Begging your indulgence
The Arranger
his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
check it out.
He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
His shirt, at least, is on topic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
The Arranger
Jeff
Your son is very good. Thanks for sharing.
Jeff
saki
Nice! The haircut is very apropos as well. Both my boys had Beatle
haircuts till they were old enough to change them. One has, the other
hasn't.
Impressive after one year of study.
----
sa...@ucla.edu
Jeff
I watched it 2 more times. I don't understand how he
memorizes those notes so well.
Jeff
The Arranger
I had the same haircut from grade 7 through senior year in college.
The haircut was his choice, and when he needed glasses, he insisted in
round metal frames. Unfortunately, it summoned up to all his
classmates another British phenomenon...Harry Potter!
Thanks for watching!
The Arranger
The Arranger
The nice thing about being 11 is that you're mental file cabinets
still have room, and you have a lot of spare time. Thanks for
watching, Jeff.
The Arranger
Mack A. Damia
That's excellent after only one year. He got talent. Bet he's good
in maths.
<*Lawrence Welk mode*>
"A ferry nice chob".
"Take it away, boyce."
"A wan anna two annna tree........."
--
mad (not just a name but a way of life)
AllaBest
> his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> check it out.
>
> He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>
> His shirt, at least, is on topic.
Most excellent! Keep up the good work! Terrific guitar work!
Don't forget this trick that allows the video to be view on the BIG
SCREEN!
Fattuchus
Applause. Nice kid.
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
> his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> check it out.
>
> He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
Is that who I think it is??
> His shirt, at least, is on topic.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
Wow, that's really good! I'm especially impressed that his pitch is
spot on on the bends - that takes some physical strength and precision
and awareness.
When my college band used to play "Hotel California", we used to trade
off the parts every time. I always liked playing the Don Felder part
best of the two - it was so melodic and complimented the changes so
well.
I'm always glad to see a young person playing guitar, since I love it
so much and I'm always afraid it's going out of fashion. I've been
hoping my 10-year-old nephew will catch the bug, and whenever I see him
(too rarely to be a good ongoing influence) he gets genuinely excited
by what I show him, but I don't think his parents are very into it and
I think he gets distracted by his (and their) many other interests.
The Arranger
> On 19 Nov 2009, The Arranger <recur...@gmail.com> wrote in
> rec.music.beatles:
>
> > My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
> > his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> > you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> > check it out.
>
> > He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> > featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>
> Is that who I think it is??
Yes, indeed!
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
>
> Wow, that's really good! I'm especially impressed that his pitch is
> spot on on the bends - that takes some physical strength and precision
> and awareness.
>
> When my college band used to play "Hotel California", we used to trade
> off the parts every time. I always liked playing the Don Felder part
> best of the two - it was so melodic and complimented the changes so
> well.
>
> I'm always glad to see a young person playing guitar, since I love it
> so much and I'm always afraid it's going out of fashion. I've been
> hoping my 10-year-old nephew will catch the bug, and whenever I see him
> (too rarely to be a good ongoing influence) he gets genuinely excited
> by what I show him, but I don't think his parents are very into it and
> I think he gets distracted by his (and their) many other interests.
The electric was his only Christmas gift of any substance last year,
due to the expense, but he knew that going in. It was his "Red Ryder
BB gun" Christmas. We bought him a relatively inexpensive small-sized
acoustic for his birthday in March of '08. But lots of his friends
have guitars and rarely play them. You never know what a kid will
latch onto. My son's experience has me urging parents to consider
buying their kid a musical instrument instead of Rock Band or Guitar
Hero.
The Arranger
voxverus
His shirt, his hair *and* his guitar is on topic.
Bernie Woodham
The Arranger
That's the one he has been working on as of late. He heard that one on
the radio in my wife's car and liked it. He likes a lot of old stuff
that he's been exposed to...he's big into Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly,
and gets about as far forward as Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull. The
Beatles are still his favorites, and he knows about 40 to 50 Beatle
songs, some with the solos.
He also liked Boston from the first time he heard "More Than a
Feeling." I try to be supportive of all of it, and hope he'll check
out some more modern bands as well. His aversion to anything endorsed
by his 14-year-old sister is preventing this, as she is by far the
person in the house with the most modern tastes. He learned one Green
Day song.
The Arranger
Bernie Woodham
>
> His aversion to anything endorsed
> by his 14-year-old sister is preventing this, as she is by far the
> person in the house with the most modern tastes.
Funny.
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
I just threw my guitar in the garbage.
Nice job young man.
