> > > > > > > > > > > > What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
> > > > > > > > > > > > capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
> > > > > > > > > > > We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
> > > > > > > > > > > that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
> > > > > > > > > > > released,
> > > > > > > > > > > Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
> > > > > > > > > > > what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
> > > > > > > > > > > estate to sanitize
> > > > > > > > > > > the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
> > > > > > > > > > > things she did.
> > > > > > > > > > as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
> > > > > > > > > > what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
> > > > > > > > > > Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
> > > > > > > > > > is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
> > > > > > > > > > exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
> > > > > > > > > > approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
> > > > > > > > > > legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
> > > > > > > > > > wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
> > > > > > > > > > and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
> > > > > > > > > > wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
> > > > > > > > > > "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
> > > > > > > > > > Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
> > > > > > > > > > made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
> > > > > > > > > > led to that.
> > > > > > > > > I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
> > > > > > > > > legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
> > > > > > > > Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
> > > > > > > > positive legacy.
> > > > > > > How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
> > > > > > > see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
> > > > > > > Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
> > > > > > > for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
> > > > > > > And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
> > > > > > > him? It makes no sense.
> > > > > > she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
> > > > > > attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
> > > > > > fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
> > > > > > days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
> > > > > > John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
> > > > > > the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
> > > > > > if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
> > > > > > through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
> > > > > > etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
> > > > > > relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
> > > > > > Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
> > > > > > Julian etc etc.
> > > > > > When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
> > > > > > Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
> > > > > > cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
> > > > > > reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
> > > > > > is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
> > > > > > John was murdered....
> > > > > After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
> > > > > altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
> > > > > TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
> > > > > important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
> > > > > nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
> > > > > culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
> > > > > build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
> > > > > rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
> > > > > helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
> > > > > numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
> > > > thanks and yes I agree with you
> > > Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> > > debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> > > we will have in November
> > Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
> > performance however I think they were too hard on their
> > candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
> > The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
> > NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
I wonder who my grandmother will vote for? She died in 1990.
She might have a cup of coughy.
> On Sep 3, 7:57 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 2, 7:08 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> > > On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > rec.music.beatles:
> > > > Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
> > > > computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
> > > > get to attend the Olympics?
> > > > Welcome back Danny
> > > How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
> > OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
> Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
> has something to complain about.
> > > > On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > rec.music.beatles:
> > > > > Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
> > > > > computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
> > > > > get to attend the Olympics?
> > > > > Welcome back Danny
> > > > How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
> > > OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
> > Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
> > has something to complain about.
> > > > > On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > rec.music.beatles:
> > > > > > Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
> > > > > > computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
> > > > > > get to attend the Olympics?
> > > > > > Welcome back Danny
> > > > > How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
> > > > OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
> > > Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
> > > has something to complain about.
> > Are you that somebody?
> No. Thanks for asking.
Okay, glad to clear that up. Because you are constantly complaining.
And it seems that each time you reply to me (except for this last
time) you 're deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote.
> > > > > > On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > rec.music.beatles:
> > > > > > > Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
> > > > > > > computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
> > > > > > > get to attend the Olympics?
> > > > > > > Welcome back Danny
> > > > > > How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
> > > > > OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
> > > > Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
> > > > has something to complain about.
> > > Are you that somebody?
> > No. Thanks for asking.
> Okay, glad to clear that up. Because you are constantly complaining.
> And it seems that each time you reply to me (except for this last
> time) you 're deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote.
That's a good thing, cause it annoys you. Keep on
talking.
> On Oct 4, 7:42 pm, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 4, 6:16 pm, c dubois <curtissdub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 3, 9:50 am, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 3, 7:57 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 2, 7:08 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> rec.music.beatles:
>>>>>>> Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
>>>>>>> computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
>>>>>>> get to attend the Olympics?
>>>>>>> Welcome back Danny
>>>>>> How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
>>>>> OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
>>>> Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
>>>> has something to complain about.
>>> Are you that somebody?
>> No. Thanks for asking.
> Okay, glad to clear that up. Because you are constantly complaining.
> And it seems that each time you reply to me (except for this last
> time) you 're deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote.
