band was originally formed by Ken Tamplin, who had a few
>>other Lewis references that I told you about. But the name of the
>>band was originally spelled "Magdellan," and only changed after a
>>few personnel changes (I think I'm getting this right, and if not
>>I'm sure somebody will correct me).
>That sounds about correct. The biggest of the personnel changes was that
>Ken Tamplin left. Lanny Cordola was left as the front man. I believe the
>name change had legal reasons behind it.
Nitpick of the day: the original name was "Magdallan," and the name after
Cordolla left was "Magdalen."
Michael
Perfect peace, mountains robed in glory, coming into view.
Father speaks, Son becomes the story, essence of all true. - KX
--[Michael A. Vickers]----------------[mavi...@kings-x.com]--
Becky White
>Becky White <beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I'm looking for more info on these, if anyone can help:
>>--Specifically, what part of _Till We Have Faces_ did Chasing
>>Furies take their name from?
>
>When I talked to the singer from Chasing Furies while wearing my
>Over the Rhine _Patience_ shirt (which I'm wearing right now,
>coincidentally), she told me that they took their name from
>"Rhapsodie," an Over the Rhine song from _Patience_.
I had e-mail from Jeff Holland who reminded me of that story.
:-) He also said that there is a song on their album with the
phrase "till we have faces" I checked their webpage, but didn't
find any lyrics.
>(There's a good bit more content at overtherhine.com now than
>when I last checked, btw, including some MP3 downloads,
including
>"Rhapsodie.")
Wow - you're right. Prior to this, there hasn't really been much
there. I've been thinking about buying some Over the Rhine
albums. Anybody have suggestions on a good one to buy first?
I've heard and loved "Latter Days" and "Paul and Virginia."
>Also, you can glean a few bits of information about various
bands
>from Amazon.com, CDNow.com, UBL.com, etc. if you're willing to
>look around a bit. I see from UBL.com that Narnia has a couple
>of webpages devoted to them, for instance.
I've looked all over most of those sites - and it's usually a big
mess. I like their formats - but when there are multiple bands
with the same names, I get confused.
Michael A. Vickers
>I don't think I've seen anybody mention King's X here yet; wasn't one of
>their earlier albums called _Out of the Silent Planet_?
Yep. Their first album was titled _OOTSP_, and the name of the first track
on their second album (_Gretchen Goes to Nebraska_) was also named the same
thing. On that same second album, the 5th track is called "The Difference
(In The Garden Of St. Anne's On The Hill), which is a reference to the
like-named Garden mentioned in the 3rd installment of Lewis' space trilogy,
_That Hideous Strength_.
Bruce A. Brown
> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:30:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: C.S. Lewis references in music
>
> there. I've been thinking about buying some Over the Rhine
> albums. Anybody have suggestions on a good one to buy first?
> I've heard and loved "Latter Days" and "Paul and Virginia."
I'd simply make myself a sampler based on their free mp3's. Live with it a
week or so, then decide. Good Dog Bad Dog is universally praised, although
many folk on the NG like 'Til We Have Faces a great deal (still my personal
fave.)
the nonconformist
Jerry B. Ray, Jr. <vap...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote in message
news:8ca6pb$j...@catapult.gatech.edu...
> In article <B50D8122.5C92%fathe...@home.com>,
> Bruce A. Brown <fathe...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >> YEp, their first, long OOP. After months of searching I found it, in
> >> near-mint shape, at CD Warehouse, for $6. Woo-hoo!
>
> >I'd double-check that. It's an Atlantic budget disc, listed as in stock
at
> >both CD Now and Amazon...
>
> Yeah, I'd be really surprised if the first King's X disc was out of print,
> too. It's certainly not hard to find, and the mainstream music industry
> is a lot better at keeping stuff in print for longer than 4 months than
> the CCM industry seems to be.
My bad, guys. Part of it was erroneous assumption based on the length of
time between its release and present. Plus, given the hard time I had
finding it...
Thanks for the info...
--
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Jerry B. Ray, Jr.
