> On Oct 6, 7:20 pm, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 2:33 pm, Tralfaz <w...@woofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoof.com>
>> wrote:

>>> On 04-Oct-12 17:06, topazgalaxy wrote:

>>>> On Oct 4, 5:06 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 4, 5:03 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> On Oct 4, 5:02 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> On Oct 4, 4:59 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 6:41 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 10:51 am, c dubois <curtissdub...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 9:23 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 12:06 am, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 5:46 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 3:50 am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 1:09 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2:20 am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 6:27 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "P-Dub" <pwolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:JqUXr.5457$f31.4550@newsfe12.iad...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense.  Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate.  Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it.  She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes  from the book  The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability  to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book  is twisted/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor  with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approval.  She also probably can use her  power and influence to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have  read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how  the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from   controversial  at best to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them .  I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.  Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes  I agree  .   She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.

>>>>>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.

>>>>>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>>>>>>>>> attention and  control of all his wealth..  Now that John was dead,
>>>>>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted  to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>>>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>>>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>>>>>>>>> the  "Cairo Geniza"  of lost details and documents.  People realized
>>>>>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>>>>>>>>> through Yoko.  They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc.  She became  the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>>>>>>>>> relationship.  As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>>>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>>> When John was alive ,  he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko was living   as a sapling    buried in his shadow.  The tree was
>>>>>>>>>>> cut down, and  now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>>>>>>>>> reputation   to have her own  period in the sun.  Then of course there
>>>>>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about  cancelling security shortly before
>>>>>>>>>>> John was murdered....

>>>>>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>>>>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story.  There was this made for
>>>>>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>>>>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>>>>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>>>>>>>>> culture.  It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>>>>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down.  Also there was that weird,
>>>>>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>>>>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress.  Also
>>>>>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.

>>>>>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you

>>>>>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night?  One of the best
>>>>>>>> debates I have ever seen.  It became very clear what a distinct choice
>>>>>>>> we will have in November

>>>>>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC  were very upset about Obama's
>>>>>>> performance however I think they  were too hard on their
>>>>>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
>>>>>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
>>>>>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.

>>>>>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.

>>>>> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
>>>>> trying to   keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter;  he (Jim Lehrer)
>>>>> just could not  get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
>>>>> especially Obama.

>>>> Well no matter how we look at it,  November should be interesting!

>>> Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
>>> are talking about the Beatles.

>>> You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
>>> to post on topic.

>>> So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
>>> each other about the Beatles.

>> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.

> Thanks.
> And besides, talking about Yoko is  on topic  IMO