> On Oct 4, 8:49 pm, c dubois <curtissdub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 4, 7:42 pm, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> On Oct 4, 6:16 pm, c dubois <curtissdub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 3, 9:50 am, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 3, 7:57 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 7:08 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> rec.music.beatles:
>>>>>>>> Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
>>>>>>>> computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
>>>>>>>> get to attend the Olympics?
>>>>>>>> Welcome back Danny
>>>>>>> How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
>>>>>> OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
>>>>> Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
>>>>> has something to complain about.
>>>> Are you that somebody?
>>> No. Thanks for asking.
>> Okay, glad to clear that up. Because you are constantly complaining.
>> And it seems that each time you reply to me (except for this last
>> time) you 're deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote.
> That's a good thing, cause it annoys you. Keep on
> talking.
> > > > > > > > > > > What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
> > > > > > > > > > > capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
> > > > > > > > > > > Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
> > > > > > > > > > We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
> > > > > > > > > > that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
> > > > > > > > > > released,
> > > > > > > > > > Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
> > > > > > > > > > what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
> > > > > > > > > > estate to sanitize
> > > > > > > > > > the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
> > > > > > > > > > things she did.
> > > > > > > > > as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
> > > > > > > > > what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
> > > > > > > > > Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
> > > > > > > > > is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
> > > > > > > > > exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
> > > > > > > > > approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
> > > > > > > > > legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
> > > > > > > > > wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
> > > > > > > > > and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
> > > > > > > > > wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
> > > > > > > > > "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
> > > > > > > > > Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
> > > > > > > > > made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
> > > > > > > > > led to that.
> > > > > > > > I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
> > > > > > > > legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
> > > > > > > Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
> > > > > > > positive legacy.
> > > > > > How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
> > > > > > see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
> > > > > > Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
> > > > > > for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
> > > > > > And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
> > > > > > him? It makes no sense.
> > > > > she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
> > > > > attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
> > > > > fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
> > > > > days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
> > > > > John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
> > > > > the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
> > > > > if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
> > > > > through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
> > > > > etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
> > > > > relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
> > > > > Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
> > > > > Julian etc etc.
> > > > > When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
> > > > > Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
> > > > > cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
> > > > > reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
> > > > > is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
> > > > > John was murdered....
> > > > After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
> > > > altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
> > > > TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
> > > > important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
> > > > nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
> > > > culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
> > > > build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
> > > > rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
> > > > helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
> > > > numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
> > > thanks and yes I agree with you
> > Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> > debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> > we will have in November
> I watched what was probably the last 10 minutes of it on youtube.
> Couldn't find the beginning. Let me guess: You're voting for
> Romney.
Good guess. I am absolutely not voting for Obama that I can tell
you. Neither candidate is thrilling to me. Romney is far from perfect
but the more I think about his economic views the more they make
sense. The USA cannot keep going indefinitely with massive debt on
the books and with us repeatedly borrowing money from China. No
private entity could just keep going that way indefinitely. If China
decides to demand payment on the IOUs or the dollar is no longer the
favored market currency for the world's oil, it could be very
serious for all the markets. It is not just "the 1%" who would be
affected. From what I read, we could have very serious inflation and
the markets could collapse.
Creating Obamacare now when our country was already burdened with
owing money to China was not a great idea. In addition Obamacare is
causing small businesses to choose between hiring people, laying off
people and the new health care rules. Many businesses are and will
lay off people or not hire new workers, to have enough capital to
keep going and buy the new Obamacare.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
>>>>>> John was murdered....
>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
>>> we will have in November
>> I watched what was probably the last 10 minutes of it on youtube.
>> Couldn't find the beginning. Let me guess: You're voting for
>> Romney.
> Good guess. I am absolutely not voting for Obama that I can tell
> you. Neither candidate is thrilling to me. Romney is far from perfect
> but the more I think about his economic views the more they make
> sense. The USA cannot keep going indefinitely with massive debt on
> the books and with us repeatedly borrowing money from China. No
> private entity could just keep going that way indefinitely. If China
> decides to demand payment on the IOUs or the dollar is no longer the
> favored market currency for the world's oil, it could be very
> serious for all the markets. It is not just "the 1%" who would be
> affected. From what I read, we could have very serious inflation and
> the markets could collapse.