Bruce A. Brown <fathe...@home.com> wrote:
>I'd simply make myself a sampler based on their free mp3's. Live with it a
>week or so, then decide. Good Dog Bad Dog is universally praised, although
>many folk on the NG like 'Til We Have Faces a great deal (still my personal
>fave.)
I think the most consistently good disc they have is _Good Dog Bad Dog_,
specifically the indie version. The recent reissued dropped two of my
favorite songs in favor of one that's just OK. _Til We Have Faces_ is
my least favorite of all their releases, with the exception of "Paul
and Virginia," which is probably my favorite OtR song.
Jeff Holland
Becky White wrote:
> >(There's a good bit more content at overtherhine.com now than
> >when I last checked, btw, including some MP3 downloads,
> including
> >"Rhapsodie.")
>
> Wow - you're right. Prior to this, there hasn't really been much
> there. I've been thinking about buying some Over the Rhine
> albums. Anybody have suggestions on a good one to buy first?
> I've heard and loved "Latter Days" and "Paul and Virginia."
I like Bruce's suggestion. Hurry on over to the overtherhine.com
site and download all of the MP3's. That gives you a good cross-section
of all of their albums. _Good Dog, Bad Dog_ is probably the easiest
album to find and reflects fairly well what the band sounds like now.
_Patience_ is my favorite album (and mucho kudos to Jerry who
found it for me.)
Jeff
NP: Fold Zandura, _Ultraforever_
--
Jeff Holland is
jholland at gttx dot org
members.tripod.com/JeffreyHolland
Mattias G. Hembruch
>news:nFeF4.50614$17.10...@news4.giganews.com...
>> >
>> >If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
>> >gaps, let me know.
>>
>>
>> Hartman's publishing company. It appears often Petra liner notes. I'm not
>> familiar with a band by that name, but it's very likely that one has
>existed
>> at some point or another.
>
>Dawn Treader Music was a division of Star Song and it was more than just
>Petra. As an example, every song on Bride's "Snakes In The Playground", a
>Star Song album, is copyrighted 1992 Dawn Treader Music/SESAC (one has
>another name on the copyright).
>
>Wasn't there also a band called Narnia? I seem to recall hearing about 2.
>And there might have been one called Aslan.
I've heard of both of those (although might have been different bands than
the ones you've heard of, IIRC at least one was a little known Ontario-based
band, but I could be wrong)..
Mattias
--
Mattias Hembruch, University of Waterloo. There's so much more
BASc, MASc Electrical and Computer Engineering, to life than words.
Parallel & Distributed Systems Group L. Dettweiler
mghe...@dictator.uwaterloo.ca http://www.pads.uwaterloo.ca/~mghembru
Noah Elliott
>
> I had e-mail from Jeff Holland who reminded me of that story.
> :-) He also said that there is a song on their album with the
> phrase "till we have faces" I checked their webpage, but didn't
> find any lyrics.
That's in the song "Wait Forever." The line "How can God see us face to
face 'til we have faces" is repeated several times.
--noah
Chris Parks
<beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <8ca6rd$j...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
> vap...@prism.gatech.edu (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.) wrote:
> >In article <020420002323127640%skr...@ONLYasapSPAMSTHEnet.nyet>,
> > >Unless Becky's removed stuff since I last checked, this is
> already listed
> >on her site, as were the various King's X and Over the Rhine
> references.
>
> Yup, JR's correct - I already have most of those. Look here to
> see what I've already got:
> http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.html
>
> Thanks to everyone who's added to my list. I didn't expect quite
> so many new references, so I'm in the process of updating the
> page to include everything mentioned here.
That's what i get for not checking out Becky's website before posting
<obMarkHeard> Call me the fool....</obMarkHeard>.
Peace,
chris parks
Don A. Smith
Well, my favorite is _Eve_, because I think that record, in addition to
having their best production values to date, best captures the creative
tension and energy that made the live performances of the original
quartet so electrifying. But there aren't any OtR records I *dis*like.