Lord Buckeye
Can't you steer him towards any good music instead of the worst song
ever written?
Jeff
That worst song would be: "In the Year 2525"
RichL
Very nice! He pretty much nailed it!
p.s. #1...That's not really a Casino, is it? I thought they all had P90
(single coil) pickups.
p.s. #2...My advice (for what it's worth) if he's going to really
advance would be to concentrate more on getting the timing down. Does
he have a teacher?
The Arranger
>
> Very nice! He pretty much nailed it!
>
> p.s. #1...That's not really a Casino, is it? I thought they all had P90
> (single coil) pickups.
No, it's a Dot...he is identified with Casino because Lennon played
it.
> p.s. #2...My advice (for what it's worth) if he's going to really
> advance would be to concentrate more on getting the timing down. Does
> he have a teacher?
He does have a teacher, and he's actually made some real strides in
the area of rhythm, but he has a tendency to slow down when things are
tough and rush when they're easy. He has a metronome anmd practices to
it sometimes, but he tends to drown it out, and at other times he
seems oblivious to it.
He is definitely making progress in that area. My big beef is his
reliance on tab instead of reading, which gives you the rhythm.
As a sax player, what cured me of some of those bad habits is playing
with a live rhythm section. He hasn't found anyome his age interested,
or with the rudimentary chops required.
The Arranger
The Arranger
I don't think the song is actually bad at all...it's kind of a
"Runaway" rewrite in the opening section with an added retorgrade
chordal movement between every chord basic to "Runaway." I think what
gives it it's bad reputation is a) the lyrics and b) the general view
of the Eagles and c) how badly it's been overplayed.
He is oblivious to all of these.
That being said, it was about the first song he liked that he had to
download. Noone in the house owned it.
He likes a lot of music, and I'm trying to encourage to remain open to
all of it.
The Arranger
The Arranger
Interestingly enough, another song in the "Runaway" family
harmonically. I liekd that one as a kid, despite the insane lyrics. It
hasn't aged well, or maybe I haven't.
The Arranger
RichL
> On Nov 19, 6:57 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Very nice! He pretty much nailed it!
>>
>> p.s. #1...That's not really a Casino, is it? I thought they all had
>> P90 (single coil) pickups.
>
> No, it's a Dot...he is identified with Casino because Lennon played
> it.
>
>> p.s. #2...My advice (for what it's worth) if he's going to really
>> advance would be to concentrate more on getting the timing down. Does
>> he have a teacher?
>
> He does have a teacher, and he's actually made some real strides in
> the area of rhythm, but he has a tendency to slow down when things are
> tough and rush when they're easy. He has a metronome anmd practices to
> it sometimes, but he tends to drown it out, and at other times he
> seems oblivious to it.
Sometimes you gotta slow the metronome down for it to do any good. At
his age, he probably hasn't got the patience to do that yet.
>
> He is definitely making progress in that area. My big beef is his
> reliance on tab instead of reading, which gives you the rhythm.
Hmmm....I could read music when I started out on guitar because of my
prior experience with piano, but back in the day <ahem> you couldn't get
either sheet music or tab that was current. That's when my ear training
kicked in. Listening and trying to repeat what I heard. I swear, for
pop/rock type stuff it's the way to go, at least until you start seeing
rock bands with sheet music in front of them during performances ;-)
I agree, however, on the reading...trouble is, these days you can get
tab on the net for free for just about anything (never mind that most of
it's incorrect), such is not the case for standard notation. So you've
still got the same conundrum if you want to come up to speed quickly.
>
> As a sax player, what cured me of some of those bad habits is playing
> with a live rhythm section. He hasn't found anyome his age interested,
> or with the rudimentary chops required.
It'll come. I think for most kids who wind up playing, the light bulb
goes off no earlier than age 13 or 14. So he's really young to be at
the level he is. In time, a few of his friends will develop an interest
(or he'll HELP them develop it).
RichL
He could have done a lot worse. Can he play the intro too?
Don't quite get the "Runaway" thing, if you're referring to the Del
Shannon song.
Jeff
How would he feel about playing with some guy who plays
rhythm guitar, more than twice his age? I wanted that
chance at age 15.
Jeff
Jeff
I would love to hear him do the live version of "Sunshine of
your love"
The Arranger
I mean the basic (don't know what the actual key is for either, so
just an example here):
E min/D/C/B7 progression.
"Hotel California" has a kind of modified version, I think, where
instead of progressing to the next chord in "Runaway," you go to the V
of the chord you are playing first, (what I referred to as
retorgrade), so:
Em/B/D/A/C/G...something like that. I'm going by ear as well here, as
it wasn't on my "set list" back in the day.