> Creating Obamacare now when our country was already burdened with
> owing money to China was not a great idea. In addition Obamacare is
> causing small businesses to choose between hiring people, laying off
> people and the new health care rules. Many businesses are and will
> lay off people or not hire new workers, to have enough capital to
> keep going and buy the new Obamacare.
>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>> things she did.
>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>> led to that.
>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>> positive legacy.
>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
>>>> John was murdered....
>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
>> thanks and yes I agree with you
> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> we will have in November
Nothing on topic from you, as usual.
Guess it beats the Yoko trashing though so maybe your meds are kicking in.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>>> led to that.
>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>>> positive legacy.
>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
>>>>> John was murdered....
>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
>> we will have in November
> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
> performance however I think they were too hard on their
> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
Well maybe your meds are not kicking in yet since you are replying to yourself.
On the other hand, you are the only one who would reply to your posts since most everyone else skips them or has you killfiled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
>>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
>>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
>>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
>>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
>>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
>>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
>>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
>>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
>>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
>>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
>>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
>>>>>>>> John was murdered....
>>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
>>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
>>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
>>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
>>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
>>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
>>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
>>>>> we will have in November
>>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
>>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
>>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
>>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
>>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
>>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
>> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
>> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
>> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
>> especially Obama.
> Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us are talking about the Beatles.
You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability to post on topic.
So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to each other about the Beatles.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
> >>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
> >>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
> >>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
> >>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
> >>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
> >>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
> >>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
> >>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
> >>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
> >>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
> >>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
> >>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
> >>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
> >>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
> >>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
> >>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
> >>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
> >>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
> >>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
> >>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
> >>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
> >>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
> >>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
> >>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
> >>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
> >>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
> >>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
> >>>>>>>> John was murdered....
> >>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
> >>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
> >>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
> >>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
> >>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
> >>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
> >>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
> >>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
> >>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
> >>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
> >>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
> >>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> >>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> >>>>> we will have in November
> >>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
> >>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
> >>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
> >>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
> >>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
> >>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
> >> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
> >> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
> >> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
> >> especially Obama.
> > Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
> Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
> are talking about the Beatles.
> You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
> to post on topic.
> So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
> each other about the Beatles.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
> > >>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
> > >>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
> > >>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
> > >>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
> > >>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
> > >>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
> > >>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
> > >>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
> > >>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
> > >>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
> > >>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
> > >>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
> > >>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
> > >>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
> > >>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
> > >>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
> > >>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
> > >>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
> > >>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
> > >>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
> > >>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
> > >>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
> > >>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
> > >>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
> > >>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
> > >>>>>>>> John was murdered....
> > >>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
> > >>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
> > >>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
> > >>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
> > >>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
> > >>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
> > >>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
> > >>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
> > >>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
> > >>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
> > >>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
> > >>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> > >>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> > >>>>> we will have in November
> > >>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
> > >>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
> > >>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
> > >>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
> > >>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
> > >>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
> > >> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
> > >> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
> > >> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
> > >> especially Obama.
> > > Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
> > Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
> > are talking about the Beatles.
> > You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
> > to post on topic.
> > So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
> > each other about the Beatles.
> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
Thanks.
And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
> On Oct 6, 7:20 pm, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 2:33 pm, Tralfaz <w...@woofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoofwoof.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 04-Oct-12 17:06, topazgalaxy wrote:
>>>> On Oct 4, 5:06 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 4, 5:03 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 4, 5:02 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Oct 4, 4:59 pm, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 6:41 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 10:51 am, c dubois <curtissdub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 9:23 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 12:06 am, "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 5:46 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 3:50 am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 1:09 am, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2:20 am, Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 6:27 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "P-Dub" <pwolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
>>>>>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>>>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
>>>>>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>>>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>>>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>>>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
>>>>>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>>>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>>>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>>>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
>>>>>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>>>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
>>>>>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
>>>>>>>>>>> John was murdered....