:-) _Til We Have Faces_ has a simplicity that is quite compelling, and
the haunting beauty of "Paul and Virginia" and the supple power of
"If I'm Drowning" stand the test of time very well. _Patience_ is a mixed
bag, with whispering spoken word pieces like the rustle of a light rain
on the windowpane of a bare attic room, the eerie comfort of "Jacksie"
(another C.S. Lewis reference. Is that on your list?), the exuberence
of "I Painted My Name" and the sheer playfulness of "How Does it Feel?"
_Good Dog Bad Dog_ is probably their most sophistocated writing to date,
but the album itself suffers from having been assembled in pieces as
the band disintegrated. "Latter Days" will break your heart, and there's
nothing quite like listening to "Go Down Easy" on a lazy summer evening
with a cool beverage of your choice. _Eve_, however, is a simmering
explosion on slow burn. After the deceptively poppy "Happy With Myself?"
starting the disc, the music sears you with the dissonance of "Guilty
Bystander" and the fury unleashed in "Daddy Untwisted" will take your
breath away. The playful side of the band comes back in "My Love is a
Fever", and they sashay off into the sunset on the sultry tones of "Bothered".
The Christmas album is good, if you're sick of the standard fare of
perky, soulless rehashes of the same old tunes. With the opening notes of
a lone, echoing cello and Karin's soaring vocals, these tunes really do
reflect the mood on the Darkest Night of the Year.
But you really can't go wrong with any OtR album you pick.
Gotta go,
Don (who used to do the OtR web page, so I may be biased. ;-))
galacti...@my-deja.com
has already been mentioned. C.S. Lewis is my fav. author, so I had to
get in on this discussion.
Did anyone mention the band King's X?
Their first album and first track on their second album are both named
Out Of The Silent Planet--as if that isn't obvious enough. His space
trilogy is awesome!!!
~Austin
...and the greatest of these is love.
James Stewart
>--Any info on bands named Narnia or Aslan?
Narnia (the Swedish [?] ones) will be playing Greenbelt this year. Once we get
the new Greenbelt site finished there should be some information there.
James.
--
James Stewart -- ja...@britlinks.co.uk \ "Telecom ignored us and
Britlinks -- http://www.britlinks.co.uk \ democracy has died"
The Phantom Tollbooth -- http://www.tollbooth.org \ -- Fat and Frantic
Peter Thomas Chattaway
: _Patience_ is a mixed bag, with . . . the sheer playfulness of "How Does
: it Feel?"
And two very different renditions of it, to boot -- one right after the
other! The funny thing is, it works. That's still the only OtR album in
my possession, but a friend sent me copies of `Latter Days' and `All I
Need Is Everything' and I'm very tempted to get more of the band's stuff.
Becky White
Chris Parks <skr...@ONLYasapSPAMSTHEnet.nyet> wrote:
>That's what i get for not checking out Becky's website before
posting
>
><obMarkHeard> Call me the fool....</obMarkHeard>.
That's ok Chris. We still like you anyway. :-)
I was rather overwhelmed at all the responses I got to this - but
I think I've finally gotten all of them together. There are a
few stylistic and slight editorial changes to make, but they can
wait for another day. If you want to see the final list, here it
is:
http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.html
(If you see problems, e-mail me.)
A HUGE thanks to everybody who added to the list!
Becky White
>> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:30:22 -0700
>> Subject: Re: C.S. Lewis references in music
>>
much
>> there. I've been thinking about buying some Over the Rhine
>> albums. Anybody have suggestions on a good one to buy first?
>> I've heard and loved "Latter Days" and "Paul and Virginia."
>
Live with it a
>week or so, then decide. Good Dog Bad Dog is universally
praised, although
>many folk on the NG like 'Til We Have Faces a great deal (still
my personal
>fave.)
I took your advice and have started to download whatever they've
got available. At the moment, I'm listening to "Everyman's
Daughter." It's good, but hasn't immediately impressed me as
"Latter Days" and "Paul and Virginia" did. I'll have try some
more songs before I choose what to get...
Chris Parks
<slot...@aol.combleah> wrote:
> Becky wrote:
>
> >If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
> >gaps, let me know.