The Arranger
RichL
Yes, that's correct (starts with Bm in the original but the chord
intervals are right). I guess I don't see it as all that closely
related with all the other stuff going on between the "runaway" chords.
It resolves differently too, after the chords you wrote, it goes Am B7.
Then the bridge takes off in a different direction, in "Runaway" it's E
C#m (repeated several times then ending in A B7 E A E B7) ..., whereas
in "Hotel.." it's C G B Em C G Am B7.
The Nice Mean Man
> My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
> his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> check it out.
>
> He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>
> His shirt, at least, is on topic.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
>
> The Arranger
Bullshit. It's like when parents have their children compete in a
beauty contest, or pal football or whatever. It's really all about the
narcissistic parents involved. That’s all.
TNMM
The Arranger
>
> Bullshit. It's like when parents have their children compete in a
> beauty contest, or pal football or whatever. It's really all about the
> narcissistic parents involved. That’s all.
In the highly unlikley event that you can locate the missing link and
breed with it, you will have an opportunity to set an example for all
of us.
The Arranger
who?
I don't think you are a narcissistic parent, and I think he was
exaggerating to make his point. Perhaps, he felt like his
father made him wear things...he didn't care to, while
he was growing up..and he feels like possibly you
are forcing your son...to wear that Beatles T-shirt?
Who knows what's on his mind? Only he does.
I just remember when I was about 13, and my father
tried to get me to wear (what do you call them?)
those black wing tipped shoes to school. I told
my father no way...cause kids would think I was
a nerd for sure. Anyhow, it's about him, not
you.
Bernie Woodham
> beauty contest, or pal football or whatever. It's really all about the
> narcissistic parents involved. That’s all.
>
> TNMM
Awwww... sounds like mummy and dadda didn't love you.
That's so sad.
Can't say I blame them, though.
John Gutglueck
More a "We Used To Know" ripoff than a "Runaway" rewrite, I'd say,
built on a "down-a-perfect-fourth, up-a-minor-third" harmonic
sequence.
http://popup.lala.com/popup/576742261677020473
--
John
who?
> On Nov 19, 5:32 am, The Arranger <recur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
> > his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> > you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> > check it out.
>
> > He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> > featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>
> > His shirt, at least, is on topic.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
>
> > TheArranger
>
> esp. when he goes up the neck...you can really see the beginnings of
> what he'll be like fully grown.
I think he's very good now. Me, I'm totally a chord theory person.
When it comes time to play lead, I can't play what Rich's
son is able to play now, let alone at 11 years old. Some
one mentioned some of his timing problems. I don't even
hear it. If someone asked me to jam with him at his
current age, I would say yes. Age makes no difference
to me. It might to him. :-)
Jeff
Jeff
Ooops, I realized my mistake early this morning. It
was the Arrangers son, not Rich's.
The Arranger
> Ooops, I realized my mistake early this morning. It
> was the Arrangers son, not Rich's.
Well, that's a relief. One fewer confrontation I'll have to have with
my wife. Although it would explain the guitar gene!
The Arranger
RichL
LOL!
Hey, since we're plugging our kids this month, I gotta put one in for my
kid's recording studio (actually he'll be 30 in a couple of months):
Check out the "Studios" page. Give your son something to shoot for if
he decides to make music a career. At least it's an option. He
bypassed me gear-wise long ago.
The "Discography" page is growing by the day!
(p.s..the guy playing piano in the "Photos" page isn't my son, I have no
idea who that is...)
The Arranger
> The Arranger <recur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 10:38 am, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Ooops, I realized my mistake early this morning. It
> >> was the Arrangers son, not Rich's.
>
> > Well, that's a relief. One fewer confrontation I'll have to have with
> > my wife. Although it would explain the guitar gene!
>
> > The Arranger
>
> LOL!
> Hey, since we're plugging our kids this month, I gotta put one in for my
> kid's recording studio (actually he'll be 30 in a couple of months):
>
> www.paulleavitt.net
>
> Check out the "Studios" page. Give your son something to shoot for if
> he decides to make music a career. At least it's an option. He
> bypassed me gear-wise long ago.
>
> The "Discography" page is growing by the day!
Cool!
The Arranger
Jeff
LOL
I have no idea how I got this confusion started.
Jeff
paramucho
<recu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
>his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
>you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
>check it out.
>
>He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
>featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
Which regular?