>>>>>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>>>>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
>>>>>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>>>>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>>>>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>>>>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>>>>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
>>>>>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>>>>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
>>>>>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
>>>>>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
>>>>>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
>>>>>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
>>>>>>>> we will have in November
>>>>>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
>>>>>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
>>>>>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
>>>>>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
>>>>>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
>>>>>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
>>>>> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
>>>>> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
>>>>> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
>>>>> especially Obama.
>>>> Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
>>> Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
>>> are talking about the Beatles.
>>> You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
>>> to post on topic.
>>> So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
>>> each other about the Beatles.
>> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
> Thanks.
> And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
You don't come to talk about her. You come to bury her you fucking lying hypocrite.
Then you throw in a lot of hateful arab content in your spam.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
> > > >>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
> > > >>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
> > > >>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
> > > >>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
> > > >>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
> > > >>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
> > > >>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
> > > >>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
> > > >>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
> > > >>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
> > > >>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
> > > >>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
> > > >>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
> > > >>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
> > > >>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
> > > >>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
> > > >>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
> > > >>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
> > > >>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
> > > >>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
> > > >>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
> > > >>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
> > > >>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
> > > >>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
> > > >>>>>>>> John was murdered....
> > > >>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
> > > >>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
> > > >>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
> > > >>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
> > > >>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
> > > >>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
> > > >>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
> > > >>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
> > > >>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
> > > >>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
> > > >>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
> > > >>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> > > >>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> > > >>>>> we will have in November
> > > >>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
> > > >>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
> > > >>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
> > > >>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
> > > >>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
> > > >>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
> > > >> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
> > > >> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
> > > >> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
> > > >> especially Obama.
> > > > Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
> > > Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
> > > are talking about the Beatles.
> > > You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
> > > to post on topic.
> > > So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
> > > each other about the Beatles.
> > I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
> Thanks.
> And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
He never talks about the Beatles. He did at one time and
said he like Cream.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
> > > > >>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
> > > > >>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
> > > > >>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
> > > > >>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
> > > > >>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
> > > > >>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
> > > > >>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
> > > > >>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
> > > > >>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
> > > > >>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
> > > > >>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
> > > > >>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
> > > > >>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
> > > > >>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
> > > > >>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
> > > > >>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
> > > > >>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
> > > > >>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
> > > > >>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
> > > > >>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
> > > > >>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
> > > > >>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
> > > > >>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
> > > > >>>>>>>> John was murdered....
> > > > >>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
> > > > >>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
> > > > >>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
> > > > >>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
> > > > >>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
> > > > >>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
> > > > >>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
> > > > >>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
> > > > >>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
> > > > >>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
> > > > >>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
> > > > >>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> > > > >>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> > > > >>>>> we will have in November
> > > > >>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
> > > > >>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
> > > > >>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
> > > > >>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
> > > > >>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
> > > > >>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
> > > > >> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
> > > > >> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
> > > > >> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
> > > > >> especially Obama.
> > > > > Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
> > > > Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
> > > > are talking about the Beatles.
> > > > You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
> > > > to post on topic.
> > > > So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
> > > > each other about the Beatles.
> > > I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
> > Thanks.
> > And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
> He never talks about the Beatles. He did at one time and
> said he like Cream.
well Mr Snot and some others are not happy unless they are
attacking people here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John was murdered....
>>>>>>>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>>>>>>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
>>>>>>>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>>>>>>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>>>>>>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
>>>>>>>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>>>>>>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
>>>>>>>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
>>>>>>>>>> we will have in November
>>>>>>>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
>>>>>>>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
>>>>>>>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
>>>>>>>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
>>>>>>>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
>>>>>>>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
>>>>>>> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
>>>>>>> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
>>>>>>> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
>>>>>>> especially Obama.
>>>>>> Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
>>>>> Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
>>>>> are talking about the Beatles.
>>>>> You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
>>>>> to post on topic.
>>>>> So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
>>>>> each other about the Beatles.
>>>> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
>>> Thanks.
>>> And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
>> He never talks about the Beatles. He did at one time and
>> said he like Cream.
> well Mr Snot and some others are not happy unless they are
> attacking people here.