>
> Jeffrey wrote:
>
> I can't access your page to see if this is already on it, but Blaster the
> Rocketman's new album, _The Monster That Ate Jesus_ ( Jackson Rubio Recordings
> ) they have about three songs dedicated to the Lewis' Space Trilogy. "Ransom
> vs. the Un-Men" is the only one that pops in my mind now, maybe someone else
> can help me out.
>
> jeffrey
> np bob dylan _blonde on blonde_
Kings X titled an album "Out of the Silent Planet." if memory serves..
Phil Keaggy got the album title "Beyond Nature" from a Lewis essay.
Keaggy included a track called "Brother Jack" as a tribute to Lewis.
Peace,
chris
Don A. Smith
In article <Pine.GSO.4.21.000404...@inch.interchange.ubc.ca>, Peter Thomas Chattaway <pet...@interchange.ubc.ca> writes:
>
> And two very different renditions of it, to boot -- one right after the
> other! The funny thing is, it works.
Oh, man, you should have seen them do this live. It was absolutely
entrancing. Sigh. Boy, do I miss those concerts. They're still
good, don't get me wrong, but the energy and talent of that original
quartet was literally explosive. I say literally because eventually
they did explode and go their separate ways. They're much more of
a "torch song" kind of act now, much less rockin'. Which is fine,
beautiful, and elegant, as far as that goes, but it doesn't have
the seething fire it did when Ric Hordinski and Brian Kelly were
still in the band. Ric is doing great stuff on his own, too.
> That's still the only OtR album in
> my possession, but a friend sent me copies of `Latter Days' and `All I
> Need Is Everything' and I'm very tempted to get more of the band's stuff.
If you need more enticement, I have a bunch of MP3s I can email you.
Just drop me an email.
Don
Don A. Smith
I couldn't get through to the web page; are Steve Hacket's albums in the
list? His 1978 album _Please Don't Touch_ has a song called "Narnia", and
his 1983 album is called _Till We Have Faces_, but doesn't seem to have
any further connection to Jack Lewis.
Don
clive_...@my-deja.com
> If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
> gaps, let me know.
sorry if this has already been mentioned (unfortunately, i don't have
time to read the 53 messages already in this thread).
a prog rock group called glasshammer (www.glasshammer.com) released
an album called "perelandra" that was based on c.s lewis' fairy
tales for adults.
i also recall someone on the progressive rock newsgroup
(rec.music.progressive) undertaking a similar endeavour a few years
ago (as there is a ton of c.s lewis references in prog music).
you may find something the prog rock archives, or you could ask
in there.
there is also an irish folk/rock group called aslan, which was also
the original name for psychotic waltz.
> Becky
clive
Bob Miller
> If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
> gaps, let me know.
There was a now-defunct record company in the '70s by the name of
Aslan Records, co-owned by one Larry James and one Dan Collins -- husband
of Jamie Owens-Collins. Produced early John Fischer and Pam Mark (Hall)
albums before they were signed to Word and Star Song. Still have the
vinyl...lion graphic logo on the label...
Bob (old whatever) Miller
r...@hpfirhm.fc.hp.com
Becky White
clive_...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>
>> If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of
the
>> gaps, let me know.
>
don't have
>time to read the 53 messages already in this thread).
You could always look at the site :-)
http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.html
>i also recall someone on the progressive rock newsgroup
>(rec.music.progressive) undertaking a similar endeavour a few
years
>ago (as there is a ton of c.s lewis references in prog music).
>you may find something the prog rock archives, or you could ask
>in there.
I searched deja on rec.music.progressive and found many, many
things. They seem to discuss this almost as much
as we have.
>there is also an irish folk/rock group called aslan, which was
also
>the original name for psychotic waltz.
"Psychotic Waltz?" That strikes me as rather large change to
"Aslan."
jim_f...@my-deja.com
an album titled Joy by Surprise with a song by the same name, an
allusion to Lewis' Surprised By Joy. The album cover artwork has Bob
walking through a "doorway" from our world into another with a lion
waiting. A later album titled Wood between the Worlds, has a song
entitled That Hideous Strength, in reference to the third book in the
trilogy.
