McCartney "Unplugged"
lu...@vax1.cc.lehigh.edu
I just got my copy of McCartneys "Unplugged" CD today. From what I
hear, there was a limited amount of these disks made. Does anybody know
exactly how many were made? Tonite I will listen to it, see what the
quality is like and post a summary later.
dave
Jeff Kerr
I too went on a lunchtime raid to get the new cd as well as a
copy of it on vinyl for a friend who collects unopened stuff.
I was lucky I went yesterday because 2 hrs after opening they
only had one cd left and a couple of vinyls.
I really like this cd. But I am disappointed to hear that a couple
of tracks were missing. I know it was posted earlier, could
someone fill me in on the missing titles? I can see it now, there'll
be a bootleg called 'PTV Unmugged - the unofficial but complete
bootleg'
A couple of other questions:
The vinyl release that I got has the wording on the back in
Spanish. The number on it is 19053. Any ideas on why Spanish?
It wasn't sold as an import. Also anyone know of the counts?
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Greg Murphy
>
> A couple of other questions:
> The vinyl release that I got has the wording on the back in
> Spanish. The number on it is 19053. Any ideas on why Spanish?
> It wasn't sold as an import. Also anyone know of the counts?
McCartney said that the vinyl version would have Spanish liner notes (and
be manufactured in Spain?) similar to the Russian album which had
Russian notes. That was either in the veg McC fanclub newsletter or in the CD
booklet. The counts are on all 3 formats of the album. The cassette number
is stamped in plain view. The CD is on the back cover of the jewel case (as
I was corrected in an earlier post.) I haven't seen the LP.
greg
Martin Menke
>booklet. The counts are on all 3 formats of the album. The cassette number
>is stamped in plain view. The CD is on the back cover of the jewel case (as
>I was corrected in an earlier post.) I haven't seen the LP.
My CD doesn't have a number on it. In which countries are numbers on the cd,
and in which not?
Martin
Jim Esch - Manuals
the music...this is great stuff from MacCartney--I highly recommend it,
collector's number or no.
The opening track, Be Bop A Lula, starts it off on a high footing and in my
opinion he never comes down. Check out the excellent slide guitar from
Robbie MacIntosh and the great piano from Wix. This is a tight band all around.
You get the feeling MacCartney could do a five albumn set of just his favorite
oldies and it'd be good.
Greg Murphy
>In article <1991Jun6.0...@koko.csustan.edu> gr...@koko.csustan.edu (Greg Murphy) writes:
>>booklet. The counts are on all 3 formats of the album. The cassette number
>>is stamped in plain view. The CD is on the back cover of the jewel case (as
>
>and in which not?
They are doing it in the US, for sure. If it is the only country, then perhaps
that explains the lag between the rest of the world's release and the US
release dates.
greg
lu...@vax1.cc.lehigh.edu
others that the performance and quality is excellent!
However, like Tom mentioned, I didn't like the idea of the mixed arrange-
ment. Watching the MTV show and listening to the cd led me to believe that
this was the way it was performed. That "Be Bop A Lula" was the opener.
Worse, still thinking of the t.v. special, I started to take the headphones
off just after the closing "Singing The Blues" only to hear that "Junk"
followed. Where did "Junk" originally fit in with the set? It was great
that the extra tracks were included. I was surprised when I heard Hammish
singing "Aint No Sunshine...". I too at first thought it was Paul! Hammish
sounds good solo. Paul did fine work on most tracks. He did have a bit of
quavering on "And I Love Her" and "Blackboard" (another great fan). But
nothing disasterous. Also, Lewishohn's liner notes on each songs history
were good. He did mention something that puzzled me. He says that "Here
There and Everywhere" hasn't been performed live and hasn't been re-done
since. But what about "Broad Street"? Also its interesting how the package
looks remarkably like the Russian album. The back serial numbers go out to
6 digits, so possibly only several hundred thous. will or were made. Anybody
have an offical quote?
All in all a very good, quality recording.
dave
brian s kazmierczak
>However, like Tom mentioned, I didn't like the idea of the mixed arrange-
>ment. Watching the MTV show and listening to the cd led me to believe that
>this was the way it was performed. That "Be Bop A Lula" was the opener.