Well topax and Fatts are not happy unless they are attacking Yoko Ono and Arabs in every thread. If Yoko and the Arabs are not part of a thread, the kike sistas change the thread so they can attack these targets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon’s memory (which she
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John was murdered....
> >>>>>>>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
> >>>>>>>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
> >>>>>>>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
> >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
> >>>>>>>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
> >>>>>>>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
> >>>>>>>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
> >>>>>>>>>> we will have in November
> >>>>>>>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
> >>>>>>>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
> >>>>>>>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
> >>>>>>>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
> >>>>>>>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
> >>>>>>>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
> >>>>>>> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
> >>>>>>> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
> >>>>>>> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
> >>>>>>> especially Obama.
> >>>>>> Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
> >>>>> Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
> >>>>> are talking about the Beatles.
> >>>>> You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
> >>>>> to post on topic.
> >>>>> So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
> >>>>> each other about the Beatles.
> >>>> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
> >> He never talks about the Beatles. He did at one time and
> >> said he like Cream.
> > well Mr Snot and some others are not happy unless they are
> > attacking people here.
> Well topax and Fatts are not happy unless they are attacking Yoko Ono
> and Arabs in every thread. If Yoko and the Arabs are not part of a
> thread, the kike sistas change the thread so they can attack these targets.
It's not even important. If you would post about something you
like, you would get responses. Or find something to do that
you enjoy and you would be much happier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It�s impossible to even simply enjoy Lennon�s memory (which she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steadfastly curates.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What nonsense. Hey, I don't like her singing either, but I'm perfectly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of enjoying Lennon's memory despite that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how you let a person you claim not to like rule your life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would all like to enjoy Lennon's memory, but part of the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Yoko controls the estate. Hence, often when a book or movie is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has her hand in it. She uses her power to control and influence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is released about John; Yoko uses her power over the Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estate to sanitize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth or to give it a certain flavor that whitewashes some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things she did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the saying goes from the book The Expected One, "history is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what actually happened; history is what gets written down."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko has the ability to make sure whatever history (of John with her)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is expressed in a Broadway show, a movie, a book is twisted/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exaggerated in her favor with any project that requires her stamp of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approval. She also probably can use her power and influence to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legally alter certain websites as well like wikipedia. I have read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia from time to time , putting in Yoko Ono in the search box,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is fascinating to say the least how the article on Yoko in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia has evolved over the years from controversial at best to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "walks on water, amazing goddess and artist".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikpedia also had a statement there that no further changes can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made to the article...very unusual for them . I wonder if a lawsuit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> led to that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. Yoko is very protective of her legacy, and she uses John's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legacy and her power over the estate to make sure she gets good press.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree . She lost John and gained fame and a much more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive legacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did she gain fame after John's death? I would have gone to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see him, (if it had worked out) and been "forced" to see her too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since she's now alone, I wouldn't go see her. I think I speak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for many people on this subject. So how did she gain fame?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how does she have a much more positive legacy without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him? It makes no sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she gained fame as the widow of John Lennon and she gained pity and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention and control of all his wealth.. Now that John was dead,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fans and others who wanted to know the juicy details of John's last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days, or other details of his personal life could no longer interview
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John or wait for new material, because he was dead, so Yoko became
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "Cairo Geniza" of lost details and documents. People realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they wanted more material on John they would often have to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through Yoko. They would have to go through her for movies, articles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc etc. She became the "Fountain of Truth" on the John and Yoko
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship. As a result, history could be re-interpreted through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko-- history of how he felt on the Beatles, his family in Britain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian etc etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When John was alive , he was like a tall magnificent Oak tree and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yoko was living as a sapling buried in his shadow. The tree was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut down, and now the sapling could use his money and his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reputation to have her own period in the sun. Then of course there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that little, minor point about cancelling security shortly before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John was murdered....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After John died, Yoko and her representatives began to put out an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> altered version of the John and Yoko story. There was this made for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TV movie about the two of them which portrayed Yoko as the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important and talented and artustic member if the duo, and said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing about John Lennon's or the Beatles' importance to popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture. It was as if the people behind the project were trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build Yoko up and tear Lennon down. Also there was that weird,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rambling article in Rolling Stone magazine about how John was this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpless child and Yoko wad this amazing artist and sorceress. Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numerous interviews from Yoko and her promiters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks and yes I agree with you
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone watch the Presidential debates last night? One of the best
>>>>>>>>>>>> debates I have ever seen. It became very clear what a distinct choice
>>>>>>>>>>>> we will have in November
>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the commentators at MSNBC were very upset about Obama's
>>>>>>>>>>> performance however I think they were too hard on their
>>>>>>>>>>> candidate....well so much for objective news shows!