Nobody
popular for writing occultic books for children, like narnia where the moral
of the story is that worshipping the demon god is counted as worship to God.
He also believed pets go to heaven and all sorts of wierd stuff!
Lewis was intimate with the occult for his entire life, and loved it more
than anything else. his biggest torch was that worshipping any god is the
same as worshipping God, but this is totally against the most fundamental
teachings of the Bible that salvation is only through Jesus Christ and
through his crucifixion and Resurrection.
What ever you do, stay away from this guy Lewis! He believed in what is now
known as new age evolution. (check out "mere christianity" [to correct
Lewis, Christianity is not mere] ) He held that the Genesis account came
from Pagan and mythical sources ... His best friend was Tolkien and I don't
need to go into what a wierdo he was!
"I have the deepest respect for Pagan myths, still more for myths in the
Holy Scriptures"
--CS Lewis
"If you mean simply that man is physically descended from animals, I have no
objection"
--CS Lewis --The Problem of Pain
"Child, all the service thou hast done to Tash, I account as service done to
me" :Aslan
---Lewis, Narnia
Tash is the demon god, lewis' representation of Satan
I'm amazed at how much of a genius Satan is that he can produce a guy like
Lewis and lead thousands of Christians away from the Bible, because what
Lewis does is give the Bible some credit but then destroys the Christian
message by mixing it all up with buddhism and nordic myths, and bringing you
along to a conclusion opposite to the Bible.
jim_f...@my-deja.com wrote in message <8d0qu4$9qg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>I've got a few that I don't think have been posted yet. Bob Ayala had
>an album titled Joy by Surprise with a song by the same name, an
>allusion to Lewis' Surprised By Joy. The album cover artwork has Bob
>walking through a "doorway" from our world into another with a lion
>waiting. A later album titled Wood between the Worlds, has a song
>entitled That Hideous Strength, in reference to the third book in the
>trilogy.
And what was Lewis's Hideous Strength?
Michael A. Vickers
>CS Lewis has written the most blasphemous stuff i've ever read.
Select one:
a) Troll.
b) Jack Chick.
c) Both.
Iceman6577
Peter Thomas Chattaway
: I thought he was a late converter or something, like his earlier stuff
: is anti-Christian and his later stuff pro-Christian. Is that wrong?
He became a Christian circa 1930, and his writing career didn't take off
until after that, so it's safe to say he was basically pro-Christian all
along. Now, what's interesting is the change in his writing between the
1930s and 1940s, which were in some ways terribly confident in their
ability to "prove" Christianity, and the 1950s and early 1960s, when he
steered away from book-length apologetics and focused more on flights of
the imagination (_Till We Have Faces_, the Narnia stories) and humble
admissions of his own vulnerability; there's a continuity between these
two phases of his life, but there are some striking differences, too.
Compare _The Problem of Pain_ (an early book) with _A Grief Observed_ (a
later book) sometime; similar themes, but the tone is *very* different.
Not surprisingly, conservatives tend to prefer Lewis's early books, like
_Miracles_ and _Mere Christianity_, while liberals gravitate toward his
later writings. Which is the more pro-Christian, one wonders ... :)
Michelle
I thought he was a late converter or something, like his earlier stuff is
anti-Christian and his later stuff pro-Christian. Is that wrong?
Michelle
scbyd...@yahoo.com
sn...@worldweb.net
> _Miracles_ and _Mere Christianity_, while liberals gravitate toward his
> later writings. Which is the more pro-Christian, one wonders ... :)
One also wonders if you could over generalize a little more.
Becky White
no...@nowhere.net (FolkFan) wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:35:46 -0800, Becky White
><beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I've been compiling a mental list of C.S. Lewis references in
>>music for the past few years, but have finally gotten around to
>>doing something with it:
>>
>>http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.htm
>Certainly Bob Ayala would have to be included! He released at
least three
>albums heavily influenced by C.S. Lewis; in fact, the album
names are
>re-workings of Lewisian titles. I'm looking right now at his Joy
By Surprise
>LP and will find the others tonight.