>Worse, still thinking of the t.v. special, I started to take the headphones
>off just after the closing "Singing The Blues" only to hear that "Junk"
>followed. Where did "Junk" originally fit in with the set?
Maybe they should have included the original line-up so that you could
play it in the original order like Sgt. Pepper's :) (note: I am in no
way comparing this to Sgt. Pepper's, so don't jump all over me) :)
> . Also, Lewishohn's liner notes on each songs history
>were good. He did mention something that puzzled me. He says that "Here
>There and Everywhere" hasn't been performed live and hasn't been re-done
>since. But what about "Broad Street"?
Au contraire, Pierre. The liner notes say, "never performed live by the
group, nor by its writer Paul McCartney in the 25 years since". It makes
no mention of being re-done. So Lewisohn is right.
> Also its interesting how the package
>looks remarkably like the Russian album.
I noticed this too. The picture is almost similar, the quality of the picture
, the little bar that the 'UNPLUGGED' is in... even the name is similar,
somewhat. (Un) fortunately, the rest of the CD is far from bootleg quality
(sound, booklet, CD itself...)
>All in all a very good, quality recording.
I agree. A great recording, but not one that will sell well with the type
of audience Paul had 25 years ago. Great for Paul fans, though..
A few more things:
- Paul got a slew of mentions in the new Rolling Stone.
- Rolling Stone gave UNPLUGGED 3.5 stars
- Rolling Stone mentioned a small club date that Paul played a while back.
Supposedly, Paul is going to do more. This is sort of like his idea for
the Beatles to go out and play small clubs again (in a way). This was
done to break in the new drummer.
- Paul, according to RS, still insists he and George are going to write
songs together. We have been hearing this for what? 5 years now?
- I have #105767
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Keith Ross Jaskiewicz
The recent issue of Rolling Stone says there were 500,000 copies of
"Unplugged" ....
Keith J.
Thomas Bowers
|> Watching the MTV show and listening to the cd led me to believe that
|> this was the way it was performed. That "Be Bop A Lula" was the opener.
Ah... but's thats what they *wanted* you to think. I guess Paul looked
back on "Mean Woman Blues" and didn't think the performance stood
up. Hopefully, I'll be able to disagree when I hear the full performance.
Take heart, the full videotape *IS* circulating among collectors. I doubt
if the video portion can survive the bootlegging process but the full
audio portion of the concert should be available in bootleg stores about
as quickly as the SNOVA V SSSR counterfits arrived after the Soviet
LP release. I knew that the videotape couldn't sit safely tucked away with New
Yorkers nearby. :-) The recurring comment that I kept overhearing at
the Beatlefest a few months back was "We'll get the tape, don't worry.
I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy..." If Paul didn't *want*
it booted he should have released the *whole* performance...
|> Worse, still thinking of the t.v. special, I started to take the headphones
|> off just after the closing "Singing The Blues" only to hear that "Junk"
|> followed. Where did "Junk" originally fit in with the set?
I though "Junk" was alright in it's place on the TV show (the closing
credits) but it seemed awful stupid/lazy to not restore it to it's
proper place in the set while mastering the CD. It seems obvious that
the CD was taken from the TV special master (with three crude edits for
the bonus tracks), not the original master tape. As evidence I submit
the seemless edit between "Be Bop A Lula" and "I Lost My Little Girl".
I think that edit was made specifically for the TV show.
With the exception of the opener & closer, I think the MTV special
retained the original order in which the songs were performed. On the
other hand, I think that the three bonus songs were plopped back into
the show with little regard to where they were performed in the original
set. But, like I said... have no fear that the *whole* show will
be on the unofficial boot (hopefully including all 4 takes of "We Can
Work It Out" and both takes of "Ain't No Sunshine")
|> I too at first thought it was Paul! Hammish
|> sounds good solo.
Well I knew *before* listening to it, that it wasn't Paul. It was
just that I was surprised to find myself thinking that Hammish
sounded like Paul (mainly because I never thought that during the
live tour)...