>>>>>>>>>>> The next debate later this month I believe is the town hall format in
>>>>>>>>>>> NY. I also am eager to see the VP candidate debates.
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder who Yoko will vote for....she is part of the 1% so they say.
>>>>>>>>> I thought Mitt Romney was very effective while the moderator was
>>>>>>>>> trying to keep the candidate's 'speeches' shorter; he (Jim Lehrer)
>>>>>>>>> just could not get the 2 candidates to stay within the time limits,
>>>>>>>>> especially Obama.
>>>>>>>> Well no matter how we look at it, November should be interesting!
>>>>>>> Who's "we"? You are the only one having the conversation. The rest of us
>>>>>>> are talking about the Beatles.
>>>>>>> You have been marginalised because of your hatred for Yoko and inability
>>>>>>> to post on topic.
>>>>>>> So you keep talking to yourself like a fruitcake and we will talk to
>>>>>>> each other about the Beatles.
>>>>>> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
>>>> He never talks about the Beatles. He did at one time and
>>>> said he like Cream.
>>> well Mr Snot and some others are not happy unless they are
>>> attacking people here.
>> Well topax and Fatts are not happy unless they are attacking Yoko Ono
>> and Arabs in every thread. If Yoko and the Arabs are not part of a
>> thread, the kike sistas change the thread so they can attack these targets.
> It's not even important. If you would post about something you
> like, you would get responses. Or find something to do that
> you enjoy and you would be much happier.
Who doesn't enjoy bashing arabs and japs like the jews?
> On 08-Oct-12 08:20, Mister Snot wrote:> On 08-Oct-12 07:56,
> topazgalaxy wrote:
>>>>>> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
>>>> He never talks about the Beatles. He did at one time and
>>>> said he like Cream.
>>> well Mr Snot and some others are not happy unless they are
>>> attacking people here.
>> Well topax and Fatts are not happy unless they are attacking Yoko Ono
>> and Arabs in every thread. If Yoko and the Arabs are not part of a
>> thread, the kike sistas change the thread so they can attack these
>> targets.
> Quite agree. In fact you forgot the biggest racist of all:P-Dub.
> That motherfucker is the most virulent, vile, mofo racist on RMB and a
> disgrace to the memory of our limosine liberal friend, John Lenin.
> I loved Lenin on the cover of Two Virgins because I could just stare
> at his uncut cock and wish I was Yoko's hairy vagina knowing that
> after that photo shoot, it would be filled with Lenin's warm English
> cream. Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
> "Ɫ℮gramp₴008"
Hey imposter, you're getting desperate now. I noticed that
you wrote a Mr Snot post, then you replied to that post
by writing this post I'm replying to, which is a reply forging
MY grampz name. Sicko. So now you create dialog to reply
to, as if you want us to believe that there are two imposters.
No, there is just YOU. Geez. I'm starting to feel sorry for your
lonely ass life. Naw. I'm over it.
Ɫ℮gramp₴008
> On 10/8/12 9:28 AM, grampz008 wrote:
>> On 08-Oct-12 08:20, Mister Snot wrote:> On 08-Oct-12 07:56,
>> topazgalaxy wrote:
>>>>>>> I've never seen you talk about the Beatles.
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> And besides, talking about Yoko is on topic IMO
>>>>> He never talks about the Beatles. He did at one time and
>>>>> said he like Cream.
>>>> well Mr Snot and some others are not happy unless they are
>>>> attacking people here.