I have honestly never heard of Bob Ayala, but I did find his
website at http://www.bobayala.com/ I see references there to
the _Joy By Surprise_ album, as released in 1978. What other
albums have Lewisian titles?
>Also, I have a record done by a husband and wife duo from North
Carolina in
>the early '80s. Can't recall their names just now, but I'll post
them later
>along with more Bob Ayala info.
That would be greatly appreciated.
>Great site, Becky! Lewis is my favorite author as well.
Thanks!
FolkFan
<beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>I've been compiling a mental list of C.S. Lewis references in
>music for the past few years, but have finally gotten around to
>doing something with it:
>
>http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/lewis.htm
>
>It includes the obvious, like Sixpence None the Richer's name, as
>well as a few more obscure references to bands I've only heard
>about.
>
>If anyone has other Lewis references, or can fill in some of the
>gaps, let me know.
>
>Becky
>
Certainly Bob Ayala would have to be included! He released at least three
albums heavily influenced by C.S. Lewis; in fact, the album names are
re-workings of Lewisian titles. I'm looking right now at his Joy By Surprise
LP and will find the others tonight.
Also, I have a record done by a husband and wife duo from North Carolina in
the early '80s. Can't recall their names just now, but I'll post them later
along with more Bob Ayala info.
Great site, Becky! Lewis is my favorite author as well.
FolkFan (aka Claire H.)
C.H.
<beckywhit...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>I have honestly never heard of Bob Ayala, but I did find his
>website at http://www.bobayala.com/ I see references there to
>the _Joy By Surprise_ album, as released in 1978. What other
>albums have Lewisian titles?
>
>>Also, I have a record done by a husband and wife duo from North
>Carolina in
>>the early '80s. Can't recall their names just now, but I'll post
>them later
>>along with more Bob Ayala info.
>
>That would be greatly appreciated.
>
>>Great site, Becky! Lewis is my favorite author as well.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Becky
>
>--Becky White
>becky...@hotmail.com
>Cstone '99: http://members.xoom.com/beckywhite/
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Ok, I've looked through my 200-odd Christian LPs and here's what I've come
up with:
1. Bob Ayala/Joy By Surprise (Myrrh, 1976) Has an incredible painting of
Bob, who is blind, stepping through a wardrobe door to face a waiting Aslan.
2. Bob Ayala/Wood Between the Worlds (Myrrh, 1978) Features a rough-hewn
cross on both front and back covers; one song is obviously
Lewis-inspired--it's That Hideous Strength. I have no lyric sheet for this
one, alas. (all of my LPs came from secondhand sources, with a few
exception)
3. Bob Ayala/Journey (Myrrh, 1980) I don't find any outright reference to
Lewis, except in the quality of the song-writing. The track called "Positive
Confession" does resonate with me as echoing some of Lewis' writings.
4. Michael and Kathy Mann/The Wood Between the Worlds (Briar Ridge Music,
1983) This is the couple from NC. Some of the songs are traditional and all
are in the folk style.
5. Lion Song/Personal (Homestead Records, 1979) I don't know anything about
this band other than their name, and the fact that they have a song
suggestive of Aslan called "Love of the Lion." The record was produced in
Seattle, WA.
6. David Tate/Love Will Have Its Way (Lion Records, 1981) Highly possible
that the Lion is Aslan Himself--I'll quote part of the lyrics of "The Lion",
which takes up most of the second song.
"Sometimes a melody will catch you unaware
And send you flying through a dream.
We create the world in the shape of our desires,
We create the world.
Moment by moment days melt into years
And we watch our lives racing by us,
Never dreaming, never remembering
The voice within us like a lion singing;
Lion, sing to me.
We think there is a door..."
One side of the lyric sheet is a drawing of an Aslaneque lion. The artist is
Mark Mackay.
I'll look through my tapes next! :) But I can't think of any others
offhand.
Claire
WNeagle
If your curious, Salem Hill has the album cover up that has C.S. Lewis' face on
the cover. (It is the one right above the word "Gold".) www.salemhill.com
If you want, I can send a copy of it to you for posting on your website. Just
let me know what file type you need.
Bill