Tom
Michael Weiss
>|> I too at first thought it was Paul! Hammish
>|> sounds good solo.
>
>Well I knew *before* listening to it, that it wasn't Paul. It was
>just that I was surprised to find myself thinking that Hammish
>sounded like Paul (mainly because I never thought that during the
>live tour)...
I heard it, too (got it last night...). It seems to me that Paul has a bit
stronger accent. That was about the only way I could tell.
On another note, what serial numbers do you guys have? I've got number 2000.
The Wherehouse where I bought it has a copy with number 243 I think...and I
have two other copies that aren't opened yet (one's for my girlfriend, and
the other is for my father, so I figured it would be rude to open them and
check the numbers).
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ie7...@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx
and 250,000 for the States. Everyone of them individually numbered. As far as I
know there will be no more. BTW,I'm writing from Mexico and I wonder if someone
could send me a copy of the record since i won't be able to get it. If so,
please send me a mail to this count or through the newsgroup to have an arran
gement. On the other hand, I have a great collection of Beatles Music and i
would like to share it with you. In another time, i will give you a whole list
of my records.
ie7...@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx
(Keith Ross Jaskiewicz) writes:
>
Indeed there were only 500,000 copies of unplugged pressed. 250,000 for the UK
Colm Mulcahy
>Indeed there were only 500,000 copies of unplugged pressed. 250,000 for the UK
>and 250,000 for the States. Everyone of them individually numbered. As far as I
i find it very hard to belive that all copies are destined for these two
markets. there are other parts of the world you know ...
>know there will be no more. BTW,I'm writing from Mexico and I wonder if someone
like Mexico. and Japan, and France, and Germany, and New Zealand and Canada.
the Japanese won't miss out of this one. they were the ones who put out the
double CD of Flowers afterall !!
anyway, my capitol contacts change the subject when i ask if the 500000 figure
is correct. hhmmmm........
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saki
>In article <1991Jun12...@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx> ie7...@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx writes:
>>Indeed there were only 500,000 copies of unplugged pressed. 250,000 for the UK
>i find it very hard to belive that all copies are destined for these two
>markets. there are other parts of the world you know ...
I've already seen a Spanish version on vinyl (I think manufactured
there, not Mexico), with liner notes in Spanish. It was selling for
cheap, too, about $10.50.
Perhaps there are other language versions too (let me make this
clear---packaging is Spanish, not the vocals! Inside it's the
same English product...)
BTW, most of you have been very good about not nagging me about
"where's the Welcome notice?"....I've been revamping and updating
the notes to keep up with the latest information; I hope to
have everything back in pristine form for July 1, so if there's
something you need (or that I haven't sent yet), please be patient
till then.
I'll be off the net very briefly till mid-next week. If there are
any vital questions about Jane Asher, Lonnie Donegan, or the like,
please be assured I'll be back (as some song lyric put it) in fine
pedantic form quite soon.
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Greg Murphy
>
>I've already seen a Spanish version on vinyl (I think manufactured
>there, not Mexico), with liner notes in Spanish. It was selling for
>cheap, too, about $10.50.
>
>Perhaps there are other language versions too (let me make this
>clear---packaging is Spanish, not the vocals! Inside it's the
>same English product...)
If I remember correctly, the veg issue of "Club Sandwich" said that the vinyl
version was being manufactured in Spain. I would assume ONLY Spain from it.
greg
"If I wasn't in America, I'd punch you." :-)
Stephen Carter
> and 250,000 for the States. Everyone of them individually numbered. As far as I
> know there will be no more. BTW,I'm writing from Mexico and I wonder if someone
Well, I checked my UK copy and it is NOT numbered.
Does that make it worth real money :-)
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> From article <1991Jun12...@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx>, by ie7...@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx:
>> In article <284f35...@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU>, kjas...@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU
>>
>> Indeed there were only 500,000 copies of unplugged pressed. 250,000 for the UK
>> and 250,000 for the States. Everyone of them individually numbered. As far as I
>> know there will be no more. BTW,I'm writing from Mexico and I wonder if someone
>
> Well, I checked my UK copy and it is NOT numbered.