>>> Well topax and Fatts are not happy unless they are attacking Yoko Ono
>>> and Arabs in every thread. If Yoko and the Arabs are not part of a
>>> thread, the kike sistas change the thread so they can attack these
>>> targets.
>> Quite agree. In fact you forgot the biggest racist of all:P-Dub.
>> That motherfucker is the most virulent, vile, mofo racist on RMB and a
>> disgrace to the memory of our limosine liberal friend, John Lenin.
>> I loved Lenin on the cover of Two Virgins because I could just stare
>> at his uncut cock and wish I was Yoko's hairy vagina knowing that
>> after that photo shoot, it would be filled with Lenin's warm English
>> cream. Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
>> "Ɫ℮gramp₴008"
> Hey imposter, you're getting desperate now. I noticed that
> you wrote a Mr Snot post, then you replied to that post
> by writing this post I'm replying to, which is a reply forging
> MY grampz name. Sicko. So now you create dialog to reply
> to, as if you want us to believe that there are two imposters.
> No, there is just YOU. Geez. I'm starting to feel sorry for your
> lonely ass life. Naw. I'm over it.
> Ɫ℮gramp₴008
Hey P-Douche, we all know it's you. You are still a racist POS despite whatever name you use.
Ɫ℮gramp₴008
> > > > > > > On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > rec.music.beatles:
> > > > > > > > Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
> > > > > > > > computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
> > > > > > > > get to attend the Olympics?
> > > > > > > > Welcome back Danny
> > > > > > > How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
> > > > > > OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
> > > > > Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
> > > > > has something to complain about.
> > > > Are you that somebody?
> > > No. Thanks for asking.
> > Okay, glad to clear that up. Because you are constantly complaining.
> > And it seems that each time you reply to me (except for this last
> > time) you 're deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote.
> That's a good thing, cause it annoys you. Keep on
> talking.
It is rather funny that some people claim I hate Arabs while I have
voiced my support for people like Wafa Sultan and Noni Darwish both
Arabs.
Are you going to see the VP debates later in the week? Should be
good.
> > > > > > > > On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > rec.music.beatles:
> > > > > > > > > Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
> > > > > > > > > computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
> > > > > > > > > get to attend the Olympics?
> > > > > > > > > Welcome back Danny
> > > > > > > > How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
> > > > > > > OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
> > > > > > Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
> > > > > > has something to complain about.
> > > > > Are you that somebody?
> > > > No. Thanks for asking.
> > > Okay, glad to clear that up. Because you are constantly complaining.
> > > And it seems that each time you reply to me (except for this last
> > > time) you 're deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote.
> > That's a good thing, cause it annoys you. Keep on
> > talking.
> It is rather funny that some people claim I hate Arabs while I have
> voiced my support for people like Wafa Sultan and Noni Darwish both
> Arabs.
> Are you going to see the VP debates later in the week? Should be
> good.
Oh yes, we should all remember today is a special but sad birthday.
> > > > > > > > > On 02 Sep 2012, topazgalaxy <topazgal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > rec.music.beatles:
> > > > > > > > > > Of course we are happy you are back! I just do not go to my
> > > > > > > > > > computer as often as I used to. Hope all is going well; did you
> > > > > > > > > > get to attend the Olympics?
> > > > > > > > > > Welcome back Danny
> > > > > > > > > How many times do I have to point out that that is not Danny?
> > > > > > > > OK, I just wish the real Danny would post more often.
> > > > > > > Danny is wise not to post here. Somebody always
> > > > > > > has something to complain about.
> > > > > > Are you that somebody?
> > > > > No. Thanks for asking.
> > > > Okay, glad to clear that up. Because you are constantly complaining.
> > > > And it seems that each time you reply to me (except for this last
> > > > time) you 're deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote.
> > > That's a good thing, cause it annoys you. Keep on
> > > talking.
> > It is rather funny that some people claim I hate Arabs while I have
> > voiced my support for people like Wafa Sultan and Noni Darwish both
> > Arabs.
> > Are you going to see the VP debates later in the week? Should be
> > good.
> Oh yes, we should all remember today is a special but sad birthday.