The main thing is that he seems to understand what he's playing. The
rest will come of itself. But keep this video locked away--you'll be
able to blackmail him with it in ten years time!
Ian
The Arranger
> My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
> his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> check it out.
>
> He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>
The kid in now a freshman at Ithaca College, studying music, and had the summer of his life, performing as a guest soloist at Symphony Hall with the Boston Pops and at the Newport Jazz Festival as a member of the Massachusetts high school All-State Jazz Band. He and his teacher were also written up in Guitar Player magazine this fall.
The Beatle haircut is gone, and the focus is now on jazz, although he traveled a very different path to it than I did. He still loves the Beatles, though, and made his first appearance as a vocalist this summer with a local rock band he played with, singing "All My Loving."
Wir Munchen Liebschoen
> On Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 8:32:50 AM UTC-5, The Arranger wrote:
>> My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
>> his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
>> you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
>> check it out.
>>
>> He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
>> featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>>
>> His shirt, at least, is on topic.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
>>
>> The Arranger
>
> A belated update, for Nil, mostly, who provided some early inspiration at a concert in Marblehead...
his own mind. What would the Beatles be without the Great Nil there to
shepherd the followers like a bishop with a crozier up his arse?
> The kid in now a freshman at Ithaca College, studying music, and had the summer of his life, performing as a guest soloist at Symphony Hall with the Boston Pops and at the Newport Jazz Festival as a member of the Massachusetts high school All-State Jazz Band. He and his teacher were also written up in Guitar Player magazine this fall.
by Nil managed to stay ordinary and do ordinary things that ordinary
music students do who were not graced with the Great Nil.
> The Beatle haircut is gone, and the focus is now on jazz, although he traveled a very different path to it than I did. He still loves the Beatles, though, and made his first appearance as a vocalist this summer with a local rock band he played with, singing "All My Loving."
that was popular over 50 years ago. Except maybe if he is getting his
hair styled like the Great Nil. Let's hope so. That way he could be like
a medieval monk with their distinctive hair style to show submission to
Jesus only now submit to Nil and his crozier.
Tim
Wir Munchen Liebschoen
Tim
Nil
rec.music.beatles:
> A belated update, for Nil, mostly, who provided some early
> inspiration at a concert in Marblehead...
>
> The kid in now a freshman at Ithaca College, studying music, and
> had the summer of his life, performing as a guest soloist at
> Symphony Hall with the Boston Pops and at the Newport Jazz
> Festival as a member of the Massachusetts high school All-State
> Jazz Band. He and his teacher were also written up in Guitar
> Player magazine this fall.
>
> The Beatle haircut is gone, and the focus is now on jazz, although
> he traveled a very different path to it than I did. He still loves
> the Beatles, though, and made his first appearance as a vocalist
> this summer with a local rock band he played with, singing "All My
> Loving."
playing music. I could tell even then that he was passionate about it,
but sometimes kids move on to other things and I worry that making
music isn't regarded as having much meaning or importance these days. I
remember he was all excited about having recently learned the solo from
"Stairway to Heaven", which I thought was pretty impressive. So, Bravo!
I may have to buy a copy of Guitar Player, even though I gave up on
that magazine a long time ago after subscribing for decades (anybody
want to 200 "vintage" issues??)
RichL
news:61060c20-7eb2-4743...@googlegroups.com...
if those dreams shift a bit over time.
One of my sons got the recording bug when he was around 15 years old,
playing in a rock trio. Initially it was to document the band's progress,
but he went on to go to a recording school, and now he's an independent
recording engineer/producer. He's not getting rich, but making enough to
support his family. And continuing to pursue his dream.
thewalruswasdanny
> My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
> his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> check it out.
>
> He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>
> His shirt, at least, is on topic.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
>
> The Arranger
Danny
Norbert K
> My 11-year-old son has been hounding me and my wife to let his play
> his guitar on YouTube. He's been taking lessons for about a year. If
> you don't have a constitutional opposition to this sort of thing,
> check it out.
>
> He became very energized about playing after seeing a concert
> featuring one of the regulars here, by the way.
>
> His shirt, at least, is on topic.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMuphm5HwM
>
> The Arranger
Kids today seem to prefer video games to playing instruments -- and to reality in general. They plop their doughy, lumpish selves on the couch, donuts and Mountain Dew at their side, and stare slack-jawed and glassy-eyed into their entertainment systems.
BTW, I was in a Ralph's Supermarket in Santa Barbara in the early 1980s when I became aware of a ruckus in the front of the store. At the center of it was a very inebriated Joe Walsh.