>
> Does that make it worth real money :-)
Actually, according to Rolling Stone, it says(paraphrasing):that *Capitol* was
releasing only 500,000 copies on Unplugged.
Now, Capitol is the record company that releases Paulie's material in the
_United States_. Parlophone/EMI releases in Britan, Odeon(sp?)/EMI in Japan,
and so on. From what I gather, this is the way things are:
In the U.S., only 500,000 copies are being made, TOTAL. (This would explain why
no one has reported a CD number higher than 250,000 [assuming that the releases
are 1/2 CD, 1/2 cassette]. I have personally seen cassette copies as low as
01965, 01968, and 01969). The U.S. copies are the _only_ ones numbered.
In other countries, there is no numbering system, so I assume that other
countries will/do press however many they want. The above would explain why the
U.S. releases were held up an extra 1-2 weeks.
I hope this helps a little, at least. I tend to think that the owner on the
250,000th U.S. copy probably has the last copy (numbered, in not made.)
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Thomas Bowers
ste...@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
|> > ie7...@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx:
|> >> kjas...@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU
|> >>
|> >> Indeed there were only 500,000 copies of unplugged pressed. 250,000 for the UK
|> >> and 250,000 for the States. Everyone of them individually numbered. As far as I
|> >> know there will be no more. BTW,I'm writing from Mexico and I wonder if someone
|> >
|> > Well, I checked my UK copy and it is NOT numbered.
|> >
|> > Does that make it worth real money :-)
|>
|> Actually, according to Rolling Stone, it says(paraphrasing):that *Capitol* was
|> releasing only 500,000 copies on Unplugged.
|>
With regard to all this "limited edition" numbering hype.
I've seen "info" that says "only 500,000 - 1/2 for the US, 1/2 for the UK"
but of course this makes no sense because it assumes that the rest of
the world doesn't exist.
Why doesn't anyone pay attention to the lesson learned with "SNOVA V SSSR"?
Initial reports claimed that it was limited release but at last glance,
copies were very easy to come by.
What I'm willing to bet Capitol (in the US) *claims* to be doing is
numbering all of their 250,000 "alottment". BUT I'm willing to
bet that they have plans to press as many unumbered copies from
"the other half" as the market will bear. If there are 3,000,000
US listeners willing to purchase "Unplugged", I bet we'll see
250,000 numbered copies and 2,750,000 un-numbered copies.
I doubt that they'll publicly admit this after creating the
hype for the numbered copies but I can't see a record label
throw available profits away.
The real question to Capitol isn't "How many copies of 'Unplugged'
are being pressed to play?" but "How many copies of did Paul's
last few albums sell??? Wouldn't it be funny if it was under
the number planned for UNPLUGGED'S "limited release" :-)
Michael Weiss
>What I'm willing to bet Capitol (in the US) *claims* to be doing is
>numbering all of their 250,000 "alottment". BUT I'm willing to
>bet that they have plans to press as many unumbered copies from
>"the other half" as the market will bear. If there are 3,000,000
>US listeners willing to purchase "Unplugged", I bet we'll see
>250,000 numbered copies and 2,750,000 un-numbered copies.
Well, then, it would seem to follow that the numbered copies will be worth
more in the future than the unnumbered copies. Isn't that what happened to
the White Album?
Richard W. Cook
>
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>
> I've already seen a Spanish version on vinyl (I think manufactured
> there, not Mexico), with liner notes in Spanish. It was selling for
> cheap, too, about $10.50.
>
> Perhaps there are other language versions too (let me make this
> clear---packaging is Spanish, not the vocals! Inside it's the
> same English product...)
According to McCartney (happy birthday, Paul) _all_ copies of Unplugged were
manufactured in Spain, with liner notes in Spanish. I guess the idea was to
make it look like a cheap bootleg. (I paid $13.95 for my vinyl copy - that's
about how much _real_ bootlegs go for! I guess the retailers around here
_really_ bought into the bootleg concept...)
In the same interview (sorry, don't remember where I saw this) Macca commented
on the fun that people would have translating the notes. Perhaps one of the
Spanish speaking members of r.m.b would be so kind as to translate for the
rest of us?
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